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CSP on sale
CSP on sale
CSP on sale
CSP on sale
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sexooooooo
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damn i would buy.... but i lost my job
i got 10 light years worth of art gains so far though..
But soon when i come back to being a wagie i wonder if the gains will stay
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>>5752428
Why is their black friday sale worse than their regular sale? This sucks.
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>>5752449
how much is the win pro version at sale? $30 doesn't sound too bad
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I will now make it.
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>>5752472
nah, 2 years ago i thought that investing in an expensive tablet and buying licensed software would oblige me to work harder, but it doesn't work like that irl
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>>5752477
You only work hard if you see a reward you're happy with for the work you do, monkey brain 101. This is why kids with supportive parents have better success in life
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Is the difference between PRO and EX significant for a /beg/?
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>>5752477
Using a software that everyone else uses helps.
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>>5752488
no
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>>5752488
>PRO
for illustration
>EX
For cominc/manga and animation
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>>5752428
I'll just stick with SAI.
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I’m probably going to get the Pro plan for my ipad but why does Ex cost so much more?
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>>5752488
if you have any interest in getting into animated or comic making, yes.

didnt really need it ever but its come in handy before when doing some animation practice to go beyond 1 second or whatever Pro's limitation is.
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>>5752428
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Hmm
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>>5752469
$25
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>>5752535
You can just cancel the plan before it auto renews.
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You can tell that Celsys is desperate, DESPERATE to finally put a nail in the perpetual license coffin and go full cuck adobe subscription. Inch by inch they're gonna do it, first by reducing the sale offer (used to be 50% off), then they'll probably raise the base price. Then they'll make it so the perpetual license wont receive updates other than bug fixes, to make the yearly subscription more appealing (which will include major updates). They're gonna make the stupid AI stuff they run on their servers also exclusive on the subscription version. Then you won't be able to get a cheap yearly license at all, only month to month. And then Ill go back to exclusively pirating it or to Krita.
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>>5752529
who needs useful features when gimmicky shit looks better in their advertising?
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what does csp do that my free and legitimate version of adobe cs5 wont?
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>>5752529
>>5752561
APOLOGIZE
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>>5752525
Because it's what really separates it from others so they can charge more for the exclusivity and lack of competition in manga making tool, but in reality it's definitely not worth getting the Ex because all you get is files with "pages", manga paneling tool and more than 1 sec animation (pro has a 1 second limit for animation which is really dumb)
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>>5752535
What does it mean plans, isn't CSP still a one time buy and get updates forever kinda of program?
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>>5752559
ya
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>>5752559

I mean it's pretty much inevitable. How else are they gonna make money?
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>>5752576
Perpetual license for desktop. Subscription model for phones and tablets
>>5752559
I would gladly pay for major updates if it meant we got bug fixes and new features faster and they actually listened to feature requests from dirty gaijin. It's way superior to a monthly subscription plan atleast.
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>>5752576
They use a subscription plan for tablet and phone version

>>5752564
At this point I think it’s all the assets and brushes users make that give it an advantage
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>>5752570
Nice, cant wait for liquefy!
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does the tablet version have anything over artstudio pro?
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>>5752570
oh god when are we getting the liquify tool
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>>5752631
In 2 years
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>get csp
>every 2 seconds try to figure out how to do something I can do in my sleep in photoshop because I used it for memes for years before wanting to draw
>have to look up youtube videos of weebs explaining a 20 second video in 10 minutes, usually ends up not being like the photoshop feature anyway
>the main feature its known for, easy vector inking, is useless for me
>look at courses for digital painting on cgp
>top results are schoolism, cgma, coloso, will weston
>all use photoshop, even the younger ones currently working
>throw csp in the garbage and open pirated photoshop again
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>>5752631
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>>5752559
give me a god damn LAB color picker
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>>5752637
There's no practical difference at all for painting in CSP or PS. I use both, had 10 years of PS experience before using CSP, and had no issue switching.

There are 2 or 3 features that would be nice to have (blend if) but otherwise it's just retards like you who don't bother learning a new program.
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>16$ for a year
>30$ for forever
Who the fuck would buy a year-long license why wouldn't you just buy that shit forever?
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>>5752680
Zoomers would
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>>5752651
>There's no practical difference at all for painting in CSP or PS
csp cant handle custom brushes over 500px without shitting the bed, this makes it actually unusable as a serious painting program.
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>>5752680
they are boiling the frog, in a few years they will crank up the perpetual license option before removing it completely. The problem is the program is still shit for painting so the vast majority of professional artists cant use it, the only thing stopping them from going 100% adobe is the product isn't competitive enough.
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>>5752695
up your spacing
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>>5752428
didn't read the S in the middle and got excited for a sec fuck you OP
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>>5752702
Its not about spacing, I am at the limit of what is acceptable before it reads as separate brush stamps. The problem is the program is unoptimized dogshit for painting, anyone who paints with custom brushes and who comes from photoshop can tell immediately.

I just want them to fix the fucking performance instead of adding all these pointless features, I want to stop using photoshop.
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>>5752488
Don't waste your money on EX unless you for some reason must animate in CSP or if you're planning on making comics at a pro-mangaka level of volume and want every convenience you can get to do so. Everything you can do in EX for comics you can do in Pro too, just using ghetto hacks to do it. EX just makes it convenient. Not exactly worth the much higher price tag if it's not your profession, or if you're just a beginner.
t. used Pro for years, bought EX a year ago, primarily use the program to make comics.
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>>5752631
Liquefy in CSP on the 7th
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Can't wait to try liquefy and see csp slowdown to a crawl
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>>5752529
>>5752570
Oh no no no how will you ever cope now?
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>>5753233
My guess is that the tool will be laggy and it wont work on multiple layers (which would be amazing if it did).
Either way, the true hero here in all of this is Procreate. If Procreate didn't exist and it wasn't sucking away CSP's sweet sweet Applefag bucks we'd never be seeing features like liquefy and photoshop brush importing.
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One thing about CSP that never made sense to me is it's lack of CYMK support. Csp was originally designed for making comics and cymk is used for printing and publishing.

>>5752559
I wouldn't be surprised if CSP 2.0 will require a subscription
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Can I get list of brushes pop up like this with right mouse click tied to stylus yet?
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>>5753268
Yes, with the "Quick Access" panel.
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>>5752570
It's happening
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>>5752570
I will now stop using photoshop.
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quick question before I pull the plug
can I download brushes from the store if I have the pirate version?
and does the cloud function work? would be neat to start on my ipad and finish in PC
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>>5752428
Thanks, but I pirate my software.
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who gives a shit, krita is free and better than CSP
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>>5753363
>can I download brushes from the store if I have the pirate version?
No.
>and does the cloud function work?
Yes.
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>>5753370
getting shit stolen from your pc good luck fucktard it's all about open source
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>>5752445
just pirate it if you're too poor and buy it later, that's what i did.
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>>5753444
>open source
the poor man's software
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>>5753331
>can't put quick access to menu as right mouse click
>managing brushes is a pain
>can't change brush size in quick access window
so you can't, got it
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>>5753412
This.
I bought CSP and just use Krita now.
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>>5753449
and stealing isn't?
both piracy and FOSS represent the same ideals, a form of activism against paid software, FOSS is just purer in it's idealism than the scavenging mentality of pirates who want software without contributing anything at all.
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>>5753499
>want software without contributing anything at all
>implying you have ever contributed to any foss software

Foss only exist as passion projects not as businesses
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>>5753508
of course i contribute, both with code commits and bug reports.

>Foss only exist as passion projects not as businesses
cool statement, too bad it has absolutely no relevance here whatsoever
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>>5752428
kys, pedophile garbage
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>>5752570
I couldn't care less about cheat tools like that. I want multi core support, not that crap for people that can't draw.
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>>5753519
>cheat tools
why do you use computers? digital art is only for people that can't draw
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>>5753513
>no relevance
it does. that's the whole reason why there aren't any foss art software worth using
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>>5753518
Eat shit it's a drawing anon not real.
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>>5753533
Kill self
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>>5753363
From the store you can't download it but you can ask someone to download for you and transfer the files for you to put in the right folder so just make a thread asking for csp brushes if you need it
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>>5753535
Dude, what about Krita that is worth us- oh wait it just crashed trying to use G'MIC
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>>5753535
bro what are you talking about, no one's discussing the validity of foss software, and besides it's a completely subjective opinion. i use both krita and blender on a daily basis, choosing them over proprietary software regardless of their status as foss. they're just solidly-built pieces of software with nice features implemented well.
just shut up and stop posting, you have no clue what you're talking about.
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>paying for software
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>>5753578
Cope poorfag, $50 is literally nothing
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>>5753363
>>5753441
>>5753565
What? I've always downloaded brushes from the store with a pirated version, unless they fixed that in updates it works fine for me.
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>>5753602
>$50
Not even that.
I paid $25 for PRO while on sale.

And I went ahead and waited for the next sale and paid $85 for EX.

And unless you really need to animate in it or you are an actual mangaka or eromangaka you can completely live without EX.
Hell, I've even seen some eromangaka who work on PRO.
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>>5753615
EX is fucking scam, managing comic pages is useless because it loads all pages at once which takes forever and there are better programs for animating
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>>5753609
I'm trying to but it requires you to log into your account via the csp program itself just to download them
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>>5753609
How tf are you in the store without an account?
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>>5753655
>>5753680
Not him but just make an account. You can download the brushes and use them in your pirated copy just fine.
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>>5753651
Basically. Multi page documents are just an index file that generates and loads multiple .csp files.
If anything it just makes it easier to export.
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>>5753533
I use digital cause it's faster and cheaper than traditional, while it still allows me to produce content that is marketable.
Stop seething, beglet.
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>>5753556
I have nothing against the drawing. I said you should kill yourself for being a pedophile (in rality you should seek professional help tho). GTFO now.
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>>5753817
No kid has that ass, go back to tumblr femoid
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>>5753817
dilate
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>>5753817
you will never be a woman
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>>5753842
>No kid has that ass
apply yourself on 7-11 year old girls anatomy studies
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>>5752570
just pour water on monitor retard
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>>5753447
>just pirate it if you're too poor and buy it later, that's what i did.

who said im not using csp rn
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>>5753813
>I use liquify cause it's faster and cheaper than drawing again, while it still allows me to produce content that is marketable.
>Stop seething, beglet.
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>>5753869
How?
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>>5754810
plenty relevant reference material on instagram
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>>5754039
>it's faster to draw something bad and then fix it with liquify instead of drawing it correctly in the first place.
Okay champion.

My fucking sides.
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>>5752559
I mean honestly in this fucked up world I wouldn't give a fuck about a subscription method as long as Clip Studio doesn't make my computer into a nuclear reactor like Photoshop does. If they import photoshop features without the bloat that the main program is, all the better I guess.
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>>5754819
Don't you need your real name for that website?
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>>5755219
>Don't you need your real name for that website?
>Actually putting his real name on the internet
You need to be +18 to be here, anon
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Apologies if this is a dumb question, but why does the PC version offer a one-time purchase option but the iOS one doesn't?
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>>5755265
mobile development is pretty annoying so it costs more
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>>5755270
Alright, fair enough. Thanks!
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>>5752529
Kill that dog
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>>5755265
They realized they fucked up when they saw Adobe making tons of money with their subscription but it was too late to change that for PC.
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>>5754022
water only fills, you're suppose to microwave it to liquefy retard
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How is CSP on an Ipad Pro compared to Procreate?
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>>5755387
bad
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>>5752428
that foreshortening is shit
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>>5752428
I'm happy for you
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>>5755270
Other way around. Mobile dev is pretty comfy. Apple and google provide amazing SDKs that, for all their faults and constant changes, just werk compared to desktop app development. Windows is a total mess, they can't even support a single UI framework whereas Google bends over backwards to wrap everything up in compatibility libraries so you only ever need to touch one framework to address most mobile devices. And Apple is so good with making sure as many devices as possible get the latest iOS versions so you really don't have to worry about backwards compatibility, reasonably speaking.
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>>5755512
What's wrong with it, begtard?
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>>5755538
>>5755265
The difference is that Microsoft allows you to install any software you want, while Apple and Google demand 1/3rd of every sale, and developers must keep everything updated according to their arbitrary policy changes and even pay an annual fee to be allowed at their jewish stores
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>>5755387
I have procreate and use a trial of CSP. Procreate feels more like a painting app while CSP is like a desktop program smushed into a tablet screen. CSP has a lot of good brushes (you can find packs in the archive instead of buying them), and apparently it’s really good at filling with the bucket tool. It also has preset sizes specifically for print manga/doujinshi and webtoon style comics. I definitely get CSP being used for making comics and having a lot of shortcuts that make it easier.
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>>5755546
>he can't see it
definitely NGMI ever.
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>>5755932
>no argument
Yeah, stay shit, permabegtard.
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Lol I am not spending one more dime on art.
I have invested 400 bucks on a tablet for this black friday and holiday season and I am not spending ONE MORE FUCKING DIME ok? (I live on shithole country and that's a fortune in these times)
I am going to pirate these programs, and I will not pay for them until I get more than 0 followers and get my first commissions (which would be never knowing that I am still drawing like a beglet).
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>>5753447
>pirate it
How?
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>>5752445
Nah you will lose your gains but at least you will have money and feel less unproductive with your life.
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>>5753257
there's a cmyk support though

>>5753363
I managed to download a few back when I was using an old pirated version. Although most of them won't work because of the version compatibility
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>>5756218
>CMYK support
really? i tried working in CMYK a while back and it said something about converting to RGB or can't save in CMYK or something i don't remember
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>>5756219
https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/4017#5b61c1a4
This is how I remember converting it.
did this to convert the zine piece I did to cmyk
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>>5753257
i always read that you shouldn't use anything but sRGB, unless you're the one doing the whole printing process with professional equipment, and you know what are you doing
never a client has asked me for illustrations on cmyk, so i guess it must be true
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>>5756252
thank you kind anon!
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>>5753535
>>5753568
I use krita and I like how it works. doesn't crash on me ever.





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