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What work does /ic/ do?
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>>6014523
Unemployed. All of us. Next question
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>>6014523
neet
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I am an archaeologist
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>>6014556
Dig up this ratio
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>>6014523
Plumber Apprentice with a Oncology background.
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>>6014523
I am a philosopher
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>>6014523
I'm homeless
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post doctoral medical researcher
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>>6014523
I’m an artist trying to break into art dealing and I did crypto for a little bit but I’m bad at it so that’s not going to be a thing for me, I’m better at art dealing. So far I’ve made about $375 from three paintings I bought and resold but most of my income still comes from selling my own art. On average I make $4000-$4500 a month selling oil paintings
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>>6014556
then i have some cock for you to examine!
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>>6014523
Military/Daytrading. Daytrading was sort of a hobby until it outpaced my paycheck but its easy to make money when the money printer is infinite.
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>>6014523
I'm a farmer
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>>6014523
NEET because my health is fucked at the moment and drawing is basically the only thing I can do on a semi-regular basis.
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A bartender
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>>6014523
mechanical engineer
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curbside
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>>6014523
Literally McDonald's
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>>6014936
well your father must be retarded because you raise nice cocks
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penis inspector
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Tech writer, I make instruction manuals
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>>6014935
Literally same what the fuck
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Mcdonalds until I start studying. It fucking sucks. Industrial jobs where you dig shit are nicer.
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>>6014523
Porn illustrator.
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>>6014538
OK, fine.

Why do you guys want to get into art?
Do you not enjoy the work you are doing right now?
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>>6015141
How'd you get into that industry?
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>>6014523
Professional animator
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Professional NEET
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>>6015170
Years ago I replied to a job listing on freelancer.com.
Later on I created a tumblr/twitter blog and started doing commissions. When I had enough traction I opened a Patreon.
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Swim teacher and karaoke host
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>>6015210
That's pretty cool, Anon :)

Did you have a background in art beforehand or did you start it as a hobby at first, before leading into it?
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>>6015215
I worked on commercial art before that. Advertisement and game dev industry.
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>>6014523
I'm working on getting a bachelor's degree to become a librarian rn.
I used to be a NEET high school drop out, relying on some inheritance money and being really lonely, mentally ill and bad at taking care of myself.
Then I finally went to therapy and also finished my school degree so I could study and I even became friends with other students.
I'm at my happiest now and drawing is fun again too, life is great.
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I live off of commissions.
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>>6015233
Wicked, that sounds sweet.

Did anybody here do graphic design?
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>>6014523
in-house architect for a construction company. mostly means i do drafting jobs for engineers and field supervision for various kinds of urban maintenance contracts. also auxiliary IT because all of my coworkers are techlet boomers.
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Coder
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>>6015250
That sounds awesome
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>>6014853
Wow, damn. Are you aiming for professor?
How do you find any time to draw?
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>>6015250
I'm happy for you, Anon.
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actuary
needless to say i never draw anything and am permabeg
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>>6015895
>Are you aiming for professor?
I'm gunning to retire before that somehow
>How do you find any time to draw?
wake up at 5 and either work out or draw
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>>6016075
>wake up at 5 and either work out or draw
I kneel
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>>6015250
Proud of you Anon, you got courage
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>>6015583
Does your Architecture skills factor into your drawing abilities at all?
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>>6016092
don't worry I'm shit at art since it's 3rd priority, I'm sure you're better if you draw at least 1-2 hours a day
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i can't believe we have doctors, engineers and military anons crabbing each other on /ic/ over drawing anime porn kek. i wish to see your art or at least what style you're all interested in.

i'm a professional concept/character artist because i sucked at math and sciences.
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I work as a software lead in a decent sized company

I hate every single moment of it, every time I tell some friend or a family member that I want to quit and get into art I get told that I should get all the money I can while it lasts

I hate it so much bros, I can't take it
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>>6016119
Save up a year of expenses and then go all in. I'm sure they wont care if you eventually make a living off it
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military
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>>6016119
you must be be getting stockies in return for working there right?
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Military. I really hate it but my job is pretty easy in itself
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>>6015162
I'm making as much money in art as I am in my day job.
My day job requires a degree
But I've been drawing for 10 years now
So ehh experience trumps degree I guess.
I'm at the crossroads as to whether going all in into art would be viable or not.
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>>6014523

I'm an artist for Dark Horse
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>>6015808
It really is, I wish everyone could be this happy.
>>6016098
>>6015953
Aw, thank you :)
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>>6016119
>software
I'm busy with a Degree in Software development, is it really that hard of a job to do?
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>>6016548
>I'm making as much money in art as I am in my day job.

Dude, that's fucking awesome :)
So do you do commissions or are you working on a project?
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>>6015162
I can't bother pretending to fit into society, having to talk to these automatons makes me sick
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>>6015250
Based struggler. Even if we never meet again, we are pals. Struggle on friend
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This how y’all b lookin
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>>6016119
>that I should get all the money I can while it lasts
Take what you've earned and get out of there. Of course people who aren't you are going to weigh cash over your misery every single moment of every single day.

You're in tech so you probably have a decent chunk of money saved up, go to /biz/ and see what you can learn to starting up your own business that can sustain your passion in art
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>>6017281
replace the suitcase with a canvas, the 'job' to 'schizophrenia' and it's a self portrait :D
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>>6014523
Clerk for a lawyer. Pays good, management is his family. It’s p comfy.
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Cloud Web Developer. Kill me.
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>>6017359
lol go fullstack banking say you want to expand your horizons
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>>6014523
Inheritance collecting.
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>>6015250
I'm going to therapy right now.

Can you give me some advice so that I can use to get the most out of it?
I really am at my wits end, therapy is my last resort if I want to get my life together.
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>>6015260
Depending on how much you need, that's either really good or really unfortunate.

Which is it?
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>>6017526
There is no lifehack to therapy to fix your broken mind asap and also theres no guarantee a therapist will help you either it didnt help me it just made me worse(but more compliant on the outside i stopped screaming at people when i get angry instead i internalize all my anger and i just imagine ways i would torture and kill people as soon as i had any chance to do it and get away with it like peeling their nails off stabbing their nail beds with needless then putting salt,lemon and carolina peppers in the wounds and waiting for them to die of an infection checking everyday for progress like watching a plant grow out of a seed and then grounding up their body and feeding it to homeless so they can never get a burial and go to heaven instead doomed to haunt a public toilet for all eternity and grief my teammates in team based online videogames).
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>>6014935
>>6015122

how are you able to daytrade in the military? don't you have to work?
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I'm a data analyst and state employee, so civil servant I guess
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>>6017589
You've clearly never been in a govt job.
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medical lab tech, I want to go back to school for microbio research once I have the motivation to stick with it. Early shift gives me time to draw in the afternoon luckily.
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>>6017589
I literally do not work even at work. Imagine unironically thinking anyone in the military works let alone office military folk.

Even on exercise you just spend maybe 20% of the time actually doing anything. The rest of the time is spent smoking or doing literally nothing.

This only applies to POGs and not retarded infantry or combat MOS IDs.
>>6015122
based fellow mil chad
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Project manager for a insulation company, I have to drive for long hours to measure pipes and shit, kill me.
All because every industrial design job require more than 3 years experience
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>>6017635
True bro. Literally don’t do shit for half of the day and Uncle Same keeps paying good money.
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>>6014523
Retail
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>>6017527
First world amounts which is pretty attainable with my prices, but I procrastinate hard
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Something close to maintenance/ overall mechanical problem fixer at a car part factory. I hate every second of it and it has not been letting me d my art reps. It makes me unhappy.
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engineering drop out but got back up and currently taking a CS degree
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Graphic design and photo-retouching. Boring but it pays well.
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>>6017964
I’m sorry anon, of all the people in the thread you sound the most gmi cause your job makes you sad but you’re still persisting with it, which is Chad behavior
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>>6018007
Persisting with the art I mean, not the job. Wishing you the best!!! Keep fighting king
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Concept Artist for the past 11 years
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I‘m a lawyer
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>>6017981
I have a question for you, if you don't mind.

I'm in Software development at the moment but I'm planning to take a 2 month course in Graphic Design, becouse I'm not sure I am fit for software development anymore.

Do you have any tips for me to follow or general advice?
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>>6017543
Thanks for the perspective, Anon :)

I really appreciate the information, I just want to make sure I can get the most out of my therapy sessions.
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>>6016821
Thank you pal, I will :)
>>6017526
Congrats on taking that first step anon!
I think you'll get the best results when you practise a lot of self-reflection, in and outside of therapy.
Try to really understand what makes you do the things you do, because people don't just do things for no reason.
There's always an underlying cause for your symptoms, whether mental or physical (if you have any physical problems, it's important that you see someone about that too, because mental problems can arise from that as well) and if it's something that can't be cured, it can usually still at least be treated and made more bearable.
Internalise the concept of inherent worth and be proud of yourself for staying alive throughout difficult times.
If you can, build stronger connections with people, strengthen your safety net, adjust your environment to your needs where possible and get away from people who hurt you, no matter how much they try to manipulate you into staying.
Remember to take responsibility for your actions without focusing on who is or isn't to blame and be kind and gentle to yourself. If anyone offers to help, try to accept it, you deserve good things.
It may also help to research tools and coping strategies for when things get really bad; back when I was at extreme levels of stress, I'd sometimes feel that I needed to destroy things or hurt myself, and I felt very helpless about it, so I tried to plan safer outlets beforehand.
Personally, I found it satisfying to burn something safely in the sink, others might smell on something really nasty to snap themselves out of it or eat extremely spicy foods; different stuff works for different people during different moods.
Not every therapist will go through this stuff, they may specialise in different areas, but you can still make use of online resources like mental health emergency toolkits that may help along the journey as well and share it with your therapist.
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>>6017526
>>6018354
(2/2)

It's all a long process that requires a lot of work on all sites. And you may generally need a lot of time to process things emotionally; I've had a sudden onset of insomnia for 2 years after a bad panic attack that came seemingly out of nowhere, but it was most likely because of emotional flashbacks; the sleeping problems went away after that time period though.
Also, if your therapist is ignoring or harassing you or generally making things worse, find a different therapist. I've briefly had one who only wanted to talk about a specific past trauma, deflected any attempts to talk about present circumstances and thought I was seeing things, just because I often looked out of the window; physical doctors are the same, if they don't really listen to you, you'll want to go to a different place.
You should be able to bring up what you feel is important to talk about.
There are different forms of therapy as well, so if it's not working out with one form, another might help.
There's no guarantee that therapy will work, but you can always try again.
I think the most important factor is really hope, however faint and weak it is; anything that lets you get up again and fight for a better life.
...So I can only speak from personal experience and things that helped me personally; I don't know if any of what I said is actually helpful for your specific situation...
I've been extremely lucky to find people who really helped me and I wish you all the luck to find just what you need as well!
Whatever your pain is, I hope it'll start withering as you grow and heal.
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>>6017543
I'm not sure whether bottling it up is a good idea, it can hurt you in the long term.
Aren't there any healthier outlets that work for you?
If you're ever up for trying again, I hope you'll find a therapist you can work well with together...
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>>6014523
Currently unemployed, soon to be wagie.
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>>6018354
>>6018356
Thank you very much for the more, in-depth perspective, Anon.

The main reason I'm going to the therapist is due to my experiences with college right now. I hate it, I really really hate the work I am doing right now. I can't imagine doing this work for the rest of my worthless life.

There are some things in my life that have compelled me to make a lot of bad decisions right now, that I need to find some way to address without using drugs.

But I can't up and leave my current studies right now until I've had a good chat with my therapist so that I can make sure I make an informed decision, one that is completely practical and honest.
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>>6016559
So do you do the inking or are you in charge of the drafting for a page?
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>>6016119
Do you have a plan of action for how you want to get into art professionally?
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>>6016115
Can I ask you about that field of art?

I've heard about people in that field but I never get a clear answer on what it is exactly.

What is it you do specifically?
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>>6018210
how can you even draw with these draconian conditions
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>>6014727
How are you on /ic/?
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>>6017635
I do work a Gov job actually but I still couldn’t day trade because every so often I’m called or have to be in some meeting or do something even though it’s like 5% of the time
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>>6014523
loli porn artist
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>>6017327
HAHA you pwnd that nigger
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>>6018269
Not him, but it depends on where you live. If you live in a third world country don't even dive into graphic design, they will pay you pennies and you will work very hard.
All jobs suck in one way or another. Your experience will depend a lot in what kind of employer you get and the employees that surround you. So basically you could have an amazing experience working as a software developer in one company and a terrible experience in another one. It's like a cointoss.
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>>6018568
I hesitate to ask how the fuck you managed to get that job.
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>>6014523
I got a degree in CS a year ago, but now I am a desk monkey at an airport. I mostly look at paperwork and check if there is nothing that is out of the ordinary or erroneous and I give documents to truck drivers that come to pick up cargo. It's surprisingly stressful and has a high turnover rate.
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>>6016658
NTA, but the work itself is fine. Corporate is 100% bullshit though, also the golden age of programming is over. The time of sitting down to create something is the past. Most of what people do is to glue existing frameworks together and configure them.
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>>6018269

Kek why do you want to be a globohomo artist?
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>>6014523
fulltime housewife with no kids

drawing whenever not doing my waifu duties
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>>6014523
work in a warehouse
really, really tried to get into academics and become a doctor but i never really had anything i'd spend time studying for
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>>6019015
pyw
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>>6018985
Becouse I need the money but I don't have enough skill to get it right now?
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>>6014523
glowie stuff
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>>6014523
I work in a warehouse but for 60k a year with medical coverage I can't complain.

It does leave little energy for art though, I sometimes sleep upwards of 13 hours because of the ridiculous amount of cardio I do daily. It's a little frustrating because I'd be stupid to leave the job when it pays so nicely but moving boxes and pushing carts isn't exactly a career that inspires confidence, I wish I had the time to practice more and get a side job freelancing off the ground.
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Midget brothel Receptionist.....
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>>6016756
Pretty much commissions all of em
Been thinking of getting into the doujin scene but i have to quit my day job to have time for that. Potentially could make more than my day job.
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>>6019185
Why the hell does a box moving warehouse job pay 60k? Are you moving priceless artwork or nuclear warheads? 60k dollars translates to £46k here and thats the kind of salary a head teacher might get. I make 10k less and have a degree. Im jealous anon
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>>6019553
I mean they call you europoors for a reason...
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>>6019557
Well at least we get free healthcare heh..... heh......
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>>6019015
Ayyy Full time housewife lyfe
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mating press accepter
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>>6019553
How many people are willing or even capable of doing physical labor? It comes with injury risk, is hard on your body, and doesn't really lead into any long-term career paths.
Amazon alone basically vacuumed up every worker who could be persuaded into trying warehouse work, and shipping + everyone else are fighting to hire the scraps.
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>>6019553
I work at a Costco.
I wormed my way into being a topped out employee within only 3 and a half years and even before I start considering bonus checks I get over 26 dollars an hour, and on Sundays that's 39 dollars an hour since we get time and a half. That really adds up at 40 hours a week and I earn a little extra cash on the side too.
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>>6019577
I mean, most labor intensive jobs like warehouse and construction always need people, but they pay pennies and are always hiring cheap labor from third world countries because no one wants to work 12 hours for sub 2k a month.
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I'm a CNA and work 4/5 days every other week respectively
I bought a tablet so I can draw at break time/when the shift winds down
I draw coom for pocket money and am about to start going to college agin
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>>6018269

I wish I could give you some specific advice on how to "break into" graphic design, but my own experience has been a long and wandering road to get here. I studied animation in college and I've worked in print shops, greeting card companies, animation studios, and as an illustrator and freelance designer. I got my current job by just having a ton of experience with graphics in general and specifically Photoshop and Illustrator.

If you want to focus on graphic design I recommend you start doing Photoshop and Illustrator tutorials now. I resisted learning Illustrator for years because it's so counterintuitive to work with, and that closed a lot of doors for me. Working with vector art in general is very technical and runs counter to the creative process of most artists, so it's a good idea to know what you're planning, at least in general, before you start. Photoshop is easier to get into but very deep. Many people never gain an in-depth understanding of the program, even after many years of using it.

The good thing is that there are a lot more tutorials available than when I went to school, so you can basically get a full graphic design education from YouTube.

So, basically, when you're bored and don't know what to do with yourself, pop open a 30 minute tutorial and follow along. Eventually you will get a decent understanding of the software and techniques you'll need to know.

>>6018985

No globohomo. Just a lot of retouching toy designs to pitch ideas to corporate clients, or cleaning up the mold-lines and paint-swirls on the prototypes from the crappy Chinese manufacturers, so we can put a decent-looking product on the box.
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>>6019723
should have added 4chan on the lists of websites/apps
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>>6014523
I drive
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I work with clothes. Bout to leave soon.
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>>6017327
>>6018581
holy samefag
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>>6019723
>tfw already on step 5
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>>6014523
currently trying to crawl through uni
later i plan on going for construction as a regular worker, after i learn how to do things, go for foreman and look for a design office to finish degree
after i manage all that i will most likely fuck off back to construction as a manager on site with a bit of single house design in some office

i regret not going for some job that would be in bum fuck nowhere with the least human contact necessary, but i would probably regret that too in some way if i did go that route
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>>6014523
security
but i actually just draw at work
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>>6020132
Why construction? Your degree's related to it?
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>>6019995
brian it was just a joke we're just joking and we're just jealous of your paint bucks :(
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>>6018477

Nothing concrete or structured, I'm targeting illustration and currently I spend most of the 3-4 hours of my daily free time I have doing courses and drawing, I'm trying to keep track of the things I lack in

I'm just doing it and putting my stuff out there until someone notices, I just feel like there more bad days where I'm tired, can't think straight and get nothing worthwhile done than good ones
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>>6020305
Aight, it's cool you've got some plan in motion at least.
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>>6014523
i suck mean cock on the down low, i aint gay tho'
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>>6019723
Accurate.
It's not that there's nothing you can do about it normally though, some people just get stuck way too deep. Especially if they're too anxious to approach others or instant gratification includes drugs they're taking alone, like >>6020073

Don't most people here have some goal though?
I mean, you're studying art for a reason, right.
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Just about to finish my bachelor of industrial design.
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>>6020151
Almost same. I'm a receptionist and draw/write at work.
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>>6021326
Want to suck my cock?
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>>6014523
i work for a kids magazine currently and draw stuff for it
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I'm on contract in a big company and my job involves talking to people and facilitating meetings everyday
I want to die, I hate people so much
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working as a freelancer atm for DND and people's DND campaigns , currently tyring to fill in a form to join mtg freelance artists , or be a trainee under their internship program
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>>6017281
the glow around the eye socket is really good, was that intentional?
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>>6021816
Source?
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>>6019723
I managed to realize my mistake before I reached step 5 and actually made art a goal of mine and put a lot of effort into it.
Now I'm so deep into this "hobby" that people think of me as an artist despite still having a shitty minwage webdev job.
Which is nice, my goal now is to make a little bit of side money through painting.
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I work as a doctor at the emergency dept. I draw animals almost exclusively
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>>6022329
Doctor furry?
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>>6022332
No lol, absolutely not. I try to learn a lot from Aaron Blaise. I draw real animals. I despise furry art and all things anime. Its fine that other people enjoy it but I believe it to be total crap
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>>6021891
do you hate people or do you hate dealing with people?
I love em, just want nothing to do with em
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>>6023445
Both really, probably more of the latter. What do you like about people?
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>>6023561
everyone's unique, got their own thing going on, I love knowing about what they like/create/think/believe
I believe it's worth being kind to everyone I have to interact with but god it's also incredibly tiring
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>>6021802
What does industrial design involve usually?
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>>6014523
I'm desperate struggling to get commissions because I'm out of a job and I've got like 4 car payments left and then things will get MUCH easier.
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>>6014954
Sorry, Anon.
I hope things turn out better for you.
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.
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>>6014523
I teach art.
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>>6026454
Cool.
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>>6023445
Who drew this Pic?
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>>6027943
quino is kino
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>>6014869
Pyw? I’m interested
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>>6017898
I can’t stand the hurry up and wait games. I just time for myself to draw
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>>6027982
I just want time*
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>>6019723
>reddit
>tiktok
>discord
>rage comic clearly made post 2018
>no 4chan
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>6019740
>>6028954
Rules 1 and 2, newfags.
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>>6024356
Tldr, but lurker, here. I've always felt exactly the same.
I said this thoughtlessly when out with my hyper-extroverted family a few years ago. The conversation went dead, and they all gaped at me, then at eachother silently, as if I were deeply diseased,
so first time I heard the same comfortably odd combination from someone else. Love you, man. Great attachment, too.
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>>6029055
kys newfag fr fr no cap
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>>6016119
get the hell out while you can desu. You probably have enough money to go neet for a while and draw. Take the leap, you'll never regret it
>t. tech tard that dipped and got into freelance art
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>>6016119
>I get told that I should get all the money I can while it lasts
What does that even mean? If you follow this advice you'll be working this job until you retire.
If you don't want to quit outright, I would suggest you reduce your hours to as low as your expenses can sustain. This should give you more breathing room to pursue art, without having to stress about money.
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>>6029057
most can't understand, they'll just think you're 'shy'
you'll be alright in the end fren, don't worry about 'exiting the comfort zone' or other nonsense people suggest, you have your own way of life and should persue it
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>>6014523
IRL jannie, pretty comfy job, I get to draw when I've finished my daily tasks as long as nobody summons me to clean puke or shit or a food/drink spill.
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I wanna fucking kill myself.
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>>6014523
Teaching assistant at my uni. Make pennies but I'm living off my parents coin technically so I don't really care.
Once I'm out of uni I think I might find an industry position in CS to get a bit comfy, and then return to academia.
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Night Shift Receptionist at Dwarf Gimp dungeon......
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>>6014523
ive been given job offers already but i still dont have my degree yet since i just graduated, hopefully i can just do comfy soulless studio work and do my own thing on the side
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>>6014538
Fpbp
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>>6014523
Industrial Electrician. Work for long hours away from home so I recently bought an iPad Pro so I can grind on the go.
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>>6018475

Lol I'm not saying anything else besides that I don't want some psycho to find out who i am through process of elimination. It's paranoid behavior, I know, but why take the risk. I regret even writing the original post.
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Like most people ITT, I'm working in a job completely unrelated to art: some local mom & pop sign printing shop. Basically just cutting stuff out with X-Acto knives & installing vinyl lettering onto the sides of work trucks.

It's hard not to get tunnel vision about my job sometimes. Meaning, I have to constantly remind myself that this is just some shitty job I found on Craigslist, nothing I'm doing there has any real meaning or importance behind it (despite how stressed out everyone there gets about signs).

Like, nothing I do there has any actual impact on my own personal life or immediate circle. It's all very abstract (I make signs all day that wind up going to some local small business that I've never heard of & don't give two shits about) & I try to keep everything about the job at an emotional arm's length.

That's the only thing that keeps me going throughout the workday: the thought that none of it matters, my time spent at work is the absolute least important part of my day (despite taking up more than half of my waking hours), and the real important part of my life is when I get to go home & work on my art.

I wonder how long I can keep up this charade before I either just quit in a fit of rage one day or go postal on the whole place. lmao
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prep chef. despite working only 4 days out of the week it leaves me exhausted and uninspired and as a result drawing is neglected. it is fun to see improvements in knife work and speed and i might have the opportunity to study sushi preparation in the near future, but ultimately it sucks my mental and physical energy that i wish i could be investing into art instead. maybe i just haven't found the balance and discipline yet. the moment i save up enough money i will decrease it to three days.

>>6029610
>>6030880
same
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>>6014523
I'm a 2D game artist for a local company.
I'm not good though. /int/ at best.
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>>6014523
I work in a factory
It sucks but I need to eat
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>>6031413
How did you get the job? Just apply for it or did you know someone? Genuine question because the game artists I personally know got their job through connections.
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>>6018465
Hey Buddy, not him but i was in your situation.
I hated studying my old college degree (law) and it was hell on earth for me.
All i could do was cope with my druggy friends i had from highschool (which were also my roommates) and being financially dependant on my parents and some shitty job in a super market.
Shit was depressing as fuck. worst time of my life.

I didnt go to therapy but i changed basically every circumstance in my life. I moved away, started a new degree (which i still hate) but it pays full-time. Got new friends. sobered up and i am a much more happy person now.

After I improved my life a lot even my old druggy friends kinda got out of their rut and improved themselves too.

I think the early to mid 20s are a very tough time for this generation. But shit gets better once you get settled with a job you kinda enjoy (studying it is hell but ill get my degree in 3 months if everything works out)
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>>6031151
Nice draw
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>>6019723
gonna try this tonight, what am I in for?
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>>6031723
Thank you for some more perspective, I appreciate it.

The therapist I'm working with at least seems interested in figuring why I think about things in the way I do. I'm journaling the shit that goes on in my head most days so he can read through it and tell me what's up.
I've realized that I am very addicted to the internet.

>(studying it is hell but ill get my degree in 3 months if everything works out)

Dude I'm super happy for you :)
I'm glad things are starting to work out for you, at least a little bit.
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>>6031644
Did they use studios to get work?
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>>6031413
Good for you, Anon :)
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>>6029706
What kinda of jobs?
Like designing characters or something?
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>>6014538
Sapeeeeeee
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>>6014523
I teach taekwondo and pretend to study for college
permanently too tired to do anything and permanently jealous and salty about twitter shit

Still love drawing though and that's what matters, pic is last doodle I did
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bout to get laid off i think from my wagie tier lab job. i wish i didnt care about art, it would make life so much less stressful. If i give up though its truly over i fear. If i dont make it in 2 years im gonna just try and have normalfag goals and die with regret
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i work at a shitty gas station chain, and use college as an excuse to skip work.
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work alone in retail at a place that sees less than 30 customers a day. each day ill spend a minimum of 15 minutes on a page in a sketchbook, so if nothing else i did something for the day
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>>6033109
The guys I know? They literally know someone in the company.
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>>6033938
I'm sorry, Anon.
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>>6033938
neglected?
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>>6035295
i live alone anon, the only one i neglect is myself
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>>6035296
i was guessing what the N stands for lol
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>>6014523
Groundwork at a cemetery
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>>6035379
unironically there's an opening nearby where i live, is the job worth it other than goth girl pussy?
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Why is being an artist so goddamn hard? Why is it so goddamn exhausting to draw anything?
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>>6035928
Cause it's secretly harder than some STEM subjects if you want to actually be good.
I know because my friends are retards and are getting through comp sci, math and engineering degrees but spend most of their free time not studying.
Meanwhile if you spend like 3 days not drawing you lose weeks worth of gains.
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>>6035953
I geuss I'll just have to fucking kill myself then.
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>>6035928
time+real life are very difficult to manage when your older, and how hard it is to get gud. I wish i could kick my 15 year old ass and force him to take it more seriously
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Registered nurse. Work 12hr shifts, approx 3 shifts a week on paper. Can be comfy or high octane depending on specialty, but I work primarily with cardiovascular patients and random medsurg overflows. That’s 4 days of working on my webcomic or vidya
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>>6036640
Is this some of your work?
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>>6037160
Yes it is ^_^
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I’m a remote worker and even I struggle to find the time and energy to just sit down and focus on drawing like I did when I was young. It really sucks.
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>>6038178
Those neck hoops should curve around the neck more, cute grill though.
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>>6024941
Here's a late answer, I hope you see it:

3d-modeling and rendering, might be with programs like SolidWorks, Rhinoceros, Blender, Keyshot, etc. More likely CAD-modeling.
Drawing, and rendering of those, both irl and digitally. Sketching. Focused on simple shapes and items. Drawing isn't the be all end all of ID, but it's important.
Research, workshoping users, comparing competing products, etc.
A bit about manufacturing and materials.
Prototyping, basic metal/wood/foam/cardboard/plastic work, 3d-printing, etc. Propably varies a lot.
In general the design progress, moving from brief into research into design into itorations. Making informed decisions.
A bit of brand design and branding.
This is mostly based on my experience, there might be differences in different schools and countries. I would imagine some places also having more ui/ux stuff tacked on these days.
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I'm a psychotherapist
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>>6014853
Devils top guy. Unless you do actual, unbiased, un(((controlled))) research. In which case glowniggers will be after you.
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>>6038746
you've never had an orignal thought
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>>6014869
What sort of places do you sell your paintings? Local or online?
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janitor at a catholic school
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im a system engineer
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>>6014523
I work at a specialty beer store.
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>>6038178
I like it, you have a very appealing style and a good handle on anatomy.
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>>6014523
space astronaught
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I want to kill myself, dude.
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>>6015250
damn, i didn't know you needed a bachelors to be a librarian.
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>>6038761
>no original thought
>coming from a future doctor
Please seethe harder, scum. Modern medicine is a corrupt field and you are literally only going to do more harm than you can even imagine. But I know you do this for yourself and for ego points and not for others.
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>>6014523
I work at a print shop jogging paper
a lot of physical work
sometimes i get 15 seconds of spare time that i can make a quick drawing
my work is pretty primitve but all i really use it for is a thinking tool for world building
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>>6014523
>What work does /ic/ do?
I'm a certified physician assistant.
I draw for the love of art, so I'm not constantly stressed like the majority of you neurotic poorfags.
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I want to kill myself, I want to fucking die.
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>>6014523
Turd world engineering
Fuck turd world engineering when drawing coom part time is starting to catch up with full time engineering
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>>6043092
You remind me of that game of the guy chopping fish heads while he daydreams about his imaginary world
>>6035379
Whats your art like? Description if u dont wannt pyw
>>6041218
You are intresting anon i love seeing your art pop up randomly with a snippet about yourself
>>6043093
Isnt there a tiny quitecorner in your brain that wishes to do art as a job?
>>6043807
Tell me whats up anon
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>>6015560

The closest I got was being a part-time freelancer designing logos/branding alongside being a bartender; having that work on my portfolio helped just for the fact that it showed I knew something of Photoshop, Illustrator, and design in general. I also had a temp job doing photo retouching for an online company offering personalized products like greeting cards.

Currently I work as a jr. capture director/coordinator in video game advertising.
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>>6014523
waitress
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>>6044370
Thank you for your service.

My mom worked in that industry, it drains the fuck out of you I know.
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>>6044040
That's awesome, Anon.
I'm super duper happy for you :)
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>>6043820
Awesome, Anon.
I'm glad your side gig is taking off in a way.
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>>6041218
Neat imagery, some solid composition here too.
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>>6038732
How's the job treating you?
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I work in a warehouse

I've thought many times about taking a box cutter and going on a homicial rampage and killing everyone there. But instead I come home and channel my anger and frustration into my art.

My dream is the only thing keeping me going. I use that spite because I want to be free from my awful fucking job.
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>>6014523
I do NSFW commissions.
Besides that I'm about to graduate from film school where I studied animation and wasted 4 years of my life learning almost nothing that could actually get me a job in the fucking industry.
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Marketing Analyst
Half my job is bullshitting figures and presenting them in a fashion that makes my position seem relevant.
A quarter of the time is spent convincing project managers that building a campaign around a facebook meme for an international rollout isn't good for a professional industry.
The last quarter is spent reorganizing someone else's work.
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>>6017635
>>6017697
so you get paid to sit around and do nothing? Why don't more people join the military then?
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>>6045016
>Why don't more people join the military then?
because 90% of the "doing nothing 90% of the time" is monitored "nothing" or complete boredom horseshit without access to civilization (this includes stateside/not deployed).
This is if you get extremely lucky.
Any maintenance job (aircraft, ship, vehicle, etc) runs the risk of 100 hour work weeks (while being on call in your "off" hours) for months on end.
Get deployed? You won't know what the fuck you're doing, or exactly where you're going, until you get there. For at least 6 months (not including pre- and post-deployment training exercises).
Got the flu, throwing up in your barracks room, unable to work? You better go stand in line at medical for 2-5 hours until your malingering ass gets a note from the doc. Still sick the next day? Where the fuck is your new note that says so?
Something worse than flu symptoms? Take this generic ibuprofen and drink more water.
Now go clean that filthy bathroom. You got your uniform dirty 2 minutes ago after cleaning literal shit off of some walls? Fix yourself, you're supposed to be inspection ready AT ALL TIMES!
You did X job for four years in the military? Whelp, none of that matters because civilian certs and practices are completely different.
You got a gf/bf/spouse back home? lol ok.
And the BEST part?
You're making about $3/hr for the first few years. If you get smart and game the system (literally everyone tries to) you can bump that up to $10-15 in your first or second reenlistment.
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>>6045160
Ah shit. always a catch.
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>>6038732
Can you give me some therapy?
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>>6044693
How the fuck did that happen?
How I incompotent is your school?
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>>6038761
if you've read even the slightest bit of philosophy you would know that isn't even an insult
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>>6014523
Concept artist.
Don't pyw me. Fuck off
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>>6018269
>2 month course in Graphic Design
Don't do it. Graphic design is just as hard as drawing but simpler. You're better off grinding and learning. The futur by chris do on youtube is good to learn from. I worked as a graphic artist for 2 years before I transitioned into concept art.
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>>6014556
Can you check out this boner for me?
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>>6014523
Coommission
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>>6014556
what's the coolest thing you found?
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>>6047048
Awesome, Anon.

Thank you very much for the advice, Anon :)
I appreciate any sort of wisdom I can come by these days.
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NEET, although I’ve been looking for a real job for a couple of months now.
In a former life I was a CPA who hated auditing. It wasn’t the work they was the problem, but the people. Too many auditors harbor delusions of grandeur.
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Life is scary, man, Jesus Christ.
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Lab analyst.
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I think about scuicide a lot.
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>>6014556
excavate these dubs
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>>6014523
>What work does /ic/ do?

NEET, I used to be a wagie (Warehouse, Dev, Retailcuck) but I don't ever have to work again in my life, a gay, childless, and wealthy relative with no one but me died of cancer, and now I'm set for life... I'm not materialistic, and spend less than min wage per month.

Life is meaningless, and I'm vegetative at this point cuz I've been a NEET for almost 10 years.

Drawing is just a hobby, I have no interest in the industry, and my CV is almost empty lol.
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>>6016119
just downgrade to software developer. being lead sucks all of life
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>>6014556
younger dryass
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>>6043031
>post doc
>a future doctor
i ain't mad, just disappointed
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Since there maybe seem to be some people with a job in the industry here, can anyone give their opinion on art uni? I've been waging for years but recently I'm thinking of getting a degree and an industry relevant portfolio since I have no discipline when it comes to self-study, but tuition is expensive as hell and I'll be close to 30 by the time I'm out. Is it worth it?
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>>6048999
>can anyone give their opinion on art uni?
>I have no discipline when it comes to self-study
Nice trips but art uni still isn't for you. Most of your technique learning is going to have to be self-study in university, with mostly just introductions and basic instruction on some main topics.
You need an atelier or something similar, if you're not of the self-motivated sort.
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>>6043031
>post doc
>future doctor
I'm sure you know a lot about the medical field, anon...
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>>6044708
That sounds painful, I hope the money is worth it.
A friend of mine wants to go into marketing analysis as well though, maybe it's more enjoyable and fulfilling than I seem to understand.
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>>6044574
You have my condolences anon.
Warehouse work sounds draining as fuck, I hope you'll find a way to make a living without having to do what you hate.
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>>6044010
You are so kind anon, thank you for existing
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>>6048999
Assuming entertainment design:
It's purely up to the exact teachers that you have. If you get good artists with industry experience that can do demos during the class and explain concepts clearly then it is much better than any self learning could ever be.
But this is so rare that it basically impossible to find. You essentially have to be living in California for any kind of entertainment design teaching that is worth a damn, and even then the main schools like calarts and art center are expelling all of their good teachers in the interests of diversity hires because all of the good art instructors were white or asian males (not even being hyperbolic, art center let a ton of staff go just before covid in forced retirements due to "bipoc" student groups publicly complaining there were too many old white men teaching them)

Research schools you can go to, look for the teachers on the courses you want to do and look at their work, look at the students, look at their links to studios because if they are supposed to be training you for studi work they should have recruiters coming to the college to see final year stuff and hire people out of the school. See if graduates actually get hired from that school.
Most likely any art schools you find will
- not have teachers with available work online or if they do it is bad
- not have teachers with industry experience for the course they are teaching or of they do it was 20+ years ago and they probably didn't even use computers
- teachers will rarely do demos in class and are glorified supervisors just handing out photocopied info from books
- have very low conversion of graduates into full time work for the intended industry they trained for
- post covid it might be online or hybrid online still, which is useless when you could just self study for a fraction of the cost.
- have an outdated curriculum for an industry that changes rapidly, no digital painting or 3D classes for example is a red flag
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Is Software Development a meme Degree?
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>>6022110
doppel
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im taking to coom pill bros idc, i cant keep going to the office everyday for the next 40 years, no money or anything could help me cope with that
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Is scuicide a good idea?
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>>6054421
Good luck senpai.
>>6054858
No one knows.
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>>6054858
It doesn’t hurt to try
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>>6014523
I'm a neet who just larps as an aritst when I have to talk to anyone irl but in reality I don't even post my art anywhere. You can't even really call mindless fanart "art" in the first place so I have no idea why I've decided to just do nothing all this time. I'm sure everyone thinks I'm a leech but I've somehow convinced them all that I have talent.
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Sales representative for biggest telecom company in my country but im being worked to death and cant into hobbies
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>>6048306
>>6051166
post, future, who cares, doesnt change a thing, I wouldnt trust my health to you alive, but please keep posting cheeky gifs, doctors are cool like in that gif. And the fact that you post here is just out of this world.
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I write transgender erotica to sell on Amazon. I make 6 figures that I really don't deserve, though I think it's just a matter of time before Amazon bans my account.
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>>6055087
I wouldn't trust my health to a post doc either, they're researchers in academia, not medical doctors
but I'm sure you know that
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>>6055809
Are you saying the research is completely irrelevant to my health? Wtf.
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>>6014523
Salesman. Not even the good kind with the extra juicy comp checks, just a phone salesman.
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Does anybody here post on /r9k/?
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>>6014538
You sure about that?
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>>6019015
>housewife with no kids
ah, a 4/10
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>>6041218
that explains the retarded art
>inb4 pyw
not an artist, which allows me to talk even more shit since im outside looking in.
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Data entry, warehouse staff, callcenter etc, for a cellphone carrier. Actually, I have no idea on how to fucking draw or why I still come here.
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I got some important questions I gotta ask you muthafuckers when I'm done with my daily jogging session.

So, be weary of the dumbass questuons coming your way.
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>>6014523
Neet atm. Was a cashier at a dollar store. Quit and trying to get a job at a super market to do the same thing but for better pay and benefits. Using this time in between to draw, but for some reason my autistic ass keeps rejecting commission work.
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>>6014523
Plumber
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>>6059131
py big juicy suckable cock with a big blue vein down it
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>>6014556
Get borrows at the gravel bar so it keeps going
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I have legitimately no clue what I'm doing with my life.
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>>6014523
I graduated production engineering but work a shitty dead end job in quality control in a factory. I'm quitting by the end of june to study coding full time, go on an internship and possibly go back to college and do masters in game dev.

I'm fucking sick and tired of working a boring (and dangerous as fuck) job, if I'm gonna spend half of my life doing something, I might aswell do something I find interesting.
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>>6014523
Just a pharmacy technician for now (don't even think about being one). Looking forward to working on small comics that are quick to read. Trying to write and read more on topics that interest me in the meantime.





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