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Post your work and anons will tell how much they'll pay for it if they were the buyer
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>>6056736
Anons aren't interested in buying art, they will pay next to nothing
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>>6056736
Artist always devalues art since they can just make it themselves not a good thread for ic.
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>>6056736
And they aren't even willing to pay for books and courses
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>>6056739
Yeah no one here has (a) money or (b) the naivety or motivation to spend money on art unless it is literally by an artist they worship and usually at that point the cost for a commission is too high.
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>>6056746
>sketch
$5, market price
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>>6056743
I'm paying for books. But for art I'd only do trades, really. Mainly because I never know how much is too much or too less.
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>>6056739
We are supposed to play pretend in order find out much other people value the art someone has produced
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>>6056736
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>>6056754
Oh I see, I'll pretend I'm Bezos
>>6056758
3 million. Marvelous art
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>>6056746
>>6056751
Honestly as far as sketch goes, it's rather good. I would pay $15 without bargaining
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>>6056758
40 bucks
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>>6056760
Only 3 million!? Pathetic, here 10 million easy. I haven't even looked at the art, that's how great I am
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>>6056777
50 for you, Mr. Jeezuz
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>>6056789
12-14
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>>6056746
NO COLOR??? WORTHLESS
>spend 5 minutes adding color
WOOOAH I LOVE UR ART HERE's $100
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Without a body of work showing you're consistent people will second guess a lot getting work from you
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your not gonna get serious prices here anons
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>>6056872
You're not gonna get serious prices on the free market as well so it's fine
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>>6056872
>Serious prices
The free market says I deserve only twice what the janny does, I'd rather listen to anons
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>>6056746
50
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>>6056746
>>6056758
>>6056777
>>6056789
$0.00
Art has no value to society and is not real work
I'm sorry you all wasted so many years honing a worthless skill
but I hear there are plenty of opening for apprentices for trade jobs, start there
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>>6057085
Art is the only constant throughout of human history. Art is what separates us from animals. Your post is dumb cope.
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>>6056736
Old but def one of my most timely pieces
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>>6057094
Sorry but art has not done anything for humanity
all it has done is lead to a much of millennials thinking that can become artists so they can get out of work
I'm sorry your communist professor told you lies and made you have debt that will stick with you for the rest of your life
but it doesn't change the fact that artist is not a real job
hell even onlyfans whores do more work and add more value then artists and that isn't real work either
now wake up from this fantasy go get a real job and you can thank me later
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>>6057116
Art is not only what you see on the internet and what you don't like. Art doesn't exist since the 90s.
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>>6057097
$0.00 develop a real skill

>>6057123
sorry art doesn't matter what year or what style art isn't real work
art is for little kids, hell even I drew when I was little then I grew up
you should consider doing the same you'll have a lot more money trust me
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>>6057132
dumb tourist post. You got your (You)s. Now go.
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>>6057132
Here’s your (you) that you want so bad
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>>6057138
>>6057140
truth hurts sometimes but all I want to do is help you all
I used to have a friend who wanted to be an artist, went to school took life drawing classes the whole nine yards
and do you know where he is right now?

he is still living with his parents drowning in debt, over thirty years old with nothing to his name and a bunch of scribbles
now do you want to be like him or do you want to be a grown up and a contributing member of society
making people happy by fixing their house or unclogging their drains
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>>6057151
I'm making people happy by giving them waifus to beat their meat to
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>>6057154
nope you are just wasting time at best and feeding an addiction at worst
there is a lot of demand for plumbers and electricians nowadays anon and you'll make so much good honest cash
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>>6057151
No one cares for (You)r tragic backstory. Tell that to your therapist.
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>>6057172
it's not even "his" tragic backstory, it's his friend's.
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>>6057172
Its not my story
its the story of all who go down the path of the artist
one that only has one road, that being living with your parents in debt
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>>6057178
It's a story you made about yourself to justify your actions.
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>>6057178
You're like a parody of a crab.
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>>6057178
you sound like you wanted to attend the same art school as your friend but didn't even get accepted.
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>>6057186
I wish I had made it up then there wouldn't be a life wasted
that is why I wish to help those who go down this path
I mean just look at the art on this board all of it is total amateur kindergarten stuff that most four year olds can do
no one on this board will ever make it in this "career" lol path
sorry reality is tough but everyone hear needs to hear it
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>>6057195
Here's your (You).
Keep the change.
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>>6057191
Not got into a trade job and I own my house
not even if you payed me would I ever go back to being a child, or as I like to call it "the collage experience"
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>>6056777
>>6056758
>>6056746
I'd be really hard pressed to pay for digital art, unless I was buying the rights to use for a business (which I don't have).
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>>6056752
ten bucks for each but that's the best I can do
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>>6057206
>>6057209
see just more proof that art is just something you do for fun, just any other childhood activity
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>>6056752
>>6056746
>>6056777
>>6057097
awesome work fellas

>>6056789
keep up the grind homie

>>6056758
best itt
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>>6056746
$40
>>6056758
$50
>>6056777
At least $80 easily
>>6056789
Too early to be taking commissions
>>6057094
Whatever the price is for hosting the server it was generated on
>>6057097
$50

Replying to obvious bait: priceless
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>>6057085
wait until you find out about stock trading or house flipping
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>>6056777
employment in a company with at least 70k yearly wage if you can make these consistently and on time
that shield is in a different plane from the character tho
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Those threads are only fun if you post earlier. People don't give a fuck for later drawings.
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>>6056752
you could make a killing on etsy because women love this kinda stuff
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>>6057270
Both of those things are real work since they, are you ready for this? add value to people unlike like art
yes yes I know collage grads with worthless degrees hate this fact but guess what stocks add value to companies and house flipping adds value by fixing up a home art is just lines on paper that does nothing
but down das capital and pick up some basic economics books friend
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>>6057412
$0.00
>>6057695
$0.00
>>6057699
$0.00
>>6057703
Honestly you should give me money for even looking at this
I've seen five year olds do better then this, honestly can't tell if you are trolling or not
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>>6057847
please explain to me how shorting 140% of the company therefore decreasing its stock price actually ads value
or how buying up property and sitting on it until price goes up is an actual job with value to society
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>>6057151
that could have been me but i was smart enough to learn to code at 26 so i have a
future
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This thread is indicative of the rot that has settled into /ic/. Fuck you mods for not cleaning this up sooner
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>>6057905
Good for you anon I'm glad to hear it
and that's the thing I think most will not see is you can still do art but trying to make it a career is foolhardy and you'll be a lot more richer and happier if you choose a sable/in demand job rather then chasing a dream you had while still in diaper's
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>>6057097
if I could get this in an HD 20x30 print I'd pay 70-100
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>>6056736
Apologies in advance for the shit quality, I had to send it from my phone and crop it
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>>6057981
Instagram pfp tier. Probably $5-$10, more if there's a body too
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>>6057997
Huh so I guess /ic/ really would pay for Ai generated artwork.
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>>6056736
these threads are less than worthless because /ic/
>never actually commissions art
>horrifically underpays when they estimate
Take whatever /ic/ tells you to charge and triple it
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>>6058004
More like art is fake no matter what so even giving a penny for any artwork is too much
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>>6058009
>>never actually commissions art
I beg to differ, I do commission art regularly.
But I agree that I don't know how to put a price on it and I just let the artist put whatever pricetag he wants, then see if it matches my budget.
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>>6057855
How much do you want?
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>>6058120
a night with her
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>>6056746
$290.
this board is delusional
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>>6057085
art has plenty of value if you know how to present it/ sell it outside of it just being art. Paintings are great for decor, art is used as an asset for video games a lot, animation for entertainment, paintings for money laundering, nfts for money laundering, nsfw art for spanking the monkey, youtube thumbnails, concept art, etc.
To only look on the subjective side of art and judge it based on that is just plain myopic.
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>>6057803
Etsy hasn't been kind to us Germans because of some dumb new regulations. I might start looking into it again later this year.
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>>6058477
I would buy this comfy painting for €500.
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>>6058004
gotem
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>>6058177
this board is spiteful begs, who dont know what skill looks like or are offended by it
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>>6058477
$1000
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>>6056752
very cute and comfy, i would not be opposed to having one in my room
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>>6059069
Yeah and they, funnily just like most normies, think only realistic or landscape are real art with a capital A. Heaven forbids someone drawing anime or any popular art styles. But then again anyone who stays in this place for more than a few years are probably begs in permanent stagnation, so they become spiteful and feed their ego by crabbing. It's sad more than anything. And they are easily baited by no life trolls too, as you can see in this thread
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>>6056752
I’d pay a good 35-40 or so for each. You should sell these on Etsy or Instagram, theee are very nice
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>>6059069
This board is filled with non-artist and perma/beg/s. What did you expect?
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>>6056746
$30-40 given it's a hips-up sketch. Very clean, I like the lighting.


>>6056758
$120-130, though It's not the type of style i seek out, it's charming, the background is good, multiple characters and cute linework/design sense.

>>6056777
easily, EASILY pay 200+, though for ease catching of clients I'd price it around $170. It's a cleanly lined full body in an appealing style wearing semi-complex armor (which a lot of DND style artist charge extra for, just a tip!)

>>6056789
$10. Work on your fundies and appeal

>>6057412
...It seems to be fetish art, so I'm not sure how pricing that usually goes. I know they tend to shell out for it so however much this type normally goes for?
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>>6056746
1 eth
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>>6058177
>paying $290 for those hands
Lmao, is that your drawing?
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>>6059482
What do you expect this site has been taken over by discord users who want a hugbox, hence why saying anything but praise will get people complaining calling you a troll
no one is being honest about these prices, just ask yourself if they honestly could get prices like that would they still be here
not to mention I feel like some of the ones with frames look like cheap paintings you'd find at a charity store
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>>6056746
I want to fuck that thing. Super cute design
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>>6059884
$0.00
with the advice art my not be for you
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>>6059892
Are you the thread OP or are you just some autist who settled in to reply to every work posted with the same joke?
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>>6059884
This style, about $25 imo?? It's not great but it's cute and has some appeal. if you had more confidence in your hands I'd bump it to solidly $30
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>>6059896
Joke?
hey do you not want honest opinions on the value of the work?
and tbqh most stuff on here is utter rubbish
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How much for sketch ?
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>>6059977
$0.00
C'MON THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT?!
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>>6059979

Why is worth 0$ mate ? I put some effort into it
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>>6059977
50 kroner
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>>6059981
I put some effort into my morning shit, nobody paid me yet
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>>6059981
Well okay let's discuss this this since I know a lot of people are getting upset
so let's say I've got money right, so now what you've gotta do is convince me to give this money up
so if you set low like idk $5, well that means I couldn't buy myself a soda, and sorry I'll get way more out of a bottle of pepsi then I will your drawing
or if say you make it $100, well I couldn't buy a new game then and once again I'll get more out of elden rings then any drawing in the history of ever
this is why no one will pay for artwork that will be looked at for at most a couple of minutes vs even a soda pop that will give objectively more enjoyment then staring at lines on a piece of paper
sorry art has no use whatsoever hence why no value and not real work
/thread
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>>6060003
Nice logic kid. You retarded or something ? Why would I try to convince you to buy art ? It's as futile as trying to convince you of buying tampons.

>>6059987
Ty I'll take it I always coveted myself some kroners
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>>6060003
>>6060003
Lmao, what a try hard loser. You are using your own values and shilling this shit at every drawing knowing full well people will get upset even with the context and going back at trying to sound reasonable. I wound't put behind you samefagging with angry responses just to try to get another person to say something.

By your logic money has no value, it's just paper, what has value is gold because it's rare, food has value because it has nutrition, money? No, you need to add value to it so it has no value. but you are using something that has no value to judge how much things are worth. Stupid, hypocrite and try hard all for attention and internet points, that also have no value. Don't know if you use reddit but you fit right in.
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>>6060044
Money my boy is proof of labour
when I hand someone a pound it means that that is me transferring part of my labour over to someone else's labour so yes money has no inherent value mainly because its a trade medium
my goodness maybe you should have taken an economics class once in your life fool

Art has no value because it has no value and even the resources to create art is dirt cheap, couple of quid and you'll get every thing you'll need to make your silly lines, that's why art has no value
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>>6060057
Lmao, are you stupid or what? You don't need to work to get money, you can just get lucky, heck have you heard of interest? Are really serious? You think you are clever, that comming here and getting two responses calling you a dumbass somehow makes you a master troll? No, you are just the sort of person that ruined this website to the ground and you have fucking hundreds of you at very fucking second ruined all boards with any sort of movement.

Your logic makes no sense, anyone can find easily thousands of flaws and contractions, is fedora levels of "wow I'm so smart" and the only thing you can do is say the same thing over and over again time to time trying as hard as you can say someone is so angry like it makes any difference. Is that you masterplan? To be called retarded over and over again while you ignore everything is being said again and again to your face were you need to force any sort of reaction? Really clever and original, never seem anyone acting like this around those parts.
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What? Did you shut up now? Will be hilarious to see he posting the same shit again knowing full well that he got his ass fucked in three replies. What a fucking try hard loser.
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>>6060057
Money isn't proof of labour wtf u on mate. Go to a slot machine and win - where's the labor there ? Oh you might say you worked for the money. Maybe not,. maybe your parents gave it to you, maybe you stole it

Dude if you wanna make people cry don't claim their art is worthless. show them why. Dissect their style, their technical shortcomings , the limits of their imagination. But guess what you can't do that because you, yourself has none of those things. Ooof - keep trying though by pure chance u'll upset someone
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>>6060096
It is still proof of labour even if its not your own
after all would you give credit to the manufactures of the pencils or paper your artwork is drawn on?

always remember there is no such thing as a free lunch

>>6060062
you sound angry I'd suggest going outside and calming down, not good for the blood pressure to be so angry
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>>6058483
>>6059075
what is this, Antiques Roadshow?
100 with the frame
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>>6061071
Oh no, he is back, doing exactly I said he would do. What a surprise. Such deep and intelligent individual, really showed how it's done acting like I said you would, that's a really smart move out of your part.
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i'm telling you this baby right here is going to the moon once the syphilis makes me demented and i get on the news for eating my own leg or some shit
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>>6061147
Well until then its worth $0.00
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I wouldn’t sell this one, anyway.
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another pricing thread ruined by a no life that has time on his hands to hover an entire thread for a day... no brain capacity to understand how pathetic they are... truly poetic...please keep posting artwork to keep this idiot preoccupied...he seems to have nothing better to do, and it's always fun to feed the trolls
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I charged 40 bucks for this one
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>>6061351
I'll pay you 100$ to remove it
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these'll be displayed at an open air exhibition. first time doing this shit. am I way off?
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>>6061760
I would buy the motorcycle one and put in a clean frame in my room. Pretty cheap even, I charge double for my shitty porn.
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“Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it” — Publilius Syrus
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>>6061794
Very true
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>>6057085
sorry fag, art has value because that's why it costs money. Stop giving economics advice when you have an ideology based on the fact that you are an incapable worthless crab
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>>6061489
Thats more than what i got paid to make it, but leaving it here to make you seeth is priceless.
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>>6057085
People pay to see things in their head
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>>6061969
cum
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>>6061969
lack? hack?
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How much would you pay for work done by actual professionals?
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>>6062061
$50-$100 cause never spend more than that on non-essential goods at a time unless it's literally going to help me earn money.

But if I had cash to burn I would spend up to $1000 on an original painting by an artist I really liked. Traditional only though. I just don't give a shit about digital commissions from other artists. I might as well just look at their other art and download that.
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>>6062061
everything i have seems fair, because everything they sell they sell commercially. as an individual, i can't compete enough to make a single-serve painting worth their time. i need those thousands to live, so i'm unable to properly commission the industry greats.
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>>6059884
blog... BLOG????
>>6061351
$3
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>>6062739
@RandomCrit
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>>6062056
>>6062061
>>6062747
absolutely zero dollars
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>>6059977
$30
>>6061147
$15
>>6061272
$30
>>6061337
$40 is fair
>>6061351
$20 for quality but you can probably add $10 for being extreme fetish art
>>6061760
IMO you could charge at least $60 for the pencil/pen drawings, they're cool
>>6061969
$45
>>6062056
$70-80
>>6062747
$45

source:my ass
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How much you offer?
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>>6062834
trade?
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Where do you go to sell prints of things? I'm very new to this and I've heard etsy is the way to go, but is it the only way?
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>>6062959
3€
>>6062747
2€
>>6062056
20€
>>6061969
5€
>>6061351
0€
>>6061337
5€


CAPTCHA: guro2
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>>6057085
My Patreon numbers disagree with you.

I know you are baiting, but I love to put baiters in their place.
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>>6063353
so insecure lol
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non begs are getting underpriced and getting lumped with begs hate to see it
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>>6062793
Thanks bro, your art is a little rough but I really dig it
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>>6064024
point out the non begs
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>>6062838
ok
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>>6064049
Thanks shmo, your dick is a little small, but I really dig it.
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>>6059127
>tfw getting less than 5 dollars per hour of work time
Fuck. Now I understand how third worlders must feel.
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>>6056777
If you are willing to draw really gross gay shit you can make bank.

Why's the boss no where near the middle of the shield tho
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>>6064177

Youre saying this board is filled with begs?
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We're all gonna make it, bros.
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>>6064189
yo cat guy
got a present for you after my ink dries
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>>6064265
Noice. Post it in the trad chad thread, my fren.
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Can I sell this to a rich person?
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>>6064468
Only if you paint it in oil.
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>>6063336
wow
that's so much I guess being an artist is a real job
see dad told you I can make a living off my art
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>>6064200
Yes. undisputable so
that's why the joke is funny, because anyone on here with these terrible art skills think they can anyway make art their career is delusional at best
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I just got my first ever commission request. A girl wants me to draw her in the style of this cowkini drawing I did. How much should I charge her??
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>>6064659
I'd do around 25 or 30
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>>6064659
Is she going to model in person for you anon
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>>6065121
Although this is one character, most of the time I end up doing backgrounds and extra characters.

Opinions on how to price those?
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>>6065122
Example
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>>6065121
>>6065142
I'd pay um.... $0.00 for
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>>6065113
No she'll just send me reference photos of herself probably (I don't now what she looks like yet.) I'm trying to resist the temptation to lowball myself just so I can draw an irl girl in a cowkini.

>>6064823
this is the lowball amount I'm trying to keep myself from offering
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>>6065142
look at this bitch : https://twitter.com/viridiandrop/status/1413976158845083651?cxt=HHwWhoCpzeX0uZ8nAAAA
use her as a scale of what morons are willing to pay for subpar artwork
you might end up underselling your art if you think everyone has a high stanndard

always remember "if you draw it they will cum"
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>>6057151
>or do you want to be a grown up and a contributing member of society
Oh yes please! I love society!
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>>6065495
these are mega poverty prices though. Anon should charge at least double or triple what this artist is doing. Especially since they do NSFW art.
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>>6065493
>this is the lowball amount I'm trying to keep myself from offering
Kek I do tend to lowball myself, mostly basing prices off skeb rn since most decent nips charge 7k+ for a full color waist up.
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>>6065517
the world would be a better place if artists just charged skeb prices instead of going off what teenage girls charge
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>>6065529
To be fair on skeb you won't get harassed by asshole clients who complain about every little detail and ask for 30 fixes and then cry and bitch that your drawing looks nothing like what they asked for and demand a refund.
What you get is what you get.
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Cant take this board seriously. Shitting lowball offers is typical for ic
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>>6065543
Yeah skeb is set up to avoid that by design too, since it doesn't let commissioners communicate with artists beyond the initial art request. We need something like that for Westerners.
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>>6065493
im curious anon
if she is some slampig, do you draw her like that or give her a regular anime body?
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>>6065682
I will draw with her whatever body type she has, unless she requests otherwise.
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>>6056736
i do commissions sometimes. latest one i did this for 5$, am i selling it for a correct price or should i increase?
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I got banned and can't post pictures for some reason, even though I posted like 2 drawings here, so here's a link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPq3C7xXIAMGbvZ?format=jpg&name=large
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>>6065848
$0.00
>>6065938
might want to change the price to $0
>>6065947
$0.00
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>>6065938
Depends on how long you spent on that and how much your customers are willing to pay, for me something like your pic is maybe 15.
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>>6065938
5 is pretty cheap, but if you are getting a good number of commissions increasing a little wouldn't hurt.
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>>6065947
That's pretty nice, do you have a blog I can follow you?
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Here’s a few examples
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>>6066467
25-30 usd at the most
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How differently would you price these two?
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>>6066388
I’m pretty sure that’s someone baiting by posting polyle
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>price check thread
>retards posting sketches and scribbles, photo studies and floating heads
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>>6066622
I just wanna some bucks dude
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>>6066649
make a finished drawing then, retard
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>>6056746
$40~$60
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>>6065938
Depends on how much comm you're getting.
$5~$15 is a decent starting point. If you're always full then you could raise by $5~$10 at a time.
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Charge no less than 50 USD for anything.
If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you aren't ready to do commissions seriously.
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>>6066716
Yeah I would start with $10 an hour but weight all my prices so that people pick the $50 option.
Like:
I can get out a color figure in 4-5 hours and I want to do 2 of those a day so I weight my menu like:
Sketch: $25 (probably doesnt take 2.5 hours to do this but its weighted to be closer to full color)
Clean Lineart: $35 (same as above)
Full Color: $50

I know normies prefer color so they will just look at those prices and probably go for the Full Color if they have any interest in commissioning me. If I don't think I can offer $50 commissions then I wouldn't even start because the kind of clients that give you 5/10/15 dollar commissions are kids, teenagers, cheapskates etc that are more likely to demand $50 worth of your time on corrections and misleading requests. You will end up working all day on two $10 commissions.
And even if I get $25 or $35 commissions for sketch or lineart, I'm getting paid more than my actual rate for these so it becomes worth it.
Then if I get maxed on commission slots I raise my rate to $15 an hour or around $80 for a Full Color piece and scale my sketch and lineart options appropriately.

Also when you are starting from no commissions you should be posting examples of commission level artwork constantly that you just do for yourself but call them commission pieces so people feel like you have experience doing commissions and hitting commission deadlines.
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>>6066502
I don't even know how you price kirbys, do you even count them as characters?
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>>6066728
>this nigger seriously thinks he’s going to be getting 60 commissions a month, 720 a year
>at any price past $20
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>>6066850
No the maximum would be 10 slots per week of $50 commissions but it's unlikely the slots would be maxed out without a lot of exposure and if ever near maxing out = increase prices.
Goals would be:
- 1 commission per week on avg
- 3 commissions per week on avg
- 5 commissions per week on avg
- Try to increase prices if demand can justify it.
- Aim for less commissions without reducing overall commission income.

Commissions would be supplemented with:
- a part time job unrelated to art that you quit when possible
- try to get contract work by slinging your portfolio everywhere
- try to build up a community on social media by making your studies into 2-3 panel comics that engage people much better than a floating figure
- make a free simple visual novel type game to test interest for future patreon possibility (and just cause its fun)
- try out simple animation loops for social media engagement since people love using them for discord type memes
- I'd rather avoid cynical networking with people based on their ability to get your name out but it's another way to force yourself into success.

Basically I just think that you shouldn't be spending your time on commissions unless it is financially worth your time. You would be better off spending 8 hours learning a skill with future earning potential like animation or game dev like I said above than doing a $10 commission. Time is money.
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>>6066883
you’re doing it ass backwards, you don’t supplement commissions with contract work
and your economy is kindergarten tier, whether you can get 5 $50 commissions has zero bearing on whether you can get a $600 or whatever amount gig, your ability to fulfil a client demand is an entirely different factor to whether you can attract thousands of people with a steady demand for shitty character art
you 100% don’t earn a living with art
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>>6066917
There's more contract work than just fulltime studio gigs, which is probably what you are thinking of. If you can get a fulltime gig then yeah, don't need commissions.
The commissions are absolutely a starting point and the goal is to not even have to do commissions.

I know people working fulltime for animation studios for netflix that do paid commissions so I reject your premise that they are incompatible.
>your ability to fulfil a client demand is an entirely different factor to whether you can attract thousands of people with a steady demand for shitty character art
You are just inserting weird assumptions on the quality and the quantity of people needed to get commissions.
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>>6066932
no, I was not referring to in house work, but to the non kiddie pool commissions, I don’t know how $600 made you think of in house work
no, I am stating facts about the demand side of the equation
do you even do commissions regularly? or at all
this is some armchair shit
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>>6066947
Contract work is not commissions. Commissions are commissions.
I have no experience with any commission over $100 so cannot comment. I am only talking about starting out and going from 0 art related income to paying your rent with art.
It's supposed to be speculative and I didn't imply otherwise.
Happy to see alternative suggestions rather than implications and insults.
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>>6066973
commissions is what contract work was called before the word became synonymous with porn
it literally means making something for a customer
the sistine chapel was a commission
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>>6067013
To me commission is where the art is the end product and there's no context beyond that while contract work is coming in to make art as a small part of an overall project/product/media etc. Usually you are dealing with an art director and a company under contract instead of a single person.
I recognise that you can (and should) have a contract when commissioning though. Usually just emails are enough though compared to a more formal legal document with a company.
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>>6066467
$0.00
>>6066502
$0.00 for both
>>6066554
$0.00
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>>6067361
Okay this I'd give $0.50 for it
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>>6066765
I’d probably put a well done Kirby around the same price of a typical anime headshot
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>>6061768
>>6062816

thank you for the advice kind anons
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>>6056746
5-15: no coloring so gonna have to dock points
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>>6057859
It doesn't, and in a way I hate doing it. Still in this cyberpunk world (and when I say cyberpunk I mean it: mass surveillance, propaganda networks, divide between poors and rich increasing) you got to do what you got to do.
Not only that, it's propaganda to not flip houses. Who benefits if middle class Americans don't flip houses? Ah yes, https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/02/business/family-homes-wall-street/index.html, the banks.
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>>6058246
Art is definitely a skill that could make you rich or poor. I, as a musicfag who made albums and plays piano and guitar, recognize that art is more versatile and marketable than music. You can just rip off royalty free music: you can't flip assets (at least, for characters. You can probably do it for environment)
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>>6065719
anon, any update on this? i'm curious
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>>6067368
I got 120 USD for that lol
I was actually thinking of upping my prices because people paying without negotiating it down
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>>6068159
>I got 120 USD for that lol
What the fuck. I need to revaluate how soon I can take commissions.
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>>6068164
Yeah Idk why people pop out this "Oh 50 dollars 25 dollars lol!" on /ic/. Its retarded. Unless you drawing boring generic anime moe blob (i.e oversaturated market) you can easily charge around 100 usd if u got a mediocre amount of skill.
As long as you nail the "coomer appeal " in your work you will get comms and can charge an alright amount.
Used to think my work was only worth Max 50-60USD until I started to try comms

This one was 100 USD before I hiked my prices. I get dm'd about comms every 2-3 days
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>>6068177
not him, but I checked your twitter and holy shit, that’s low effort garbage
I mean no offence, good on you and everything, I just can’t believe people are willing to pay more than $30 for that
just don’t get complacent and stuck at that level
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>>6068177
Thanks this is actually pretty motivating. God speed shortstack anon.
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>>6068183
You need to improve your self esteem. Your art in the eyes of those who dont draw is worth way more then you think. 100 usd isnt even a lot in this market, Most of the guys Im friends with charge from 300-500 USD sometimes. It can get pretty crazy. Of course those guys have been drawing for nearly a decade and I've only been drawing for a year and half over or so. But In time Ill get to their level.

Also you can check my work from a few months back, my main priority is always improving.

This is from May 13,2021, basically a year ago

>>6068185
Thanks dude, just keep drawing
>Draw, Antonio; draw, Antonio; draw and don't waste time.
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I get paid $46 an hour.
Private clients pay more than studios
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>>6068190
just to reiterate because I know what the board is like, I’m not trying to shit on you, I’m genuinely impressed you’re pulling those rates
I guess spending so much time on 4chan muddled my view of the average consumer
good luck, anon
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>>6068199
draw draw draw
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>>6067361
she can clearly fit through
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>>6068177
what was the commission for this art? and do you share in-process with the client?
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>>6068406
He just wanted his character drawn in a running/action pose. I do a rough sketch, if they like how its going I get them to pay, and polish it up. Once the sketch is done I dont update them till the piece is done. I can show you the pics I sent to the guy
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>>6068431
Thanks for answering.
Is this typical on how it goes in your experience? do they argue over a sketch/final or do they accept any result without a question?
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>>6068451
Theyre generally happy the first time with how it is. Just might be little things like "dont forget to add this detail" or "make her thicker/boobs bigger" or the like.
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>>6068463
the more i learn about it the more i think making personal coomer coms is the easiest job for an artist in terms of making money
One last question: whats your payment procedure, do you split it 50/50 mid-final or do you take 100% after the sketch? and have you ever been conned in terms of not receiving the pay for your work?
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But for you, my friend, 30 bucks.
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>>6068490
I do a rough sketch to get an idea down, something in like 10-15 minutes. Then if they like it so far, I ask them to pay in full 100%. Never had an issue before. My logic is if they refuse I only lost like 15 minutes of time

Coom is EASILY the easiest way to make money. Lots of lonely guys with Tech jobs out there who want porn comms. Everything can be profitable in art desu, just porn is the easiest.
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>>6068502
Thanks again for answering.
im starting to learn how to draw characters, so far ive only done "studies" from photos, need to do some boring anatomy so i could do OC's from head.
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Only sold a couple things in my life. Curious
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>>6056758
this is dope anon $80
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>>6068515
this is really nice work, i can imagine a lot of cool stylized scenes with nice colors in this style. id pay upwards of $100 for a detailed scene
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>>6068515
based Moebius anon
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>>6068587
Thank you! I ony wish I were cleaner/more precise. I think some of my visual elements are a little too abstracted which can be a kind of cop out. I want to understand more industrial design, engineering, etc so I can put more rational objects in my work but still maintain the overall aesthetic. Some of level of abstraction I think is nice, but I want it all to really feel real. Hope that makes sense
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>>6068612
i get it, it makes sense, i struggle with the same thing, i did the cyber harley above and none of her 'gear' or accessories even make any technical sense lmfao. its just a bunch of shapes with blue lines to give the illusion of some relatively complex tech.
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not sure if my character drawings are good enough to be sold at a decent price
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>>6068063
She just sent me photos of herself last night, and she is very attractive :^). It turns out she's a mom too, which is pretty cool.

I ended up charging her $65. I feel like I could have charged a little more, but I'll have fun drawing this so it's okay. I guess I lowballed myself to draw a cute girl after all, but oh well, I can charge more on my next commission!!

I probably won't post the drawing on 4chan or say more about it here to protect her privacy, so this will be my last update on it. u_u7
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>>6070300
you should sell it for $0.00
I think that would be a fair price
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>>6070651
damn ok can i get some feedback on why that is lol
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>>6070884
He's a regular here because it's his tragic character arc. See: >>6057085
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>>6070916
lmfao
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>>6065121
I mostry draw animals.
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>>6070884
Bro just look at her face and hands
also the zombies right foot/ leg
everything needs some loomis
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>>6070930
Not bad I'd pay let's say $0.00
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>>6070938
YOU MOTHERFUCKER! OPEN THAT WALLET, RIGHT NOW! YOU AIN'T PAYING LESS THAN 100 USD! LOOK AT THE COLORS! LOOK AT THE DESIGN" YOU CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND WHAT IS HAPPENING, CAN YOU, MR. FAGGOT?? STINKY!!
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>>6056739
Yeah I popped in here out of curiosity but realised immediately if we assume everyone here is artists what they'll be saying is what they'd try to charge, not what they'd pay. And looking at the posts it looks like mostly a mix of circlejerking, whining about how normies appraise art and obvious (yet bafflingly successful) trolls, so about what I'd expect.

>>6056758
>WHA
A man of culture.
>no Best Girl Agott
But not that much culture.

>>6064659
My philosophy (per my response at the top of the post) wouldn't be to ask anons on a board that is almost 100% either artists or people who come here exclusively to fuck with artists what they'd pay, but to price it according to how long it takes you to produce and how much you value your own labour/time. Something like that would probably take me about an hour, two if I was "multitasking," but a few years ago it would've taken about 3, and I know some people say they spend 8 on similar work. If you can't decide, start from how much you work for at your day job (most recent if you're unemployed) and figure it out from there.

Of course if you intend to make a livelihood based on art that's another story, because it becomes not about how many hours of work you put into each piece, but how many commissions you get a month versus how much you need to make each month to live. In that case the wise man would also stream the process on Twitch and shit like that to squeeze out as much profit from their work as possible.
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>>6071002
Artist here. Is it really worth that much?
I drew this creature back in april for the spec evo project Multituberculate Earth. You can read it here and reach me on my instagram. I don't charge that much money. I
https://multituberculateearth.wordpress.com/2022/03/30/flying-mammals/
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>>6066026
Doc, I don't think this is my usual prescription.
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>>6056777
pretty awesome anon, love the linework
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>>6070937
nice, that's more like it

maybe start off with actual feedback like this and not just go "i'd pay 0" on everything you see lmao
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>>6071193
maybe flip the image before pretending it’s not all kinds of fucked up
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>>6071195
see you can do it
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>>6071196
do what, retard? I’m not the 0 spammer, I’m calling you a retard
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>>6071002
lol fine I'll change my price to -$50.00
just for you anon
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>>6071042
No its really not anon
Its not bad but not really worth anything either
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>>6071193
Anon this is a price check thread
now I'm happy to give feed back to anyone whom requests it but the main point is to evaluate the monetary compensation for the piece
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>>6056736
I'm curious. What would you guys pay for a copy? It makes sense to me that if someone really likes an image. That they would want more of the same right? Or a slightly different face?
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>>6071042
>link
That's pretty cool ngl, bookmarked.
I like >>6070930 but not $100 like, more like $30. Reminds me a bit of those children book illustrations for some reason.
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>>6071669
If I liked an image I would tell you I wanted something like that, but not an exact copy or traceover of it, more like you taking the pose, colors or whatever and coming up with your own interpretation of them.
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>>6056746
$40
>>6056752
$50 for an original
>>6056758
$50
>>6056777
$100 for an original
>>6056793
>>6057097
$50>>6057412
Too much fetish for me but not bad work. >>6057699
For unfinished work $20
>>6057703
$40
>>6058477
$100
>>6059884
$20
>>6059977
$30
>>6062747
$100
>>6065848
$70
>>6066554
$50
>>6068515
$100
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>>6071669
why would anyone pay to have a worse copy of something they already have?
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>>6071719
That's why I'm asking you? Maybe they can't draw it themselves.
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>>6071896
what does that matter, the picture already exists
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>>6071902
Maybe they want to edit it. I don't know.
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>>6064659
>>6065121
50 bucks, I don’t like Color any more than black and white
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>>6065947
Sfw 30 bucks, gimme cunny and 50
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>>6071712
ty sir
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>>6071905
then they’d pay* for an edit, not a shitty copy

*by pay I mean spam a request in a drawthread and get it for free
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>>6071669
As it is now, not a penny, if it were another character in that pose or something, I could see normies paying for that, I’ve seen quite copied pictures like this the fucker who copied the elevator one deleted the tweet, and another one that copied the measure tape one too, would find more examples many more, but I made my point, from me you would just get pity
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>>6071996
>>6071669
Found it, you get my point, you can kinda do this
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>>6071996
>add for blush
disgusting
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>>6072001
>>6071996
>>6071669
This one too, fun fact, as I said ALL of this pieces or even accounts have been deleted after being called out (I called them out and enjoyed normies killing them I don’t really care personally I just hate people) so you can do it, yes, at your own risk and you shouldn’t ask other artist if they would pay you for a worse version of an almost identical artwork, the answer is obvious, but normies would, the thot I confronted this with this one said that the client specifically said he wanted this but with other characters, I doubt it, but I’m just giving the info
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>>6071960
but some artist don't frequent the drawthreads anymore. those requests have been up there for years. anon-kun(๑´^`๑)
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>>6071996
>>6072001
>>6072025
but anon, those don't look like my Japanese anime's. i don't want those.
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>>6071996
>>6072001
>>6072025
These are obvious cases of pictures you know about but you can safely assume that a very good chunk of active artists only trace work from others and even make good money with it.
The safest work to trace is from unknown artists and even safer is if you have a lot of followers and trace the picture but render it better.
Those cases are pictures that have been redone worse, so of course normies would get mad but if you inverted the situation it would go something like this
>"Oh, those aren't traced, they're referenced and it looks better so no harm has been done because i like them better than the bad ones."
Now imagine all the works you don't actually know the origin from, origin meaning:
>influences and references that has led to the creation of the image
For all you'd know, those better pictures might have been traced as well but unless you find the original picture, you'll never know.

Anyways, there is really no morality or respect in the arts by neither artist and consumers. Normies don't give a shit about art thiefs; especially if the thief decorates the cake better.
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People from /aco/ should comment in threads like this. Too bad the commission thread was banned from that board.
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>>6056736
idk





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