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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

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>>6084487
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is this achievable natty?
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>>6107307
How do you guys commit to a character design?
Sometimes it’ll click right away for me, then othet times I struggle on a decision because nothing feels right (ie can’t decide on a hairstyle, or general wardrobe).
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>>6107307
How to I get lines like these on clip studio paint? Which brush should I use?
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are there any western artists who can accurately replicate japanese style? you can always tell when its a western artist drawing anime
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>>6107430
google, you dumbass. Legit go onto clip store and look. ffs
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>>6107437
Eudetenis
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>>6107437
what about asian americans or mixed people, where they fall onto that tard scale of yours
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>>6107443
looks accurate pretty sure its a troon though so thats a shame
>>6107449
quit seething you know what i mean bitch
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>>6107451
Unless you going to give me a full on explanation, you're just coping at this point. I bet your some white guy who wishes he was born asian. But in reality you're just a lazy fuck face who cries on ic about western and eastern art differences. You wanna know how Asians are different? They don't give a shit about your race or culture. They like your work they say nice and move on. No one is fucking obsessed with race of an artist. You're just lazy and temperature iq.
I don't need to seethe I'm already asian.
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>>6107437
what is "japanese style"?
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>>6107484
i dont even know what youre seething about lmao
>>6107491
all i meant was you can usually tell when a western artist draws anime
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>>6107496
youre blabbering about the most worthless shit man. what result would you get from this?? are you a "westoid" is that why?
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>>6107311
just drink the asian gene shakes
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>>6107496
he's white, don't listen to him.
Go find your local japanese guy and ask him.
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>>6107437
Russians count? They are both western and asian and combine best of both worlds, but you wouldn't tell because they are closeted.
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>>6107880
OP won't give a full explaination they are room temp IQ. I asked about happas or people who are asian that live in west. Even people who are western living in the east. None of which OP wants to explain because it's just low Q mindset.
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Word of advice and Pro life tip:
If someone cannot give you a full explanation of their point of view or answer basic questions. It means they are not very smart and just rehashing someone else who is smarter's opinion.

There is no "haha, I can give my shitty takes and tell anyone who questions it they are seething." There is just they are stupid and that is it. If you question a mindset or belief and are met with a hostile response, those people don't understand the subject at hand and are talking out of their asses. They want you just to take their word for it.

You can apply this mindset to any ic post or twitter post. If you ask questions, a decent person can answer instead of getting defensive and doing what they are accusing other people of doing.
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eyes are hard. need tips. thx
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What's the best japanese book in the mega for learning proportions and just how to draw heads (female particularly)?
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>>6108524
Draw a box.
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>>6107950
Study the eye anatomy, not so you can draw eyes realistically but so you can understand each component of the "eye" and so you became able to abstract each component in to a simplified shape that still has cohesion and form of how a eye "works". What you are doing right now is what most people (if they are not retarded) would call symbol drawing, you are just drawing how you see and how you think anime eyes look without thinking or trying to understand the forms and shapes they have and why they are the way they are. You need to understand reality first before you transform it. I did a pretty shitty example of how I visualized and changed a more realistically shaped eye and each component to something close to what I imagine you want.

I think you want to do something closer to 2000's anime style, those are a lot more inclined to use angular and geometrical shapes than the modern soft and more realistic ones anime adopted, you probably also want to study some basics of shape design to understand how and why the eyes and shapes work the way the work for expressions and character design.
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any idea if this is a public brushpack? i cannot read chinese
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>>6108699
that's more of a big jawline than a sharp cheek
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>6108699
so....fucking.....smug.....
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bros where should i start learning if i want to stick to pure linework shit and not work with colors in the near future?
most of the courses i see posted here all get into color theory and digital painting almost immediately but i want to stick to raw drawing skill mostly, becoming able to freehand complex stuff like mangakas
pic very much related, Ackybright
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What is with all these deleted posts?
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>>6108969
sorry im drunk and fucked up twice on my post above yours, pls refresh
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>>6108699
thank you, i'll study the eye more
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>>6108967
any linework course will do
they're just about the same things like line hierarchy, focus, distance,...
also practice with values more
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>>6108967
pen and ink by guptill.
that's literally what boichi studied
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>>6108994
>any linework course will do
any recs on any of those?
>pen and ink by guptill.
niiice, is it this one on amazon?
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Are there certain proportions to drawing anime heads? Or should I just figure it out by using and modifying a typical head drawing method?
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>>6108967
watch mangaka on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/c/CapedBaldy1/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/yoshikadu
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I have no idea what to add to its head to make it look less boring.
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>>6109395
Not related but you're falling victim to the body narrowing as you go down problem
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>>6107307
I don't draw anime anymore but every new moon i do try it every so often, How passable is this anime face. Looks good or not worth it?
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>>6109981
skull too small, as a rule of thumb the top of the eye should be the middle point in the head from a front view, this obviously depends of the style but for the avergae animu head is good enough
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Finished this
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>>6108827
good
>>6110549
looks clean and acceptable, I would say its missing some highlights and light reflecting from the clothes into the skin, from the hair into the skin, from the skin into everything else
just in my personal preference I would give the lines a bit of color instead of leaving them 100% black
anyways, good work anon
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>>6108827
is there any playlist with all the krenz subbed videos that can actually be followed through? would love that shit
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Can someone with a better understanding of art and animation than me please explain to me why the faux anime style (think Netflix shit or Korra) is so bland/off-putting?
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>>6110814
They are low budget productions done by teams of inexperienced/overstretched/underpaid staff (just corporate-capitalist stuff in general) with the majority of the animation "legwork" outsourced to Korean animation studios. Do not get me wrong those Korean animation studios are good but if the fundamentals are bad then the frame to frame animation will not make up for it.

Netflix at the core is just a streaming platform that is desperately experimenting with trying to produce their own material to validate themselves and to have fresh material on their platform that requires less royalty payment for other IP owners thus more income to Netflix. It doesn't matter if it is shit, the point is that they have SOMETHING to keep the subscribers on board.
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>>6110114
do you have any tips for the other views?
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they sent me here
can i start drawing anime now
how do i start drawing anime
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>>6110814
we like anime because its bold
netflix likes anime because its marketable

that philosophy is what builds the difference in styles
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>>6110913
these are 10 minutes btw
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What is the thought process put into learning how to draw and render hair? I'm finding it extremely hard to understand.
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>>6110114
thank you
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>>6107430
turn off anti aliasing on brush
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>>6110913
>they
who? are you a crossboarder? they look referenced, theres tons of inconsistency. you need to post your anime drawing not a fundie study if you want a honest answer.
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Can anyone recommend good skin color pencils?
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Sketch
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best anime head/eyes tutorial out there atm? there has to be thousands of resources right now and im fucking overwhelmed by the options, which one is the legit best one?
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>>6112023
beg
they're 10 minute figure drawings
i wonder what's my next step
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>>6112023
>>6112268
is it wrong they're referenced? what inconsistencies do you mean?
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>>6112148
there is no single best tutorial since everyone learns differently
most people will just teach you loomis or some variation of it. find a decent tutorial, grind and practice until it sticks
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>>6112304
its like you might as well haven't even commented
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>>6112304
attention-kun...
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>>6112148
look stuff up in japanese
translate articles into english like this one https://oekaki-zukan.com/articles/1397

from my own findings, eye positioning is arguably more important than even eye size
start your eyes with just the iris and lashes like pic related, then add more details as you wish
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>>6112148
Loomis san
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Are there any good resources for bases like pic related to practice drawing hair and facial expressions?
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>>6112363
it bothers me when the eyes are that close together.
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>>6112363
MUCH appreciated fren
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>>6112425
heh that was fun to try
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>>6112392
try really hard on making your own
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>>6112476
woah great advice
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>>6107307
trying new material
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>>6112268
>>6112289
if what you want to draw is anime then technically this would be place for you to post, if you already grinded your fundies on beg that is, as why do i ask if the sketchs are referenced is because you need to be able to have a medium-high 3D spatial sense, being able to see in 3D is key if you want to deconstruct which is what you need if you want to learn to draw anime, if they aren't you might need to grind a little more, but if they are then is to soon to start stylizing without your drawings look like garbage because your current level is not there yet if this what you can do with refs. the inconsistency i mentioned was in some of your sketchs you put more details than others like the girl on the top right, the torso and right arm have no form unlike the girl on the bottom right, half of the poses you drew are really stiff, it looks more like you are practicing gesture and just adding details from the refs because some are more poorly drawn than others.
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>>6112493
I suppose some poses im just worse or got lazier at
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>>6112490
you gave up on the bg isnt? kek, but still looks good, the hanging arm looks unnaturally tisff, and the right leg looks broken to me, and if it isnt is a really akward way to stand maybe putting the more in front of the other would look more natural, i would suggest to make her hands more uhhh busy? is kinda boring also if you lift the left a bit theres more view of her tummy and thats always a plus, also you could make her look at the viewer for more connection feel
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>>6112511
>>6112493
https://imgur.com/a/lIwjUOn
these are from the last month if you care to scroll through
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>>6112538
if you are going to draw anime you need to be kinda good at deconstructing, thats why i said that being able to see things in 3D is important, anime isn't a single style so you will never find a ''how to'' that will work for everything it will be mostly basics like loomis variants type of things, so you will need to be able to deconstruct anything to be able to recreate it from zero, completely different from just copying, to make it short if you can draw something like this pic and be able to turn it at any angle with no problem you are more than ready, just pick your style, collect tons of refs ,deconstruc it and draw it againg from different angles if possible and compare if it looks like the source, thats basically all.
the works in your link desu look really beg in the sense that they look lazy and half assed, i don't think it would be a good idea to jump into styliization right now , you don't seem to have the basics down yet so if you post cringe you are more likely to be told roomis or some shit like that mostly because nobody wants to parrot the same shit tha has been told millions of times to beginners like im doing now, just so you klnow.
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>>6112538
>>6110913
Like just draw. I get what the other guy was trying to say but honestly your sketches don't look super beg as in with no understanding at all of the fundies. And he's trying to tell you to get to int level before stylization. To each their own but I think you shouldn’t bother, just draw what you want and study on the side. Draw lots of anime if you want but also study from real refs is what I mean, that way you will know how to improve your anime art as you go. Honestly I think you're already better than a lot of anons in this general already
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>>6112641
i understand perspective, and i understand 3d form at least on a conceptional level
i'm just not sure how to really improve my current understanding of deconstruction

i guess i should be just practicing drawing bodies from imagination
but im not usually sure if those end up good enough or not. or really how to really practice that in a efficient way
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>>6112447
thumbnail on phone looks interesting
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>>6110549
Honestly the soft vibes of the original sketch were more appealing. I feel the more artificial/cel approach took away from the final product.
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>>6107307
Serious question, how easy is it to sell something like this? Or is this just a portfolio piece and you're still forced to do emote and porn commissions, if not slaving over some shitty comic for minimum wage flat out?
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>>6113057
A little manipulation can get you so far
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am i learning yet. trying to think of the eye as a 3d form helps a bit. i have to practice more.
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>>6113089
My grandma showed me that. She could go to any young tourist guy in the street asking to be helped to to walk up the stairs, then offer to pay him a money reward, give him a large bill, then ask him to change it for her, and by the end she'd walk up with more money than she gave him. She did it 3 times in a row.

That said, it has nothing to do with art. I'm asking about a straightforward transaction. Op's pic shows some clear skill. I'm asking if that's an easy sell or you're still reduced to conman tricks vs minimum wage.
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>>6113129
not him, but i'd subscribe to anybody that draws my fetish stuff
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>>6112118
At your level I always used Amazon Basics Colored Pencils. They are very cheap and only look marginally duller than prismacolors or fabercastells. They are also firm so they dont break off when you are sharpening them, and are easier to make look smooth than crayola or craZart pencils.
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does anybody have a torrent/mega/Mediafire link to this course?
https://gfx-hub.cc/tutorials/drawing-painting-tuts/83601-manga-module-1-drawing-basic-human-body.html
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>>6112664
>I'm just not sure how to really improve my current understanding of deconstruction
Jack Hamm and Morpho are pretty useful in that regard I think
not anime but this book might help you
https://www.mediafire.com/file/r82vm132kapm3eg/Anatomy_for_Artists_Drawing_Form_%2526_Pose_The_ultimate_guide_to_drawing_anatomy_in_perspective_and_pose_with_tomfoxdraws.pdf/file
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>>6113554
>Amazon Basics
I don't think you're a troll but this is a little suspicious
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>>6107307
Trying to do hair and coloring by copying some stuff I like, but I am stuck on the hair and was wondering if someone could do me a favor and help break it down/post a tutorial for something like this. I haven't found any real videos or anything by Kagami on hair to follow so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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a crappy doodle for dd2 announcement
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>>6113100
some few mistakes, the face overall looks chonkier on her left side and on the right that curvature to diagonal line starts too high is as if she has no cheek on that side, mouth is a bit higher, usually is in the middle from the end part of the nose to the chin, eyebrows are too close eachother and that arm is too big, her eyes are looking nowhere too and you could give more volume to her hair like in the ref, also no ears?
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>>6113969
https://exhentai.org/s/5b4aa9a7a8/479495-210
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hi,drew this and for now looks okayish but i dont think it looks cute and idk if it is anime enough
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>>6114381
It looks anime and looks cute
Nice job
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>>6114381
hi any tips on how to draw eyes?
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>>6114385
Thanks anon
>>6114399
Uhm... i think you need to learn the anatomy of the eye then play around with the elements or shapes( omitting details or changing sizes) without breaking the general construction till it looks good enough for you.
Or just copy the shapes of the eyes of your favorite drawing style keeping in mind the anatomy or form
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>>6114437
will keep that in mind
thanks
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>>6114381
Anime enough. Ears and neck are weird though.
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I want to get faster at drawing so I tried starting and finishing something in one go. It’s not my favourite thing I’ve made but I’m pretty happy that I was able to do it in one sitting. Usually I take a few days on drawings
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>>6114450
Damn, i thought you where just posting some official artwork to use as ref or something
Amazing job, got a blog?
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I've been doing these copies of shading and stuff, mechanically I'm able to make it look okayish and kinda faithful to the original, pic related, lineart isnt mine
but I just cant get how to render clothes in my mind, even if I stop to look how and why some part is shaded or not, I can stop feeling like I'm just mindlessly copying, I'm not getting better or understanding how to render clothes
how to do the deliberate practice thing on this topic?
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>>6113100
i think i know what the style is based on
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>>6114226
Dang, thanks man. I'll use this knowledge for a potential commission. The eyes have always been a constant problem for me. But I'll try what you show here.
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>>6114343
Wow, thanks so much for finding that anon. I wish there were some streams of his to watch, Kagami is so good. Will test this out this week and see how it all goes, thanks again.
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>>6112490
I know this is probably not something you gave even two seconds of thought to while making this, but thank you for doing a halfway decent job on the high heels.
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hey guys i posted this in a non asg thread so might as well try here, can anyone help me de-constructing this Rukia head into a Loomis or related skull to learn how to do it myself?
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>>6114226
me again, drawing this for a friend. any tips for eyes and eyebrows? or anything that i missed. thx
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>>6115217
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>>6115219
a bit too far, but thats about it
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>>6115219
i don't understand this anime logic. is there a guide for this. or is it a perspective thing.?
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>>6115157
you still need the front, side and some 3/4 views from above and below
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>>6115265
there's no way to redline it as it is or anything? i don't get what you mean by needing the other views
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>>6115270
>needing the other views
and how the fuck are you supposed to have a 3D representantion of a whole head with only one side of the head
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>>6115276
isnt that precisely why the loomis method was invented in the first place? to have a guideline that allows you to invent any kind of 3d head position without using a 3d model or references but using spheres and lines instead?
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>>6115274
What loomis does to a person, yikes
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>>6115280
yeah but you are not deconstructing here the loomis head genius, you are trying to break down Kubos style of the head, you cant have a proper breakdown by only using one side view, for instance you can't tell whats the distance between the eyes, how wide is the nose bridge and such, if you relay on loomis to fill these gaps you are gonna end up with a fucking loomis head rather than kubos style, isn't that obvious.
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>>6115274
holy fuck this is the design doll scullk
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>>6115274
thanks, i'll recheck my guidelines
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>>6115283
not all loomers
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>>6115287
i tried
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>>6115404
lol, do whatever man.
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>>6115404
I tried for you too anon, trying is very important. I find drawing the corners of the eye sockets helps a lot
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>>6115437
woah that looks so much better specially the orientation ty anon
is it normal for the hair and accessories to be outside of the biggest circle like that? i assume my error was to treat the top hair as part of the construction hmm
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>>6115450
I made the circle a bit too small but hair does sit on top outside the circle a a little but it varies on the hairstyle, angle and as well as the artist's stylization choices. Rukia looks like she has really poofy hair there for example
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>>6115437
Here is an epic fail from me.
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>>6115520
This time I tried copying what you have going on there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OzWhJxo-FM
anyone else watching
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>>6115540
>guweiz
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>>6115157
i had a little bit of fun with this one beacuse i haven't done this in a while(my drawings were pretty fucking bad and sttoped doing head constructions)
and doing this again raised many questions in the process like how does one approach construction methods of the head, does one use it just to get a sense of space or is it an almost accurate perspective grid?
im asking because i dont know where the front plane is in the space,maybe in front of the eyes?,maybe nose bridge?
also i remember some head construction tutorials intersecting the center line of the front plane with the end of the chin so i guess the front plane intersects the chin?
anyway this is what i got with my current level and honestly i dont know if its right, any help from a construction/perspective anon will be highly appreciated
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>>6115561
i wouldnt ovethink about it, Kubo is an oldschool mangaka that literally free hands all his shit so not everything he puts out is perfectly aligned or proportioned, he's just done it so many times that it's second nature to him AND it ends up looking perfect in its imperfection
proof he freehands and it doesnt matter even with fast sketches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0caNV7i6Yg8
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>>6115599
shit's easy if ur just drawing portraits. No wonder he stopped doing backgrounds
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>>6115608
he was ahead of his time, if he had kept the OG mangaka work "ethic" he'd have worked himself to death for sure
not to mention his "successors" nowadays do even more simplified drawings nowadays and still sell a metric fuck ton
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>>6115599
Still worse than Vilppu and kjg
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I am a little scared I will feel like I am tainting the original when making an ugly ass copy. Is there a way around this or must I take the risk of ruining the artists I like?
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>>6115663
>he doesnt know all his fav artists started out making shitty copies of their fav artist
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>>6115676
So there is no way around it. I see.
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>>6115679
just promise urself u'll one day make a good copy and keep going
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>>6115693
I will. One copy at a time.
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>>6115693
But really can't I start by copying artists I care less for and do stuff I am more fond of a little later when I at least know how to draw a circle?
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>>6115709
If you don't do it now you will never do it
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>>6115540
holy FUCK after watching his stream i realized how fucking easy it is to just trace some random bitch on the internet (or 3d model) and autismo away with the whole lighting and coloring and rendering
like going from his timeline alone actual DRAWING is only 1/16 of his work, the rest is applied painting on his expensive tablet
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>>6114882
tks for the feedback
>>6112528
tks will need to improve pose
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>>6115540
Where can I find the other links?
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>>6115828
yeah he is a painter
I see even hard clean line anime artist when go full render still take way way more time to render
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>>6115886
i guess he isnt the guy i should be watching, i want to be a linework freak instead, all hand done
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>>6114450
Gmi
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>>6115828
>tracing is easy
holy FUCK nothing is easy, retard unless you did 100 bargue plates going full autismo.
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guess it was an inevitability I'd end up here when I started browsing ic again lol

some inspired practice. done with a mouse.. I think it's actually easier for me bc I don't have to worry about my wrist so much.
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>>6107307
I'm having issues with the perspective drawing the face from below.
The face looks a bit flat.
What kind of study approach should I take for studying anime faces from a lower angle?

Thanks in advance and I wish everyone reading this a great day if their spirit is kind! :^)
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>>6116814
References for my post.

May the spirits be with you friends! :^D
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thought i would post my screenshots for ref
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>>6116975
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>>6116077
>done with a mouse.. I think it's actually easier for me bc I don't have to worry about my wrist so much.

hmmm drawing with a mouse is a good way to develop issues like carpal tunnel and tendinitis anon exactly because of how you move your wrist
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>>6117069
you don't have to move your wrist when you use a mouse though
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>>6113129
I don't understand. How?
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>>6117101
are you asking how do you sell that art?
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>>6117103
I'm the guy he's replying to and i still want to know how easy it is to sell. I looked up the artist and it's that illustrator and animator for Trigger. She's sent to represent Japan at an art expo in London, so her shit must sell. But i wonder if skill alone can sell OP's pic.

As for the the guy replying to me in >>6117101
i assume he wants to know how my grandma did it. It's a simple trick of having the guy change the larger bill, then ask him to keep most of the change anyway, then say she is getting confused that she is old and needs to buy medicine for her pain. Then she picks the bills from the guy's hand and makes him look her in the eyes while she says he can still keep the extra and start saying "thank you thank you thank you". It's really in how you speak and look and the whole elderly person - guy dynamic where they often walk away feeling happy, realize she took more money than she gave, but feeling too bad and awkward to go back and tell granny to give the money back. It's a skill, but nothing to do with art skill.
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Who are some good anime artists to learn anatomy from? As in their artstyle helps visualize the parts?
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>>6117315
baki manga is like hogarth for weebs
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how does he do it bros.....
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>>6117425
CSP 3D model tracing
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>>6117428

so I have to learn 3d figure modeling? It's over boyo
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>>6117435
no lol he's just a lazy and emotional fuck, all the mangakas from his generation draw enough to have perspective and anatomy memorized to a T, there's no need for 3d models if you can freehand anything you want
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>>6117344
Not to crab but the prospect of someone learning anatomy from Baki terrifies me
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>>6117428
>two headshots
>tracing
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>>6117428
the emphasis here is on the expressions, how are 3d dolls relevant

...right, right just to crab... got it
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You wake up tomorrow capable of drawing at the level you've always dreamed of. What will you draw?
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>>6117560
The level I dream of is the level I've earned. I will draw the same.
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>>6117560
since my inspiration list is full of Touhou artists, I will continue the tradition
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>>6112528
You are interpreting it wrong, a leg can do a rotation for the foot to look like that, it's just that a woman's fat would make the rotation in the thigh look seamless.
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>>6117490
Did you never try drawing before? Small angle variations for the head are not hard to draw, but need to be practiced individually if you want them to look good. Doing the prez head looking up is made far, easier and faster if you trace the properly foreshortened skull and then just manipulate the eye angle until it looks good. Not saying it's good or bad, just stating a fact.
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>>6117881
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Any idea what brush I could use to achieve similar lineart?
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>>6118185
round pressure opacity
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does anyone know any good brushes on Clip Studio Paint that cost clippy?

they gave out 2000 clippy for free to buy stuff, and i cant find shit thats worth it.
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Kinda curious if i'm the only retard switching styles like daily
It seems that most people just stick to something and push it from start to finish
Like literally
One day i would draw some semi realistic shit like riot splash art next day i will do terada style sketches and then i'll go draw anime girl
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>>6117999
Thx bro
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>>6118255
nothing is
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I usually draw rounded faces. Is it acceptable or I should learn to draw angular faces like the most of anime artists because people like to see angular faces?
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>>6118236
Actually seems to be it.
I really need to learn to draw in photoshop it always seems to be the solution when I ask this kind of stuff.

Quick secondary question, what's the best way to blur in PS? Since it seems to use your brushes to blur it's confusing me a little.
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>>6107437
people keep asking this and it always get replied with tim loeckner

Just go draw animoo already
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>>6107437
NSIO
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How tf do I improve my coloring? I don't want a "clean" cel-shading style, I want a rough painterly look. Any good resources?
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>>6118449
>Is it acceptable
Why are you asking permission for art?
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I studied some animation, what do you think?
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>>6118834
>that posing
>those proportions
>that gesture
>THAT GESTURE
kino + based + saved + blog + I KNEEL
>8, 9, 10
You mean there's MORE?! Post them, anon!
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>>6118907
you forgot: 2015
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>>6118888
Where are her Twintails? Do not disappoint me.
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>>6118954
Sorry Anon, that's not part of her design, but thank you, I'll keep that preference in mind.
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>>6118907
da/NSIO
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>>6118834
absolutely not
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>>6118449
I want to be loved by everyone on Pixiv but I can't if I draw not something that all like. I noticed that angular face style with sharp chin and cheeks is common when rounded one is pretty unpopular and used mostly in chibi caricature pictures and something like that.
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>>6107307
I'm not sure how to use the hard round brush for values practice
Should I only use the brush with 100% opacity and flow and with no pen pressure?
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>>6107307
I'm stuck on this level since forever. I can't seem to improve much from here. Usually after closing a drawing for a bit I can point out some flaws, but often not during. Another annoying thing is that I need to redraw a lot in the process of drawing, causing me to spend ages on something.

Anyone that can give me some guidance?
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>>6119593
>value practice
>only use two values
cmon man
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>>6107307
Who do I copy if I don't have a favorite animu artist?
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>>6119303
Post climax.
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>>6118841
>>6118449
I missed.
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Can I do multiple artists? It doesn't have to be just one artist 100% of the time right?
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i made this, what do you think ? i might add color if i'm motivated enough
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>>6120093
Sinix recommend beginners to simplify with just 2 values
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I am having doubts about my progress and whether I'm suited for art, how long does it usually take to get out of /beg/ phase and be decent?
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>>6120881
post work
It depends on how are you going about, is full study and is the study being done correctly done? but usually the first 1 or 2 years is wasted with close to no gains after that it really comes the progress
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>>6121010
This is around 9 months of progress. There is a mix of study and my own stuff here.
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>>6121039
the difference between your studies and your own work is clear, you are not really retaining a lot of what you are studying, you are trying to incorporate too much without realizing it, your fundies are way too underdeveloped to integrate your studies completely well.
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>>6121062
>the difference between your studies and your own work is clear
What should I be doing to close the gap? Do the study subjects need to be simpler?
>trying to incorporate too much without realizing it
I'm guessing I should break things down and focus on studying individual subjects
>fundies are way too underdeveloped
This is the vaguest part for me, what should I be doing to improve fundies? Went to /beg/ but they just said to keep drawing, so I kept drawing but feeling confused the entire time.
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>>6121071
you are not retaining that well whatever you are trying to implement to your own works, theres tons of differences for a instance look at the blode girl with the ponyt tail, her shading and lights from her hair are not the same from your other works if they werent studies like the red aired girl, you style is inconsistent from cell shading to soft shading to implement different tones of cell shading like in the arms and neck, the bottom girl has the same issues but even more inconsistent in one feet you do hard cell shadings but in the other is soft same in the skirt, it makes the whole shading look off, same with the other ninja girl is almost all soft shading, and this is all not even mentioned the bad source of lighhting and anatomy.
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>>6119593
so I guess 100 opacity and flow is the proper way
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>>6121107
I don't know what to make of all this but if I can try to summarise this up you're telling me I'm NGMI. Where do I even go from here? Would I be better off trying to find a teacher IRL? Or am I going the way of Chris chan and better off doing something else?
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>>6115883
Download some files here:
https://pixiv1.box.com/v/drawfest3-registration-gifts

“Welcome to the Animation Dojo! Mika Pikazo Learns from Hanabushi”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLzYEdELbBQ

“Genshin Impact x Namie - Create Cute Characters and Scenes with a Variety of Colors and Textures!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4muH5UZ6PVg

Don't forget to download the VODs/archives since it will be privated on the 25th
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>>6121039
you need loomis
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>>6121160
You're normal dude you seem like you can make it to me you just can't give up on it and need a lot more practice and go over tutorials multiple times until it sticks
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>>6118185
default hard round brush
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>>6118185
Hard round with precisely adjusted pressure curve. Maybe two hard rounds, one with stronger size-pressure and second with opacity-pressure or flow-pressure (too small pic to notice).
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>>6121160
Keep drawing and getting critiques, fag
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Is this more or less what Krenz meant by copying? Should I maybe finish it up by trying to make it into proper lineart or is it fine this messy? There's many ways to go about copying stuff and I'm not convinced every one is a good idea.
Also I get that this is meant to develop accuracy, sensitivity to line angles and knowledge of attractive shapes, but how do I know when it's time to move on and to what?
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>>6121647
forgot the original
https://exhentai.org/s/3b25ba8588/2155734-63
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>>6121647
depend on where you at
if you're still struggling with accuracy, spending a lot of time polishing line art won't help
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God
Wish I could draw like Great Mosu
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>>6121647
If you want a number, properly do about 100 copies within 3 months and if you’re not a ngmi you should be good to go
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>>6121647
you never move on this is just a part of practice use it when you need to it's like pushups
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>>6118840
Blog?
sorry can't help
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>>6121265
for a doodle looks fun
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>>6122432
Not me, just posting as an example. That's shonocondo.
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Frens, I need some lineart help. My fundies and structure needs work, but I feel like I keep missing the ball on manga-esque lineart. This is something I posted in another thread yesterday and how I currently do it. I do thicker lines for the outlines, thinner on the insides, and shade occlusion areas. But it doesn't seem to match up with stuff I see in manga, and I'm not sure what the difference is.
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>>6122806
You're on a good path, but try copying manga
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>>6122867
How'd you do those screen tones? Is there something you can do in csp for that?
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>>6122868
Yeah, it's csp. https://www.clip-studio.com/site/gd_en/csp/startupguide/csp_startup/CSPaint_04/Chapter04_9_1.htm
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>>6122871
Thank you
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pro anime artist here. 95% of you guys suck ass and are ngmi please stop bringing ugly drawings to the internet thabks.
reminder that if you're not at least half asian or have an iq abovr 135 you CANNOT understand art even if you study 30 years bye
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Done. How did I do?
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>>6122654
ty
I think painting studies and trying to ingrain how light works is your best bet here. This and thinking in shapes.
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>>6123007
there's probably more but this is the one that jumped to me immediately, you gottay try understanding what each line means why it is where it is. you just completely erased her jaw
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>>6122911
>Tells people to stop posting ugly art to the internet
>proceeds to post pedo tier shit
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How do I get consistent with drawing heads and faces? Every time I try one it comes out looking different. I tried drawing 3 heads with diffferent hairstyles and each one looks like a different character. Haven't even tried to change the angle and the problem is already apparent
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>>6123274
the cheek and eyes are different between 3 drawing
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>>6121789
what's stopping you?
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>>6123144
This is kinda sound retarded, but I'm not getting the jump to painting over lineart. As in, I'm used to lowering sketch opacity and coloring over. Whenever I try to just paint over it looks so shit I bring the lineart/sketch back up. I guess I just am struggling to get to clean up part bc it looks so shit at that point.
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>>6121107
I've seen artwork that uses both hard shadows and soft shadows together. Should I give up on trying to do soft shading for the moment and just try doing only cell shading as I attempt to render?
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>>6123313
vague values are things every /beg/ needs to break himself of. soft edges tend to get in the way of that goal.
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>>6107307
I will show you now why I have only 3 fingers
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I find it extremely difficult to draw hair in one stroke from a purely technical standpoint. I can't get my hand to create the line I want to create, it is always bent too much or bent in the wrong part of the length. Are there any hand dexterity exercises I can do to fix this problem?
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>>6107307
>https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw
anymore Examples online of Krenz's blocking method? I can't wrap my stupid brain around it
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>>6123374
drawabox
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>>6114226
Redline anon I like your corrections and command of form. What book did you study from?
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>>6121039
How you were learning?
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>just draw
BUT WHAT? WHAT DO I DRAW
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>>6123848
lolis
draw cute lolis
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>>6123848
>stand in front of mirror, in just underwear or even naked
>analyze how body looks, sketch it on paper
voila
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>>6123848
draw stuff you like
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>>6123848
Draw your ideas when inspired. If you're out of it, do studies; You're never done learning. Apply the skills you're learning from your studies into a piece. Identify your weaknesses and address them. Don't over complicate it, you should never be asking what to draw.
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>>6124178
Just noticed how bad I fucked up the arms' length here
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>>6124178
Did you use a reference anon? You should at this level.
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>>6124242
I do but for the upper part I strayed from it and it shows
The lower part I copied and came out much better
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https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=5471141

Damn lineart takes a long time. Though that's to be expected since it's the first time I'm really doing it, but I'll try to find simpler pictures for now. Despite having to change the face shape a bit to accommodate for the smaller mistakes I made earlier I'm pretty happy how it turned out.

>>6121653
I've recently gotten a bit better so I got cocky but attempting this drawing I screwed the face up and had to improvise. Lesson learned I guess pay more attention to the head early on and maybe even start the lineart with it.
>>6121859
I actually like it, it's something pretty measurable. Though I'm not sure if I can manage that many in 3 months.
>>6121877
Yeah I get that studies are great at any point of mastery but what I meant was moving to making your own shit.
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>>6123807
I just did a mix of things like figure drawing, copying artwork, etc. pretty much standard /beg/ stuff. I've recently been trying to render, it's as the other anon said I don't have a full grasp of fundies so what I extracted from those studies was just how to recreate the brush effects, when I started I didn't even know what basic shit like blurring and hard/soft edges were and also spent some time just learning the software I'm using (CSP)
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While I'm not good at it I do love to hatch, It's very fun but figuring out how things would reflect and where the shadows should be is hard for me to realize.
Also Toriyamas big head small body is easy for me to draw since I always end up making the head too big lol.
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>>6107307
Hello /asg/
I mostly do more Western style work
How am I supposed to get more appealing anime look?
This the first anime drawing in a long time
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>>6124915
First of all
Try flipping a canvas atleast every 5 minutes
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>>6123374
just keep iterating, maybe rotate the canvas, other anon said something about draw a box, dont do draw a box, maybe read the webpage but apply those exercises to the hair you are doing
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>>6124339
Looks amazing, well done anon.
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If any of you fags want to see speedpaint'd nip progress on their artwork use these
イラストメイキング
絵ができるまで or イラストができるまで
スピードペイント
描いてみた
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>>6125201
>コミクスイラスト
This too
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>>6125229
>>6125201
if only op added these to the opening post
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>>6124339
based karasu copier, you're gmi
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why are you all just copying shit
make your own art
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>>6125293
It's called studying, and this is the study thread. Pyw, piece of beg garbage.
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>>6125303
you can study without stealing
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>>6125306
No, you can't.
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>>6125308
yeah u can
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>>6125309
pyw
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>>6125335
why
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>>6125336
to prove you get good results from studying without copying
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>>6125342
you first
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>>6125344
kill yourself, beg
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>>6125347
why do you expect others to post work when you cant
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>>6124915
theres tons of beg errors, but the face is beyond fucked up, the right eye is too forward and the jaw is ultra largeand the right hand is backwards. you should try to avoid drawing symetricly when youa re doing clothes it looks unnatural usually clothing is never perfectly symetric, and you using a lot of straifght linesv together making uhhhh the whole drawing hard to read, try to mixing it up with some curvy lines if possible, ovbiously you wouldnt do that with things that are straight like a box, also she looks like shes falling.
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More Hatching
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>>6125336
>>6125344
post art, crab
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>>6107307
any tips/red-lining about how could I improve this drawing?
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>>6107437
the legend himself https://twitter.com/timbougami/media
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>>6126163
BASED TIM KRAUT
does he have a class or something like that? i wanna learn the western anime school kek
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>>6126170
here I looked it up https://youtu.be/dpd2N5y1lzw
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>>6124915
Two right hands to start
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>>6125702
4 heads high is really fucking awkward and people have hands
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>>6126307
are both things related to eachother?
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>>6126163
I don't see what's so great about their work
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>>6126307
shes supposed to be 10 and I haven't finished the hands
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where can I find references to practice/copy faces
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>>6126434
4 heads is a toddler. elementary schoolers are over 5 heads.
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>>6126469
https://setteidreams.net/settei/
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>>6126539
thanks, this is basically what i was looking for
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>>6125451
Thanks man
I'll make sure to improve on these
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>>6126486
Not in anime, k-on for example is 5.5 heads
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retard beginner here, can someone tell me how tf do I get the arm and shoulder perspective right? (btw she's supposed to hold a sabre above her head)

Also tell me what else sucks about this pic
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why are westerns so bad at art lmao
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I'm grinding more heads
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what do they use to animate drawings like this?
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How did I do? I rarely draw in digital(as in it's been like a year since I last did it and I fucking HATE drawing tablets) but I've also not been drawing all that much in general for nearly a year
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>>6126994
I should also mention that I'm using a pirated photoshop from like 2018
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>>6126994
Bad, sorry. The facial expression looks very off and the coloring and lineart are plain.
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>>6127055
Post art, faggot
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>>6120369
Cute
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>>6127059
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I drew an anime girl. How does it look? Is she deformed, or did I do okay this time?

>>6126994
Looks pretty good overall, but the face has some mistakes that even I can spot. Her brow ridge and eye are separated. Her left eye looks weird floating on her face like that. The lower half of her face looks too tall as well, you've given her a giant chin (too much space between chin and mouth). I love the hat though.
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>>6127194
Fuck, forgot image.
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>>6127197
not good...
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>>6127197
heres my fix
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>>6127248
Man that looks so much better, thanks.
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