i really tried to use it but i don't like the general workflow of switching tools/brushes like in csp. i use csp mainly and also have ps cc. i keep krita installed for some stuff because it's still useful like dealing with tgas and the gmic stuff

>>6522670
It's a crippled schizo with good intentions.

>>6522670
>because it lags and uses a lot of ram (low end pc users)
You shouldn't need a high end pc to draw

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I think years ago it must've crashed often since sometimes I see people talk about that. I didn't use earlier versions much because I drew more on trad so I didn't encounter that, but I've been using it frequently since version 4.something and it's fine. Performance might be worse on Windows/Mac, that'd make sense.
Most of the complaints I see are about it not being an exact free clone of some other software, like you mentioned. The eraser thing is a dumb complaint, the only real issue is the lack of gap closing in the year of our lord 2023. The text tool sucks, too, but I think fixing it is up next on their to-do.

>Maybe there is some drama
No it;s just more you pay better thing is. Why you even need it, use wahtewer you like let them use whatewer they want. Krita doing what I want and like it. But it;s me and my demands. You can use whatwer.

You also have AZ painter if you want an alternative

>>6522670
I really like it, is what I main. If I were a pro I would not use it simply because it isn't an industry standard. Most of the complains are mainly because artists suck at technology, kek half of /ic/ can't even rotate an image.

>>6522670

Unintuitive UI
Crashes
General Clunky Jew Feel
Over complicated brush system
Retarded brush panel sorting
Buggy / Retarded features

I dont like drawing in photoshop either but atleasts its streamlined with a better ui.

Clip is great but the only problem is its laggy transform tool if you have a low end cpu. When they upgrade their jap software to modern gpu, it'll dominate for illustration.

They just need to localize their plug-in documents.

I hope the people having problem picking brushes know you can make your fav brushes into My Favorites and having it be the default brush dock.

>>6522914
the brush dock sucks no matter if my favorite brushes are there or not. i like how csp handles it with tools and preset shortcuts better where i can have different types of brushes on buttons that are springloaded and i can cycle through if i repeat the hit.

Dave rapoza uses this but I have no idea how the fuck he can do it

>$219

Nah, I'm good with Krita.

Goddammit anon I'm not spending time changing my workflow just to save $50 anon! I charge more than that per character alone!

>>6523107
Good for you

>>6522670
I use it but I run linux and only use freetard software. Runs well enough on a 11 year old laptop but it does shit itself when I'm slapping a filter layer that affects 50 other layers. No urge to change.

>>6522670
It's perfect for rough sketching, but Clip's brushes are just better. They actually look like brush strokes, and feel a lot better.
Photoshop is good with color and sort of meh brush wise.

Does krita have an AI plug-in yet?

>>6523247
yes it does you can even use google colab as backend.

Love this type of thread,everyone comes to shit on Krita cuz muh lag.The hard truth is they all are equally laggy.Krita is buggy, most of the PS plugins are paid,CSP ones are only available in Japan. Krita had the liquify tool before CSP, PS have a fuckton of features, most of them aren't for illustration.The funniest thing is watch anons reee'ing just because someone don't use their "superior software".

Tbh,each software have it's advantages and focus:

CSP
>Makes illustrations,comics and animations
>Have a Light table tool(which is great)
>Auto actions
>Best brush engine
>3D models,you can pose them and make your own models(Clip Studio Modeler is free)
>Industry standard for anime and manga
>Workspace highly customizable
>Available on Apple products,Windows,Android and Linux

PS
>Makes illustration,concept art and photobash(textures if you are a game dev)
>Animation tool not so great
>Can import 3D models as well,but you can't pose
>Had liquify tool before any other software here
>Great plugins
>Brush engine highly customizable
>Good vector tools
>Supports almost every image format
>Industry standard for pretty much everything(except animation)
>Available on Windows,Linux and macOS(iPad too,but it's limited)

Krita
>Makes illustration,comic, animation (hand drawn) and texturing
>Customizable workspace
>Brush engine highly customizable
>Can make pixel gradients
>Free and open source
>You can write your own plugins
>You can make your own templates
>More lightweight than PS
>Brushes and tools for texturing
>Normal map layer mode
>Can import audio
>Good for sprites
>Have RGB brushes
>Available on Android,macOS,Windows and Linux

>Just pirate
Pirating is getting more riskier because of virus and shit,but fuck them for using subscription models.If you have a cracked program just make a backup of it for a future reinstall.

tl;dr:If the program satisfies your needs,stfu and draw.

>>6522693
can confirm
it says it runs on 4gb
you need at least 8 for it to run decently and im not even sure that its running at its max potential

>>6522670
i COULD switch to Krita from CSP, but i can't be bothered writing a plugin that emulates how CSP's erasers work, recreating brushes, readjusting muscle memory etc, all for what? I own a cracked copy and it works fine in every aspect.. if it ain't broke dont fix it

>>6522670
They're just hating on it because they don't know how to use it and they'd rather be cucked by some pay through the nose bullshit program.

>>6522670
I really like Krita but it has some major issues that can turn people off from it.

>One of the worst text tools ever made. Someone made a python plugin to add on canvas text editing but it's just a bandaid
>No way to save and load tool presents. Can only use 1 setting at a time for each tool.
>No line gap detection in bucket tool or magic selection wand
>The entire concept of their so called ""eraser tool"" was Foss autism brain

At this point it's like blender was a few years ago before it really got good. I like that Krita is one of the few good art programs

>that's free
>has no advertising
>No subscription/software as a service

>>6523544
/thread

>>6523589
>One of the worst text tools ever made
worse than csp's?

>>6523544
come to say this

>>6523311
>Pirating is getting more riskier because of virus and shit
Yeah you've said it, i literally tried cracking csp/ps or any other better paid program, even had issues with downloading sai, from 20 different sites that popped out, 80% of them had a virus, because everytime there was a tutorial, they include bs like "disable your firewall" and then you install 10 different unwanted programs that came up with the seemingly normal instalation...only site i was able to somewhat normally obtain programs was either monkrus and getintopc, without having to disable all the virus protectors
>>6523544
I thought it was relatively easy to learn it, it doesn't seem that much confusing, people need to use their brain more and adjust the settings, play with the layout a little bit...I've seen programs with even more confusing UI. Seems easy to say but in reality people want everything to be already set up for them, every setting and issue fixed before even obtaining programs.

The eraser being a blending mode of the [current_brush] instead of its own tool is just retarded. Not all brushes work well as erasers.

>>6525333
I like the eraser blending mode makes more sense to me, if I wanted an specific eraser well thats the purpose of the pop-up palette

>>6525333
just use the eraser brushes then

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>>6524532

It doesn't even have on canvas editing

>>6525333
because there's no eraser tool, brushes and "erasers" share the same brush smoothing/stabilizer settings. And there's no way to set a shortcut to temporarily switch to a eraser until you release the shortcut

All of that is done automatically in CSP

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>>6525804
>>6525333
just use the 10 brushes script (already comes pre installed), is pretty simple. Why "artists" suck at tech?

>colorize-mask
>split layers
These two have save me a lot of time these last few years. They are the main reason why I use Krita despite its RAM consumption problems and occasional crashes.
I also use it because I'm still using a Linux distribution, for some reason.

>>6522670
it's just to much imo, Drawing a line I watch as my CPU temps jump. Not even photoshop does that and it's heavy as shit

>>6525804
E

>>6522695

the general mindset of the dev was to be different for the sake if being different.

the mongoloid wanted people to use their shitty freeware that barely feels like every other paid art app just cause.

thats like switching the gas and brakes pedal on a car just to.

Apple mindset, same shit with procreate and its retarded naming scheme for brush settings

>>6522974

he only started for the views cause he probably thinks itll be like blender, he still uses csp mainly.

>>6524762
I'm >>6523589 and you are fucking right, if people just messed around with the UI and shortcuts until it gets comfy for them,they wouldn't be bitching about learning curve.
About pirating, I used a drawing blog to download pirated stuff and still works for me. Getintopc is great too,downloaded FL Studio here and I have a backup of the installer and crack.However, I'm giving the free programs a shot and I'm not disappointed so far. Some people here needs to draw instead of shitting on other drawing softwares.

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dawg just download photoshop cs2 since its free and legal because its basically abandonware at this point. fucking masahiro ito uses it for the exact reason of having photoshop without selling your soul to adobe

what brush do you use for lineart?

>>6522670
Krita is the best art program. The consumerist brain just doesn't understand that cheaper (or in this case, free) and less popular things can be better than expensive and popular things.

>>6526259
>just download photoshop cs2 since its free and legal
Does it come without viruses? Yeah, probably not. Just download Krita. And don't uninstall it just because of a teeny-tiny problem you have that you couldn't bother to change in the settings.

>>6524762
Quoted wrong,I'm actually >>6523311

>>6522670

Some of the brushes looks and feels so good. But everything else is just no. Even artist like dave rapoza only use it for a specific brush.

>>6526259
>download photoshop cs2
i don't want to get my pc infected with a trojan

>>6526259
>dawg just download photoshop cs2 since its free
>PS CS2 came out in April of 2005
I'd just rather work with a free software at this point than run an almost 18 year old program that most certainly doesn't recognizes pen stensitivity or stability and the layout looks like straight out of mspaint

>>6522670
spacebar stops dragging the canvas randomly and it can only comeback if you switch tools then try again, happens every 20 minutes or so

>>6523104
>paying for software in [current year]
god half of /ic/ is tech illiterate as fuck

>>6523311
>>6524762
>Pirating is getting more riskier because of virus and shit
just sandbox it you retards god damn

>>6529301
>having to learn stupid computer stuff when I can just use krita

I think switching to it from csp when you already have it is only makes sense if you are paying or what something more lightweight. switching from ps, is maybe, I would say it makes sense but it depends. If you just new to this and looking for program it functional and will satisfy most needs you can jst download and use it, program will not make you draw better.

>>6522670
I find it shocking there are people who think Krita is bad. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

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>>6522695
>>6525486
>>6525529
>>6525902
i'm sick of you ignorant niggers who keep whiteknighting krita's retarded eraser paradigm. as if the krita devs weren't still paying the price for choosing to make krita work this way
https://invent.kde.org/graphics/krita/-/milestones/3#tab-merge-requests and ctrl+f "erase" to see what they have had to monkeypatch in the past year just to make krita badly mimic the power of a dedicated erase tool. these 2 https://invent.kde.org/graphics/krita/-/merge_requests/1692 https://invent.kde.org/graphics/krita/-/merge_requests/1689 were added in the last MONTH
the supposed "elegance" of demoting "erase" to a mere blending mode became moot when the global "e" erase toggle became a thing, which was a long time ago. and it was OBJECTIVELY the wrong choice simply judging by how many erase-related monkeypatches the devs added since then.
the logical conclusion is for krita to have an actual no-bullshit erase tool, there is LITERALLY no other alternative

>>6529436
I dont know what you're talking about I've always used the hard eraser brush, I didn't even know that you could turn your brush into an eraser until a few months ago

>>6522670
the only problem I have with krita is that IT TAKES TEN FUCKING MINUTES TO START
other than that, it's fine

>>6529438
good for you anon. fortunately there are people with more imagination and IQ than you that are still working on it.

>>6526265
personaly i already gave up on lineart on krita, but im enjoying using small size airbrush to draw or basic2opacity

do people even use lasso tool to erase stuff, i think i ever only seen one person do it in my entire life
besides, who would need to erase stuff
just make first time good strokes kekw

>>6529436
It was a good idea to have a shortcut to automatically make any brush or tool become transparent or erase. But it was retarded to make that the default "E" button behavior or make it a substitute for a eraser tool.

I think the devs secretly know that having no dedicated eraser tool is a retarded idea, but have to much pride to add it in. theyre trying to frankenstein a "eraser tool" that's worse than a real eraser tool

Krita must feel like gimp to someone switching to it from csp

>>6529490
>Krita must feel like gimp to someone switching to it from csp
it feels really bad. i'm insanely productive in csp because of how many binds i have for tools that just work with my left hand swapping between different brush types, the transparency key defaults to c but i almost never use it unless i'm inking or using a 100% opacity/flow brush. photoshop doesn't have any good shortcuts either, users need to use the function keys to pick different brushes.

>>6529490
a couple of the prolific devs have admitted that an actual eraser tool would be better than trying to monkeypatch erase-mode semantics into more settings, the problem is the lead dev is too far up his own ass to accept any patches titled "add eraser tool" because that would contradict him once saying that krita will never have an eraser tool.
it's probably a matter of time until krita has its blender moment where fundamental assumptions about how the UI is supposed to work gets overhauled. but that moment will keep getting delayed if retards keep trying to defend the shitty UI as it exists now and take for granted how much it has been allowed to evolve over the years. but this is FOSS so that will probably be next decade

>>6529490
I don't understand you guys' problem? Krita has the "E"-erase function to quickly turn every brush into an eraser and also has dedicated eraser brushes.
It's a different setup than some other software, but it's not worse.

>>6529533
"E" does a lot more than just "turn every brush into an eraser", if that was all it did it'd be literally useless and no different than the blending mode shortcuts like Alt+Shift+M, which activates Multiply on the current brush. Pressing "E" does additional heavy-lifting like:
>activate the erase-mode specific opacity/size/flow setting for the current brush
As of last year it will also:
>activate the erase mode specific cursor setting
and as of last month it will also:
>activate the erase mode specific smoothing setting
>activate the erase mode specific assistant snap setting
Do you think these improvements make sense and are useful? Do you notice a pattern? What do you suppose the logical conclusion will be if this trend keeps up?

in any program you can pick any tip and any brush settings for eraser and for brush. in Krista you can pick any brush tip and settings and turn it to a brush or eraser. functioning it all identical in both programs. If by some retarded reason you offended by that then do not use Krista. For me it's great

>>6529560
can't tell if you're talking about clip studio or krita

>>6529436
its a matter of taste if you really can only work with 1 eraser just use 10 brushes script and overwrite the E shortcut, its easy.

>>6522914
You can use ten brushes script and set ten shortcut for them and when you click in the shortcut button it goes from the last brush you used to the brush to the one you set. So you can set pen and eraser and use them clicking one only button. it's great but those things are way hidden into the settings so you have to use a lot to find out. That's the shitty part of krita imo

>>6522670
The only thing i don't like is that i can't find the bin icon so i can delete brushes

>>6529685
it has nothing to do with how many erasers your workflow has
>hurr durr just use xyz
imbeciles like you hold krita back

>>6522670
It is really good in the one thing it was designed for - image processing for game dev.
I mean, really, why the heck seamless tile editing mode is still not presented in any other image editor??? This is like the most useful feature ever invented in the field of image processing and why is it presented only in Krita?

The fact that Krita had the liquify tool before CSP(Implemented one year ago kek) makes me wheeze

>>6523311
>>6529873

>>6529824
sure dude stay mad

>>6522670
It stops recognizing spacebar as dragging too often

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Can someone redpill me on Ebay listings for CS5 and CS6? I don't ever want to shill money out on a monthly/yearly basis to Adobe, and I don't want to risk getting viruses like the aforementioned anons were talking about. Are these listings legit, or are the CD keys almost always guaranteed to be void? Or do I just trust the seller feedback percentage and go from there?

>>6530643
>don't want to risk getting viruses
if you download some older release like from year or two ago,iven if it have some malware by a chance then the virus will be already patched by every antivirus known to mankind, this is pretty stupid desu desu

>>6530643
just spend the $10 a month for cc

>>6530646
This
>>6530643
I'm the one who posted that wall of text and what I can say is that the program is safe at this point. Many people still use CS6 for for the same reason

>>6530648
>Not giving a single penny to Adobe
What part didn't you understand?

It's bad because nearly every program has what krita has and does it better. However, krita has one of the best pencil engines, especially for a free program, so i use it solely because of that

>>6530648
>just spend money kek

>>6529514
They have a 200 post thread on their forum arguing about if Krita should have a real eraser tool or not. Some of the alternative "solutions" the users propose is more retarded autistic bullshit

>actual eraser tool would be better than trying to monkeypatch erase-mode semantics into more settings,

Like in Krita the eraser switch opacity and size options need to be enabled for each eraser brush. It doesn't work automatically like a real eraser tool

>but this is FOSS so that will probably be next decade

I notice that with Foss programs made by Linux users, the UIs are always the shittiest. It's not the same with windows and mac Foss programmers.

>Example RetroArch vs OpenEMU

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>>6522670
Krita is more than enough for anyone who only needs to draw and paint. Simple as.

>>6522670
He doesn't know.
We just gatekeeping it.

>>6531929
Not first post but still best post

>>6531929
cute pupper doggo
good post

>>6522670
Ok, let me give you a run down.

1) a long time ago, it was laggy a suck on windows, hell, as far as im aware as good as the windows current implementation is, its dogshit compared to krita on linux.

now you have the linux fags pushing this shit at all times which honestly no on likes.

2) performance, while its ok, I run a 1700 with 64gb of ram, its nothing special, to the point that painter, a program that is fucking dogshit for how buggy the shit is, runs better.

3) the brush engine, while it has gotten some significant improvements over time, comes with only a dencet pencil. I say decent because the best digital pencil took is in realist art studio, in fact on sale for 12$ realistic has every brush that comes with it being something useful or good. and this is krittas biggest failing, you can make a decent digital art with it, hell any program that lets you draw will do a decent digital art, but people want to mimic traditional, and im going to be real about this, if you use a digital art program to make a traditional artwork you are fucking retarded. use rebelle or get painter to work, play to the programs strengths.

4) realistically krita is not photoshop or for image manipulation
its more of a csp contender than a traditional drawing sim
But csp has its massive fuck off free resource library, something krita doesn't have and likely will never have for free

tldr

its good, but there is so much that is better for barely any money
its ok, but no one makes good resources for it for free and its harder than it should be to hunt good ones down
its competent but its no traditional sim

really, its just there, its what you use for free and you pay for better when you are able to, at the time I got most of my programs krita was still 100% unfucking useable on windows, I may not have gotten csp if it was, but every other program, realistic, paint storm, painter, art rage...I probably would have because krita doesn't touch them.

>csp has its massive fuck off free resource library, something krita doesn't have and likely will never have for free
>no one makes good resources for it for free and its harder than it should be to hunt good ones down
What the fuck are you talking about? Krita is FREE, and most of its user have the actual integrity to offer their quality resources for FREE. You'll find them easily if you actually look for it.
Meanwhile, CSP costs money (subscription-based soon), and many of its user try to sell you their shitty resources in the store for imaginary currencies costing real money. CSP also takes a cut, of course.

You sound like all the beginners who think brushes and stupid detrimental shit like 3D models and finger brushes is what you need to become a better artist. Many of these beginners are brainwashed CSP users and can't look beyond. Krita reigns supreme.

>>6531929
best post, good boy

>>6530648
Adobe's contract they make you sign is a scam

>>6522670
I would use it if I had to start all over again. Im used to the two programs I use (Procreate, and affinity photo), and I don't wanna learn again. If I switched to Linux at any point I would use this

Clunky brush UI.
I don't want to accidentally overwrite the standard pencil brush, so I don't touch it and making new ones seems to be such bother with having to make new icons.

>>6522670
yes

>>6523311
Funny how much people switched to Krita because PS was a laggy clusterfuck.
Krita is simple and perfect for real artists.

>>6536677
Yup,I saw that a lot. It's nothing wrong changing your software if doesn't work well with you or keep using if it does
Software war is retarded and autistic and yet,some anons here consider that a hill to die on

>>6536606
>I don't want to accidentally overwrite the standard pencil brush
use reload original preset
>so I don't touch it and making new ones seems to be such bother
its a bother if you dont know the basic settings of brushes unless you are trying to create something very specific you only alter flow, oppacity, size and use pressure or fuzzy dab as input. This is the same in csp and ps
> with having to make new icons.
you don't have to, or you can use the scratchpad

>>6536779
Well, excuse me, I'm technologically retarded.
I will check it out when I feel like it, thanks.

>>6522670
>I see people hating on this program from time to time (even more now) and I'm genuinely confused on why?.... ...

You're avoiding the more obvious and important reason, MONEY. A free program regarded by artists (even in the art industry) as an amazing piece of software good enough for them. That's a fuc*ing nuke attack on big corporations like adobe, corel, apple, etc. Smearing campaings are nothing new. And today are all over the place. Try to talk shit about airbnb, uber, or the "charities" model for laundering and tax evading. They will hit back. We live in a reality made of money and anything and everything has to do with it.

disable vsync via windows gpu software or vblank_mode=0 in linux.
draw in canvas only mode, not "full screen" or normal window.
use opengl, never directx
be sure large brushes have their precision settings on a low value or auto
if you're dealing with input delay on the tablet side, use opentabletdriver with "artist mode" if your device is compatible

>>6537805
THANKS!!!

>>6522670
retard, I won't read ur post. If you are serious about art as career, learn photoshop. If not, use whatever the fuck software u want, doesn't matter

>>6522670
Have you discovered Krita Portable? It works well with my laptop. It's either on Krita's website or you could pirate it. Good luck fren.

>>6542284
krita portable is NOT how you want to use it on windows. it has a shitty boot time and works worse because windows scans the files each time you use it. install krita if you're on windows

>>6542287
I'll admit, KP does boot up slower on my laptop compared to Krita on my desktop. But, I rarely had any lag while using KP.

>>6522670
I've had no issues using krita so far. Never had it crash, never had it lag, and it was fairly straightforward to get everything to my liking. The only thing I didn't like is that default eraser isn't hard 100% erase but that fix took me maybe 10 minutes without reading the manual.

>>6522670
only works with a drawing tablet

Literally just pirate CSP instead of using Krita.
Fucking brushes just all feel wrong.
No matter how much I test, install or mod them, they never feel right.
I would love CSP to have a radial menu tho, so I can do fullscreen.

How do I pirate a "better" program?

>>6522670
Im a SAI enjoyer

I would love a krita general

>>6544699
At this point there should be one. But it's such a simple and straight forward software that I wonder how much discussion can de produced about it.

>>6544802
>I wonder how much discussion can de produced about it.
probably as much as the slower generals.

But would be nice to have a place to talk about:
workflows, tools, modes, gmic, plugins, workplaces, brushes, support, etc

>>6546927
>support
This could be useful, Krita has a lot of "under the carpet" quirks and rough edges all over the place, wich it makes really hard sometimes to find just a simple fix.
One time I updated the nvidia driver, and that fucked up the wacom cursor mapping. The cursor was totally off center on krita. And there was no way to fix it back. I search in their forums and their support people explained like three different ways to fix it. None of wich worked, till I clicked one option box that I can't even remember and it was all working good again.
Krita is fucking awesome. I Wish it didn't have these little nuances that gives the wrong idea to people that stumble on them and can't get pass that. Every problem on Krita can be fixed. It just need better support.

Krista has its quirks but I've gotten comfy with it. I believe it's also the only art program that can produce scene-referred HDR images, which makes doing animations and scenes with dynamic lighting and exposure levels a breeze.

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>>6522670
desu I've never personally known a single soul who mains Krita. I think I tried it once back in the DA days and dropped it, but I never played with it long enough to form a substantive opinion. Literally everyone I knew back in the day used Photoshop, SAI, or GIMP (if they were too retarded to find SAI or steal Photoshop). Now, it's mostly SAI and Clip.

tl;dr, who uses Krita in the first place? How does one form such a strong opinion of it? It's like having an opinion on the Opera browser.

>>6548002
>I think I tried it once back in the DA days
When was that? I found Krita around 2013, it was great even then, but it had bugs here and there. When they droped Krita 2.9 y droped photoshop. Krita was better just for drawing. Even when they updated the program I stayed years and years with the 2.9 version.
Today Krita 5 is a professional software at this point. It can be a replacement for Photoshop if you want to. IT's not as powerful, or the same. Just another good enough option.

>>6522670
>I see people hating on this program from time to time (even more now) and I'm genuinely confused on why?
Because it's FOSS.
We have the same thing happen for Godot (the game engine often compared to Unity).
FOSS almost always get both very enthusiastic supporters and very enthusiastic antis.

i used to mainly use krita but for one reason or another i dropped it in favor of CSP. sometimes i go back for the mypaint brushes they included in 5.0, but usually it's such an egregiously bad UX experience compared to CSP that i don't stay for long.

>>6522670
It's poorly optimized. Even with my high end PC it works like shit after awhile. Thats my only gripe with it.

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I only use hard round and opacity round 99% of the time so things like brush engine don't matter too much to me
I am on 16GB Ram, Windows, and never experience lag or stability issues, usually painting on canvases from 4k x 4k -> 8k x 8k
Maybe one day I will reach a point where there are substantial reasons for me to switch to CSP / Photoshop (I own CSP but too lazy to relearn UI)
I don't think the difference between CSP / Krita / Photoshop matters at a basic level. Hell SAI has like 20% of the features of the others and is still used.

Here's something I painted today with Krita.

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>>6549410
Here's a richard schmid study I did also on Krita

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>>6549410
>>6549412
looks great, I'm still grinding my drawing skills but my goal is do something like pic related, I want to try it but whats the workflow of something like this on krita (or digital generally speaking).

>>6522670
GIMP() is loads better.

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>>6549414
same as on physical media, just with the option to take advantage of clipping groups, layers + blending modes, etc.

>>6548193
Krita's UI is basically CSP if it didn't have sub tools.

Paint has every option you need. If you're in top 5% digital artists (and you're not), you may upgrade to Paint.NET. Microsoft Power Point for operations with layers.

>>6522670
it's actually good but has some quirks that require adjustments manual or mental.
>It's hard to setup favorite brushes and impossible to save resulted brush library to move or safekeep.
>Layer properties (Luminosity in particular) are working differently from any other drawing program.
>Pen sensitivity globally is too sensitive. Could be adjusted on brush by brush basis but it's pain.

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>>6522670
I use it, switched over from Paint Tool Sai a while back and I primarily use the pixel brush.
The only issues i find are if the canvas is too big or opening more than 7 large files at once, otherwise it works fine for me.

>>6522670
I used to use Gimp but switched to Krita but I have no idea how their line tool works. Is there any good tutorials or plugins to improve it?

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>>6551062
Pretty straight forward. I never read the guide, I don't think is necessary but
https://docs.krita.org/en/reference_manual/brushes/brush_engines/curve_engine.html

>>6551098
That is very interesting but it's actually not what I meant.
In Gimp you can place a "line" thats not actually part of the image and move it around without placing a "stroke" with multiple "pivot points" on the "line" that is how you can movversion. You can "stroke" the "line" to have it actually appear on the canvas/image and it allows you to put the "stroke" inside/outside/or on the "line".
I assumed the vector shape tool is how it's translated to Krita but it's not as easy to understand as Gimp's verson or as conveniant for mouse only art.

>>6551132
I'don't do vectors in krita, but all the tools are there it seems. First I added a vector layer (I think this is the mosst important step, you can't use any vector line tool otherwise in any other sort of layer), then you can use any vector drawing tool, like Beziel curve tool, Freehand path tool, polyline tool, polygon tool, elypse tool, rectangle tool, then once you have a line work done use the "edit shapes tool" to edit the pivot points however you want. I've never tried this, but now I see that it's all there.

>>6549815
thanks I will try it

>>6532911
>fucking thiiiiis
If you are a retard who thinks he needs 500 different brush packs to be a good artist you are actually retarded.
ALSO if you "need" to download a brush because you can't just look at it and make it yourself or at least make something functionally identical to it then you are a fucking retard who doesn't deserve to use it because you don't understand it. It's a fucking digital brush I mean come on I'm sure some people might prefer the subjective feel of one brush engine or the other in CSP vs Krita vs PS but it's not like any program has a unique brush feature that another fucking lacks.
>inb4 some gimmick bullshit
STFU people figured out how to make digital brushes in like 1995. If some person or company is trying to sell you some amazing new left-nut stabilization AI-interpolation Chat-GPT integrated hard round brush then you are getting fucking scammed.
Plus I haven't read the CSP license but I would bet almost anything that the fine print says they fucking single handedly own anything you upload to their asset store (where I'm sure they also take a huge cut of your sales from).
Chad Krita is mogging all these fucking subscription services but smoothbrains can't accept that they are getting scammed lmao.

>>6550686
Yes and not having subtools is a shit load of fuck.

>>6552028
>not just binding every tool you actually use to a keyboard shortcut
FML you people will find anything to complain about. If Krita had subtools you faggots would be crying that they aren't organized right (by which you mean that they aren't organized like CSP does it). Seriously you can customize anything and everything about Krita and what kills you is having to scroll a little bit down your tools list???? I prefer that over clicking twice desu.

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>>6552028
Subtools? Krita is LOADED of subtools. You just have to look. It's supposed to be a fast and easy software for traditional oriented artists. We want Krita to stay like that, so it's a hard balance to mantain for the developers.
>>6551918
I bet, that Krita has even more options than CSP. There's a shitload of stuff in submenus that I don't even care to check.

>>6550959
>He doesn't know about the elite top 0.01% with exclusive and prestigious access to Kid Pix
lmaoing at ur life

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>>6522670
The main reason I stopped using photoshop periodically is because doing commisions (e.g. earning money) with cracked software just makes me fuckin paranoid
I don't know how small the chance is of getting caught as a small nobody but it being more than 0 is enough for me

>>6553864
pirating photoshop is beyond keyed doe

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if i do fast lines in krita oi get these weird lag lines. only happens if i go really fast.
never noticed if this happened before but other then that its a good program, been using it for 3 years now

>>6553867
it was a tablet issue never mind

>>6553864
There's no fucking way you're getting into any trouble over that.There's whole goverments and businesses using unregistered windows OS and other softare all over the world and no one cares.

In any case, I could see an small chance to be called out if you build a business of graphic design, animation, school, etc, with offices full of employees using pirated software and getting like a truck load of money out of it.

Anyway, using Krita knowing that it's open source and you don't even need PS, gives you a beautiful feeling of empowerment and freedom. It's totally worthly just for that.

>>6522670
no, i use it and my art comes out fine

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WHERE DO I DOWNLOAD/TORRENT PHOTOSHOP FROM I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR HOURS BUT EVERY SITE I FIND LOOKS SKETCHY/IS RUSSIAN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6553864
t. zoomer

>>6553864

>>6555157
fucking zoomers

>>6555053
GetintoPC.

>>6555053
monkrus is legit

>>6555053
You can get it here for free:
https://krita.org/en/download/krita-desktop/

>>6522670
krita is great, i'm using it every day

>>6522670
I've been using Krita since I upgraded my PC and have switched from Paint.NET. I haven't had much issue with convenience that hasn't been resolved by reading the manual, but I have had what felt like a couple of bugs.

>>6523311
>Pirating is getting more riskier because of virus and shit
Run it within a virtual machine. That's what I plan to do whenever I figure out this stupid samba shit.

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>>6522670
Testing Krita record webm output file

>>6555391
It worked! It couldn't upload the mp4 file but it worked with the webm outpup file option.
Really cool, how easy is to get a timelapse with it. I don't know why sketch artists are not using this tool already.

>>6555391
Nice sketch anon

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>>6555403
Thanks, I tried another sketch to test the preview option. This could be great for a general thread of krita sketch recorder. It's really easy. It should be on low-res canvas like 1200px and half resolution on the recorder, so the output file is as small as possible. And of course a fast drawing like 10 minutes. I would say the file should be kept below 1mb, as a general rule.

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Ok, last test. Done on 1200x1200px canvas. Brush sketching chrome on 30% opacity. Recorder options, capture interval 1 sec, Quality 80%, Resolution Half, Export options, 1 second of preview is more than enough, 4 seconds of extend end result or less, render as WebM to upload here. Within a 10 to 15 minutes you can get a pretty small file. It's a matter of personal tweaking to find the optimal output, size wise.

THE IMPORTANT issue: you need a ffmpeg.exe file. I don't remember where did I get mine, but it's easy to find. Just place it in the output folder, so you can find it in the export options. That's all.

>>6555391
>>6555432
>>6555463
Looks great, speed is good for display purposes if you ever make a tutorial I would leave it at 2.5 speed tops otherwise some brush work gets lost.

What texture is that? I envy your brush control any tips?

>>6555186
ill look into this ty
>>6555207
i saw online that it got compromised recently? i might download it on a virtual machine to ensure its safe
>>6555344
i have csp, but i want the real drug (ps)

>>6555706
Thanks anon. The level of speed capture is managed in the capture interval option, 1 second is the minimun time option. So that's the most "in real time speed" available. Wich is good to me actually I think is great.

About the texture, that's just the standard brush "sketching chrome thin", I just lower the opacity to get that "texture". Between 15% and 50% opacity does the trick. That brush has an in built control line that works pretty freaking good for sketching.

I you want to do line art with a pen brush there is an specific tool for line control >>6551098
By the way I'm using a simple intuous wacom without the pressure (I have it set at softest) and without tilt options, I don't need that with that brush. I really don't know how good pressure and tilt works on krita never tested it.

>>6555751
thanks I will try it later.

>>6555432
>>6555463
And anons still cope that Krita is a ""bad program""
My guess is they got filtered by it

>>6553893
What tablet problem was?I want to know,just in case...

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>>6555391
Tried it the other day too. Exported as mp4 then compressed it with WebMConverter.

>>6556283
Awesome. Great work anon. Thanks for the tip on compressing the mp4.

>>6532911
>You sound like all the beginners who think brushes and stupid detrimental shit like 3D models and finger brushes is what you need to become a better artist. Many of these beginners are brainwashed CSP users and can't look beyond. Krita reigns supreme.
>>6551918
>If you are a retard who thinks he needs 500 different brush packs to be a good artist you are actually retarded.
>ALSO if you "need" to download a brush because you can't just look at it and make it yourself or at least make something functionally identical to it then you are a fucking retard who doesn't deserve to use it because you don't understand it. It's a fucking digital brush I mean come on I'm sure some people might prefer the subjective feel of one brush engine or the other in CSP vs Krita vs PS but it's not like any program has a unique brush feature that another fucking lacks.
>>inb4 some gimmick bullshit
>STFU people figured out how to make digital brushes in like 1995. If some person or company is trying to sell you some amazing new left-nut stabilization AI-interpolation Chat-GPT integrated hard round brush then you are getting fucking scammed.
>Plus I haven't read the CSP license but I would bet almost anything that the fine print says they fucking single handedly own anything you upload to their asset store (where I'm sure they also take a huge cut of your sales from).
>Chad Krita is mogging all these fucking subscription services but smoothbrains can't accept that they are getting scammed lmao.

You don't need addons, but it can help. It can be hard to exactly replicate some stranger brushes out there. A lot of CSP addons are free from what I understand, you don't have to shill out for their premium app currency for all of them.

But yeah, fuck subscription software. No way am i paying for CSP every month. I'm sticking with krita, unless i suddenly become incredibly wealthy.

>>6552358
Is there porn of the krita squirrel? Asking for a friend (Me).

>>6551203
from what ive heard kritas vector options are lackluster and Inkscape has better.

>>6556326
I tried Inkscape a couple years back and I remember it had a great vector drawing tool. But the rest of the program as a whole was quite much "clunky". When I tried vectors in Krita the other day it felt actually very good. Maybe I should check inkscape again, but I would prefer Krita to be the central piece software to do all these kinda stuff. I'll check inkscape update.

>>6556323
draw one yourself (using krita)

idk i think its nice

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>>6556688
It is nice, AND functional.

>>6556792
Nice sketch

>>6556323
>>6556670
Found some:
https://e621.net/posts?tags=kiki_the_cyber_squirrel

>>6556025
out dated driver

>>6522670
i mad fuck with krita ive been using for the last 3 years, making a whole ass shitty fucking comic. im using it like a caveman ape moron though i draw dumb thick lines 90s comic shit which isnt really like kritas strongsuit, the painting tools and brushes and options and shit are mother fucking vast as fuck anon

id be lying if i said its been a completely smooth experience, i remember getting my xp-pen screen tablet to go was kind of a bitch i had to find some fucking obscure ass setting and than the shit worked

sometimes it crashes for retarded reasons but ive only really hard lost any file like one time 2 years ago it catches that shit nearly every time

that said every time it crashed it was because i did something retarded like accidentally asking it to set canvas size to like a million or something

i remember one time i copied plain text, hit paste before selecting the crappy text tool and it killed krita, i think that one actually made my ass laugh when that shit happened

krita's literally the best option from a price to performance ratio perspective. it's rough around the edges sometimes and cant always compete on every front with every other software, but it gets you like everything you need competently for absolutely free, so i fuck with it

>>6558132
>my xp-pen screen tablet to go was kind of a bitch i had to find some fucking obscure ass setting and than the shit worked
There's a lot of that happening it seems. I don't think it's a particular Krita problem, There's too many fucking tablets out there of all sorts. It must be a nightmare to keep all that in check, being freeware on top of that.

>>6522670
It has a random chance of crashing every time I try to hue shift, this shit is ridiculous.

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>>6522670
It isn't bad but it constantly struggles under the weight of its unyielding creators.
Like GNOME they have a serious attitude problem where their entire community could be begging them to change something very minor (eraser tool, brush keyboard shortcuts, etc) where for literal years the devs heard but quite literally told the community that it doesn't know what it wants and proceeded to do some bonkers retarded other thing entirely.
They're honestly pretty infuriating because their obsession with looking unique or different from CSP/Photoshop has caused them to devolve into the blue haired equivilant of an art program.

things aren't done because it's an improvement. things are done because it's different.

>>6558944
What? I never had that problem, like ever. And I use that a lot, changing the hue levels.

>>6558955
link to examples?

>>6558955
I keep reading this and that about the eraser tool. But it works perfect. I press the shortcut key, it turns the brush that I'm using to eraser mode, and that's perfect. Why change it? I hope they don't ever touch that.
And what about the keyboard shortcuts? They are all customizable. What's the problem here?

>>6558955
>tried to differ from PS
>doesn't have transparent color
>one of the layouts is a PS based one
Why the FOSS/FLOSS community is pure autism?

>>6558955
Refactoring is a bitch, this is something people will never understand. Put a bounty hunt on a feature and you will see implementation prices for things that look quite simple.

>>6559174
>Refactoring is a bitch, this is something people will never understand
Yeah, with larger projects it can be the equivalent of untrained surgery.

>>6523311
What features does CSP have that krita doesn't?

it would crash on ubuntu 20.04 LTS but they have fixed that issue. Krita is fucking fantastic, and there are tons of really big artists who use it.

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>>6559220
3D models,dedicated paneling tools,somewhat better vector tools,better animation tools(but that will depend on you tbf)

>>6559220
And like some anon said,transparent color
Not exactly a problem since the PS also does not have it

>>6559248
PS added the feature a few years ago, you can hold a button that activates the Clear mode on the brush you're using and it springs back

>>6559248
>>6559263
Isn't that just the fucking eraser tool on the toolbar at the top?

>>6559248
what is transparent color?

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>>6559231
they are doing their best anon

>>6559664
I want to uninstall krita now wtf

>>6522670
Dunno. I really like using it.

>>6559664
At least she is drawing and so should the board

>>6559123
Eraser mode is literally just transparent color.

>>6559943
Let's say that I have a textured brush,if i switch to eraser mode, it will keep the brush properties or not?

>>6559947
Yes.

>>6559947
Thanks bro

>>6559951
wrong quote fuck
but thanks

>>6559943
another case of I can't read documentation or ask questions properly. FOSS will never make it because of this

>>6559977
To be fair, open source stuff does need to be more use friendly often.

>>6560012
I understand what you're saying, but most of the time, UX/UI is a meme. What really makes the difference is the community. The reason people like the PS layout is because whenever there is a new change to the UI, there are tons of updated YouTube videos on how to do certain actions, which makes them believe that the software is intuitive. It's always about having a digestible source on hand.

>>6560012
It should be 50/50
50% intuitive
50% reading the documentation

Kirita is great for what it is. I've had the best experiences with it on Linux and Android.
If the mobile version could load scripts and have better font management, it would be a dream. Right now, I have CSP but don't use it in a way that justifies paying for the upgrade or maintaining a subscription. Krita is just enough.

>>6560012
A lot of the open-source spergs don't understand this since they take pride in using something that really needs a usability makeover.
Krita's layout actually reminds me a lot more like CSP in that it's intimidating out of the box, but easily customizable and falls into how you want to use it. I would not be surprised if Krita's interface deliberately emulated CSP's.

>>6559115
the issue is that it's possible to swap between only two different brush presets/tool
there are ways around this limitation but the fact that it takes even one extra button press means it disrupts the flow of a lot of people.
additionally any modification of krita is pointless in most work and school environments where your machine "resets" itself upon logging off into a clean slate. you could store various settings and even write a script to restore krita to what you're used to but that isn't always possible either.
people don't want to spend the first 10-20 minutes of their work day setting up a program every single time.

>>6561015
Fucking this.I use Krita but I spent more time setting my shit up than drawing

Krita is my favorite drawing program, I don't have any of the problems you guys are describing. On my machine it loads fast and it's responsive. Faster than Photoshit and the brushes and brush customizability is much better.

It handles tall layer stacks better than Photoshop which has crashed on me many times when I get to around 200 layers.

It also does animation better than Photoshop. More intuitive onion skinning, easier to manipulate layers and mark keyframes, etc.

I always use the latest beta versions because Krita gets regular updates with new features and bug fixes all the time.

Works on my machine. I've been using it for a while now and I think it's great. I've used PS for drawing before but after switching to Krita haven't reinstalled PS since. Only negative thing I can say about it for sure it is that the text tool really is atrocious and I wish it was more like PS.

Where can i find Krita brushes as easily as CSP brushes?

>>6562031
https://files.kde.org/krita/extras/
https://www.youtube.com/@KritaOrgPainting/videos
Some offical extra ones. Videos about them too.
https://www.davidrevoy.com/tag/brush
https://www.youtube.com/@DavidRevoy/videos
One guys custom brushes, also has videos about how to use them.
https://krita-artists.org/c/resources/brushes-and-bundles/32
There are quite a lot more on the forums.

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It's good for what it is, but I've definitely had my fair share of crashes and slowdowns with it. Though, that said, my workflow tends to involve lots of layers with lots of blending mode pixel math, which, on top of the whole image being 16-bit, might require more capable hardware than most use cases.

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>>6562075
>those watercolor brushes
The look so nice but I cannot fathom how to utilize them properly

>>6562289
not him but you can find tutorials on youtube
At least that can give you a foundation on what to do

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I for once really like Krita's eraser mode. Here's a quick study I made in Krita. Yeah it could be better but I don't think having better software can improve your actual knowledge of fundies.

>>6523311
CSP is not available on Linux, not officially supported at least.

>>6559115
>I press the shortcut key, it turns the brush that I'm using to eraser mode, and that's perfect. Why change it?
The problem with this is that it turns your brush into an eraser insead of switching to a completely different tool with its own settings. So for example the eraser will have the same exact size as the brush you were using and if you change the size of the eraser to remove some tiny details you'll be stuck with that small size when you switch back to the drawing or painting brush, so you'll have to adjust the size again. When I'm drawing a rough sketch it completely disrupts my flow, that and the fact that changing the size of the brush with keys is very slow.

>>6562618
Ok, but thats a functionality that totally works for me. When I press eraser mode is a continuation of the brush flow, specially when I'm sketching. It turns the brush into lighting source or whatever lighting texture I want to apply. Like when you use those eraser pens in traditional drawing but much more better.

If they change this it will totally trash my system. It gets me really worried whenever I hear all this noise about the eraser mode.

>>6562618
There's an option at the bottom of the brush settings window to enable the eraser mode to have a separate brush size

>>6562608
Made a mistake fuck
But I saw some people trying to install on it and succeeded to do so.But yes, it would be nice if they put an official support for Linux

>>6559248
>>6559541
it's just eraser brushes lmao, csp just made it with another shitty name

>>6562618
Pressing shift then dragging lets you change the brush size dynamically and that's much faster.

>>6562683
wine doesn't count, at least until gets official support from microsoft (I will never happen)

>>6562601
nice
>Yeah it could be better
how?

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>>6559664
>>6559231
That looks... Less than desirable but I'll cut her some slack because
>Now I digitally paint with an old laptop and a built in mouse - I don't have a drawing tablet
Also
>South Africa
She's already farther than 90% of the board.

>>6563173
The proportions could be better in some areas and it feels like she is shaded too flat, especially on her cheeks. I drew this a couple of months back and after this long you just start noticing things you've missed before.

>>6563195
I don't get it, what's the point of drawing digitally without a drawing tablet? I kind of understand doing 3D sculpting like this, but drawing requires lots of precision.
>inb4 stop crabbing, just let people draw
There's those things called pencil, ink, paint and paper. They're much cheaper than drawing tablets and will give you prettier results. And they allow you to actually learn something about line weight, drawing with confidence etc - all the skills that are a must when using drawing tablets.

>>6563479
I thought you were talking about krita not you drawing.

>>6522670
The only real criticism is indeed crashing, which wasn't solved for years. At some point it started crashing every hour or so and no one could help me. I soldiered on with the auto-backup feature. A couple versions ago i ran memtest and adjusted the settings, no more crashing. No idea what exactly fixed it.

>>6562075
cool, I really want a krita general, what other sources can we add for OP post?

I really like David Revoy content

>>6565414
Having a general is pointless, specially when no other software has one. I only use Krita but polluting the board with something like that will only make people even more adverse to giving it a chance.
We already get threads when a new version comes out since it's a good reason for discussion. I'm looking forward to that garbage text tool finally getting sorted out.
You could make a FAQ pastebin to post on occasions like that, I remember a few years ago there was something similar with a copypasta with links for brush bundles. It could benefit from a section about plugins since Ten Brushes is so useful.

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>>6559231
>The absolute state of Krita

why is this shithole thread still up, krita is a fine program you're just some copelet seething that he subscribed to some goy system where you get money wrenched out of your wagie bank account each month when you could have just used krita instead while donating some money voluntarily to help improve it
rope yourself faggot

>>6561354
they know, its just not high in their list of priorities right now, though if people bothered donating or writing addons for it instead of complaining this wouldnt be an issue, now go pay your monthly goy subscription to your multibillionaire proprietary software company for a software that you dont actually own and merely have a license to rent for a while
FAGGOT

>>6566640
>t.seething adobe shill

>>6566607
Have you donated to them today, anon?
I'm sure that they don't ignore the donating people and just add things that no one asked for instead of actually improving the program...

>>6566287
>an 18 year old has been doing art for only 4 years in her spare time as a hobby
The Krita devs are trying to show that people like you still got a chance to start drawing and improve. Krita is here to make many dreams come true. It's not about "looking pretty", marketing, or locking you into a closed system to keep you hooked and suck you dry.

>>6566748
Too bad programfags here don't get it because they don't draw
Also,did someone here used the Krita RGB brushes?

>>6566824
>Also,did someone here used the Krita RGB brushes?
what about them?

>>6522670
I never figured out how to pirate CSP years ago so it was Krita all the way for me.

>>6522670
Could there be a way to port brushes from other apps (like CSP) to krita?

>>6567453
It's not simple because the brush engines work differently so the brush parameters are not equivalent. Krita's .abr import just loads the brush texture and you need to set all the parameters manually. I found this script for extracting the texture from CSP brushes if you need it.
https://krita-artists.org/t/csp-brush-png-extractor/31626

what brushes do you all use for sketching and lineart? asg told me gpen but it feels so harsh

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>>6566640
You don't and wouldn't donate to the development of this app, would you?

>>6567766
I like using something with little to no size variance and fixed high opacity. I think sketch brushes are definitely something you should fuck around with and eventually customise for yourself(mine is like d) Ink-2 Fineliner with very slight opacity variance), but brushes close to that description like c) Pencil-2 or a smaller version of b) Basic-4 Flow Opacity are easy to start with.
Whoever told you to use a goddamn lineart brush of all things was either ignorant or fucking with you, if you watch Japanese timelapses like >>4008919 (on warosu archive) you'll see hardly anybody ever uses anything remotely like it.
Size variance can be nice for blocking in shapes faster but something that tapers thinly for details like that sounds like absolute ass for sketching.

>>6567874
I hate when some weeb says to use them because muh asian jeans. Saw this shit on the /asg/ multiple times,you can tell how well it ends...
Don't do this, if someone says otherwise, just tell them to fuck.

>>6568054
fuck off*
damn it

>>6567874
>Whoever told you to use a goddamn lineart brush of all things was either ignorant or fucking with you, if you watch Japanese timelapses you'll see hardly anybody ever uses anything remotely like it.
As far as I'm aware G-pen is recommended for learning because
1. Teaches you line confidence
2. Not easy to hide mistakes with

>>6568068
G-pen might be 100% opaque thus good for line confidence in theory but it actually makes it incredibly easy to hide your mistakes since the size variance lets you get away with a lot of vagueness. Making thick "walls" of restated lines is the most surefire way to get one of those unreadable sketches that appear passable but can't survive cleanup, using something with a lot of size jitter is just asking to get that. The tapering and small size at low pressure lets you noodle around with details before it's at a stage where it's advisable to do so and all the varying weight will make it appear better than it actually is. A fixed or small variable width brush is closer to a mechanical pencil or pencil held in writing grip which is what human beings have historically using for drawing their animes.
Since the high opacity is the only redeeming quality it's better coupled with fixed width. It's more like a ballpoint pen or fineliner, you immediately notice when you're overlapping lines too much or not connecting them very well and it looks hideous. Unlike with the G-pen you can't draw blobby areas with the correct line "hiding" somewhere in the middle, and it would take some real fucking effort to scribble so badly you'd end up with anything similar meaning you'd notice what was happening long before you got to that state.

>>6568081
Fucking this.I use G-pen for inks,like it was supposed to be.
Mangakas might use this pen for sketches,but they know what they're doing instead of throwing random lines.
This is why most of the sketches around here that was made with the G-pen sucks.

>>6568081
I see, thanks for the explanation anon

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>>6522670
idk but can it do this?

>>6522670
I forgot to buy the CSP 2.0 upgrade when it was on sale and now refuse to pay full price and looking for an alternative, how is Krita for painting?

>>6531911
>decade
Insane, the lead devs only excuse is that it would make Krita too much like other programs. He's insanely hostile to even polite suggestions for adding such a inoffensive qol change that would make Krita more usable for people experienced with other programs.
Why are FOSS devs like this bros...

>>6569433
It doesn't seems too far fetch, its doable with opencv + AI. What I don't like is that the forearm stays the same it should change its width depending of the hand gesture because muscles and stuff.

>>6569889
because they are not wrong, just look at these thread:
>no transparent color
use the brush as eraser (default) or layer blending mode eraser
>no dedicated eraser
just use the 10 brushes

From a dev standpoint all use cases are being covered. FOSS budgets are slim, refactoring is expensive, not everyone is going to like it.

That money would be better spend in more tutorials, new features or fixing critical bugs

>>6569444
It's fine. It gets the job done without needing to waste hours fucking around finding the "perfect" brush pack.

>>6570162
Krita devs are extremely autistic for making the eraser tool that way to start with. How in the world being different from the other programs is more important than functionality?

>>6570162
Is it possible to erase with pressure->opacity when using a brush that has no opacity variation?
Or am I supposed to switch brushes before erasing in that case

>>6559103
nta and not krita
but this is a pretty good example of what he's talking about.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/settings-mockups/-/issues/51

open source is rife with this kind of autism

>>6570927
Yes that's possible, you have to switch your brush.
I'm not sure what the problem is, you can always switch back and forth between all kinds of brushes and all kinds of erasers with just one click as long as you set up some shortcuts.
You could duplicate a brush with no opacity, go into the copy's brush settings to turn on the opacity and turn it into an eraser. If that's what you wish to do. Anything is possible. :)

>>6570986
THANKS!!!

>>6522670
Who said?

>>6570979
And when I said that open source walks along with autism people got all defensive and tried to deny it. At least is kinda of amusing
>t.anon who advocates open source software

>>6570162
a dedicated eraser is more than just a brush preset. smoothing for example isn't part of it yet, which is annoying if you're using strong smoothing for linework and want to quickly erase a part of a line.

krita has consistently been evolving in the direction of expanding what conceptually encompasses an eraser, there will be a point where it will be it is basically its own tool. 10 brushes for example didn't exist for the vast majority of krita's history, and was only made possible with python scripting of all things.

you're not helping krita by trying to convince people to just work with it as it exists now. its an open source project and thus thrives on contributions from frustrated people who don't like putting up with nonsense and bad design. blender went through a needful UI overhaul that wouldn't have happened if people just lived with it and sweeped UI problems under the rug because "from a dev standpoint all use cases are being covered".

>>6571081
Fucking this

>decided to try out Medibang/Firealpaca because simple brush settings
>turns out I cannot change the settings in such way I could use stencil's buttons to move the canvas and switch brushes
>so stuck with either Krita or Drawpile
I just want to switch between pencil and eraser and to move the canvas, so I could comfortably sketch with one hand.

>>6571081
>its an open source project and thus thrives on contributions from frustrated people who don't like putting up with nonsense and bad design.

Agreed and this is why you can setup a bounty for this feature if you really would kill for this. But judging by the forums you can really tell users will not pay for something like this, maybe if it becomes an industry standard would attract more investment but heck not even opentoonz is an industry standard even though is backed by a prestigious studio (kinda)

>>6571208
try
settings tab > configure krita > canvas input settings > tool invocation > add shortcut > press stylus button

>>6571653
>configure krita
no no, you don't understand.
It WORKS on Krita. I just wanted it to work on Medibang, but it doesn't.

>>6571932
can't you map the buttons on your tablet? I'm sure wacom microsoft driver is capable of mapping keystrokes

>>6522695
I liked krita but one thing I wish krita did, was that, in Photoshop, when you move a slider on a filter or something like brightness/contrast, it automatically previews it, you see the change instantly, but in krita you have to like keep nudging it to preview, it's been a while since I last used krita though

>>6571974
It is, but:
Krita has key for showing quick menu with all favorite brushes for quick change(not to mention all other stuff like zoom and color pick), so no need to reach to the sides/top to change the brush
In Drawpile you can switch between last two used tools, so I can toggle between brush and eraser with one button
Then I can use the second button for canvas movement.

Medibang has neither of those, so it feels clunky to me.

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>>6522670
Literally, the snipping tool is better than Krita sometimes

>>6529341
i used to use CSP and photoshop for making my stuff but its bound to windows and requires me to suck bill gates cock to use so i prefer krita