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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8
Krenz Accuracy Imgs: https://files.catbox.moe/tklkj8.rar
Krenz Courses: https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6548386
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I've failed you master
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I watched the Krenz vid and wanted to ask, when he talks about training accuracy as a beginner, is there any specific method to it or do I just use grids and angles? Has anyone else used those methods?
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Can I do Krenz on paper with traditional art?
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in (you)r opinion, who draws the best faces?
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>>6558040
For starters stop using that shitty westoid brush and use the g-pen
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>>6558126
Yes.
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>>6558008
**KINGS** OF /ASG/ I SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE OUR FACTION!!
WE STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE AND UNRELENTING TOTAL CONQUEST!!
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I'm exhausted, this is taking way longer than I thought it would, and still WIP. Do I just force myself to finish it or just trash it?
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>>6558219
force urself to finish it (the hard part), or you wont learn
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>>6558222
this
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>>6558193
i would lose my mind if i tried to copy it with g-pen, but yeah next time i try.
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>>6558219
I think you should force yourself to finish it
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>>6558050
https://youtu.be/iK5Qn_Iwv9A
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>>6558222
>>6558243
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Think im gettin there
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quick bocchi sketch. used ref from anime.
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>>6558193
pyw
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>>6558494
Zoom out, try to draw lines in one stroke
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how do i learn to draw hair? i struggle even while copying.
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>Try to do practice using recalling like anons mentioned last thread
>Make a goopy mess
this is painful
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>>6558679
don't worry about pretty drawing when you practice recalling or inventing from your imagination
you can always comeback to a sketch and refine it later if you like
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>>6558193
Why g-pen though?
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what would happen with those huge sleeves when she lifts her arms? i cant figure it out.
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>>6558784
here is what i am going for.
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>>6558658
Seconding this, i feel so overwhelmed by it
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>>6558758
Just because the japs uses it for fucking everything
Ignore him
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>>6558658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEl8FGcMHU&list=PLC1w0JHZX_rhdv__lLHVhEoHb5j6LOvrD&index=12&ab_channel=ASG
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>>6558867
It really isn't right digitally desu. Most textured pens arent especially under 4k res. Besides having pen texture does matter on a practice level, its better to learn with pens designed for tappering off like a crow quill or g pen though.
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I can't even comprehend simple images like this.
It's over...
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deweebified study
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>>6559543
I'm a turbo weeb, but it's very competent, congratulations.

Imo, if you're aiming for a westernized "realistic" style, you should probably look into old illustrations from the 50s. Black lines tend to decutify, you can suggest form with a more watercolor look
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>>6559554
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>>6559543
"Western" isn't "hyper-realistic". The little girl looks more like a midget are your changes. No reason to also change the cat too.
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Even a fucking computer can understand this image better than I can. A bunch of rocks are able to reconstruct a similar-looking image, why am I so defective?
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>>6559621
>file.png
Did you finally break down Tracer?
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>>6559625
???
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>>6559627
Don't you ??? me. Trying to prove yourself in a losing battle is making your brain cells run out of juice faster than you can say tracer.
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>>6559630
I wish I was good enough to trace. Please, don't honor me with a compliment like that.
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finished this commission!
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>>6559621
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>>6558219
i'm a beg, but for what it's worth, it looks good anon. keep at it
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>>6559655
is that korome the dog vtuba
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>>6559727
yeah she died and went to doggy heaven
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>>6559740
>heaven
she would go straight to Satans asshole if she dies
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>>6559750
no, all dogs go to heaven no matter the hate crimes they have comitted
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>>6559753
based
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no construction method works consistently for anime heads, i have to just accept any time i copy something the head will be off shape.
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>>6559916
you gotta just keep adjusting it until it looks right, that's how all head drawing works
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>>6558008
Some trad

>>6558455
Cool. Work on modeling areas like the neck/back more, the values there can be too harsh for the subtlety the image wants to be there. But you're doing well
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I'm unsure how krenz will help me draw anime, I have been doing his perspective and rhythm angle autism for a while now, but how do I start improving on the anime style in particular?
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>>6560027
by drawing anime applying the concepts you've been learning
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Can a homie give me head proportions for an anime skull? I know they're slightly different than a standard loomis head.
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Straight curved schizophrenia
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okay i think im getting better at recognizing the subtle details of anime heads, i was studying the weird eyes sockets of takeuchi faces and i realized that eyes are pretty far in the edge of the face or something making the curve towards to ear almost parallel and thats something that i always percived on japanese drawings but never quite understand it, because it changes the shape of the jaw by making the space between these 2 shorter or compact than the usual real proportions, i redrew some faces and i can feel it looks better, anyway thanks for reading my blog.
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>>6560031
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>>6560113
That thing about the eyes being on the absolute far edge of the face isn't something I really considered until you brought it up, anon. I was gonna post something but I'll do some more editing taking that into account.
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>>6560031
Square + 1/4th
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>>6560113
you're getting less westoid, nice
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>>6560113
>studying takeuchi
here's your ughuuuu
at least you are stopping with memeplanes mindset
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Hey /asg/ which artists do you consider to make great facial expressions? It is not necessary for the artist to be too skilled at drawing, I think it is more important how the artist conveys the feeling of the expression.
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Being able to copy what you see and not what you think you see feels so fucking good
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tried cleaning up some rough figures from a few days ago
couldn't capture the confident round lines idk how he does it bros
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>>6560190
I use nothing but planes to study, i just didnt draw planes outlines here since it was just a small adjustment to my loomis anime head
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How would you go about improving this before moving on to drawing clothes and the background?
Original image refrence was rie from agent aika from a screen cap.
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>>6560377
Artist you're using as a reference?
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>>6560433
dios mio
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>>6560567
la creatura...
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>>6560433
try to finding references and see what you can improve
https://www.dreamstime.com/woman-shirt-leaning-table-looking-away-office-woman-shirt-leaning-table-looking-away-office-space-image119776386
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-office-woman-leaning-desk-legs-crossed-full-length-shot-pretty-smiling-blond-against-her-back-looking-image54887863
https://www.bvdssej.ga/ProductDetail.aspx?iid=64097596&pr=65.88
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I wish I could draw cute anime girls making cute poses like this
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>>6560765
I can draw cute poses that anime girls do
asian diff
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Who draws the best booba?
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>>6560777
That SJW's on the low end, for starters.
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>>6560779
>eu03
>SJW
What did I miss?
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>>6560773
pyw
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>>6560781
You missed the entirety of him throwing MikeZ under the bus.
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>>6560783
The dude was a piece of shit through and through. Not siding with him is hardly being SJW.
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>>6560788
You don't know a goddamn thing about what happened, you slimeball.
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>>6560789
And you do? Did you work with him?
>Slimeball
Lmao.
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>>6560789
Hi mike
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>>6560793
eu03 is a backstabbing slimeball who deserves to be replaced by AI, yes.
>>6560794
Mike is too busy with his lawyers to waste time here.
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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>6560796
>Replaced by AI
LOL. LMAOOOOOOOOOOO.
I agree that MikeZ committed the horrible sin of mocking the holy negro that Americans worship and that his creepo autismo manners pissed off the vaginas in the studio and everything was blown out of proportion because identity politics and leftards run the country.
MikeZ is a very good developer and the one person who made Skullgirls work but nowadays you can't act like that without everyone throwing a bitchfit and making you a social pariah.
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>>6560804
nice
keep up the good work
eventually you wont need guidelines
here my freehand version
not perfect but stil good
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>>6558040
i moved onto a new computer but i suck now, does anybody know how to set up the pen pressure stuff?
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>>6560782
>>6560765
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>>6560919
if you can't do it, what makes you think I can?
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>>6560924
cope pyw
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>>6560927
I'm glad you asked, it's all right here:
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>>6560924
>at makes you think I can?
You're just an insufferable crab, fuck off from ic, anon's work is cute
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>>6560804
is the Krenz Method helping you better than other methods?
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>>6560854
music helps but pencil sucks, I'll redraw this, also asanagi's bullshit shoulder anatomy,
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>>6560804
>>6560823
Dog anons, I kneel.
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>>6560970
to straight up copy things? yeah.
i'm starting to hit my guidelines first try sometimes which feels pretty good.
still quite wonky though. slowly moving up the levels from that folder in the OP, not stressing about the details.
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>>6560993
And how is helping you to draw your anime grills? care to post something
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>>6561017
nta but that kind of practices REALLY helps with your dexterity/hand eyes cordination
>And how is helping you to draw your anime grills?
picrel, if you cant get the proportions right, your construction lines will also be wrong
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>>6561017
here >>6558786 and pic related.
how will it help me? i hope to steal all my favourite artstyles with the accuracy skills i am building up.
going for accuracy first sounds good to me as a /beg/tard, but stuff like drawabox makes me want to kill myself, so might aswell copy funny dogs.
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>>6561037
>>6558786
You just started a few months rigth, if that's the case is not bad but i wouln'd say is outstandig as methods go.
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>>6561037
>drawabox makes me want to kill myself,
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/cube-c23a21ee541c49d3a1799ef09fe42d9d
watch some video about basic perspective and start copying cubes
that's who you master perspective
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>>6561042
>You just started a few months rigth
pretty much, less than that on and off really. got my screen tablet yesterday so i'm still fighting the controls and my own retarded hand.
>not bad but i wouln'd say is outstandig as methods go.
what would you suggest?
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>>6558915
Where can I see the rest.
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For those who draw or study in traditional, what do you use to look at references? Your phone besides the sheet of paper or your monitor?
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how draw face from side without it looking like a weird snout
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>>6561075
I use manga books?
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>>6561034
sauce on this course?
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>>6561096
asg pastebin
pin2d playlist
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>>6561068
>what would you suggest?
try everything and see what helps you to understard more,faster, i think this depends more on the individual than the method itself, i seen people reading book after book and still drawing like shit most likely because they just speedread, so thats another variant. just be mindful when you study and try something different if what youa re doing doesn't click
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>>6561069
anon...
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>>6561107
alright, i'll keep that in mind, thanks for the advice.
what worked for you? can i see your work?
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>>6561116
I don't see it.
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>>6561123
for drawing anime specifically none, my fundies alone got me more than half way there, but is the small details imo that make the difference and for those i would say that better understanding of forms,planes, construction are helping me the most.
i mostly do just sketches so it's hard to tell hopw bad/good im doing >>6560113 my current drawings are better imo so there's progress, and here's something that is kinda finished, not recent tho.
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>>6558040
>>6560854
>>6560976
this took me over an hour, i like doing the line art part.
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>>6561194
damn bro looking real good.
gonna be honest, thought you were fucking with me for a moment there.
but yeah, i definitely want to learn the fundamentals. just starting with copying because the sticky and the /asg/ OP say to do that.
hoping i can knock these out quicker when i get more comfortable with my tablet, so i can do it more as a warm up instead of my main thing.
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>>6561208
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>>6561244
I recognized this after going balls deep sadly. I wanted to test out the new brushes so I'm happy for now.
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>>6561194
Do you participate in the WWD?
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>>6560113
Blog?
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another bocchi with ref from anime
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>>6561034
I don't see how left connects to right.
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anyone know how i can recolor lines i already drew in CSP?
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>>6558658
I wish I knew. If I'd known I wouldn't have given up as a kid.
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>>6561399

Lock pixels -> draw over with the color you want to use
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New thingy I worked on, tried to implement some of the stuff the helpful anon from the other thread suggested like tones, highlights, etc.
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>>6561399
Control click layer, alt backspace to fill.
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how do I go about the krenz method if I am doing traditional?
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>>6561527
it's like doing bargue plates
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>>6561531
In this video the guy constantly overlays his drawing with the reference. Is there a way I can achieve that or is that not necessary.
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>>6561536
tracing paper and/or a lightbox?
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>>6561536
use your monitor as a light table
ez
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>>6561537
never considered a lightbox. From what I've seen it can work.
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>>6561399
Cntrl u or alt u i dont remember which but it gives adjustment option for the whole layers sat, hue, and luminosity.
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>>6561208
Did that drawing on the right really only take you 1 hour. Fucking hell I might as well give up then. It takes me like 2 hours to draw my construction and rough sketch...
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Do I start with Loomis?
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>>6561638
No, copy your favorite artist over and over.
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>>6561399
lines layer>new layers>clip to layer below
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>>6561638
I did loomis and my work improved. It's not for everyone, you should consider how much form you know and if it is something you can commit to, Most lower skilled artists quit rather quick on it ngl
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>>6561667
So?
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>>6561673
great response, are you going to add something other than so?
For anyone who is wondering loomis is pushed by a lot of manga and industry pros so it's not a bad method at all.
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>>6561678
You will actually find it is often the case that pros will suggest things that aren't good for noobs because they've forgotten what they didn't know.
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>>6561688
It helped me a lot so lol. I am not saying it helps everyone but some people really click with loomis. I wouldn't suggest it to begs or noobs
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>>6561711
Then what do I even do as an absolute fucktard rookie?
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>>6561714
Learn basics of form, perspective, proportions, and obviously improve your observation through thinking about how 3d forms make up things. Ideally, have a study group or at least a study routine for 40 minutes day.

Most of the time people struggling to place stuff on faces either are symbol drawing or they don't understand measuring things.
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>>6561719
>symbol drawing
Literal pseudoscience. Biggest lie and pile of shit ever told to /beg/s
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I'm just struggling to find an artist to latch onto. I keep getting interested in new artists.
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>>6560113
>takeuchi
OH NO NO, HAHAHAHA
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>>6561726
then why can't anyone in this thread aside from a few can make good heads?
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>>6561751
Yeah? Who?
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I'm so sick and tired of it taking me upwards of over an hour just to draw a single proper head. I don't mean to be a negative nancy, but just gotta vent for a bit before I continue practicing.
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>>6561734
I've gotten attached to styles in SD. It's hopeless for me, I've been trying for years but it's clear I'll never find an artist I actually want to copy.
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I'm starting to hate my art more and more. I looked through some of the art I drew in the last year that I was satisfied with and despised it even more. The coping part of me says that it just means I'm getting better. For the time being I just need to stop the habit of drawing late into the night and screwing up my sleep schedule.
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>>6561864
Also does anyone have a guide on drawing anime-style eyes in perspective? I'm not talking about standard eyes, I mean those eyes with those weird egg shaped pupils you see everywhere. It's a pain drawing them at upwards/downturned 3/4 angles.
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>>6561800
Keep it going anon. And don't be afraid to fuck it up.

It used to take me a full hour
Now I can do it in 2-5mins depending if it's a guy or a girl, zoomed in or not, etc
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How do i do this type of rending?
I'm talking about the hue at certain places in the shading.
It's red/yellow/orange and sometimes blue despite the color not being that and it looks nice.

How does it work? I'm assuming i dont do it haphazardly.
How do i know how to do it properly?
Do i just clip a layer on top of random places and add some aribrushing or a gradient?
Is like light fall off I've heard some artists do?

What's the science behind it?
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>>6561900
soft airbrush on a shadow layer that's clipped to the main colour layer.
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>>6561800

I felt the same way, nowadays I can draw face from a solid amount of angles quickly. And since I've never stopped using references, even weird angles shouldn't take too long anymore for me. When it comes to anatomy, I've felt like at some points something just *clicked* inside my head and suddenly I grasped how to draw X or Y. Understanding ribcage and pelvis, and how limbs connect to them, felt like a defining moment for me. Now that I can manage proportions better, I'm working on how shadows form (like how muscles in legs affect shadow) and how to make my drawings feel more dynamic.
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>>6561900

I recommend to look if your favorite artists have fanbox / fantia etc. and if they release unmerged PSD files there.
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>>6561800
post your work we could help you maybe
is easier start with simple anime heads not too detailed specially if you are /beg/, then make your way up to more complex heads, but you need to really hammer it down , don't draw one angle right once and think you are already good you should be able to draw the head from any angle without too much difficulty, then add more complexity to the head and repeat.
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any anyone tldr krenz method of learning? my brain too smooth
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>>6561208
>>6561635
i started another drawing after that too without reference. me sitting infront of the tablet drawing is around an hour, not counting when i get up and walk around or check other things.
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>>6561208
>>6561244
decided to fix it this morning, felt bad leaving it how it was too.
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just noticed i made the hair too high, anyway im very new to drawing, i did 5 pages of the krenz squiggly lines exercise yesterday and thats about it
i need some advice, im kinda lost
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>>6562444
oops i forgot to ask what i wanted to ask
-how do I create the illusion of depth in my drawing?
-how does bounce light work? I don't understand
-how does kim jung gi draw like that?
-should i do more copies of the same drawing to get some mileage?
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>>6562438
>draw her naked but no pussy
coward!!
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WIP
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>>6562510
the pussy would face down from this position right?
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>>6562438
That's not how breasts work, also somehow you took away every part that made orginal apealing.
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>>6562579
Care to explain? it's just a drawing bro.
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>>6562474
>how do I create the illusion of depth in my drawing?

There are several ways to do that both for lineart and rendering.

For lineart: Try having lines that are far away from the camera have thinner lines. This is to mimic atmospheric perspective.
For rendering: Have objects that are further away both shift into the color of the atmosphere and have less contrast.

What is atmospheric perspective? Basically, it's when a ray of light hits several particles in the atmosphere before finally reaching your eye, making those particles visible. There are quintillions and quintillions of these particles between you and the object.

It's why the moon looks orange when close to the horizon, or why mountains look blueish when far away.

If you still don't understand, here's a trick to have you understand it:

If you have a hairy limb, try looking at it from the side and pay attention to the hair. The sides where hair is facing perpendicular to your ray of vision are darker. Pic related.

The atmospheric perspective works the same way. where the hair strands are the particles.

The way light works is actually really simple. Once you understand it, you will be able to untuit how most things will look.

>how does bounce light work?

You're asking very broad questions that can't be answered one way. You just need to remember light is a ray and that it bounces off surfaces. I suggest you watch some indepth videos explaining it on youtube.

>how does kim jung gi draw like that?

Years and years of experience? There is no trick to it. Kim jungi gi had completely mastered anatomy and perspective. He also had a massive visual library. You need to draw and study a lot to be like him.

>should i do more copies of the same drawing to get some mileage?

I mean, are you learning from copying? Copying is usually done to understand the process of other more skiller artists or to train accuracy. I can see from the artwork you posted that your lines are scratchy and unconfident.
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>>6562607
You should practice simplifying forms like the head, perspective, anatomy, etc etc if you want to be better equipped for understanding an artists work.
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Is there any way to escape the >flip canvas curse or is it just the way it is
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>>6562607
>>6562609
i have sculpted simplified human anatomy in my head, im just unsure how to translate it into a drawing
is there like a tutorial or smt on the thought process kim uses to make his drawings? preferably simplified
well thanks
anyway i fixed my drawing a little
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>>6562611
how is it a curse
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>>6562611
https://youtu.be/aXNbPsyFEhs
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>>6562634
Like when i draw top eyes without flipping the canvas it looks right but when i flip the canvas it looks weird kind of thing, so i had to flip the canvas constantly if i want to draw something.
>>6562651
I didn't know there's something like this thanks
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>>6562655
>i draw top eyes without flipping the canvas it looks right but when i flip the canvas it looks weird kind of thing,
do some symmetry practice.
ez
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>>6562579
Did he leave the thread? that's embarrassing.
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>>6562655
So flipping helps you notice mistakes
How is it a curse
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Learning to draw backgrounds is hard
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>>6562715
I wrote my question with the
>flip canvas
in meme arrow which means that the curse is not the action of flipping the canvas but the mistakes that i made that would not be known by me had i not be able to do the act of flipping the canvas. Get it?
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i de-learned how to draw heads thanks to hampton literally dilluting my brain with nonsense. this guy is so retarded he couldnt teach snow to melt and his drawings look like total shit. im going back to looomis.
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>>6562742
>i de-learned how to draw heads thanks to hampton
pyw pos and after hampton
maybe you are just braindead
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Do you guys have any good resources for improving copying skills and being able to draw things that aren't boxes in perspective? I can't seem to get any better at those things
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>>6562835
>Do you guys have any good resources for improving copying skills
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>>6562742
How? His method is literally just the proportions of a fucking skull.
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WHAT NOW?
I did the Krenz 632+1 accuracy drawing
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a sketch
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>>6563032
I FUCKING KNEEL ANON
I FUCKING KNEEL...
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Hadsube migu skedge
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A general thing I noticed is that people here say a method is bad and didn't work but they never posted their studies of these things or asked if their studies were correct in the first place
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>>6562438
Great job anon, keep it up!
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>>6563032
are you twitter famous? pyw onegai
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>>6562742
take the Hustonpill instead
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>>6558008
>asg/ - Anime Study General
>97.5% of posts are moe coomer garbage

Just name the thread Moe Anime study next time, this is the reason anime has become so bland and generic. God I hate moe shitters so much.
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is drawing with #000000 black a bad idea? I never see anyone do it, but it makes my art look blindingly bright if that makes sense. Like I'm looking at a bunch of lines on screen without any kind of shape being formed.
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>>6563714
ngmi
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>>6558222
>>6558243
I fucking finished it dragging myself to the finish line. It looks fucked, I hate it.
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post progress comparisons
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>>6563951
U start
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Can someone help me, how do I recreate whatever color texture he is using here? What is it called and is it possible to do on SAI?
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>>6563951
not my lasted artwork, but I made this to compare when I first learning digital art vs when I have a little more experiences
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>>6564031
>color texture
what do you mean?
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>>6564047
It has some sort of grain filter? I don't know it's hard to me to explain as an artlet. Can it be done on SAI?
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>>6564051
It's called perlin noise or grain filter. I don't know how to add it on SAI but it's pretty easy on PS and CSP.
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>>6563944
> I hate it.
good, that means you can now do your reps to improve in the stuff you hate the most.
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>>6563944
Think about it this way, You're better than 90% of asg just because you took a picture that wasnt a study to completion. Be proud for a moment then fuck off back to the drawing board to do it again another 1000 times til you git gud.
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what the fuck do i do with these krenz accuracy images? the are a bunch of disney animated animals??
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>>6564307
copy images you like
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>>6558262
Krenz vs other methods, who wins?
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>>6564356
>Krenz vs other methods, who wins?
krenz
>krenz
copy easy cartoons so you can improve quickly, do digital and overlap the imgs to check your proportions and fix
>other methods
draw from life, bargue boring plates, user your pencil to mesure everything
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Cirno looks broken but fuck it, I've wasted too much time on this already.

Study from 零@通販始めた
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>>6564452
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>>6564316
>copy
This a thousand times over until you can draw something like pic related.
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>>6561163
the vids and playlist are unlisted to avoid copyright and shit. cannot access by normal means. copy and paste link from post >>6558915 to access whole playlist.
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how do i get thsi brush effect?
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>>6564539
Use a thin size?
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>>6564539
What brush effect? This looks pretty standard for a brush. Be more specific
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>>6564539
hard round brush + smooth the edges with blur or use soft eraser
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>>6564539
tfw, i actually talked to that artist on twitter. he's not drawing anymore. but you could swear that he's only ever drawn 2 pictures in his entire. that's what is seemed like to me when we talked. maybe he maxed out his skill points on a few pictures and then quit for good. like fuck this shit.
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>>6564681
Doubt, probably only finished two that's about it. He still studied and worked autistically on shit
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Anybody have Ksuwabe's brush or anything from his fanbox??
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how i do?
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>>6564539
try to find this artist or someone who's similar's psd files and study them
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>>6560433
ok I came back to it. its still shit but I am going to move forward.
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>>6564539
this is just a soft brush and using the lasso tool for edges
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How I should copy color from artwork without .psd file and knowledge about brushes of artist?
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second time doing figure drawing (40sec)
at least i got 75% of the proportions right,
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is there an anatomy book for anime?
i need something that will just throw a bunch of constructions for me to copy
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>>6564882
taco1704
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>>6564882
seconded taco
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>>6564889
>>6564892
well this works i guess, would prefer if it were more organized though.
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>>6564814
Your line of action does not follow the figure, and the pose is way too stiff. Even the original one. Exaggerate it willingly to force yourself to think.
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>>6564693
BG is too simple. Big shapes medium shapes small shapes. There is a lot of dead space. Difference of materials between the blouse and skin/boots is very well done. Also love the style.
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>>6564918
Check out his books.
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Why can't I draw like this?
Why can't I draw at all?
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>>6564723
please study krenz, read the pin
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>>6564941
It requires a lot of work and getting feedback nonstop. Personally discord is ideal area to get it especially in vcs. Having someone sit down with you can help you miles more than self pity And no. don't do ic servers or ones suggested on here.
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>>6564814
i ain't even gonna lie to you anon, who's the woman at the left?
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>>6564955
not him, but recommend me some cool anime/hentai servers plz.
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>>6564981
I am not into hentai coom so wouldn't know shit about it
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>>6564984
>I am not into hentai coom
based
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>>6562444
Sen Takatsuki as a ref image? You sir have an excellent taste.
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>>6564931
the bg really was a second though
really this was a piece was to push me to finish more stuff
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i need to grind accuracy more it seems, having a hard time placing features, i keep drawing them too low :/

>>6565010
thank :]
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>>6564955
I'm scared of joining discord servers because of my social anxiety, is there any other way
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>>6565146
You must overcome your fear. I believe in you.
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guys, how long are you spending per copy?

I feel like im drawing WAY too slow because it can take me 2 hours just for line art alone, is that normal?
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>>6565241
Post your work. But yes, at the start it's normal, yes. You're working accuracy.
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>>6565241
7-11min if you do the squiggles ones
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>>6565146
well you have to either decide, if you want to get better then you need to improve your mental too man. There's no other way especially if you can't commit to doing krenz, in depth basic form studies, or basic proportion shit on your own getting all that right and also doing it consistently.
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>>6565241
most artists spend 5-18 hours on their animu shit only a few I have seen spend 2-4 hours
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>>6565337
ill try to post something later when I get home, I can get it to be about 85% accurate but I can't tell if I'm actually improving by spending so long refining it, part of my brain is nagging at me that it's pointless to be so autistic about it.

when did you guys start to see the benefits carry over to your own work?

>>6565346
what squiggly ones..

>>6565378
so am I supposed to spend up to 18 as well just for a copy? is it worth it?
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>>6565551
>what squiggly ones..
>>6562845
and >>6563032
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>>6565551
>spend up to 18 as well just for a copy?
LMAO!
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>>6565627
idk how to interpret what he was sayingf
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>>6565055
i know it's a second thought, but that's the difference between int and pro. everything in a piece is worth considering and you know it. don't make excuses, just accept it's something you need to improve upon and move on
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>>6562845
>>6563032
>/asg/ niggers would rather draw 633 squiggles than make one original drawing using reference
fucking christ
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>>6565675
>/asg/ troll would rather shitpost than make one original drawing using reference
my sides lmao
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you faggots may find this helpful
eng version

https://e-hentai.org/g/2496197/69f85a4997/
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>>6565967
this is amazing thank you
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>>6562717
It is. It what makes me want to give up. I progressed a lot with characters and can see myself improving more, but landscape just does not happen. Can't draw a cloud or a tree.
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>>6563944
I am comparing my finished piece to some others I picked on gelbooru that are similar and can see that mine looks lackluster compared to them. I can feel it is some combination of lines and color that I'm failing at but can someone point out specific problems?
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>>6565967
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2496197/69f85a4997/
this book is great didn't know it was in english too, ty
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>>6565967
LOL
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>>6565366
discord servers is only for normie spam
they don't talk about drawing
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>>6566034
Give up, anon. Drawing requires some talent.
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krenz you rat bastard
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>>6566034
look at the other megumins then look at yours. tell me, did you draw a single straight line in your picture? they use straights to add tension and to make the curves more meaningful, you don't have a single straight line.
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>>6566080
kek
https://e-hentai.org/s/d1eca94075/2496197-5

yep, back to gring fundies

the book is for children
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>>6566134
>>6566034
here's what i mean. and don't let the crab discourage you.
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>>6566148
are you genuinely challenged?
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>>6566148
anon, i....
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>>6566128
i fail to see how this is any different than tracing
i rather just learn to copy accurately without using a million guidelines desu
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>>6566158
it's either this or square grid planes autism, either way, you'll need to measure stuff accurately.
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3rd time doing figure drawing
still look dogshit..
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>>6566183
it looks fine though, just remember to mind the angle of tilt that the head - shoulder - pelvis are. in your study, all of the angles are more stable than the image. you're not here to copy, you're here to learn.
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>>6566183
idk desu !
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>>6566187
I think my main problem is full body, i think ill do a couple hundred upper body only before doing full body.
also i need to take some figure course(eviston prolly)
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>>6566209
you already have a pretty good flow desu. just grind it out for anatomy now, you can't get much better from these gestures.
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>>6566149
I tried to fix the picture based on your info, is this any better?
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>>6566243
Thete isn't really a noticeable difference besides her arm, that part reads much better. Perhaps try tinkering more about it in your next drawing? (Its way easier to do this on a gesture drawing)
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>>6566280
Ok, I drew an aqua as well, do you think this reads better than the megumin? I'll probably go back to sketching instead of full rendered pieces to try and grasp this line issue
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I'm trying to get my figures right before I go and add any complex details
Main things concerning me are the left girl's right arm (our pov), I'm not sure if the foreshortening is coming through or if it's too weak, and the right girl's foot that's behind the other foot. I have thought of changing it so she's just standing upright but I think that'd be too boring. Maybe changing both feet (and legs possibly) so she's in a more interesting pose would be better? what do you think?
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Why the fuck does Toriyama draw characters with a Neanderthal suborbital brow?
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>>6566292
It genuinely does read better. The silhouette is more unique too.
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>>6565173
>>6565366
These japanese servers are just full of retards too, this one even has an esdeath anon equivalent
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>>6566376
Where the fuck do you find the good servers?
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>>6566376
>>6566377
he's pure
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>>6566148
The book is fine
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>>6566376
>>6566377
that shits soulful idgaf
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>>6566216
thanks
>just grind it out for anatomy now
proko?
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>>6566034
I think the folds are the most noticeable problem in your version. they look very flat and not realistic. Compare them to the folds on the examples. The overall rendering is flat, including the hair, skin and clothes, and the hair lacks detail.
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>>6566295
Because its okay to draw things in your own style as long as it looks good, something that you weeb shitters are completely pertitrfied of doing.
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>>6565967
>>6566148
>female examples: mostly symbol drawn moe blobs
>male example: solid stylization that builds up your basic for understanding facial anatomy
Looks like another score for the fujos, as you can see drawing men is where the true gains are.
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>>6566377
kek
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>>6566161
just use your eyes
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>>6566095
discord has loads of small study groups, they just don't invite crabs and weebs who draw loli shit
>>6566376
look for artists with a discord then ask in those if people know any study art servers.
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>>6566376
>>6566377
he seems pretty harmless in all honestly, it's just shitty cows and no further elaboration. pretty sure everyone just muted/ blocked and went on with their day.
>Captcha AWJAP
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>>6566376
>>6566377
SOVL
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>>6563040
pretty good anon, good job!
>>6566376
>>6566377
unironically soul
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>>6566602
>weebs
>anime study general
...
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>>6566679
>>6566630
Soul is good composition, nothing more.
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I'm hating my colors and shading, can't quite point what is wrong.

Please roast me, and point what I'm doing wrong. It looks so lifeless.
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>>6566734
start with flat colors and not air brush
https://youtu.be/9QEGEBK6nIY
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>>6566734
1. Less overusing gradients and airbrushing and instead add more hard and soft edges.

2. Try introducing more colors to make it less one dimensional and have more contrast, like complementary or triadic color schemes.

3. Push your values to give more a sense of 3D, think about the different body parts as simple volumes.

I took a random pic off of pixiv as an example, just be more mindful of these things and you'll see visible improvements quickly.
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>>6565716
the real joke here is that krenz has been shilled here for over an here and not one of you have gotten out of beg yet. so many of you niggers have been beg trapped into never drawing your own pictures and you didn't even notice.
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>>6566777
>the real joke here is that krenz has been shilled here for over an here and not one of you have gotten out of beg yet.
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/S6147640#p6161417
Concession Accepted
pyw
>how der yu, post y work so i can dox you reeeee
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>>6566882
b-based!
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>>6566882
That's some cool rendering, good job anon
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>>6566294
I'm a bit sad I didn't get any critique or replies
I think this pose is better for the right figure, it has more gesture and feels a lot less stiff, plus the feet flow nicely into the leg
I think I'll go with this and start drawing in the hair and details now so I can hopefully leave everything ready to render tomorrow
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>>6566294
>left girl's right arm (our pov)
google img
search pose ojou sama laugh
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>>6566945
i meant to reply but fell asleep, sorry. the right arm in foreshortening doesn't look *off* unless you really analyze it, but I don't think it'd be that foreshortened at that angle. what's the profile? 3/4?
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>>6566954
I'm aware of the ojou-sama laugh tag in most booru sites but everything I found either looked just as weird or they use some weird way to circumvent having to pose the arm like that
<- this image is probably the best example I could find and even then the arm looks fucking weird, this whole situation is really wracking my brain

>>6566963
I thought the same once I woke up this morning, it looked fine to my unadjusted eyes but once I stared at the drawing for half an hour it stood out to me once again. What do you mean you don't think it'd be foreshortened at that angle? I have to adjust the shoulder/upper arm area a bit maybe? and yes, it's meant to be a slight 3/4 angle, not so front-facing
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>>6566993
>this whole situation is really wracking my brain
pose yourself and take a photo, easy
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>>6566993
i meant that as in it's too foreshortened for the angle it's in. but if i stop looking at it for 5 seconds it turns okay again. what a weird issue.
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>>6566882
>not beg when the krenz shilling started
so what are you proving here? useless you can prove that krenz got you to that my point stands about it being a beg trap faggot.
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>>6567013
Concession Accepted
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>>6566993
https://youtu.be/1bIqgudBe00
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>>6567029
didnt prove me wrong either keep deluded begs into being shit forever
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>>6567066
>didnt prove me wrong either
Concession Accepted
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>>6567037
Yes!! this worked greatly, I thank you so much
Thank you for the redline as well!! aaahh it feels so good to finally be done with this part of the drawing
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>>6567072
>>6567037
>tfw no one will ever be this excited/thankful for one of my redlines
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i just had an Aha Moment
didnt know that drawing perfect cubes freehand was so easy
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another bocchi sketch, lines tomorrow, colors later
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>>6567140
3d model right?
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>>6567146
no I used this screenshot from the anime as reference.
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>>6567162
>>6567162
>>6567162
>>6567162
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>>6567140
head is way way way too large compared to her body
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>>6559966
pls ;_;



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