For me it's HB.
If you like HB, what's the advantage of buying a Staedler over the regular yellow #2 pencil?
My sketches are messy, H6>>6849707NTA but prob the lack of eraser feels better
>>6849707Not all HB are the same (e.g. Faber Castell is harder/lighter than Staedler). There are quality issues too: some graphite has some gritty bits that will tear the paper.
>>6849703For me? It's hrb
>>6849768> having a stroke
>>6849703i like H
>>6849703dont be a poorfag and get whole set.
I like 4b It's like butter
>>6849821> get the full set> collect dust for yearsGet the basics first, learning to use a basic #2 efficiently/fully takes time already
>>6849703 I always carry a 2H and a 2B with me for different usesThat being said I kinda like how you can get a surprising range of values from just HB
>>6849703HB has great range, hard and bold depends on your force. Finally an OP that isn't a faggot
>>6849703I used 2B for everything, but recently I went drawing outside (I never do that) and making light marks with it was suddenly more difficult to do than it is at home, or wherever I don't feel I'm at risk of being interrupted and judged by a stranger. Gonna get an H or HB soon, but since the Faber Castell's 2B are lighter than the pentel I always use I'm chillin.
>>6849707Staedtler is above Ticonderoga in terms of quality, probably. I think you don't need more than a Ticonderoga or an Oriole for every day use.
For me its H-3H, but i feel like going softer into Bs soon. My sketches look like shit in Bs doe, too messy.
>>6849910>That being said I kinda like how you can get a surprising range of values from just HBAlmost like there's a reason it became the pencil of choice for every day use
I started using b2 but since I'm new and didn't yet control my strength I ended up leaving the sheet all stained, so I decided to use h3 until h6. Now that the years have passed i use b2 Staedtler and it is my favorite, I like the control that pencil gives me, I am still a fan of h2/h3.
>>6849703B2 forever in my heart
I'm on the 2B Staedtler Mars Lumograph team but I also like my 6B Faber Castell lead holder. Mechanical pencils are charming too.
amazon lost my package
>>68497033B enjoyer here
Derwent 2b is the grade for me.
>>6850240I thought it's the everyday pencil because it's balanced enough to be dark without smudging. I doubt nodraw normies really care about the range of values you can get out of HB.
8h chad here.
>>6849703For me it's 6h.>>6850683Hard pencils are extremely underrated. Retards don't go for it because they can only think>le dark and le smooth = goodThe hardness keeps the point sharpened for a very long time allowing you to do very fine cross hatching. It's kind of like silver point. In fact, the sort of ateliers which obsess over Bargue plates don't even recommend going beyond 4b.
>>6849707If you don't give a shit about anything, the cheapest pencil is the best.If you want max glideBlackwing>Hi-Uni>LumographIf you want max darknessHi-Uni>Uni Penmanship>Faber-Castell 9KIf you want max feedbackLyra Art Design>Faber-Castel 9K>Lumograph
>>6849821I have a full Faber-Castell set and have only ever used the 4H, 2H, H, HB and B.
>>6849819i too enjoy scratching the paper rather than drawing.
>>6851623Skill issue
>>6851623permabeg
>>6851729post your most recent H drawing then. I'll stick to B in the meanwhile.
>>6851735The only thing you'll stick to is permabegging.
>>6852040i'll stick a D in your A if you catch my drift
>>6852043It would be very painful...
>wildly superior to graphite>filters drawlets who believe it's 'messy'I haven't used graphite for a drawing in years.
>>6849703loving faber's matte graphite series. 6b or bust
>>6852895Is it fuck up ink if I use charcoal to sketch? Been embraced DYI art supplies lately.
>>6852931Try your question again in english pls
>>6852895I got a love hate relationship with charcoal because I love the way it blends and smears but I hate how it feels on paper and also I gotta use fixative and that's annoying
>>6853172>I hate how it feels on paperAgreed, it feels like nails on a chalkboard and has a similar sound.
>>6852895The messy part isn't that much problematic, butit's harder to control subtle value shifts, and harder for precise/small scale work.Charcoal starts to become useful when doing large scales drawings
>>6852931>>6853125Does it fuck up ink if you use charcoal to sketch instead of graphite? I think so because fixative but I never tried it so idk rly
>>6852043>>6852053Love this for you two.Imagine having a dominant art bf who bullies your art before he obliterates you
>>6849703For me, it's 2B.
I forgot how to draw
>>6855057And post
>>6849843This.Light pressure for a 2HB-like darkness. Lead's soft enough to get a dusty look. Can always blend or go darker if needed.4B is amazing.
>>6849703I'm a 4b kinda guy
>>6855032kekthats funny because the pencil and 2b share the same letter and you posted the sexy image of my waifui'm laughing and im horny toolmao
8B is the only pencil you can make a proper study with. You would know this if you, you know, attended literally any sort of competent place for drawing education in your life.
>>6855650Like a skool?
>>6855650>8B is the only pencil you can make a proper study with. You would know this if you, you know, attended literally any sort of competent place for drawing education in your life.Tell me you never went into one without telling me.If bait, then just stop breathing, dont waste fresh air faggot.
>>6855650Oh, hehe, 8B not even H, yeah just touch some grass while you ain`t masturBaiting.
>>6849703I buy F because I'm left handed and it doesn't smear like HB does, and also marks lighter so it works better for sketching.
>>6855650Softer graded graphite constantly flake and break. Enjoy wasting money.
>>6856168>>6856169>>6856171>>6856796Niggers aren't even pilled on GC1 paper or the exact density required. If only you, you know, actually went to study drawing instead of copying loomis and drawing floating anime girls.
>>6850683>tomahawk mullet>chadpick one
>>6849792Why yes anon, hrb is used for making strokes.Seriously tho.If you never heard of hard round brush I have really bad news for you.Or maybe you heard of it, but you are just too dumb to make the connection?Which one is it?
>>6857015In particular on a trad thread, you can assume people are unfamiliar with digital-centered abbreviations
For my money, 2b is the lightest I will go. I want to be able to erase without leaving anything behind, I can't do that with HB oftentimes.
>>6857144We are on ic. Whoever is not familiar with hrb is a newfag. Or simply too dumb to make the connection.
>>6857193HB is lighter than 2B though.
>>6857198Yes, that's why I said 2b is as light as I go instead of HB or H something. HB is so hard that the marks stay while 2B vanishes
>>6857195You sound like a smart kind of guy. I must be dumb then.
>>6857222I'm just shitposting. Of course nobody is dumb for not making such a connection lol.
>>6857288>shitpostingSociopathic traits ain't good for your brain anon.
>>6849821Sets like this are retarded though, since you're going to need significantly more B - 6B pencils than anything esle innthe kit. I mean its cool to have the variety to start with, but youre going to jave to return to buy more of only some of these.
>>6849703Why?
>>6851195>If you want max feedbackHow do you define feedback for a pencil? Like the sound or feeling of using it?
>>6849703If it's not 2B, it's not to be.
What's your opinion on the top 15 highest customer-rated "drawing pencils" on Amazon?
>>6863519Staedtler>Prismacolor>Derwent.All others are trash and should be replaced by Faber-Castell, Uni Mitsubishi, Lyra Rembrandt, Cretacolor and maybe Blackwing if you like wasting money.
>>6849748I've only used the Faber 9000 B and 2B and they were really smooth, expensive though, it's insane they're charging €1.40 for a single wood pencil, I've been using mechanical pencils for ages and will continue to do so.
>>6863519They're going to be rated mostly by parents buying stuff for their children and hobbits who aren't really going for the highest quality. That's going to be the case for almost all supplies of all hobbies and such.That said, it takes a certain type of person to be too anal with their pencils, so long as it makes marks and their grading goes harder to softer, I'm happy.
>>6864420>hobbitshobbyists, how'd I get hobbits?
>>6863519fuck all of that. use this instead
>>6855650only person ITT who has any knowledge of values unironicallywould one up this and say charcoal is the way to go but 8b is good enough
>>6849703If I had to pick one, like a B7 or so. If you're good at controlling pressure, and you can sharpen it, it does the job of several pencils.
>>6864431Why so many?
>>6864489I buy them from aliexpress so I have to buy it in bulk. everything I buy from China takes a whole month to get here
>>6864438>only person ITT who has any knowledge of values unironicallyYou can get an almost pitch black with a HB/2H/2B set and proper technique. There are multiple issues with too soft graphite (nothing that cannot be overcome but still)
>>6849703gtfo it's 2B or nothing you fucking pleb
>>68497032H and 3B
If I don't have any experience with drawing pencils beyond some Faber-Castell 2B & HB .5 leads in a Kura Toga (no good for drawing/sketching) would you guys recommend I try out a pack of picrel to decide what I'd like to buy in the future? I wish there was the option to go to a store and test out individual pencils from different brands. What's the best way for a noobie to get familiar with the types and grades of pencils that they prefer?
>>68665875got pic kek
>>6866587Some stores do let you try. You just need to find one that's committed enough to being a good art supply store. College towns are good for that, something close to the campus.
>>6849707Regular basic bitch No. 2 pencils smudge. Not much of an issue when writing an exam, calamitous when drawing.
>>6866805They're supposed to blend. Your pencils are full of chinesium powder if they're don't smudge at HB.
>>6866587>staedtler lumographsYes. I work a lot in graphite withbfull-ass rendering and I vastly prefer the lumographs over other brands. Tombow monographs are good too but tend to be less available
HB is the same thing as B
>>6866587Get a 2H, HB, 2B, eventually a 4B.
