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>>47602483

Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for plus: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Demo 9.10: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXxcK0t1zkJFn-5mVaX93OabUFJKrVnO/view?
Elin wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
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>>47892722
That took a while. Almost just one more month until Early Access of Elin.
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how far have you guys gotten on hardcore?
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>>47894540
Almost died before Elin comes out
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>>47892722
Functional Elona uploader wen
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I just learned that hunting quests in Elin still have the death penalty, including dropping 60% of your money in the map.
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>>47903777
"It's not wise to carry around so much money." - banker.

Now that we can easily manage currencies, best to leave excess money at home or at a banker. All bankers are connected, so you can withdraw at most towns.
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Why does Lulwy statue have such a fat butt
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>>47904410
>All bankers are connected
Quit it with your antisemitism.
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>>47905824
Lumiest artists are all perverts
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>>47905824
>>47906359
Wait till you see the Lulwy daki, that butt is absolutely massive.

Same thing with the Ehekatl daki and her tits.
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>>47907535
Nothing can compete against Jure though
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>>47908433
She's gonna get raped by tentacles
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>>47908991
You'll help her right anon? you wouldn't want a cute goddess get violated right in front of you?
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I don't understand, what does Super Accel do in E+ exactly? Also, I got a skill named "Marking", what's it for?
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>>47910618
Why not try using it?
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>>47910618
>what does Super Accel do in E+ exactly?
It increases the Speed buff's effect by 30%. In other words, it makes the Speed spell 30% stronger.
>I got a skill named "Marking", what's it for?
Watersports.
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>>47908433
I will fluff Horome's tails and stick my fingers into her ears.

I'm expecting lots of fan art once EA opens.
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>>47910826
Oh, I think I get it now.
>>47910795
I worded that poorly. I really wanted to know if it had any use, but, now that I am a bit sober, it's clear it doesn't.
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>>47908433
Yakasha will once she's worshippable, any day now haha...
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>>47912382
Will non-backers be able to play Elin now?
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>>47912382
>Elin is not about sales for us
Didn't Noa said that he intend to quit game dev if the game fails?
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>>47912628
Yes

>>47912654
If the kickstarter failed
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>>47912382
Here's the full message
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>>47912698
Neat, looking forward to finally getting to try it out.
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>>47892722
Retard here. I still don't get what 3d3-1 x2 means. Is the minimum damage 4 and the maximum 16? Is that so?
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>>47916295
3d3 is roll a dice that has 3 face (1;2;3) 3 times so the minimum result is 3 and the maximum result is 9. 3d3-1 means taking the value above and minus 1 so the minimum result is 2 and the maximum result is 8. You can guess what x2 mean.
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hi guys can i play elona on my archlinux laptop? my big pc is poof'd so I figured maybe this time I could actually get somewhere in elona

also could someone share their elona art collection if anyone has any
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>>47917971
afaik it works with wine. but i wouldn't expect it to work flawlessly with no effort
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>>47917971
Just make sure you have MIDI support (probably from TiMidity++), since Linux generally doesn't come with that out of the box.
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I'm going to Horome.
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>>47922055
Why do we have 2(Two) foxgirl races again?
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>>47922431
'ism*
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>>47922409
Because two different top tier backers pooled their wishes together and made something that's greater than what they could do individually.

Amazing what shared horniness can drive people to do.
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>>47922055
Foxgirl lust aside, the mana steal on melee hit is pretty damn good, especially on wraiths or low mana races like golem. I'd definitely consider her as having the highest power floor of the new gods because her passive is simple but highly practical and even new players can grasp it.
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>>47905824
>>47906359
>>47907535

Made for Mani's hung metal cock
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>waste 15 minutes on character creation
>don't know what to do
>Move around for 15 seconds
>a group of thieves attack you
>die instantly
>game closes suddenly
yep this game is not for me, I don't know how you autists are having fun
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>>47923883
you're talking about elin, right?
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>>47923883
man I dunno elonaplus.exe I guess
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>>47923883
Next time take the feat that lets you teleport so you can escape
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>>47892722
anyone got a link to omake overhaul en, discordniggers had to host it on discord and it cannot be downloaded anymore
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is there a way to consistently get scrolls of flying?
t. hardcore fairy player
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>>47923883
This your first roguelike?
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>>47924334
No.

Depending on what you're playing, though, it's not a problem. Like in Plus a blacksmith can reduce equipment weight.
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>>47925129
shit, i totally forgot about that. thanks
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so how much is he selling elin?
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>>47924334
High level mage shop
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>>47925632
i suppose i had to invest in that anyway
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>>47925605
I think last I heard, 20 dollars
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>>47925605
Yep, ~$20.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin/posts/4162729
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>>47922055
With cure light wounds, cover and up to 200 life which doubles to 400 with the Opatos hammer, Misaki is a top-tier recruitable.

Her counterpart Kinu is weak and awful.
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>download the moongate pack from the mod bin
>bizarre custom npcs start spawning in the puppy cave
>every tile on every floor is now consumed by a swarm of parthenogenetic little sisters in mere seconds
Did I do something wrong
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>>47928691
Sounds wild,link?
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>>47928963
http://www.mediafire.com/file/rrnqtes2szm4uv2/
I have no idea what's going on.
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>>47928691
it might've spawned the special little sister that only appears in the mansion. The one that multiplies/summons more little sisters when attached.
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This is gonna be a big ass map
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>>47929254
He's not doing every country right?
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>>47929818
It's just north tyris. The geography for mayroon, South tyris and zanan has been built, but is inaccessible.
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>>47929818
I think one kickstarter or changelog post mentioned that other continents might be updates after EA
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can i play this if i don't know any japanese
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>>47930619
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My wizard keeps dying to traps in the puppy cave. What do I do if I don't want to get RSI pressing enter every single time?
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how "locked in" am i on character creation?
can i for example eventually learn magic as well as anyone else if i start as a warrior?
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>>47930893
In E+ it's basically just your race and nothing else, you can do whatever you want afterward and be fine
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>>47930941
are there any feats that are just way better than others
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>>47931039
>damage
i don't know, since i don't usually take feats to do damage. there's plenty of ways to kill things without offensive feats. however, i've heard good things about violent garden, which you get from magical plant knowledge
>pets
cheer for buffing, knockout for capturing
>defense
hypnotism and dimension move
>utility
gravity control can give a big speed boost if you can afford the sp cost. at 40 tactics, string assassin will let you pull and bind enemies which is good for melee builds
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>>47931091
thanks anon. are the feats i get fixed at character creation or can i get more (all?) of them by leveling up later
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>>47931122
you get a feat every 5 levels, so don't worry about it too much
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>>47930873
Stop going in dungeons without detection skill
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Anyone using the Beautify mod? Am I supposed to edit the sheets in graphics folder manually? Adding them to the user folder does nothing.
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>>47931185
Thanks.
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>>47929054
Younger sister supremacy. All will be consumed of the Void.
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>>47931305
the user folder is for custom monsters and player sprites. you'll have to overwrite or edit the sprite sheets in graphics
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I completed the Puppy Cave quest. I feel accomplished but directionless with no sense of purpose. Do I focus on story quests now?
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>>47933098
You could, but there's some areas that you really need to prepare for, so goofing around and dungeon diving for better gear is never a bad idea.
This time around, I really wanna try making my pet the best she can be. Also man, I never realized how lewd evochat is now.
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>>47933212
All the gear I pick up are really bad, am I doing something wrong?

By the way, anyone know where this is?
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>>47933522
>Am I doing something wrong?
Almost all the gear you'll ever find is randomized, so it's all about that luck stat. Better luck improves your chances of finding unique gear and getting good loot.
>anyone know where this is?
Looks like it's somewhere northwest. There's too much snow for it to be in the north near the Younger Sister Mansion.
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>>47932612
Nta but how do you properly edit the sprite sheets? are you supposed to use photoshop?
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>>47933622
It's easier if you do since you can use alignment tools to make sure your sprites occupy the right square, otherwise you could just use MS Paint. I wouldn't recommend using MS Paint though.
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>>47933566
Good to know, thanks for the tip. Took 30 min but I found the treasure.
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>>47933522
I've been trying to look for this. It might out of bounds, but this is my guess it is far right of the map. Almost at the border.
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Anyone know where Jack the pixel artist went? he was pretty active around 2019 and then just vanished from the internet
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>>47933731
It was actually right here. Strained my neck looking for it
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What is that mod that does show the skills on the screen?
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Are there any high-definition, 3D realistic graphics packs?
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>>47936638
The skill tracker? You just go into the character menu, scroll down to skills, and then hit the * key on a skill to track it.
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I miss PCCanon...
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>>47937250
Let the old legends lie, and create new ones in a month's time. A new era is beginning.
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hey people, I stumbled upon this while by watching sseth video on it. Any idea which variant gives honest slav experience? Elona+ or oomSESTepNC?
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>>47937816
E+ has an extended tutorial for newbies, you should probably start there
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>>47937816
https://gofile.io/d/1hxG9P
oomSESTepNC is less newbie friendly,but it does have it's charm.
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>>47937338
But who would I nag to make my custom PCCs?
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>>47939918
Bee the change you wish to see in the world, anon!
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>>47940000
Nooooooooooo! It's too haaaaaaaaaaard~
I don't even know where to begin designing the clothing and its details
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What class has the most fun gameplay?
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>>47941440
I personally always pick the claymore even though I know it won't hold in late game
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>>47911055
I thought Yakasha will be the game's main antag?
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>>47941525
Noa said that Yakasha and Elin might be worshippable, depends if he feel's like implementing them. But yes she's probably the antagonist
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WHY DO I KEEP MISSING ALL THE TIME?!
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>>47943154
ranged weapons all have an ideal range and fall off hard outside of it. if you're melee, then you might be dealing with something that has very high evasion (DV). rods, spells, potions, and some abilities will always hit. otherwise, just keep training your weapon skill
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>>47943154
What are you fighting? Some monsters (bats and such) are very hard to hit. Special actions like Touch of Sleep are useful against them.
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>>47943320
>What are you fighting?
Everything. Fucking hedgehogs, ghosts, ghost hedgehogs. It's just miss after miss. I feel like I'm playing Morrowind.
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>>47943479
all of those things have high evasion. just blast them with rods or something else that auto hits. they'll go down fast
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does the special meal buff affect growth from eating food?
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>>47943479
You could try using a twohanded weapon. The Two Hand skill gives a nice accuracy bonus. Probably not enough to help with extra-evasive stuff like rats and bats, though.
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>>47941440
Snail tourist.
>>47943154
You never miss when you use magic, anon. Managed to kill Zeome in under a year by having him chase me around the arena while my erotic childwife pelted him to death with arrows. I strongly recommend dumping all your stat boosting bullshit to your favorite pet and focusing on playing support. At least that way you won't have to deal with missing attacks personally.
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>>47909980
Of course I would! Only I am allowed to violate her
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this ability is fucking ridiculous
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>>47944274
Violent garden is even worse, it poisons and doesn't have a chance to hit yourself.

Spact damage falls off by midgame though.
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>lost my hardcore fairy to mana absorption because i read spellbooks nonstop
i feel like a fucking idiot. no more hardcore for a while
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>>47944626
This picture is making me laugh. Thanks.
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>>47944626
>spoiler
I died multiple times reading a gorillion contingency spellbooks too, but I was on normal so it's okay.

RIP fairy
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>bloated
>distended
>wetting!
Please keep your fetishes out of videogames.
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>>47945854
assuming you're actually upset, i suggest you use a tight rope
>wetting!
i'll give you that one though, i turn that shit off
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>>47943154
If you hate missing, then play a mage. Magic never misses, although it does fail sometimes depending on a bunch of factors mostly which you can control.
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>>47945854
>>47947365

To take this topic seriously, where and how these things are presented matter. If you look at vanilla and Elin, the funny fetish stuff is told through fairly subtle means: leashes to keep pets close, whips to change people's jobs, torture equipment to train defenses by being hit. It's subtle, a lot is left to the player's interpretation, and is genuinely funny when you cuddle a catsister and she cums on the spot - I mean, lays an egg.

The most egregious fetish stuff in Elin is the snail torture club, which is in a corner of a casino you have to go out of your way to find.

Compare this to piss being tracked all over cities, npcs wetting themselves left and right, and yelling "do not look at me!" It's all so heavy handed and tiring. Or the mind-numbing tedium of being forced to pickpocket socks for the sock fetishist.

It's not just the presence or absence of things, it's also a matter of presentation and obtrusiveness. If I can see the author giggling behind the curtain thinking how much of a clever boy he is, that's the red line.
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I was doing some random hunting quest and one of the monsters gave me a fucking brain parasite. What do I do? I tried drinking poison but it didn't work. Should I kill myself?
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>>47948120
See pic related,straight from the 2.24 changelog
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>>47948120
It's yet another of the piss dog's brilliant ideas. You need to take nerve or lightning damage to cure it. Of course, there is no reliable way to do this to yourself.

That being said, it should deal nerve damage upon emerging, so it should cure itself then. I think.
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>>47948181
>>47948184
>take nerve or lightning damage
Fuck. Hope there's something in the Machinery Fort that can help me out.
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>>47948181
Brilliant shit ano
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>>47948226
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Cockatrice
Wow,so hard..but yeah it's kinda bs to find out which monsters to target to figure out how to deal with that
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>>47948226
It's what happens when a project is long past its expiry date and ideas are in short supply, yet it's kept lurching on because its creator simply won't let it rest.
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Dumb question but I've been finding these random bags of godly equipment laying around. It usually comes in groups of 3. Anyone know what the hell that's about? Other dead adventurers dying while exploring the dungeons? It's really good money, but I'm surprised at how many times I've found (godly) gear lying around.
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>>47948278
Destiny trigger
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)/1.90_-_1.99#1.995:_detailed_changelog
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Just found out that you can swim in ocean tiles in Elin. Pretty cool.
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>>47948296
>When all 7 letters in DESTINY are displayed in the top left corner
Huh, very convenient. Made getting through part 1 really quick compared to my last playthrough a couple years ago.
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Older little sister is very strong.
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>>47948100
>the funny fetish stuff is told through fairly subtle means
Funny how quickly things like body modding, wishes through toilets, and panty tossing are taken for granted since they compliment the already batshit setting. It doesn't even feel like fetish shenanigans to me at this point, just everyday North Tyris.
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>>47949308
I found my waifu's bow earlyish into North Tyris. It was a 2d4+8 or something bow, but then when I slapped an adamantium material set onto it it turned into something insane like 3d5+39. Though, if you're lucky enough to find a living weapon, it'll pretty much be good to use no matter how long you play, I think since it'll keep getting better as long as you keep using it. Get a good material kit and upgrade it and it'll shit out damage like no one's business.
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>>47950131
>It was a 2d4+8 or something bow, but then when I slapped an adamantium material set onto it it turned into something insane like 3d5+39
that's cool, but you wield stat sticks for their stats, not their damage
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>>47949308
World's your oyster. You can stick anything you could hold in your hands as a makeshift ranged weapon, so there's a wide choice. On my caster runs I like to stick a shield tonfa or sealed shield in there. You could also get something like a living weapon and fill it with resists.

For ammo, you need to look at material intrinsics, I tend to go with dragonscale because most stat and skill bonuses simply get outscaled.
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>>47948730
It's less that older younger sister is strong and more that she has access to intonation of chaos, and chaos is absolutely busted as an element.
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>the current Japanese version says "parasitized" because they didn't appreciate the joke
They who?
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>>47952777
The original Japanese in vanilla was "parasitised". Then the vanilla translators did the "pregnant" joke, and made a big deal out of it. Then ano noticed when he was doing the brain parasite thing, and squished what he saw as a tasteless joke.

There are a bunch of things that come from the original vanilla translators, which is why there's a vgcats reference by bards, which in turn the comic was referencing an Eminem song.
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>>47953473
>pregnant
Host.
>impregnated
Implanted.
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>>47953473
>>47953605
It is not an Alien then, there are no Aliens?
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>>47953631
The only alien is him
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i just discovered autopickup and no drop. it's the dawn of a new age
pic unrelated
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>>47957695
Is Kumiromi really an alien? I know that he has some connection with tentacled creatures, but not really know what's the lore behind that.
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>>47957839
His Elin bio states that he and his brother travelled through the universe as spores before landing and taking root on Ylva, so yes he is an alien. Technically.

Ylva museum materials note that he arrived during the third age, and that his "natural" form is that of a big tree.
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>>47957971
I wonder if we'll ever meet his brother
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>1 month left until elin release
>most places still incomplete
>player sprites still ugly as fuck
N-nyo,wish we could use those single frame pretty sprites NPC/enemies use
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>>47959563
>still no weapon and armor crafting
Tho I guess that's what the quality and trait system is gonna be for
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>>47959563
Can NZ even do PCCs?
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>>47959653
NZ?
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>>47959668
Elin's main artist
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Hey bros, how sick is Elin going to be? It's been years since I've been this excited for a video game. What kind of character are you guys going to play?
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Man, I have been on the jay since its creation and I have seen these threads for years but never played the game, how does it compare to caves of Qud?
Can I play as a tentacle monster chad rapelord
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>>47960178
Infinitely better because it's not made by a Jewish furry communist who threw a fit because a political party xir didn't like won an election.
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>>47959596
Weapon and armour crafting are not going to be things aside from the starter recipes which are there to get you started. In fact, they were removed just before alpha opened.

Plan seems to be for players to find gear through loot and then enhance those with crafting.

Living weapons and armour are already in the game.
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>>47960246
>Living armor
fucking finally,always found weird how we cant have as much customization with armor just like weapons in elona+
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>>47960246
>Weapon and armour crafting are not going to be things aside from the starter recipes which are there to get you started.
What's the point of mining ores then, just furniture? I really don't get the point of this from balance standpoint, most materials are ass and you can just buy weapons from blacksmiths / black market vendors.
>In fact, they were removed just before alpha opened.
Ye but back then the message was it was too complicated and it used too many crafting machines not that it was gonna be removed forever.
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So Elin is basically elona+Graveyard keeper?
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>>47960224
lol really?
I usually just pirate games disregarding whatever mental illness the devs may have and judge the game on its own merits, but now I'm reading he included unkillable queer furry shit?
The game ain't bad, but I'm only like 20 hours in
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>>47960386
I didn't play Graveyard Keeper, what are you implying?
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>>47960178
>Can I play as a tentacle monster chad rapelord
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Eulderna
>Eulderna is one of the most ancient races in Sierra Terre. Egoism and elitism dominate every thought behind actions of these perfectionists.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Sleep#Elona+
>It's also possible, through the use of the "Squeeze" special action, to begin "forced sleep sharing" while sleepy and on a double bed (any bed with a higher quality than the sleep sheep itself).
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Ether_Disease#Elona+
>Melee and ranged physical attacks have a 12.5% chance, or interacting with an NPC have a 2% chance of causing the tentacles to attack the target, dealing character level-dependent damage to the target.
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>>47959653
Yes, it was one of the wishes that backers at a higher tier could make (minimum 80k yen, or $500+). There's 5 in the game.

https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Verna
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Wini
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Mesherada
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Kiria
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Gaki
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>>47960761
Hhhssshaaaaaaaa!!!
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>>47960545
See the history of the pu(o)tus templar. The Jews threw a fit that Trump won and made a faction of racist Christian chuds obsessed with true-kin-ness. Of course, the templar got popular, with people wanting to play as them, which made the furries throw even more of a public shitfit.

There's also a bunch of other heavy handed stuff like the whole bey lah questline.
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>>47959769
which one has more SOUL?
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>>47960934
wtf was Yakasha planned back in 2014 already
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>>47960938
Maybe he quitted before she could be implemented as the 8th god?
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>>47960934
I liked MT too but his dudes are a bit too...sharp
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>>47960948
HOLY SOVL
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>>47960948
Meant to post this
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>>47960934
>Ehekatl drawn as a titty monster
CANON
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>>47960958
Of course
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>>47960934
Reminder that the red eyed deceiver chick fucks this dragon thing on the left
>>47960948
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>>47960822
Goddamn this should've been all our PCCs
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>>47960012
I was going to do another claymore run but Noa removed them so now I'm stumped
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>>47960984
Silver eyed witches dont exist in elin? really?
>>47960975
you could try using them as pcc, if only they came in 48x32 resolution so you could fit them in the pcc sheet

Unless Elin comes out with more modding tools
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>>47960989
>Silver eyed witches dont exist in elin? really?
claymore class doesn't exist, the are still npcs
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>>47960970
Funny thing is that "red eyed deceiver" was a fabrication of the translators and noa was pretty upset with it, saying that it made her sound like a villain. According to him, the correct translation of her title would be "red artificial eye".

You can learn a bit about her and Corgon as they show up in Elin as kids and help you found Vernis.
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>>47960989
I think the enemies still exists just not the class, the new sword sage class seems interesting but I don't know about the whole talisman thing though.
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>>47960970
It's ok, you can fuck her loli version
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>>47961012
i can fix her dragon obsession
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>>47961007
What's her new name in Elin?
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>>47961014
Speaking about the dragon how are you even supposed to train it in Elin, just feed it lots of Endurance food?
I'm really at a loss how are pets with no slots supposed to survive against magic
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>>47961022
you cant gear pets in Elin? first time i have heard that
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>>47961039
You can but I think it has only like 4 slots
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>tfw playing as a male claymore
Fuck the police.
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>>47961056
there was actually one in the actual story
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>>47961094
I'm pretty sure there were bunch of them
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>>47961022
High level damage is really just unbalanced atm. Anything above level 50 is here be dragons territory.

Corgon can use his massive 240 life to tank magic damage up to that point.

Ultimately though, the best tanks in the game rn are the maid fox and misaki who can get 400 life when wielding the opatos hammer.
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Is there any way to hide your "armor" like in elona? even when stripping naked i still have cloak/boots and such

one workaround i have found is making the sprite completely transparent,deleting the cloak,but doing it for every piece of gear sounds tedious
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>>47961019
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Quruitzia

>>47961022
>>47961039
>>47961043
Lol okay let's clear things up. Corgon is a giant meatshield/meatbag, with 260 life (the other anon has 240 life somehow...?). He's a tank not because of defensive stats per se, but the sheer amount of hp enemies have to burn through. However, I don't care for mine and I just let him chill at the base. Yes, he only has 4 slots (torso, necklace, 2 rings).

For other pets in Elin, they're geared traditionally with the full equipment loadout of the PC. You just have to give them the gear and they'll equip it based on what they think is best (obviously I don't trust them so I usually forcibly take away their gear and give them certain gear because I actually know what they need, and they just equip based on some internal measure or metric... possibly value?).
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>>47961159
Go to a dressing table.
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>47961019
>>47961177
Tbh the JP page might be better. Just Google Translate it:
https://ylvapedia.wiki/index.php?title=Elin:%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%83%84%E3%82%A5%E3%82%A2&setlang=ja

The JPbros are actually putting in the hard work to set up the Wiki.
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>>47961177
>but the sheer amount of hp enemies have to burn through.
I mean once mages start getting level scaled that's literally like one or two more hits before getting oneshot without resists tho I guess at the end of the day you just need reliable way to silence or kill them really fast
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>There are gods pcc in the game folder
cute
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>>47961177
>>47961182
>husband
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>47961216
Are those static PCCs or proper?
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>>47961244
Proper, Elin>Package>_Elona>Actor>PCC>Unique
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>>47961177
Oops. Thought it was 240 for some reason.

And yeah. NPCs have slots according to their races, and the associated gear restrictions for fairy. Mutants (you can find some as rng adventurers) also grow limbs like the pc.
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>>47961259
Interesting, NPCs usually only have static PCCs
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>>47961274
maybe those are just freebies thrown in,pretty sure NPC sprites are elsewhere
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>>47961292
Is it so we can RP as the gods?
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>>47961315
low IQ roleplay
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>>47960989
>Unless Elin comes out with more modding tools
That's a guarantee. I bet that first month, we'll see so many mods (PCC, gameplay, QoL, etc.). Just comes along with the Steam workshop which is great.
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>>47961417
Unless we could get the gods as followers, I don't what else to do with them
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>>47961500
Not happening. To give an example, I summoned in Ehekatl with the dev console and she had 20k as her highest stat. I have a character who has been running for 15 in game years and he has 650 or so magic. In order to recruit a unique, you need charisma higher than his highest stat and to beat him in a duel. Practically speaking, this is not happening.
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are there configurable hotkeys for elin? doing everything with the mouse feels so slow
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>>47961904
A mad man will rise up and subjugate the gods
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>>47961912
This, pretty much my main problem with the game outside of the isometric perspective.
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>>47961904
I didn't try but can you turn meals you created into cheese by putting them in fermenting barrel?
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i don't know what happened but my wizard of elea isn't using her custom ai anymore
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>>47962269
did you took her out of dojo/discarded ranch? it resets her ai i believe
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>>47962312
no, but i put her in a tag team at one point. i think it broke her ai in some way
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>>47962397
Oh yeah thats gonna do that,reset its AI or reactivate it
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>>47962256
No. So just for clarity's sake, I'll break down some of the various related tools.

If you put foodstuffs (hearts, offals, corpses, etc.) that are NOT rotten yet into a "compost box", they will eventually rot INTO fertilizer (used to accelerate crop growth and increase produce, or can be turned into defertilizer to freeze plant growth).

If you put foodstuffs into brewery barrels (let's say, same as before), they just simply rot into... rotten versions. (So they become worthless.) If you put certain things into brewery barrels though (bonito flakes, sugar, mushrooms, etc.) that are also foodstuffs, they ferment into wine, which generally ship for a lot of money (or just drink).

If you put foodstuffs (say, same: corpses, hearts, offals) into aging racks, they simply rot and become worthless. But certain things (like, say, mushrooms) will ferment into cheese, which can be used in foods and carry the identical attributes over but with a -1 PER ("Stinky"). Generally this can be offset if the food itself has some scent (+x PER modifier) to cancel this out.
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>>47962405
neither toggling nor reinitializing fixed it. i bet my other pets are broken too. fuck tag teams, i'm never touching them again
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>>47962421
Thanks, I don't see how you get CHA that high without hundreds of years then, farming really slows down eventually. At best maybe some ultra high quality putit corpse from the void?
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>>47962432
i found out what the problem was. if your pets aren't set to onslaught, they won't use their custom ai
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>>47962440
I'm guessing you're the same anon. I did a bit more searching and reading on the Wiki and have the answer.

So the attached picture is generally what we'll refer to as "raw foodstuffs". Makes a lot of sense too because, like, I've never seen a "flower cheese" or "offal wine". And obviously things that cannot rot are excluded from the discussion entirely (like putit corpses will never rot). For clarity though, hearts, offals, and corpses CAN be turned into fertilizer via the compost box because... they just rot. But they can't be processed into the other things, like wines, cheeses, jerkys. Idk about flowers.

There's one more station I forgot about because I don't use it, but the "drying brick" makes jerky. You can see everything here:

https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Creating#Processing_Stations

Scroll down and look for: drying brick, aging rack, and brewery barrel. (Again, compost box just includes all of that and a few more things since they just rot into fertilizer.)

But drying bricks only include "raw foodstuffs" in the attached picture, aging rack only includes the same thing, and brewery barrels includes all of that ALONG with: mushrooms, api nuts, and crim berries.

>Thanks, I don't see how you get CHA that high without hundreds of years then, farming really slows down eventually. At best maybe some ultra high quality putit corpse from the void?

Honestly, it's not that bad. Going into the thousands will be a massive grind, but hundreds is okay. I had to grind to 80 to recruit a specific adventurer even.

Look here first: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Food

Anything with modifiers in the "Raise Charisma" line will train your charisma. You can also target grow crops to gain traits in the "Rich Collagen" line too ("Raise Charisma" stacks additively on top of each other, but "Rich Collagen" doesn't, and just takes the highest). So you could, say, grow mushrooms (specifically brown mushrooms), carrots, tomatoes, etc. They already implicitly train charisma as per the chart, and you can just keep repeating the base plant until you get seeds with "Rich Collagen". Then during harvesting, throw half of them into the aging racks. When they come out, you can now cook the mushroom with mushroom cheese, for example. Or at higher cooking levels, cook mushrooms + carrots + tomatoes ("stewed vegetable" dish) for even more stacking charisma.
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what are some good ranch candidates?
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>>47962622
ehekatl
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>>47962622
>>47962642
>>47962653
Rats to marry to raphael for free items, ranches are quite obsolete in plus latest version
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>>47962669
that's an interesting idea, i think i'll do that
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>>47962454
Pretty surprising nobody knew about tactics resetting custom AI until now
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>>47962642
*miromi
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>>47963043
Why would an alien fall in love for such a dumb life form?
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>>47963682
Cats... Why are they so cute?
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heh.... not even close.........
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>>47963682
He isn't. They broke up after the start of her Flowers for Algernon arc.

Fandom still draws them together, because fandom.
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Is there any reason NOT to learn every single skill and become a jack of all trades, using swords, guns and magic on one character?
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>>47964820
yes, time
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>>47960957
Elinbros.... Can we kill GODS. I heard this game was in development years ago, and was wondering if this game would allow some crazy shit, like fighting and killing gods? Can we torture people?
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>>47965149
If they do, I hope they do it properly:
>fight a god
>prolonged battle that lasts 2 irl hours
>finally defeat him with your 200d666 damage weapon
>about to celebrate
>corpse vanishes
>god appears behind you at full health
>"heh. not bad, human"
>disappears
>drops a single gold coin
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>>47965149
I don't remember if gods are summonable right now, but eventually yes.
>Can we torture people?
You can torture allies, it trains their stats
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B-bros... Will they keep their promise?
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>>47965666
Those tentacles shall never touch m'lady!
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>>47960369
>What's the point of mining ores then
You use those to craft and enhance your skills. The better the skills, the better the results.
>most materials are ass
That's why after you use them for crafting, you sell them to NPCs for oren or send out shipping for gold bars. Loytel's debt payment system just got implemented. You will always need as much oren as you can get as well as ship as much shit as you need to get gold bars. You can't have too much of those if you want to keep enhancing your base and getting stronger faster.
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>>47965149
The available "god killing" challenge you can attempt in the beta playtest is you can try to kill the level 1600 sealed "evil" god in one of the static maps.
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>>47966330
Innos Tu'ras was beaten by the Seven Pillars of his day and sealed in a can. Man's extremely weak with only a thousand or so stats, has nothing but bump attacks, and Japanese streamers have beaten him at pretty low levels just by kiting him.

He feels really unfinished.

As I mentioned above, the actual gods have stats in the tens of thousands when summoned via dev console, so it's probably not happening because people would get bored grinding up to that point. That and they have nothing special about them right now anyway.
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I am so excite for Elin anons, still can't believe we're even getting an Elona sequel. Holy f.u.c.k. Going Juere Sword Sage.
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>>47966317
>You use those to craft and enhance your skills.
Ok but if you can't craft weapons or armor then the skill is kinda pointless?
>The better the skills, the better the results.
But it's not like the result influences anything apart from the value. A godly chest still has the same amount of storage, godly crafting thing still has same efficiency and speed.
The only thing maybe it would be worth it carpentry for the kingly beds for plot value but that's still not blacksmithing.
>That's why after you use them for crafting, you sell them to NPCs for oren or send out shipping for gold bars.
In the time it takes me to mine I could pick up another randomly generated item that will be worth way more
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>>47966824
>Elona sequel
DIE
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>>47966870

Yes I know, *prequel, however it remains a sequel in my soul.
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>>47966865
nta but don't forget Noa wanted to change the way crafting works. I don't remember if he is doing it now and it will launch with the EA or if he starts working on it during the EA. You should see it if you look at the progress updates
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>>47966870
What happened to those guys anyway?
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>>47966865
Nta but I'm glad that this game avoids the same old mine/craft game loop that Minecraft, Terraria, etc fall into. I don't want to fall into a tired old loop of mine material to make gear to get to next tier of material to mine ad nauseam.

I actually like crafting being for goods and decor, and while the prices do need to be balanced the profitable items do bring in more money than endgame artifacts outside of speed rings, etc. Lockers, foreign doors, ship boarding planks are all ok cash makers for their inputs.
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>>47965149
you can do that in plus and much more,why wait for Elin?
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>>47966824
Why is this dumb bitch using a scythe instead of gun/bow?
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>>47967994
Scythe is a statstick. Look at what she's holding in her other hand, that's her real weapon.
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>>47968000
I literally cant tell what it is
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>>47968000
Wh-whoa!
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Fuck black angel (And black cat female evo)
Befriend golden knight
Marry Exile (Male evo turned into a female with forbidden meat)
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>>47968082
Nah.
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>>47968354
i dont remember this NPC
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>>47966528
>Japanese streamers have beaten him at pretty low levels just by kiting him
How do they deal with his regen, just outdamage it?
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>>47968464
Any form of dot completely halts hp and mp regeneration. Poison, bleed, burning will do.
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>>47968486
Huh, now I'm confused. I literally had him hemorrhaging and badly poisoned but he still regened somehow
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>>47968521
He doesn't have anything except bump attacks, and you can test the dot thing yourself.

The other thing I can think of is some effect or the other lowering his maxhp so that the increased hp% makes it look like he healed. There are a bunch of ways this can happen to enemies, one obvious way being blasting with ether spells until the target gets all kind of ether diseases.
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>>47968553
>blasting with ether spells until the target gets all kind of ether diseases.
That could have been it then
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I really haven't been this mad in a long time.
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>>47968783
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Pet_Evolution#Heart_Items
>Note that heart items cannot be wished for, even using wizard mode.
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>>47968783
you cannot wish for precious items on normal game you dummy
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How far can you get on pure melee? No spells, no waving wands around like a gay retard.
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>>47969096
You'd get buffs by potions instead. Think of it like war paint. The limit on potions drunk doesn't look good at first, but you can just throw them at your feet to get all the effects..

You get a bunch of shit from skills alone that solve a lot of melee's problems, like shining wave and shadow step.
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>>47969096
evasive enemies will be a problem but there are some touch actions that will always hit such as squeeze or poison nail. i highly recommend leveling stealth to gain shadow step and shadow jump. alternatively, take the string assassin feat and pull enemies to you.
in short, as long as you have a reliable gap-closer and a way to consistently hit evasive enemies, melee is fine.
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It's been almost 8 years since I last visited this board and you guys are still having these threads...

What's Elin, also? Some sort of sequel? Or revision of the game?
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>>47969178
>>47969210
Where do those skills put the exp from their kills? What does it count as your "weapon"?
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>>47968026
It causes mind damage.
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>>47969251
each special action is different but they all have a stat that they train and scale off of. some also scale with and train skills. that said, i'm pretty sure shadow step is just a regular bump attack except you teleport to the target first
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>>47969332
It will crit if you're in stealth, so that's something.
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>>47969229
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2135150/Elin/
>A sequel to the legendary Japanese free game "Elona," which has inspired countless tales and adventurers who never returned. While retaining the traditional roguelike gameplay, Elin introduces crafting, survival elements, and base building/management, creating an even more open and chaotic experience.
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For me it's Fox Brother
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>>47969410
>sequel
>is actually a prequel
Huh?
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>>47970135
It's like how the **prequel** trilogy comes **after** the original trilogy, so while it's technically the sequel, it's the prequel chronologically/in-universe.
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>>47970135
For Star Wars, if that waswvrvn't clear.
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>>47969298
I wouldn't mind that damage.
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>stop whining about nerfs
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>>47971569
I mean what he wrote makes sense at least for now
No idea how good feedback will be after it goes EA and isn't only kickstarter supporters
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>>47971569
He'll stop doing that after EA right?
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>>47972414
it will stay years in EA
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>>47972489
Steam says EA will only be 1-2 years
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>>47894540
ive had my money in hand for a year now. its about time.
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>>47970126
Dumb question but are younger sisters supposed to be super squishy even at level 49? Compared to my little girl who's only a couple levels higher, she seems to still get instagibbed by magic. I'm guessing I just need better elemental resist equipment for her?
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>>47974185
Having +10 (or at least +8) on all worn equipment goes a long way.
Around level 50 you should be getting the hearts to evolve them with, anyway. Note that Yandere Sister's self-buff makes her both deal and take more damage, so if you evolved her into that, that might be what's happening.
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>>47974185
In addition to the above posters, Elona is unique in that levels are decoupled from stats and hence are a very poor measure of actual power. Two rorans at the same level with different con values will have different maxhp amounts.
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>>47974377
I turned her into a younger cat sister for the speed. I honestly thought the weapon/armoe enhancement stuff did literally nothing but add weapon enhancement levels to prevent gear from shattering at -20 or something. Didn't realize it actually boosted gear now.
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>>47974649
>younger cat sister
*sister cat
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>>47969096
you will get massacred after act 1
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I have two noob questions. Is there a fast way to have a new pet catch up with stats? And why does my pet's custom AI not understand to ranged attack outside of melee range?
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>>47975130
>Is there a fast way to have a new pet catch up with stats?
At the end of every episode the boss drops a fragment that you can use to up stats to a certain point (50,100,150)
>And why does my pet's custom AI not understand to ranged attack outside of melee range?
Could be a variety of reasons,like custom ai set up wrong
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>>47975130
>why does my pet's custom AI not understand to ranged attack outside of melee range?
your pet will always execute the first valid command from top to bottom. set your melee ai above your ranged ai
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Is Elin more serious? Less tickle attacks, sexy dances and weaponised panties?
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>>47975265
It's around the same, only main quest seems to get serious rest is pretty light hearted
Less tickle attacks and sexy dances though, I think special action bloat is elona+ thing
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>>47975130
You need to take into account optimum weapon range, I think. A good rule of thumb is target <= 4 distance or something. If you're trying to teach a pet a skill or something, that's just part of the process.
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>>47966865
>Ok but if you can't craft weapons or armor then the skill is kinda pointless?
Right now, it's meant to craft really good furniture for selling/enhancing the value of your base. Also, if you plan to place electric lighting in your base to control where hostiles spawn, may as well place those of high quality for higher property value. It's also a good way to use up low-tier ores to craft into lockers for selling.
>The only thing maybe it would be worth it carpentry for the kingly beds for plot value but that's still not blacksmithing
If you decide to dabble on carpentry, there is a chance to create high-tier canes (ones that deal higher elemental damage) as well as ship boarding planks for large profit
>In the time it takes me to mine I could pick up another randomly generated item that will be worth way more
You don't need to mine or chop for ores and logs if you have residents generating that for you. This also applies to farming and fishing, especially once you start claiming properties that have bonuses so you can enhance your current properties via Network system and make bases for specific purposes. Just go nefia diving, but if you do see something valuable, then mine them if you want to.
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>>47966970
Still pushing with that Elona 2 bullshit in Xitter and Playstore. Chink gonna chink. I'll 1 star it when it releases in my region.
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>pay his 10k debt out of 20M
>so much of a bum that he doesn't have anything to give you other than a massage ticket
>massage ticket fully recovers your stamina that can only be recovered by sleeping
>pay more of his debt
>he eventually opens "Loytel Market"
>all he sells is junk and more furniture
Goddamn, he is pathetic, but amusing to say the least.
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>>47976173
correction, not furniture, just more tickets
>one of them is 1 hour arm pillow ticket
if only you were a woman...
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>>47976173
Why are we helping this shmuck again?
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>>47976454
You don't have to. It's completely optional.
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>>47976454
It'd be funny if the last reward is he genderbends.
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>>47976454
Because you're a good person and are willing to help out the person who also has helped you.
Right?
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>you are able to have direct communication with noa even in pure english and he can respond without issue
AI Translation truly is gift
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>>47976798
Tranny hormones are readily available at drug dealers and vending machines, no need to go so far.
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>learn alchemy to brew potions of hero, resistance, speed, etc.
>can't
dumb and no fun
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>>47975265
Seems like it has more silly stuff than vanilla Elona, but not as much as Ano's magical realm.
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>>47977389
all of those potions are as common as dirt. the real value of alchemy is being able to craft your own potions of potential
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I need a working build with working controls of any Elona variant for Deck HELP
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>>47979857
Just plug in your full sized keyboard with number keys bro.
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>>47979935
NO!!!!!!!
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I've pirated Elin (I wanna buy it, but the fucks won't let me give them money until november) and it's fantastic. I didn't play Elona, so I do know I'll have to go back and play it at some point, but how do I do shit efficiently in this game?

Everything rolls into everything else so I end up tackling too many things at one time, and I don't know any 'tricks' that have carried over from Elona. I'm like 50ish hours in and have figured out sustaining myself with farming and whatnot, but I don't feel a lot of forward momentum.
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>>47980313
Honestly, a lot of "tricks" may not necessarily carry over into Elin because the pacing of the game is so different, *especially* if your prior Elona experience is E+ (I was a vanilla-exclusive player, so it's a lot more translatable for me).

>but how do I do shit efficiently in this game
Honestly, where the game currently is (considering your pirated version which I believe is 22.39?, and even the most up-to-date version at 22.82), it's a lot of "do what you want", I'd say? The "meta" isn't fully fleshed out yet, and the only players playing the game number at most in the triple digits. There's guides on how to get by month to month and eventually get rich, but you're not missing out on too much considering the end-game atm is Void diving. Game's still very much appropriately EA.

As long as you aren't missing out on paying taxes 3 consecutive months and you're consistently raising your stats/skills (and that of your pets/allies) in accordance with your fame, just take all the time in the world.

>Everything rolls into everything else so I end up tackling too many things at one time
I just do big projects. I spent like 2 weeks in-game rebuilding my base from scratch (looks great now). Then I started setting up my automated farm in Vernis (pretty much done there too). Next I plan on starting to build up my settlement for tourism fees in Vernis, which will take some time too.

Just do one thing at a time.

>but I don't feel a lot of forward momentum
Yeah there's nothing really driving players forward atm, exactly. It's a lot of "create your own goals" atm. As the game further develops, this'll change.
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>>47980313
Basically, you don't. There are too many things that you could potentially do, and not enough hours in the day to do them all. You may think that things may ease up when you get more stamina, but the list of options only expands.

Ultimately, you have to decide what to do, and focus on it. If I quest, I can't take care of the farm, if I go dungeon diving that means no shopping trip for spellbooks. Pick one thing for a time block for a day to a week and stick to it.

>>47980700
I honestly think noa is a little autistic in this regard. About a decade back there was an interview in which he was asked why Lomias was such an ass to the PC in the tutorial, and he was genuinely surprised, saying that he thought Lomias was just being a little mischievous.

I think that he genuinely imagines Loytel's hijinks are wacky and funny.
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>>47980313
The easy to answer to being efficient I think is just setting up a farm, making good food and duplicating it with one of those npcs due to how important stats are. If you eat shit food you will lose out on a lot of potential stat gains
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>>47980884
Would you mind explaining some of the farming stuff to me? I understand that plants take a certain amount of fertility per plant, but sometimes I can't tell what's ready to harvest or whether I should be chopping them for seeds for a while until I have a surplus. I appreciate the advice, though.

>>47980855
Yeah, I'm trying to focus but I'll decide on something like cooking and I need parts to make benches and then I need specific vegetables so now I'm monster hunting and farming and doing quests to get plat for potential.

>>47980683
I love it, but it does need a bit more focus in direction. I'm excited about the project's future once it hits early access, but something is also compelling me to keep playing right now. It's a lot of fun for some reason.
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>>47980927
Nta (I'm the 47980683 guy), but I'll try to address all your points.

>Would you mind explaining some of the farming stuff to me?
You can check your house board for your current land's fertility. This works for any plot of land you own (Meadow, Vernis, additional land you purchase, etc.). The gist is, if you're over your max fertility, when you try to harvest plants, it'll usually fail (something about how like, the crop is withered). Try to stay below the fertility cap. You can easily raise it with farmer NPCs, certain skills/policies, etc. Don't worry about this part (just stay below the cap).

I always grow around double of what I need; for example, let's say you have 10 squares of orange and 10 squares of cabbage. You'll know when they're ready to harvest/reap because when you hover over them with your appropriate tool in hand (axe or sickle), it'll say "Harvest" or "Reap Seeds" and on top of your screen, it'll say like, "Harvestable". If they're not ready, then it'll just say "Collect" and on top of your screen, it won't say "Harvestable". Note that this does depend somewhat on the crop (mushrooms won't say harvestable or whatever, for example). But the rule generally holds. I'll attach like 4 pictures showing the axe/sickle versions of ready and not-ready.
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>>47981036
Actually, just 3 pictures will suffice.
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>>47981036
For plants that aren't ready, it won't show that "Harvestable" thing.

Back to the notes, I have delegated farming set up, but talking about manual farming. If I grow 10 squares of... orange or cabbage, I will start with my sickle and reap enough seeds to start anew (so I'd want to end with 10 seeds of whatever I'm growing). Then, I switch to my axe and start harvesting the crop. So typically, say if I have 10 squares, sickling about 2-4 squares of the crop will give me back 10 seeds (if I'm lucky), and the remaining 6-8 squares will be axed for their crop.
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>>47981057
Noted, and hugely helpful. Is there a benefit to using the axe for harvesting? I think I've just been using my hands. Is there an early-ish way to start improving fertility, or just kinda get farmers for my town when I can? Sorry to keep pickin' you guys' brains, but as someone mentioned the game is in the triple digits of players, so there's not a lot of info around.
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>>47980855
>murdered a guy in cold blood for no good reason
>disposed of the evidence by tricking you into cannibalism
>made you use his victim's pets for target practice
>"mischievous"
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>>47981213
>Sorry to keep pickin' you guys' brains
That's pretty much what these threads are for dude, don't sweat it
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>>47981230
It's just a prank bro
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>>47981213
Axe is the best tool for harvesting (well, and the "right" tool too). It's kind of like if you try to gathering stone using the following items: bare hands, axe, and pickaxe. You'll notice a difference in gathering speed.

Axe = trees, crops (so during Harvest Time quests for example); pickaxe = stone walls (tower Nefias), dirt walls (cave Nefias), various rocks and stalagmites and stone and ores (mountain tiles on the overworld and in many Nefias); sickle = seeds specifically; shovel = floor and treasure chests.

>Is there an early-ish way to start improving fertility
You honestly start with a pretty big chunk of fertility already. 120 or something? You can upgrade this by going to a scholar NPC (there's one in Tinker's Camp), and occasionally they'll sell "Soil" books. Once you buy that and read it on your land, you can incrementally pay gold bars to increase your base's fertility (separate from farmers). My Soil is like level 10 and I think... my base fertility is 150 or 170? I forgot lol. Not on atm.
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>>47981230
Life is a little different in Japan.
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>>47981230
That's just a little prank in Elea culture.
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Haven't kept up with updates since the 9.X demo releases. Can you still do the thing where you could build with basically any material? I think it was a bug but I thought it was cool feature.
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this character taught me a lot. fairies and grenades are both excellent
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>>47981230
I think he might have mistook the beggar for a Zanan assassin.
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new bread?
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