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>>48271776

Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin EA (use a Steam Emulator like Goldberg): https://gofile.io/d/JiSjhh
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
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the best investment you can make in this game is giving money to the older younger sister
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>>48286772
buying a carbuncle as a mount seems to be useful as well
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Can Magic Capacity reach such a level that sustained casting from HP is feasible?
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>>48286866
I put my carbuncle to pasture given I'm faster on foot and it's eating into y lonely soul bonuses, but she's even bad as livestock. She produces eggs at a good rate, yes, but they have the [cat] tag which makes them pretty much useless.
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>>48287164
why is killing cat forbidden but dog is fine...
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what does levitate even do ?
makes you immune to traps?
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>>48287358
yes, it just prevents you from triggering traps
it's far less useful than it sounds because traps stop triggering entirely when you have scavenger 3
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>>48286676
What vegetable am I supposed to be growing to mix with meat for max stat gains?
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>>48287298
Well when you have a goddess where part of her whole things is cats...
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>>48287358
Immune to traps + you have the high ground advantage by default
If you didn't know, attacking enemies on higher ground than you has a disadvantage on hit
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I don't see relocation mode when using the build board even past level 2, what am I doing wrong?
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>>48287509
>combat geo elevation system
>when nefias and wilderness are all almost flat battlegrounds
another squandered feature I suppose.
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>>48287675
>squandered
It's EA
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>>48287406
depends
if you're using meat I assume you're bulking strength or endurance. In which cases shrooms (truffles) and corn.
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why is the butcher in the village north of meadow selling human corpses? Seems a little bit odd.
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>>48287773
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>>48284712
I did die. Only once for this statue, as it was conveniently close to the surface. Lulwy's here took me a few deaths. In both cases, the Nefia was directly next to a town (Specwing and Palmia respectively)

Basically, you can expect to die once per screen transition. It works like this: you throw the statue all the way to the stairs, and leave it on a tile next to the stairs. You go up the stairs and down the stairs again so that you're on the stairs tile. From here, you grab the statue next to you, keep it in your hands, and then left-click the stairs to go up. You'll get squashed and die, but you'll die on the new screen and drop the statue there!
You repeat this until you die on the world map. You'll drop the statue on the world map, and then can grab it from an adjacent tile, and then you can enter the tile you're standing on with the statue in hand (and throw it all the way to the nearest delivery box then).
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>>48287893
I didn't take a screenshot of the worldmap, unfortunately. But the principle is:
- if you die from getting squashed while moving from one screen so the next (up/down stairs, or leaving an area to return to the world map), you die at your destination, and drop the heavy object there.
- You can drop items on the world map this way.
- Just like in an area, you can grab dropped items from an adjacent tile on the world map, too.
- Moving super-heavy items across the map is possible, but you'll need to die once per tile (so you can drop the item on that tile and can grab and move it again).
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>Set ranch area
>Set beds
>Find animals sleeping in bedrooms
>Find people sleeping in the ranch
What is wrong with North Tyrians
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>>48287957
Livestock dont actually need beds.
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sex mods when
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The lion in Derphy is a big fan of bread
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How long does it take for the talk option to regenerate with NPCs?
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>>48287977
I know I didn't make them any, the livestock just really like sleeping in other buildings and apparently some people wanna sleep in the ranch. Maybe it's cause only one person can use the multi-person beds at a time and the others just pick a random indoor location to sleep, dunno about livestock sleeping elsewhere though.
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Protip: The home board's "Top" display shows your hearthstone level, home ranking, and area value at the top. If you mouse over these, you'll get more information. For example, mousing over the area value shows your tourism value and heirlooms.
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>get 8 pets that believe in Mani
>have each of them dominate mirage
>mirage summons bits
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Wait, stamina isn't tied to endurance?
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Does Elin have sidequests in towns from various named NPCs? The wiki doesn't list any, only the main quests.
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Im using the "show item value" mod but why is the value different in the sell box?
I even tried to sell using the price tag and the value was also different
Is the mod broken?
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>>48288314
Yes. It's determined by the sum of all skill levels, modified by your Vigor.
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>>48288348
Presumably the mod shows the intrinsic value and that gets modified by your skills and such
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I'm sure this has been asked a lot already, but how do you ensure that the villagers will put replace items sold from the sales tag from a shared box? I got them to farm the berries, and put them in the brewery barrel, but I'm missing that last step...

>>48286772
Does she always like hearts/body parts? Mine does, and that makes her whole character seem very sinister it's hot, I love my nbr, older than me imouto with a corpse fetish! I'm not afraid for my safety!
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>>48288445
I think you have to put up a commodity stockpile sign and drop sales tagged booze next to it, then move the brewery barrel into the stockpile zone. Then when booze sells, it should get auto-replaced from the brewery barrel.
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If I want to sell livestock (goblins in this case), so I need to put a sales tag on them and wait?
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>>48288476
Ah, I put my barrel outside the signs range, thinking it was just the sold product that needs to be in there. Thanks!
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>teleporters can cycle between more than 1 destination
thank god, my gold bar income is so bad I didn't want to buy more
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>>48288529
Where can you be teleported? Other bases?
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>>48288582
Yeah I got 3 bases with 3 total teleporters set up, it seems to just randomly pick one of the linked teleporters to go to so I don't need to set linked pairs of teleporters up
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>>48288445
>Does she always like hearts/body parts?
nope, mine likes meat roast and something else
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REDPILLS ABOUT COOKING AND FARMING

1. food effects cap at item quality 10
2. cooking level caps the maximum quality of the dish, level 10 quality is achieved at cooking lv100 or higher
3. dish quality is also capped by the ingredients you use, therefore you need to farm for high quality ingredients
4. farmed crops increase in quality every +10 seed levels
5. seed level is capped at exactly your farming level, i.e. farming level 50 will produce maximum +50 seeds
6. therefore the best possible food is made with farming 100 and cooking 100
7. for STR training you want corpses that don't have [Human Flesh] or [Tainted] with high quality, which is gotten from killing elite enemies in high level dungeons
8. condiments will fuck up your dish quality, so always use condiments from the casino which are lv10 by default
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What they don't give you the recipe for room plates, only for house plates, is very annoying.
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>>48288674
So the time to ditch Kumiromi is when my Faith-boosted Farming skill hits 100 and I've reaped +100 seeds for everything (they can't drop in level if I plant and reap them after my Farming drops to below 100 again, can they?)
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>>48288683
Anon they're the same thing just with different appearances.
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>>48288710
yeah if you only care about maximizing gains from food
past that seeds and crops and dishes increase in sale price the more you increase base quality
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Can anyone with a god item from the god they're currently worshipping test to see if you get the faction bonuses if the item is equipped by a party member?
I noticed that my golden knight isn't actually fear immune despite using the earth hammer, but I'm working on yetal right now so I can't verify.
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>>48288719
Room Signs and Room Plates function the same but you can easily hide one somewhere on a wall while the other is big, ugly, and takes up floor space.
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>>48288749
faction bonuses are active at all times as long as the item is in your inventory or on someone else's inventory
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>>48288722
Does that mean they go above +100, just that this no longer affects additional stat gains when cooked/eaten?
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>>48288762
apparently so according to code dataminers
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>>48288749
Just tried giving my party member Muramasa, the faction float effect is still working on me, not wearing any float gear myself
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>>48288749
That was patched out. Faction effect just check your main character's god now
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what does "you're still peckish" means after you eat food?
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>>48288812
The meal wasn't big enough to sate you for long, so you'll probably hit the hungry status sooner.
It's not a bad thing since that means you can take advantage of the hungry status food buff again quicker.
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EA 23.37 is now out. Noa is apparently getting so much feedback on the Nightly build that they're temporarily only allowing those with the 'DLC code' (Backer code?) to submit feedback.

Notable changes on the EA version today:
- Evolved species can now become bounty targets (related to Fighters' Guild contribution? They weren't counting towards those before)
- Removed minimum development value for Little Garden, allowing it to go negative. (Aimed specifically at those that kill and eat Little Sisters first before they start capturing and turning them in. Now if you do that, you do have a price to pay)
- Made mana recoil no longer reducible by Magic Resistance (probably some wacky race + equipment combo that made some people nearly immune to mana recoil regardless of Mana Capacity)
- Residents and Allies now provide XP bonus to feat points based on their favourability (-50% to 100% ; Assuming this penalty or bonus applies to you and from all your pets and lands, it means you have to actually keep everyone happy now if you don't want to get a penalty to exp towards feat points?)
- Rare enemies now generate miracle-tier equipment or small medals at a high probability when they would otherwise drop nothing noteworthy (TIME TO GET HUNTIN', IMOUTOS
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>>48288812
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/peckish
>1. (colloquial) mildly hungry
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Fun fact: you can use leftover vegetables form the previous harvest quest to use for your next quest.
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>>48288847
>Noa is apparently getting so much feedback on the Nightly build that they're temporarily only allowing those with the 'DLC code' (Backer code?) to submit feedback.
I get it he's alone but I feel like backers might be a bit too biased on the game? After all they've played it for long now, they could easily miss or ignore some critical feature that causes issues
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>>48288856
I should do this for those almost 200 kilos ones

Also you can use actual veggies you already own and produced yourself but they're not worth anything because they don't weight a lot
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>>48288863
Yeah, self-made veggies are useless for this purpose
But what you can do is to do a 30 stone quest first, do it quickly, stack up on veggies with the remaining time (you get some karma penalty when you end the quest but more often that not it'll balance out with the karma you get from completing it), then start a 100+stone harvest quest and dump your holdover veggies at the beginning for a nice head-start
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Do Derphy residents just randomly throw rocks at you? I can't help but think the fact I've stolen from Derphy the most might have something to do with it. I always forget to steal stuff until I show up here, not really playing a thief in general.
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>>48288946
I've had some punk try to draw aggro from early on
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>>48288861
>too biased
And that's a good thing. Chances are we are gonna get more Plus/Omake QoL changes
>miss critical issue
As opposed to newer players who might not have touched Elona before and just chased the fotm?
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im a bit new, what does the damage numbers means?
like
(4d4+6,10)
what is that "10" ? is that a fixed damage that happen after the overall sum?
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>>48289110
god I love watching zoomers' first encounter with dice notation

it says what they are on the stat page itself, look for smaller text
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>>48288674
high quality post
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>>48289110
The game will roll 4 4 sided dice for damage and will add 6 points to find out how much damage you will do. "10" is the to hit bonus.
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>>48289110
Rolls 4 4 sided dice, adds the result together, and adds 6 for damage. +10 chance to hit (don't ask if that's percent or whatever it's a bullshit number)
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what should i be running for inventory capacity, 4 fireproof trunks? do i spend medals on the item to increase capacity for them later on?
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>>48289145
If you really need a huge amount of inventory space and can carry 200s or so comfortably, consider grabbing the Big Wagon from Tinker's Camp instead. They weigh 150s and have 96 inventory slots that can be expanded
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>>48289162
will keep that in mind for once i train my weightlifting more, thank you anon
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how does speed works in this game
if I buff myself with speed rod in harvest quests do I reap faster?
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>>48289145
use the delivery box to send stuff to your base, the box they sent you can be used as additional inventory slots and they only weight 0.8s each
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How do I play as an evil nigga?
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I can't take it anymore bros...........
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>>48289229
cant you just lower your fame so pay lower amounts?
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>>48289193
oh i'm doing that, was wondering about where to go from here so i can have a goal in that regard
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Is there a stat cap?
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>>48287991
real shit
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KUMIROMI MY BELOVED
I LOVE PET FEATS
This shit actually carries high level pets so hard since they take twenty years to gain pet feats, time for Misaki to get lightning intonation, muh fuggin dick
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>>48288482
based goblin rancher
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>>48288861
Bias can come from both sides of the experience spectrum. Imagine opening up the feedback inbox and seeing some shite that's not played for but two hours complaining hedgehogs are unfair because he won't just use touch spells on it.

Now, yeah, there is still the risk of seeing old players too used to the grime failing to bring it up but if you had to choose some way to keep meaningful feedback going in while giving yourself breathing space to deal with what's already there, it makes sense to me to elect to only gain feedback from players that are established to understand what you definitely can and cannot do in the game. Not even a backer, sorry if I sound aggressive.

A possible alternative would be trying to cut feedback down to people who have played a meaningful amount of time with the current build(s?) but that seems a bit more annoying to implement, idk.
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>>48289145
>4
Why not 5?
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Aren't summons supposed to be friendly in this game?
Summon monsters scrolls always attack me.
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just killed my first big daddy, do i have to cook the little girl for adam or do i just eat this shit raw
>>48289558
cooler as the 5th
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>>48288674
>5. seed level is capped at exactly your farming level, i.e. farming level 50 will produce maximum +50 seeds
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>>48289564
I think you're doing something wrong. I can summon chickens and stuff and they're friendly.
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>>48289591
I tried scroll of summon monster in Elin twice and it was always hostile. It's not cursed.
Maybe the spellbook version is different
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>>48289604
maybe it just does what it says and summons a monster like the ones in the wild? As in not an ally, but a wild monster
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>>48288847
>- Rare enemies now generate miracle-tier equipment or small medals at a high probability when they would otherwise drop nothing noteworthy (TIME TO GET HUNTIN', IMOUTOS
damn low level Nefias are now finally worth doing
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>>48289637
>low level miracle equipment
lmeow
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>>48289637
More like, now i have a reason to do higher lv. nefia because i can't fucking open high level chests
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>>48289654
just got this from level 2 nefia
enthusiasm levels dialed down a bit
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>>48289573
>cooler as the 5th
brilliant
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Where are these nips getting the massive statues of Lulwy's ass?
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>>48287662
Relocation just means you can move stuff around in build mode. It's not a separate mode that shows up at the bottom.
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>rare enemies now generate miracle-tier equipment or small medals as drops as high probability when they would otherwise drop nothing noteworthy
just one more nefia....
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i have a faith skill of 30 and still haven't earned anything from Horome after 600+ days praying with the perk so i never missed a day, stealing altars, giving offerings and manual praying is it random even after i meet the requirements?
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What race should I pick for my sword sage?
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>>48289794
as someone with 50 faith that *just* got my god pet
the problem is offerings
you need around maybe ~100 piety points to get a reward
the heavier the offering the better, so find out what your god likes and spend the entire month giving offerings
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>>48289797
Redguard
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>>48288674
>condiments will fuck up your dish quality, so always use condiments from the casino which are lv10 by default
retard
casino condiments are only quality 5
> for STR training you want corpses that don't have [Human Flesh] or [Tainted] with high quality, which is gotten from killing elite enemies in high level dungeons
you dont even need it to be high quality
you just want marbled stuff from high level enemies
pic related
>therefore the best possible food is made with farming 100 and cooking 100
fucking retard if you have recipe level 10 it doesnt matter if you have cooking level 1

who the fuck believes this retard?
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>>48289797
Yerles or Juere are always good, you want something with balanced attributes
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>>48289835
actual retard
your food has no quality
you are literally sacrificing 50% of the food effect by having lv0 quality
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>>48289797
If you're gonna worship Horome you basically don't need mana making even a golem sword sage legit.
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>>48289848
i never said that you dont need to buff your crafted quality
you only need 1 ingredient to be high quality
refute my other claims
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>>48289857
oh yeah enjoy your grotesque meals and endless savescumming just to get one dish done
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>>48289862
>ah yes i need to have cooking level 100 to have 8 quality meat on bone
reply to me when you have an actual argument
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>>48289882
huh no I don't need to have an argument to reply to your retarded posts
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>>48289888
>no argument
i accept your retardation
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>>48289890
congrats on failing to prove or disprove anything
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>>48289894
>still doesnt have any of refutation from my claims and wants to win the last reply
congratulations you win the retardation award
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>>48289903
nigga you don't even have a cooking recipe that you leveled 10 times the only proof you have is a piece of chicken
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I need high level cooking and plenty of condiments in my meals so everybody will feel love in their heart when they eat my food.
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>>48289907
finally you have an argument
anything else to add?
this is level 40 cooking
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I'd like you two to start showing game code formulas to back your claims, or just fuck off.
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>want to move the gallows from my base
>left click and hang myself
>my fellow towns folk that i invited here start beating me
>one of them steals my money
So mean....
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>>48289995
this is why my entire town is a harem so if I accidentally rightclick on a gallows or wooden horse I get raped
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>>48289945
(You) can literally replicate it right now by using console commands and tell me im a retard but you wont
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Somebody on /v/ claimed there's a max piety that kicks in before you hit the 11,000 (basically impossible) faith cap, does anyone know what that is?
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how do you get accessories with pv/dv values? I've only had the ring given by Fiama with +10 pv.
Does it become more common in higher level nefias?
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How does shared fireproof blankets work? I have a bag on me that's shared and full of fireproof blankets. My PC uses it going through the logs, but my NPCs just let their inventory get burned through.
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>>48290192
you gotta supply blankets to your pets by manually trading
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>>48290200
Aw shit, I thought they work through shared bags. Thanks.
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>>48290179
the material of equipment determines its PV and DV values
things made of grass or trash materials like sand are not gonna give any defense
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>>48290226
They do work through shared bags as that's how I distribute mine. I have a bad that takes nothing but blankets and the pets reach into it to replenish their stock.

It should just require you to only have the inventory shared. I don't thin distribution settings matter but~
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it only takes a single miss with a railgun at 100 marksman and 100 gun to remind me why guns are worthless and you should just use magic instead
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Is it better to do a full party or just a 3 man totem with lonely soul? it's kinda difficult micromanaging and gearing 5 party members. And lonely soul benefits your mount and parasite.
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>>48290509
full party is a nightmare to manage and gear up and supply with blankets and uncurse and feed and resurrect and heal
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>>48290513
Resurrect isn't a huge deal with Carbuncle but the food and blanket micromanagement kinda is. I just want to have a fox totem with the priestesses desu.
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>>48290509
Totem!!!
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>>48290523
Yeah I'm thinking the same, I'll keep rolling with the party until I unlock enough feat points and just focus on gearing and leveling the members I plan on keeping
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>>48290509
Im going with 2 allies and I dont get what is so difficult
Only the tank lose the blankets and gearing depends on the role of each one
I also cook a lot for them so they constant level up
The only annoying part is fixing everyone damaged equipments
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What do I use to make higher quality beds to get my residents better at their jobs? Is it a specific kind of wood or what?
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>>48290567
making better beds requires recipes that only come from rare chests
so just do what everyone else do and use your tickets on the beds in mysillia

eveytime I recruit someone new I go to the city and grab a comfy bed
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I need to look for another Nefia with granite walls and mine those out so I can build the eastern wing to house the workshops and finally clean up all the random crafting stations and storage scattered everywhere.
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The pull of the void forces me to blog. This is my second time, about 70h in my temptation to reset kicks in, my attempt to preemptively play a meta-adjacent character to avoid stressing about suboptimization is wavering. I deal a dinky 30dmg if I can even hit my enemies, my knight and cat-hat do all the work.

Four shitty undeveloped plots, I have a hundred things to do and the most pressing is sitting on my beach making bonito wine.

Happy to play something else for a few weeks, I think I skilled up my elin for the next time so no feeling of wasted time.

Also, Does worship time affect anything other than the punishment?
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>>48290694
The higher the faith/ points you have in that god gives you an bigger bonus. Also if your really forced on melee damage maybe think into throwing or casting weakness on enemies to half PV/DV and maybe stop duel wielding? I think you take an -to hit above 3lbs? on the weapon
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Can anyone tell me where to get wood rubble? It sounds like such a basic item but I can't find it anywhere for these goddamn quests. It doesn't sound like a crafted item, but I'm not finding it anywhere in the world either.
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>>48290694
you can only blame your own autism for that
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>>48290711
I mainly use a crossbow, my melee weapons are placeholder stat boosters before I potentially start dungeon diving for actual gear. My knight deals 400+ earthquake damage so I'm mostly whining for dramatics. Also I'm specifically asking about the worship time, as in is there a benefit from the time spent worshipping, not the accumulated favor, but thank you anyway, the huge amount of discussion is the second best part of this early access.
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>>48290679
is that your base?
looks comfy af
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>>48290813
Thanks. It's still a mess but it's slowly coming along. I used to have my Kumiromi altar on the hill in the NE corner of the starting base, so I spent today on building a little shrine to him in another corner of the area (still needs better decorations), so I can flatten the hill and build the eastern wing there.
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>>48290694
>>48290845
wait
why the FUCK is your resoluton 4:3???
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>>48290859
I discovered that high-resolution 4:3 monitors are still being made but only as prohibitively expensive (>7000 €) radiology monitors, so I reached out to random suppliers of medical equipment asking if they have any B-ware or returns they could sell to a non-professional, and one actually got back to me and sold me an Eizo Radiforce RX360 that was used as a display model for a fraction of the price. (Under the strict stipulation that I do not use it for mammography.)
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>>48290869
yet you are checking out elin boobs
how indecent
>karma -1
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>>48290845
how do I make those open rooms?
if I just put 4 pillars the game recognize it as a room and give it a roof?
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>>48290877
There are a few things at work here:
You need to place a Room Board/Room Plate and toggle Atrium(On). This hides most of the walls and leaves only the corner pillars and a low wall.

To add pillars, you need to do the following:
Get a build board, and there choose to:
>Edit Cells
>Toggle Wall Pillar
and then click tiles with walls on them to either hide the pillars that automatically appear at a corner (I have hidden the corner pillars in the front part with the altar), or to display pillars in the middle of a wall where there wouldn't normally be any (this was done here >>48290679 to get the porticos).

The shrine to Kumiromi is two rooms actually. (Thanks to the Anon a few threads ago who told me about room groups.) There are both a House Plate (defining the roof in the room with the statue and “no roof” in the room with the altar) and Room Boards (which I've tried to hide behind pillars/under clutter) toggling the Atrium(On) and assigning different groups to both rooms so they can look different,

Finally, I lucked out and randomly got the recipe for the “short curtain” (that stick in the 3rd row, 2nd column), which hides the lower part of the wall that's left over by Atrium(On). I've used this for the portico here: >>48290679 and for that gap, and I've used it to hide the interior walls in the shrine between the statue room and the altar room. Finally, I used the Build Bord to toggle Visibility (bottom left, the lock icon) on those tiles to hide the Short Curtains so they've invisible now (otherwise you'd see off-colour bars at the roof).
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New update about elites dropping artifacts is pretty nice for earlygame ngl
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>>48290877
>>48290930
Oh yeah also the pillar items you can get at the sculpting table are completely useless. They don't form buildings when lined up in a rectangle, they don't interact with walls, they're basically just props (but you can make them taller using the scroll wheel). I guess they're intended for when you have a big hall or a church interior and want to put pillars on the inside.
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>>48290549
I bought some repair powder from a shop once. Dunno whether investing would let you get some reliably that way.
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>>48290945
They'd be decent if you could adjust their placement with shift or put things on the same tile. But the game recognizes them as walls so they're totally useless. Poles exist and are normal props that achieve a similar function
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>>48291097
anon... you can make them mixing junk stone and sulfur...
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>>48291124
*reliably that way in greater quantity than making it yourself, which is apparently not quite enough for you
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Where the heck can you get runes?
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is the best defense training method just hanging yourself on the gallows and getting beaten up by your entire town?
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>>48289180
Speed in Elin does NOT make "time" go slower (a snail player walking one tile will take the same amount of "time" a fairy player would walk the same distance); Speed makes the turn of everyone else around you go slower or faster (a snail hitting a baseline Yerl will be likely get punched back twice and a fairy can slap the same Yerl for two times before the Yerl can act)

Actions that take multiple turns to perform would have those turns reduced by skills relevant to that action upon higher levels.
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I'm interested into playing this game but only if there's sex. can I fuck creatures, npcs or my relatives?
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>>48291225
you can fuck anything and anyone but it's just a few lines of text and sprites bumping against each other
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do bees need flowers?
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>>48291225
you can fuck drunks for pocket change
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>>48291240
Yes
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Do you just need to have the Fragrance of Goddess in your inventory to have a chance at a wish?
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>>48291254
In your key items, but yes
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>>48290567
>Is it a specific kind of wood or what?
no you just level up your wood quality through farming
you also need spider silk for comfort
>>48290725
sometimes the requests are junk items. you have to get lucky and collect them through your garbage pile or junk gachas
>>48291161
you dont
not implemented
>>48291240
no you dont need flowers for the beehive to generate honeycomb but flowers do improve it
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named them fuwawa and mococo and gave them proper portraits
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>>48291475
sexo
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>>48288674
>food effects cap at item quality 10
Source?
>farmed crops increase in quality every +10 seed levels
My farming and seeds are at 104 but their quality is only 9
>therefore the best possible food is made with farming 100 and cooking 100
Different recipes seem to have different quality caps, I think you'll need your cooking at something like the level of the recipe+100
>condiments will fuck up your dish quality, so always use condiments from the casino which are lv10 by default
The dish inherits the quality of the highest quality ingredient. As long as you have one lv10 quality ingredient in there it's fine if the rest are all lv0
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>>48291475
share portraits, I've also made some for my snail torturer livestock
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>>48291549
holy booba
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>made a town that just goes treasure hunting
its pretty good passive income
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>>48291637
>a town filled with predatory sea captains
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>>48291549
her neck... dios mio
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>>48291692
long-ass necks are a vanilla feature
maybe noa has a thing for them
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i need an auto fertilize mechanic
this is not fun at all
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>>48291740
Doesn't it do nothing but speed up growth? Just don't even do it.
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>>48291748
>Doesn't it do nothing but speed up growth?
but thats exactly what i want though
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>>48291751
If it takes too long, it's not really saving you any time, is it?
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>>48291755
> it's not really saving you any time, is it?
i have no idea what you mean by that when you said it speeds up growth thus saving time
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>>48291755
Even if it costs more real-time work than it saves, there's also the question of saving in-game time. Gotta grind out profits faster than the taxman seizes them, after all.
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melting lots of glass is really loud
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>there is a bow for 1, 2, and 3 range
>there is a gun for 1, 3, and 5 range
>there is only a 4 range crossbow
>crossbow is extremely rare as a drop compared to other weapon types because it has only 1 weapon in its class
>crossbow is the only weapon type in the game that does not have a precious artifact
My crossbow character is dead before it could even get off the ground.
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>You come up with a recipe in your dream.
>You learn how to make "Grinding wheel".
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Are there any demigod NPCs at all, or 'extra' races in general outside the PC? I'm messing around with custom portrait assignments trying to mix it up with the more unusual races but I haven't been paying attention.
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>>48291870
>My crossbow character is dead before it could even get off the ground.
if you find great mods like critical level 30 to offset the downsides you are pretty much set
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Does it matter how big the tiles of water are for fishing? Do I need several tiles connected to each other to increase chances? I don't know how fishing or anything works.
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>>48291998
>Does it matter how big the tiles of water are for fishing
no
>Do I need several tiles connected to each other to increase chances?
no
>I don't know how fishing or anything works.
welcome to the club
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>>48292010
Thank you!
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>>48291998
this is how you git gud at fishing bro
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>>48291958
Oh shit I forgot about that. You don't have to deal with artifact RNG on ranged at all since they're just better base stats and more mod slots.
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furnitures made below the necessary skill level don't have a suffix
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>>48291937
The "Mother" NPCs that look like nuns are Succubi.
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>have delegated farming enabled
>have a farmer (which i only found out after recruiting him that it doesn't actually matter but whatever)
>have a scarecrow in a fenced-in plot of farm
>have it set up so that the produce /should/ go into the shipping chest, as it has nowhere else to go
>nothing at all happens, not even produce in random chests
the only thing i can think of is that me having put a room board into my farm plot (so that i could set it to residents-only to keep the random fucking animals out) fucked it up somehow
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What exactly are "mushrooms trees" and do they give anything different from normal trees?
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>>48292086
Not even in other chests? Are they set to shared?
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>>48292086
It takes a few days before they harvest/replant grown crops.
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>>48292104
even with mushrooms?
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I didn't expect fairy executioner to be so easy to start with. You can beat down boars with your bare hands, nothing can get through your mana regen + dodge. Fairies even start with pickpocket for maximum mischievousness.
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>>48292112
You'll see them get replaced with fresh seeds when they get harvested
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>>48292125
I played Wraith Executioner for some hours and really enjoyed it. Two-Handing Katanas and Claymores and slaughtering everything. The only problem is casting spells can be really risky as you are essentially using your HP to do it.
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How does stealth work? How do you activate it, how do you train it and how do you know whether or not someone has spotted you?
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>>48291937
Little Ones and Big Sister are Chaos Shape
Mothers are succubi
Of course there's also Roran which isn't playable
Younger cat sister has her own race, "catsister"
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>>48291937
>>48292147
oh right, and also Norland. Which several NPCs are, but I think they might all be uniques. Stasha is Norland for example.
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What do you think is better for profit in the long run: grape farm or cotton farm?
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>>48292147
>Mothers are succubi
is that why there's prevent mothers from entering policy, do they suck the soul out of your residents or something
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>>48292176
depends
are you leveling up cooking? grapes for money
are you leveling up weaving? then cotton
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My berries don't ever grow. Are the farmers harvesting them and eating them on me or something?
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>>48292228
What's your fertility like?
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>>48292244
Fertility is 58 (Max 143). It's so strange they've been stuck on no berries for actual real days. Watering them doesn't seem to matter. I installed farmerdoc to see and it says 3/4 already harvested.
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You bros interested in watching birds?
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>>48292350
Caladrius really needs to stop clucking I'm going insane.
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When's the ETA for more story content?
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Is there a place with undead enemies other than the haunted manor?
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how did she know?
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>>48292142
It seems to be more or less the same as in Elona. That is, it's a passive ability to not be noticed by monsters, it trains when you go unseen, and you'll know if something spots you because they'll start moving towards you (and possibly shout a battlecry).
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>futon quality 0 level 10 bed comfort
>king's bed quality 2 level 3 bed comfort
>only 1% difference
holy shit i just wasted my time on the king's bed
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>>48292185
I'm leveling both.
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>>48292254
So you already harvested them? They don't grow back on their own, you need to remove and replant the entire plant to get a new harvest.
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>>48292448
wait scratch that
you actually get less money from cooking grapes
just turn it into wine
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>>48292525
don't people use mushrooms since it just need a day to grow, also was why noa nerfed it
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>>48292254
>I installed farmerdoc to see and it says 3/4 already harvested
technically you can harvest them and leave them but you need delegated farming for that
>>48292543
wine scales with how expensive your raw food is
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>>48292414
>it can hold 2 creatures
Do residents need solo bedding to work properly?
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>>48292558
no
just get bunk beds that hold 8 people
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>>48292553
But they never grew back they're just berry bushes with no berries.
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>>48286676
where is the guild clerk in the Merchant's guild that sells the flyers?

Where do I use the potion + grass combo at to make empty potion bottle?
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>craft entire stamina bar's worth
>sleep
>repeat a hundred times
Training craft skills is a pain.
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>>48292674
Could be worse. You could be processing.
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Well that's convenient. Only took a thousand days with 10x accelerated recipe gain.
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>>48292590
>But they never grew back they're just berry bushes with no berries.
yeah thats fine. delegated farming will replant them again
unless you forgot the signs
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>>48292674
just use platinum coins
>>48292608
>where is the guild clerk in the Merchant's guild that sells the flyers?
one with the brown dress
>Where do I use the potion + grass combo at to make empty potion bottle?
grinder
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>>48292590
I don't have delegated farming on Vernis but I have it on Meadow (although Meadow's fields are bare currently). Vernis is where my berries won't grow, it's really strange.
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>>48292881
>I don't have delegated farming on Vernis
>Vernis is where my berries won't grow
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>>48292870
>just use platinum coins
Past +100 potency the cost doubles, so for efficiency you'd at most double your XP gain, but since you lose potency every level you gain you need be making constant trips to the trainer. You end up getting less for you time before even factoring in the trouble of earning those coins to begin with.
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>>48292889
I don't understand.
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>>48292919
exactly
your berries wont grow because they dont have delegated farming
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>>48292927
But I'm manually watering them.
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>>48287298
Real answer: it's another thing copied from ADOM
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>>48292898
>Past +100 potency the cost doubles, so for efficiency you'd at most double your XP gain
yeah but you will be painless
>you need be making constant trips to the trainer
just recruit the trainer
> the trouble of earning those coins to begin with.
brother in christ noa made is easier for you to just stand in the quest board and just click for platinum coins
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>>48292939
alright it seems you might have some problems with the mental kind

1. Anon said that you already harvested the berries.
2. Anon also said that harvested berries do not regrow unless you have delegated farming
3. You do not have delegated farming on so thats why your berries dont regrow
4. You said that you are manually watering them. Then just replant them manually.
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>>48292963
I see, thanks for explaining. I somehow missed this post >>48292475 Sorry anons, no wonder it didn't make sense. Good night.
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Playing to your livestock doesn't raise skills anymore?
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>>48293017
yes
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How high should my music be before I start taking quests?
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>>48292674
We need an energy drink item to restore stamina
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>>48293118
Can't you get tickets that do that if you advance the main quest enough?
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>>48292553
>wine scales with how expensive your raw food is
Is there a list somewhere with the base prices of different foodstuffs?
Also, do quality levels of the raw material affect the price of the wine? I wouldn't expect it since wine doesn't inherit any traits from the food.
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>>48293098
5 should be fine
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I need an autistic HUD layout that lets me keep a shitload of inventory open, especially when alchemy comes out and I'll have boxes full of potions to throw at people, preferably without squashing the main screen with the sidebar
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>>48293098
The easiest quests can be done with 1 music and zero practice. As long as you can survive a stoning
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>>48293266
You could try what I did, make everything minimum size and the background sorta-transparent with everything organized along the right size of the screen, so it works like a sidebar without actually cutting your view.

Set this up when I unlocked backpacks and it's been great, keep it open 100% of the time, switch inventory sets on the fly, etc.
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>>48293280
Yeah I was already starting on a layout similar to this. Is that a mod to show spell icons on scrolls/books? I thought for a moment you manually placed spells in your inventory. Which I think I might do now to make them smaller since I cant shrink the ability box as a whole.
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totally new, should I get Elin or Elona to start out
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>>48293311
>Is that a mod to show spell icons on scrolls/books?
Experimental settings, it's useful as hell though and I dunno why it isn't enabled by default, like damage numbers
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Why do npcs periodically turn into this colorful mist thing? If it's a "feature" can you disable it?
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>>48293360
What, you thought "Shadow of Mysilia" wasn't literal?
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riding or symbiote
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>>48293422
you train both >>48290523
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>>48286676
Cumming inside my little girl!
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>>48293315
it doesn't really matter. If you don't know if you'll like the game or not either pirate Elin or start with Elona as it's free. Elin is a little more accessible as far as controls go and looks nicer. Elona has more content
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>>48293360
never happened to me, either bug or some sort of ailment. Check if you have some mutation
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>>48293315
Were you interested in detailed base building right from the start?
>Go for Elin
Were you interested in dungeon diving and Xianxia style skill and stat growth?
>Elona+ variant
Did you want to play a smaller scale fantasy adventure where you can have adventurers as rivals and maybe start your own town (once you can afford one after 100 hours of playtime)
>Elona omake variant
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Are any of the main story npc's that you can recruit busted when it comes to combat?
Having a hard time finding someone who is stronger than Older Younger Sister. Killed the first story boss and unlocked Quruitzia, who's great damage but as some sort of sick joke, loves to spam line spells without knowing control magic.
Wondering if people have had better experiences with the other companions.
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>>48290523
Imagine minding your own business in the wilderness and a stack of three angry little girls roll up to murder everyone while counting kills loudly.
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>>48286676
>elin will be in earliy access for 2 years
so is elin gonna incorporate elona/+ updates or is it doing its own thing and is branching out?
also can someone tell me what does customgx do and if its just a sprite update, can someone give me a comparison?
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Something died.
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>>48293712
It's me. I died.
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>>48293670
Please read the beginner FAQ in the OP.
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seems like the mine in vernis has a very high chance of generating altar + shrine
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Is there a mod that shows hit chance when you mouse-over an enemy?
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What does the resistance part of the intonation spells scale to? It was definitely lower before, but it hasn't gone up as I've been training my magic stat and individual spell skill.
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Is there a reason to give a shit about how much non-companions like me?
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>>48294092
Even the townies can benefit from the 100% bonus to growth speed as those townies are what's protecting your shit from drive by Mirage attacks
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How do you complete the "war" quest type?
Kill the boss and leave the map?
I got green text in the top left telling me that retreat was possible but it just failed the quest as soon as I left the map.
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>>48294150
The retreat is automatic after a couple of turns after you blow the retreat horn
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>>48289573
You don't need to cook the little ones. I don't know if cooking them messes up their benefits or not
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>>48294150
You have to blow the horn to signal a retreat.
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>>48294219
>>48294285
Ah darn, to think it was so simple. I was just running around the map like an insane man after I ran out of mana trying to heal older younger sister. She tanked the T-rex for good minute after retreat was available, shame her head got bitten off.
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No idea who to pick as last pet, I feel like I need list of all npcs' spells and skills.
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Is there an elona version that reduces the platinum/potential grind by a lot?
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i miss the upbeat kill monster in the field quest music from elona
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that's a roundabout way for pets to learn new skills
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>>48294530
wait i might be dumb, can pets even use that skill
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>>48294641
Thought it currently might not have a direct use for them for now, but if pets can somehow train it (via orens) then it means it's also training the attribute related to the skill.
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Is there any kind of time limit in this game? I keep hearing the whrrr, seeing some cutscenes, and I got some magic aids.
I'm still just trying to pay taxes
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>>48294918
Taxes are based on how many years passed but other than that nothing to worry about.
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>>48292125
Fairy executioner is surprisingly easy and you can even use spells with no problem if you go with manacomy.
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>>48292125
Fairy in general is easy mode

Fairy Wizard is ASS in early game but then you become invincible in lategame, all you have to do is use Cat Eyes to out range everyone to avoid getting oneshotted by spells and then if there's melee only enemies they cannot hit you because you have perma levitate + 300 DV
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>>48295413
>Fairy in general is easy mode
Am I playing on hard mode with Fairy Thief then?
Or am I just bad at this game?
I believe it's the latter.
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I just discovered you can set word filters in containers and set auto dump to word filters, was this present since the beginning of EA? Feel so dumb for not putting it asap on brewing barrels to dump all my bonito flakes instantly.
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>>48295468
Are you using a melee weapon? It can be a pain in the ass if you're using anything other than a shortsword.
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Is there a way to change your avatar/character art appearance after starting the game?
Also, can anyone help me figure out what would be the best thing to do for a solid start of the game? Should I just start a farm first for steady income? I love open world sandbox games but they tend to also overwhelm me with too many options, and instead of just focusing on one thing at a time, I end up doing a little bit of everything at once and feeling like I'm not really actually accomplishing much on any field. Wouldn't be such a problem if I didn't have the constant, looming threat of taxes and poverty.
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>>48295619
>Is there a way to change your avatar/character art appearance after starting the game?
yes, you open the character status page and click on the portrait
to change your outfit you need to craft a mirror (or use the one in palmia)
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>93% chance to cast Lvl31 Weakness while dimmed
>0% chance to cast Lvl32 Elemental Scar while dimmed
huh
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I had no idea this game was popular with nip girls
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>>48295628
Neat, thank you. I noticed though when generating other characters that the list of portrait characters seem different every time (unless I'm retarded), and portraits from one character generation aren't available on another one. Is there no way to just have more freedom to customize? Like picking and choosing the hairstyle, face, and clothes individually for the portrait? Or is that what the mirror you're mentioning is for?
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100 strength soon bros
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*ring*
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>>48291870
>crossbow is the only weapon type in the game that does not have a precious artifact
even in Elona+ there was no crossbow artifact
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>>48295927
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Dreadnought
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Flash_Crossbow
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Cross_Rail
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Scorpierce
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Rinkhals
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>>48292142
It'd be fucking nice if there was some indicator of whether you are detected or not
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>>48295950
I don't remember any of these
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Holy shit, I got it!
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>>48295952
Maybe a system where alerted enemies appear in red blips on the minimap, but apparently Noa has other ideas, so RIP.
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>>48295984
good luck getting the materials
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>>48292142
You can train stealth the same way you cheese your pickpocketing in your base lol.
>Find hostile mobs in your base.
>Elevate their altitude by 10 using the build board.
>Jog around them and see your stealth increase gradually.
Don't know if it'll increase faster if you walk around a hall of elevated hostile mobs.
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Is there a way to turn ingots/ores into threads?
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so where else can i get a generator, aside from truce ground and using furniture tickets
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LETS FUCKING GOOOOO CATBROS
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>>48296070
pissboy
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>>48296074
imagine worshipping anyone but lady ehekatl
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>>48295843
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>>48296089
who the fuck is this guy anyway
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Can you use a fence to create an enclosure and expand a farm sign's area similar to how the sign works in regular rooms?
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>>48296111
yes, I did with mine
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>>48296014
Need monitors, everything else is easy to get.
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>>48296116
do tell me where to find a monitor or a recipe for monitors cuz I'm still looking for one
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>>48296067
The workshop should have snowman generators outside. They're easier to steal being fairly light.
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Miral_and_Garokk%27s_Workshop
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>>48296114
What do you use as door or gate? I have only seen the regular wooden fence in the crafting list.

Also can you just place a sun lamp in the area and it also grows crops in winter?
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>>48296095
Looks like a genderbent snail torturer for that 50 shades fix.
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>>48295897
the power of the gods awaits

also try the wedge size/width of 149-151, somewhere around there on the party indicator. for some reason it smooths out the portraits immensely. no idea why its programmed this way
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>>48296148
I used a door, I couldn't place a door in the fence, so I put a wall only in that tile
>Also can you just place a sun lamp in the area
I'm still trying to make my sun lamp so no idea
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Anyone know if there's a roadmap for Elin somewhere? I already tried searching the discord but the search function is pretty shitty.
Just want to know when Alchemy and the incompleted crafting skills in general are gonna be added
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>>48296253
I just tried and I could place a grass door on the fence after all.
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Suppose I made a weed farm to generate thousands of leaves to reroll potions with. Can you get any highrolls like ether potions or will I just be cycling between crappy 50 oren potion types?
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average chinkoid made mod
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>Been wearing a cursed cloak for the majority of the start
>Finally have enough spending money to buy a scroll of uncurse
>Scroll doesn't remove the curse, and instead curses another piece of gear

You've gotta be fuckin with me here
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I think this is common knowledge but for anyone who wants to specialize any specific location.
Any tile has one fixed land feat depending on its type like Plain, Forest, Beach.
In addition there are two mostly random ones that are rolled, which you can see in the info box when you are inside a zone. The 2 feats are not generated when you zone in but rerolled once a bit of time has passed.

When you use a relocation deed to move a land somewhere else, the land feats are retained.

So for instance if you are into farming, you'd want to find a tile with Forest, Fertile, Fresh Air as land feats or maybe Mushroom for mushroommaxxing.
For tourism you could find a Snowfield with additional tourism land feats.
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>>48296411
You were retarded from the start
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>>48296369
what's the fucking point lmao
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>>48289794
You have to offer a shitload of corpses or items

>>48289807
It should be 450 favor for a pet and 900 for a weapon
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>>48290694
The totem pole kills your accuracy and isn't a good match for dual wielding
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>>48291937
I think you ca meet every playable race except demigod
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>>48292352
I switched carbuncle out for a black cat so I don't have to hear the constant mewing. Telling your allies to shut up should also stop them from making noises. Someone who can submit feedback, please submit that
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>>48296548
>Not doing totem with both
faggot
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>>48293266
I like having my inventory open at all times, here's what I do
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>>48293422
Riding is mandatory if you aren't a fairy
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>>48296586
This is ugly
imagine not just copying the original elona layout
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>>48294918
There's no time limit. The whrrr is an earthquake that resets the random dungeons on the world map
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I LOVE JURE!!!
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>>48296095
>who the fuck is this guy anyway
Prequel Saimore
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>>48296586
based
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>>48296590
i choose to be a mifu so i can get endlessly double teamed head pats by my pets though
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>>48296411
Did you buy a scroll of curse by mistake? Was it a cursed scroll of uncurse?
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>>48295179
Oh thanks, I was worried that they were going to keep going up and I wasn't going to be able to keep up my payments lol
>>48296594
I never put two and two together and was wondering why the caves kept disappearing randomly
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>>48296586
Whoops that was an old screenshot, I've messed with it a bit since then
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The WHRRRR is opatos hitting his pinkie against his altar, this causes an earthquake which rerolls nefia
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What the fuck why did all of my potions of cure mutation turn into cursed potions of confusion overnight. Fucking bullshit
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love fishing
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>>48295619
A farm requires you to tidy up first, most just do what you do until they need something. Everyone has a dirty garbage filled mess of a field with lines of crafting stations and cardboard boxed for the first year or so.
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Whats the level to make generators, I need to know whether its worth smashing them apart on sight.
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what's the tool hardness progression supposed to be
i got steel, where do i go from here? best i have is one single diamond at 100, should i wait for a second and make a pickaxe or do i just get an axe
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>>48296721
here is the hardness list
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Materials
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>>48296696
40, get to smashin
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My new hobby is breaking down all kinds of junk
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>>48296369
I'll admit I'm using the 10x recipe gain one, I'd prefer if the game had ways of obtaining specific recipes, at least for functional things.
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>>48296774
yeahbut then that doesn't prove it's easier to get a cooking recipe to lv10 than it is to level cooking to 100
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>>48296616
Is that how Ehekatl greets you? Damn. I'm converting.
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>>48296774
>I'd prefer if the game had ways of obtaining specific recipes
I don't think it's an issue, just incentivizes visiting booksellers and makes it feel exciting when you find actually useful recipes. Maybe if sellers had more recipes and less useless books on average that would be cool
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>>48296799
Booksellers can stock recipes? I have one at my base I check whenever restocks happen and I don't think I've ever seen a recipe on her or any of the other booksellers I've visited. Best I can get is the occasional policy book for orens instead of gold bars. Shop level 10, town invest level 10.
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>>48296369
>behind all of the review bombing
>behind all of the cheat mods
>behind all of the hacked moongates
How does noa tolerate them?
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>>48296813
>Booksellers can stock recipes?
they dont
you got shitposted
honestly theres an influx of people coming here to just say shit thats not true
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I just got "A four leaf clover falls from the altar" after making on offering to Kumiromi but there's nothing on the floor. Is it just flavor text?
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ONE HIT
I DON'T KNOW WHY
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER HOW HARD I TRY
Literally the cloud was also one hit left before it should die. This game...
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>>48296897
pretty much
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Gods
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>>48293354
Noa probably got em from a free sprite pack
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>>48296897
yes you shota lover
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>>48286676
elona+, newfag here
bought iron armor for my dwarf warrior and i am always burdened, how do i increase my carry limit?
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>>48296918
weightlifting skill
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>>48296721
Make a steel hammer, get a tv like in Palmia and disassemble for chromite. You may need to raise crafting a bit.
Then with a chromite pickaxe, steel the casino's wall for rubynus. Then you are pretty much done cause there's no big improvement after that other than Dark Matter.
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>>48296918
learn weightlifting and stay in burden/burden!, it will slowly level up and you will be able to carry more
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>>48296954
oh so the game is like kenshi
that's neat
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>>48296956
pretty much, try to get the skills as early as possible so they start to level up directly from the start of the game
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>i thought i could have a big brain move by having a portable fridge using storage chests
>it doesnt work like a normal bag
sad
i hope noa fixes it
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>>48296949
thank you
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>>48296897
It means your donation was good
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fuck kobolds
they oneshot you
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>>48291720
it wasnt the length anon but the part where it looks like a dried up roided mushroom
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>>48296095
Looks like Efrond, but I have no idea why he has horns and a tail. Maybe it's the artist's character?
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>>48296962
welp i killed myself by being too heavy kek
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>>48296905
Bro you have 17 HP, you can't blame the game for this one
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>>48296813
I could have sworn they did, that's my b sorry
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>>48297044
progression of things that you will be afraid of
1. ghost
2. kobold
3. lizardman
4. mercenary
5. mad gaze
6. wyvern/drake/giant
7. dark missionary
8. shub-niggurath
9. great race of yith
10. spiral king
11. lv268 boss putit with 2000PV
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>>48297049
You can use it to train your regeneration too I think
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i was happy that i thought that i could have ghost like summons that can be my dodge tank from a random scroll that i found in a dungeon but nobody told me that shadow summons actually fucking explodes, who would thought that a fucking ghosts would fucking explodes simultaneously with all 3 of them
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i dont think this is a good investment
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>>48297167
What is the best bed available?
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>>48297067
I only feared mercenaries in early game, wyverns and red prophets until I started crafting my own blankets. And Spiral Kings are just insanely busted. I can damage them no problem with my Holy Lance, 4-5 good hits is all I need, but their damage is stupidly high.
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>logs from trees you grow yourself don't stack with ones harvested from the wild
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>>48297289
wait until you have stacks of +1, +2, +3, etc logs of the same type with different quality levels
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>>48297207
that one
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virgin bow archer
versus
gigachad gun gunner
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>>48297434
vs
Lad Steaming Sword shooter
wrf lad, that's not even a gun!
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>>48297447
vs
Thad melee only no magic warrior
that only has teleport, return, evacuation, identify, uncurse, magic map, levitate, mutation, cure minor wounds, nature's embrace, resurrect, restore body, restore mind, holy light, holy veil, cat's eyes, holy shield, divine wisdom. hero, elemental shield, speed, silence, weakness, elemental scar, bane, slow, telepathy, see invisible on their hotbar
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>>48297067
I was never scared of ghosts, lizardmen, mercs, mad gazes, wyverns, or dark missionaries
I'm still scared of blade omegas
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>>48297533
I almost wish blade omega spawn rate didn't get nerfed so hard, I rarely see them now
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>fighting shub
>i think im at like a hundred turns
>hes already at 1/4 health
>suddenly a wild spiral king came out of the corner
>i had to evac
fuck this nig
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Lost to Verna pretty narrowly (i forgot to feed my pets lol). And then we got it on. In the bookstore
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Is there any rhyme or reason to portrait/pcc order? I got some off the workshop and you'd think they go in order of portrait1-100 but they don't. They might skip several or jump back in numbers
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>>48297067
why the fuck do mercs hit so hard
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>>48295507
Just tried using this for my talisman box, "ice arrow (6 Charges)". Now anything less goes to general storage and only pristine 6 charge ice arrows go to my talisman stockpile, neat
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>>48297649
why not
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>>48297649
i wish mercs were stronger
it's always bothered me in games where mercenaries, people who have been doing dangerous tasks and requests for a living, are weak and die to some fresh adventurer from nowhere
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idk how the fuck am I supposed to gear up when boss chests in lv100+ nefias keep dropping garbage like this
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>>48297067
>11. lv268 boss putit with 2000PV
Does this really exist? That sounds hilarious. King putit...
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>>48297744
yes
but this spawned in a lv307 dungeon
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>>48297289
Building exterior complete, tomorrow I'll start with the interior and finally move all the workstations and storage inside.
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>>48297748
Doesn't that stats mod show too much information? Or do other roguelikes do the same?
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>>48297748
doesn't count, you cheated
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>>48297749
sorry, didn't mean to quote

I checked my mailbox for the first time in a while, and I got the new year's gift (is that why there are suddenly bells everywhere?), the cure for my recently triggered Ether disease, and a salary of 2400 Oren. Where is that salary coming from?
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>>48297780
>Where is that salary coming from?
I wish I knew, I still don't have a salary.
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Ah yes, 136 feat points
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>>48297749
looks really good anon. Let's hope Noa introduces levels next.
>>48297780
>is that why there are suddenly bells everywhere?
Yes
>Where is that salary coming from?
Home rank
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>>48297803
So you get money merely by raising the value of your home? That's neat, helps to offset the tax bills some.
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do only 5 items count towards tourism value?
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>>48297823
exactly, get the legacy homeskill from a scholar and level it up. Every level gives 1 extra heirloom, the default number is 5
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>>48297848
Good tip, thanks. I also think I know what sudenly moved me past that threshold: >>48283979 >>48287933
These two statues (and a nice painting I picked up from a boss chest) appeared at the top of my heirloom list, they must have skyrocketed the value of my home.
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>>48297799
>memory of cosmic horror
What even is that? Their ailment immunities?
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Is there a way to recruit the random NPCs that visit your town? They seem to just come and go without any way to keep them permanent, but I'd like there to be
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>>48297966
Get their affection above 75 and ask them to join you
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Every once in a while I randomly get stunlocked and the message log doesn't say why. I've got paralysis immunity. Is there no message for when dim crosses over to unconscious? Or do I get paralyed if the pet I'm riding gets paralyzed?
How are non golems supposed to deal with dim? In Elona a basic heal would clear it iirc but it doesn't seem to work here
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I want more equipment with this
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>>48297990
>How are non golems supposed to deal with dim?
raising more casting levels
>Or do I get paralyed if the pet I'm riding gets paralyzed?
no
>Every once in a while I randomly get stunlocked and the message log doesn't say why
its probably stun? its different from paralysis
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>>48297905
yeah, probably. You can check your heirlooms on the home board
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>>48297764
no they dont
usually you just get used to know how to deal with them through experience
showing stats on the fly is basically cheating the game because you already know what the resistances are
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>>48297764
At most other roguelikes would just tell you what level they are by default. Usually you'd need to use a consumable item to know a maybe what HP/MP they have at the time of use, with a few letting you see resistances as well, maybe. But not what stats they have, including their DV/PV and speed, nor the extra information like their job/hobby in Elin.

I think E+ had something that let you see these details on enemies, but not to the level that the mod does I think with just a flick of a button (mod). I guess it's more useful for those that don't want to play the random job/hobby gacha game if they're looking to capture them, or just really hate not knowing whether the enemy they're fighting is tanky as hell due to high HP or high PV, or if they're playing mage and was wondering if they're spamming the wrong element spell(s) on the enemy and doing little to no damage.
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Can the shipping chest not be used for auto dumping? I have it at the highest priority, flora selected under resources, and set it to use both category auto dump and distribution settings auto dump and my character always goes to a lower priority resource chest to dump off flowers
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>>48298042
>Can the shipping chest not be used for auto dumping?
its disabled by default

how about enable it first
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>>48298044
How about you learn to fucking READ

Anyway it worked after excluding flowers from the lower priority chest. I just don't understand why I need to use exclusion when the shipping chest has higher priority
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>>48298025
>its probably stun? its different from paralysis
That's news to me. I haven't seen equipment with stun immunity. Is it associated with an elemental resistance?
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>>48298042
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>>48286676
Anyone know what investing Demitas and Kettle's store actually does?
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>>48297769
>>48298034
Literally no one except you gives a shit dude
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any reasons not to hoard orens in some chest in your base? i don't trust those banker types
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>>48298068
>I haven't seen equipment with stun immunity
same with dim
>Is it associated with an elemental resistance?
no, you cant resist stun

>>48298070
more copy slots and more items copied
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>>48298074
im not the other guy im just calling you out for what it is
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>>48298075
>any reasons not to hoard orens in some chest in your base
yeah it can be destroyed by ice damage at low levels
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>>48298075
Can't use them for anything while they're in a chest (or piggy/cat bank). In Elin, you can have your taxes and bills paid directly out of your bank deposit and you can always see how much orens you have in your bank account on the character screen, so unless you love manually paying taxes (or not paying taxes at all), there's no reason to not use them. You can also make any taxes or income ('salary') from the land be directly deposited into your bank as well.

And if you hate that your orens just sit there and do nothing, there's a mod just for you. There's a mod that makes it so that orens sitting in your bank account accrue interest, at a rate of 10% by default (can be modified by modifying the mod files, I think). For those that have hundreds of thousands, if not millions in their bank account and never want to be bothered by the need to make money to pay taxes still.
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>>48296307
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Are light sabers only from wishing?
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>>48298126
pretty sure i saw it on treasure chests but my memory is kind of hazy
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>>48298126
They can definitely appear from normal blacksmith shopkeepers as well. For my first 'learning the game mechanics' character, I had a Lightsaber with 'Uses the power of the Force' modifier show up at the Palmia Blacksmith shopkeeper without even investing anything to them. I feel like the Palmia Blacksmith tends to have a higher default investment level so you can sometimes get some real decent 'good enough' gear like Crystal Platemails to actual miracle tier equipment. Worth refreshing their shop and investing them a bit, and maybe even recruiting them.
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>>48298132
>>48298144
I'll try refreshing Palmia's blacksmith and check it out.
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>>48298144
I should add that I've seen them sell Speed Rings for like 300k orens and Aurora Rings (forgot how much they charged) as well, so these kind of things aren't totally exclusive to wishing and Nefias anymore.
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apparently spear traps can drop microchips, huh maybe all traps can since this is like the most basic trap
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>>48298169
If you have Scavenger 3, all traps can drop microchips when you disarm them. Maybe lower Feat level or even without the Feat you can find them, but I like getting Scavenger 3 purely for the 'traps cannot be triggered while disarming them' effect
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How do you choose that support color on these platforms? They're both from the same material but the support looks different
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>>48297980
Sounds easy enough, thanks. And I just get their affection up by spamming them with gifts? Hopefully I can get them enough books before they randomly disappear.
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>>48298206
Also your charisma has to be higher than their highest stat to actually get them to accept joining
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>>48298237
is there any way to debuff their charisma?
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>>48298206
You can toss alcohol on the ground and walk into them so they, hopefully, step in it and get drunk. Then you get the "watch birds" dialogue option which can raise affection as well.
Think you can give them alcohol and they'll randomly drink too.
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>>48298175
Makes sense, I do have Scav 3 for the same reason!
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I'm starting to think that beehives don't need flowers specifically to make honey, they just need any crop. I've had a flower field untouched for over a year and now that I'm doing some actual farming, they're producing far more and with different stats on them.
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>>48298237
>>48298247
Thanks bros, appreciate the tips since I've been flying blind the past two days and I have little to no idea what I'm doing.
At the risk of being annoying, I just have one more question. How do I deal with sick villagers? I spent some gold bars to get some, and now some of them are sick. Will they get better on their own? And is there a way to prevent them getting sick again so I don't lose the few villagers I spent all my resources recruiting?
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Is there a way to get a new Adventurer's Log?
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>>48298293
I think it's because you have more villagers than allowed by your home level
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>>48298293
The only way someone can get Sick is if they're sleeping around. Are you watching birds with them (whether it's in reality or via a sleep larva), or there's a Mother or two doing the same thing? Or if there's any prostitute NPCs around.

NPCs cannot die from getting Sick, they just get really debuffed. In a way, it's one of the few ways of getting a NPC's Charisma low enough to make them recruitable. That aside, if you want to get rid of their Sickness, you need to bring them to a Healer, either your own or one in a town. Just add them to your party and then take them to a Healer and request for healing.
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>>48298278
They definitely do not need flowers to make honey, on my previous character I had a beehive, zero flowers, just some crops, and it produced honey at a low rate (every other day or so?)
Not sure how it might affect frequency and quality though. I got three queen bees on my new character, once it's spring again I could try and keep track of how much honey is produced each day and how many fully grown crops there are on the map that day.
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>>48298278
I think it works like this, every day the hive rolls a random number up to 10, it will then try to "occupy" that number of flowers. If it can it will produce honey, if there aren't enough free flowers because the other ones are already occupied by another hive or there just aren't enough in the map it won't produce any honey
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>>48298206
Yeah. You also need sufficiently high charisma for them to join. Engagement gifts make everyone happy. Talking and Horome's headpats can raise their affection but it is slow.
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any recommendations as to what i should do with the space i have? i'm already over my fertility budget. thinking of building like an inn/bar/general store. any ideas are welcome!
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>>48298076
>no, you cant resist stun
The wiki says that stun is related to lightning damage, maybe lightning resistance can prevent it. If so that's my new top priority resistance.
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Where do I get recipes for floor and wall workshops?
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>>48298429
fiama or noytel
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>>48298415
Especially with the Manually Assign Bed mod, you could start building individual houses for pets or shopkeepers if you have them, and start decorating their houses/shops with the appropriate stuff
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Do any of the pet traits 'carry forward' to the PC at all? Like I know that pets worshiping Mani can dominate machines and Kumiromi can 'calm' plants down (make them neutral to the PC), but does anything else transfer over?

I'm mainly thinking about the Young Lady you can pick up at Miral's Workshop. She was changed from a caster in Elona to a Pianist in Elin, and as far as I am aware no other NPC specifically has Pianist as a class with their corresponding music performance traits. If I bring the Young Lady with me around and do Party Time quests, would her presence increase my music performance success rate and bonus?
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>>48298523
I have her and she constantly keeps me awake when I try to sleep, and has money in her inventory from playing, but I dunno how I would test if she's giving me points in party time
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>>48298527
S-she constantly keeps you awake at night and has money on her from playing around all the time? How l-lewd!

I'm going to grab her anyway because her diary was the first thing I always spent my small medals on in Elona before saving up for the Younger Cat Sister, but I was mainly wondering if she's worth having in party or if she requires some work done first (e.g. making her a Mani worshiper and having her learn Guns so that she can fire her assault rifle from my shoulders)
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>>48298523
Riding a Lulwy pet gives the PC their speed boost
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>everyone gets to have a cool pet
>I get some lame paladin
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I got my first Putit in Amber. Is this always the best option to put on party members over bows, crossbows, panties, etc.?
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>>48298618
No. Throwing weapons do not scale.
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>>48298573
At least you didn't choose the Tourist class for your 600 hour main character like that other anon did.
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How do I prevent my livestock dying? Does making a pen and putting the ranch sign in it help?
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>tacticool hags with ill intent
this keeps getting better
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>>48298523
That young lady (and the several other young ladies you can find in another location) won't boost your own performance at all. But they do gather money (and rocks) like any other NPC bard as they play their instrument. In theory you might be able to position them in a place where visitors congregate, and have them passively gather money by playing? I guess the main advantage would be, if you use them in your party, they'll always have a little money on them to train themselves.
now that I think about it, if you somehow leveled their music to 100+ and brought them along on concert quests, I guess they'd also be gathering shittons of money, maybe?
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>little girl gets drunk
>i can prostitute myself to her
What the fuck
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>>48298573
the paladin is one of the best ones!
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>>48298751
You're just watching birds with her
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>>48298552
She's been pretty fucking useless for me so far but that's just part of the fun, must correct brat etc
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When it comes to figures of monsters and such, in terms of Tourism Value, are the actual original figures dropped from the monsters worth the most, or are sculpted ones worth more depending on their material? I've been sculpting to level the skill while plopping down figures I don't have yet, shipping boxing the rest. I've been making them mainly out of gold cut stones mined from Derphy.
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>>48298828
Pretty sure making them out of gold generates more tourism value than the ones they drop on death.
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>>48298781
I always married her in Elona and no one else. It's why I always brought her along everywhere, even in E+. It doesn't matter if she's not as useful in combat this time round, she'll still be my one and only true waifu. And she's stacked this time round to make up for her inability to fling spells around without genes, too.
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>>48296985
It's not supposed to work like a normal bag, it's even marked with "Only works on your land."
It might work in your tent.
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>Got base to 7
>Click hearthstone
>No publish option
Any clues?
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>>48299021
publishing is for backers only and people who never enabled cheats or debug mode
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>want to make (s)Lime sidekick
>no equipment slots
So short of mutating in limbs she's stuck on boomerang duty right?
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>>48299071
Damn
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>>48298976
No, it doesn't work in your tent. It did in the past, but it was patched out specifically so that you couldn't use it in your tent.
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>display info that is hidden for no reason
>you are le cheating!
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>>48299256
Understandable
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>>48299071
do mods count as cheats?
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>>48299260
Additional EXP mods are metagaming cheats.
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>>48299136
In Elona you could Gene Engineer limbs onto pets using specific races. So you could have a humanoid Slime like you want to, for example.

In Elin, it looks like it's a lot more complicated and possibly impossible. To make a Slime Girl through Gene Engineering, you probably need to get incredibly lucky and get a bunch of Genes with multiple 'Memories of (body part)' on it; I assume those make them grow that body part.
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>>48299265
Additional info mods*
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>>48299265
Who gives a fuck about cheating, it's a single player game.
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>>48299295
I don't, I'm just pointing out that giving perfect information about game interactions does actually affect the game to the player's advantage. However, I don't care enough for that form of difficulty to criticize anyone for modding it out.
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>>48299295
> it's a single player game.
maybe. however you can visit other people's worlds so is it still singleplayer?
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>>48299329
You're not actually visiting their places, just copies of them. You don't interact with the other players in any way.
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>>48299338
>You don't interact with the other players in any way
subjective
if you tried hard enough you can shitpost together on the newspaper
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>>48299329
So long as you avoid Moongates in general right now. While there are a few showcase towns, there are too many of those exploit-ish towns right now like the godpet music performance orens and plat coin farms, the infinite small medal towns, the near infinite number spellbooks on the floor that you can interact and read towns, and the literal towers of practice chests towns.

Though if you avoid those towns without touching any of what they're set up to do (orens/plat + music training, infinite small medals, infinite spell charges, extreme easy mode lockpicking leveling, etc.) then you're golden.
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there is a reason why noa removed stethoscoping neutral and enemy npcs
same with evolved enemies
scoping them would remove the challenge of getting their genes
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hmm... so, I noticed, dear anonymous, that you have 0 fire resist... would you care to explain that?
16 charisma? ohoho. if I WANTED to recruit you, I would now know exactly when I could do that. too bad you don't seem to have any skills I want...
it seems you're currently missing about half of your mana, as well. tut tut. well, with all this information, I can easily destroy you.
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>>48299409
sounds like chapter 1 of every isekai
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>2 NPCs mailed themselves to my house
But why
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>>48299377
>getting their genes
This gene bullshit shouldnt be a thing in the first place, just bring back the old gene machine, fuck your gay genes
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>>48299409
16 charisma? that's a bit higher than my 7 after 900 days
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>>48297749
How do you make it so two houses sharing a roof don't connect like that?
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>>48299420
calm down theres not even marriage yet
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>>48299420
Or even better, bring back Gene Engineering as a skill but this time you're splicing genes together to create custom genes
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>>48299433
nta separating house plates. you can then edit the roof to give the illusion
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>>48299433
From my guess, 3 Room and House Boards/Plates
- Main building (center) is Default (Room #0)
- Atriums are part of the same 'room' (Room #1)
- Outer wings are part of the same 'room' (Room #2)

You actually don't need to have a Room Plate in the other rooms anymore once you set their Room ID, but you have to have a House Plate to make it stick. Then you just adjust the appearances via the House Plates until you get it looking like what you want it to look like.

This is also how you make L-shaped houses without the roof going over the 'blank' space like as if the house is being treated like a square.
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>>48299458
Oh, looking at it more closely, missed a room:
- The 'connectors' between the Main Building, Atrium and Outer Wings is probably Room #4
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>>48299453
>>48299458
When i try putting two house plates in different connected rooms one of them just can't be interacted with what am i doing wrong?
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>>48298781
Is this available as a portrait? I feel like on the JP side at least there are a bunch of mods, portrait or sprite/PCC ones, that aren't on the Workshop - either because they'd get copystriked (I've seen one replace the 'horse' sprite when riding with Lapras from Pokemon) or they're being circulated on their own uploader somewhere. Same with Elin fanart.
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>>48299486
Did you put a Room Plate in one of the rooms to change the Room ID? And I keep forgetting which one, but I think you had to either leave the Room Plate/Board in the room, the House Plate/Board or both. It can feel a bit finnicky at first but eventually it kind of makes sense, but I can't remember off the top of my head which way you're supposed to go about it.
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one day I will beat this bitch
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>>48298350
The code is in FactionBranch.DailyOutcome(). It counts the number of flowers on the map (I think flowers with plusses count for more? not sure), then looks for non-full beehives. Each non-full beehive subtracts a random number of flowers between 3-7, +4 for each checked beehive, then if the flower count is still above zero it rolls a random number between 0 and 99 and compares it against the lowest of either 100 or (I _think_) remaining field fertility. If the random number is lower, the beehive generates honey.
...Oh, and the flower count starts at 5, which is how generating honey without flowers is possible.
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>>48299526
She is a fucking weakling, LOL
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>>48299526
Certainly believable that none of the girls wear panties in the world of Elin, because not only are they expensive, they're also considered to be a weapon and are often times used as a musical instrument akin to a violin as well
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>>48299492
just scale it yourself
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Is it possible to manually choose a title? I want to reroll but don't want to lose my title.
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>>48299641
disgusting titty monsters
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>>48299659
just edit your save data
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>>48299799
I don't want to be banned
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>>48299810
what
i just a notepad anon
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do women play this game
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>>48299795
>.mp4
lmao
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>>48299823
yeah
succubus (male)
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This floor is static, right? This chest won't disappear if I leave it here?
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>>48299836
the only static dungeon floors are quests
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>>48299838
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that it's the nymelle one. So it probably won't disappear. Thanks.
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>>48299579
For being an A rank she was surprisingly easy to beat with magic when I was still C rank
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Fuck, I'm just as bad in elin as I was in elona
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I feel like the Adventurer challenge fights would be harder if you have to defeat not only them, but those they bring along as well, since the allies they bring with them are scaled to your level and they always bring the same amount of allies as you do.

In the meantime, I'll continue enjoying my one-two strike wins against high ranked Snail adventurers by throwing Potions of Salt Water at them.
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CHEATBROS
CHEATBROS
>CHEATBROS
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>>48299944
all snails deserve salt water
no exceptions
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so, if I put any wood into the Kiln it will turn into carbon log, which is very covenient to make walls and fences of the same color
but what about stones? is there any method that just turn every stone into a single type so I can make stuff of the same color in a easy way?
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How do I practice in my practice chest?
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>>48300112
No similar solution for stones, I'm afraid. If you want everything in anything but granite, you'll have to grind forever because the only thing you'll find everywhere (and in a specific nefia) is granite.

On that note, be aware that carbon log still keeps to the hardiness and item trait factors, so if you wanted it all into one stack then it might annoy you to have a bunch of different carbon logs

>>48300118
Just wait until it closes, then try to open it. Every time you do that, it trains your Lockpicking. It automatically closes after a few hours after you've opened it.
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>>48299659
There's a mod that makes it a lot easier to get what you want
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What the hell even is Town Level?
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>>48300289
If you mean for your land, Town Level acts like a global Investment level bonus to all the shopkeepers in that land. It's otherwise not so useful for any other land, unless it has other hidden bonuses associated with it.
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>civility is actually a garbage stat
wtf
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i have 4 available feats
what do you recommend? im thinking of summoner
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>>48300324
sleeping is a must
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anyway to automatically separate tainted and human meat?
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>>48300324
I like going for max Sleeper, makes recipes turn up more consistently and you also recover a ton more stamina on sleep. Especially so now that Ehekatl's Body Pillow was buffed to also give +30% chance on getting a recipe when you sleep, which I assume stacks with the Sleeper feat bonus.

Otherwise I'd consider getting Scavenger 3. At Scavenger 3, traps start dropping microchips when you disarm them, and you also get the added bonus of traps no longer triggering while you're trying to disarm them. This makes traps you detect ineffective against you and turn into free resources, especially when you're disarming land mines and curse traps
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how to get hungry faster
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is there any point on weapons
everything end game just turns into mages
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>>48300420
Try drinking dirty water to make yourself vomit.
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>>48298689
I HAVENT PLAYED IN A WEEK I HAVE SERIOUS DEPRESSION OVER THIS.
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does anyone know how to expand the water area?
it looks kinda dogshit right now....
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why is shiba dog more annoying to deal with than regular dog
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What's the max number of times you can improve a recipe? Does it have any effect on equipment?
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>>48300454
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I did some testing using the console on the demigod's Eytheist bonus. It isn't very good. With 300 faith the bonus seems to have stopped at +6 to base stats and +15 to speed. At 100 faith it was +14 to speed, at 20 faith I had +4 to all stats and +12 to speed. The equation seems to drop off drastically. It's a little early game bonus before getting a god and not an ultimate power you activate once you have the god rewards you want and a high faith skill.

Pic related is what Fia and Ash did to the meadow while my test demigod ran back and forth between there and Lumiest for about two years.
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>>48300482
>What's the max number of times you can improve a recipe?
no idea but it probably goes into hundreds
>Does it have any effect on equipment?
yes on some of them
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>>48300512
So how much do you owe in unpaid taxes?
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why is there's a gravestone behind the king bed in palmia
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>>48300517
$13,500 if I didn't miss any bills. They were exactly $500 each until they jumped up to exactly $1000 each.
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>>48300512
Guess my euphoric dark fedora priest of the void is sticking with a final god after after all. Thanks for finding this out, I was going to do that ULTIMATE POWER thing exactly too in the end.

Though, maybe it's a bit tempting to go for Eyth anyways in the end just for the dumb challenge and for the sake of RPing someone intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor destined to become another Exile after a bout of drunken hubris and prostitution
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>>48300518
There's a reason why there's no queen in the Palmia of Elin
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>>48300568
the game will involve bringing Eyth back to power to alternate timeline elona out of existence, only true believers that stuck with him from the beginning will reap the benefits though. cringe atheists need not apply
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Do I really need to tell my residents to stock shit into the fridge where all the food is kept so I'll have it available for when quests ask for it?
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>>48300435
holy shit thats pretty efficient
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>>48300435
wtf bro i got anorexia.....
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>>48300512
>at 20 faith I had +4 to all stats and +12 to speed
I had more than that at 0 faith and less than a year of eyth so I'm not sure if your data is entirely accurate
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>>48300604
You residents and pets are the best kind of fridges.
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>>48300620
>>48300512
for the record I had +7 all stats and I'm not sure about speed but I think it was between 10 and 14
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i have now seen the light of savescumming from the dark cave of drinking wells and fountain
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>>48300679
Just be like me
>fill 10+ bottles of water at holy well
>buy mutation potions
>bless them
>???
>profit
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>>48300590
That would turn Elin into a different game, though. Would Eyth return as he was, or would he turn into a Chaos God while in the Void? When he does return, unless he comes out as some 'lost old man' (is there even a depiction of what Eyth looks like?) you find deep in the Void as a powerless god that you unknowingly help until he becomes powerful enough to challenge Mani and Lulwy (and perhaps the other five gods and goddesses as well).

Or they could always make it a joke scenario where Eyth had already escaped the Void long ago, and in truth, you have already met Eyth. After all, losing his godly powers and his time in the Void had turned him into the abnormality among Younger Sisters in the form of the Older Younger Sister
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>>48300620
>>48300655
Looks like you're right. One year of running around with baseline faith gets +5 to base stats and +13 to speed. I must have been increasing faith shortly before it rose naturally. Now I wonder if faith isn't just irrelevant to eyth demigod stat boosts
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I always thought best thing about the demigod is that you can hop between gods without invoking divine wrath and worshipping Eyth is the weakest option.
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>>48300729
Divine wrath is meaningless anyway. Walk for minute or two on them overworld and it goes away.
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One Ylva hour is equivalent to roughly 100 player turns.
An uninterrupted Meditation (Level 1) action takes about 300 turns.
A Snail player and a Fairy player will both arrive at one hour passed after 100 turns regardless of what actions were made (idling, moving, etc...)
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>>48300734
Not so easy with 1st god when you have to train faith to 15-30.
Also I'm curious if you can even carry anything if you worship Opathos first for a year.
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>>48300706
>I wonder if faith isn't just irrelevant to eyth demigod stat boosts
It isn't mentioned in the tooltip for the trait so probably? Don't know where any one got that idea then
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Do unique npcs always spawn with miracle/godly gear? Thinking of farming Efrond for it.
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what does feather shard of the goddess do, is it free resurrection or something
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>>48300706
Passed 118 speed at just under 800 days. The speed of stat growth seems to decrease over time and faith doesn't seem to noticeably speed it up. But it is still going and could potentially be good if you had a way to pass massive amounts of game time in a short amount of real time. Otherwise I still don't think it's worth missing out on god abilities and their full powered equipment. After the previous post I tried increasing faith to 150 to see if I could notice any speed up in stat gains. I could not, but it's possible that faith might affect the buff caps but not the buff growth rate. It's also possible faith doesn't help with eyth demigod buffs at all.
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>>48300757
The ylvapedia page for demigods says that faith affects the caps, which may or may not be true. But ylvapedia also says they gain about 1 to base stats every 25 days and about 1 to speed every 10 days, and those rates clearly don't hold up for higher levels of the buff.
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>>48300765
Reached +19 speed at 900 days. Base stats still at +7. Tried setting faith all the way up to 1900 before doing this to see if it would improve the cap or the rate. My conclusion from this is that faith has little to no effect on the buff, and that even if the buff's growth doesn't have any real cap, it goes up so slowly that in practice you shouldn't expect more out of it than 7-10 to base stats and maybe 20 to 25 speed.
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Can the casino clerk be recruited? I wouldn't mind a free daily scratch card.
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I'm trying to find an old Elona sprite pack that had a couple Ragnarok Online PCCs and I'm having no luck with it
Does anyone else even remember that one?
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Misaki the absolute unit, top and bottom is my damage, middle is hers. Gave her a big adamantite claymore that's smashing harder than my Muramasa.
I asked about lightsabers before EA started and someone mentioned penetration is unnecessary with intonations, seems right
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>>48299897
Most adventurers seem pretty easy to beat. I beat one of the S ranks as D rank. Only using magic arrow lol
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Is there any mage npc that only got cold arrow and nothing else?
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>>48300202
slate is also pretty easy to get
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>>48300202
>Just wait until it closes, then try to open it. Every time you do that, it trains your Lockpicking. It automatically closes after a few hours after you've opened it.
Anon should keep it next to crafting tables, fishing spots, or farms.
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>>48300941
Don't this so. You have to make that on your own with a gene.
Good luck~
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>>48300941
Adventurers roll randomized spell pools.
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loytel is literally me
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Is there anything Kettle can duplicate that is a big money maker? Or is there a large mark up on the stuff he sells?
Trying to debate if I should turn him into a money printer or ask him to duplicate pain in the ass crafting materials like tight rope.
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Can You Beat Elin With Only Magic Dart?!? challenge! (IMPOSSIBLE)
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>>48301239
I'm pretty sure that anything you get Kettle to duplicate cannot be sold, so it's best to have him duplicate materials that are annoying to make or great food you made
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>>48301244
>*Will-O-Wisp has entered the chat*
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>>48301192
>broke
yeah, me too
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>>48294482
these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n71l9zoKv5w
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>>48301310
>>48294482
Same but for the Nefia boss music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVHStW9SIlA
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ashland attacked me so i killed him, will he respawn?
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>>48301354
Yes
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>>48301361
wow free guitar
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>>48301365
I got him and Elrond drunk to kill them for their guitars. They add a lot of value to your house and they have their own song.
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>>48301268
>I'm pretty sure that anything you get Kettle to duplicate cannot be sold
Does that count for anything else the item is crafted into?
Ex: I ask him to duplicate string, which I turn into lutes for selling
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>>48301395
That might work, I had him duplicate beehives and I can sell the sugar wine I make from the honey
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>>48301395
It's only whatever he duplicates that can't be sold; if it's used to make something, then the product can be sold. So if you got him to duplicate microchips and you used them to make Practice Chests, you can sell those Practice Chests like normal.
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how do i wake up a sleeping shopkeeper without getting negative karma from kicking them or getting killed by a rock from playing bad music
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>>48301458
play good music
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>get 7K out of wines
Hell yeah
>Pay 7K in taxes
Ughh...
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>>48301192
You actually fell for NFTs? Hahaha!
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>>48301192
>would fuck pubescent one-eyed orphan girls

Yep. Literally me
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>finally got a wish
>wish for seven league boots so i can take escort quest more efficiently
>got them made from wood
>and the game now keep throwing firehound at me
fuuck you ehekatl
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>>48290679
It really is a shame that z levels aren't in the game.
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>>48299641
do you gen the portraits yourself?
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>>48301458
nuke palmia
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It's really fucking annoying how talking to people makes them like you less 9 out of 10 times
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Will putit eggs ever go bad? They're made of jelly
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>>48302141
if it doesn't say anything related to its freshness, it'll never go bad
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>>48302175
All of those eggs... they'll never be cheese...
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>>48301458
Are there whistles in Elin?
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>>48302187
if you put it in an aging barrel/rack it'll age like normal food
sugar and bonito flakes do not expire normally and are both heavily used for wine
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>>48302255
I had it on a rack and it was taking forever so I gave up
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What exactly do shields do, just provide their stats while making you lose your two-handed bonus on your weapon?
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>>48302284
+10% physical damage reduction and a passive stun chance on melee attacks
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after 1,421 days and nights i finally learned how to make tatami mats
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>>48286676
how do i rob people of their stuff without killing them for the i want it quest?
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>>48302436
forgot to mention, in elona+
i mean like mugging
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>>48302463
knock out or put to sleep then pickpocket
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>>48302463
If you talk to them, you can trade them another item for the target item. So, for example, you can buy five bottles of crim ale from a bartender, then see if they'll accept that for a trade, then back out and drop a couple bottles and see if they'll still accept it, and so on until you determine the minimum number of bottles of booze you can swap for the item.
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>>48302498
they just say "are you kidding?" the moment i ask to trade the item before i even get to choose what to trade
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>>48302528
Only equivalent items will show up, so you must have nothing valuable. His strategy is to avoid accidentally overpaying.
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>>48302528
Is there also a message like "you don't have the goods to trade for it"? If so, I guess it's something expensive. You could scrounge up crimberries and brew a ton of crim ales?
Also, remember that the quest doesn't require you to get the specific item carried by that NPC. You just need to get the item, and that NPC happens to be carrying one that you can trade for. If it's something you can buy from a store, you can clear the quest that way too.
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>>48302572
oh i didn't know
>>48302591
the item was somethingstock, i forgot its name
and i am still new to the game, all i know is basic rogue like controls so far and doing quests
ive no clue how to get into gardening or brewing or any of that
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>>48302604
Low level gear and consumables are pretty worthless. You can usually grab some oracle scrolls from Puppy Cave for easy trades, but you're better off using them on adventurers to trade for gear. Also, like he said, you will trade the whole stack if you aren't careful.

Since the whole stack will be traded, stuff that you can easily get large amounts of like ale are easy to "make" valuable. Again, you can get potions and scrolls for this purpose pretty easily as well.
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>>48302604
Probably a Taktstock. They aren't cheap, if memory serves.
Anyway, I was talking about poking around wilderness tiles to find crimberries then using the Pot for fusion recipe to generate a stack of blessed crim ales. You might be able to trade some wildflowers for one, not sure.
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>>48300436
lol. lmao even.
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okay now someone wants a modern lamp that weights 250s and i dunno how to carry it to him
i already have it here in a house but i cant move
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>>48302654
?? Why can't you throw it to a tile next to them?
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>>48302698
when i try to throw it says it's too heavy
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Is there a way I can get villagers to put the mushroom beer from the brewery barrel to the shipping box? I read mushroom beer is the most afk way to earn orens
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>>48302719
You cna set up a container with the distribution rules to collect booze, put it next to the shipping container, then they move it there automatically and whenever you're at your base just quickly dump from the crate to the shipping box
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>>48302719
It's not like you lose money by letting them build up, you still have it even if you aren't at home to ship it
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>>48302698
I think that's the guy playing E+. You can't just throw stuff like you can in Elin.

>>48302654
The item was marked "[Heavy!]" in the job description, right? You should stay away from jobs with those items, you basically have to be superhuman to do them.
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>>48302801
yeah elona+
thanks anon, guess i'll take the karma hit
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how do i fill these up with grass, the grass tile have a different color to it
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>>48303004
check how the grass is called. There are different types of grass, like grass, forest grass, etc...
You are probably using the wrong one



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