Lesson was so fucking good

>>50169894
What did you like about it?

>>50169790
Do guys in these kinds of games typically have armpit hair or no?

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>the holik works bl game that was vaporware didn't die! It will come out this January! Club suicides artist had to step down though, so they hired a new one.
It is unironically, unequivocally, irrevocably fucking over for me sisters GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I'M KILLING MYSELF WHY CAN'T ANJI FINISH DOING THE ART FOR A GAME FUCKING COCKSUCKING BITCH DAMN SHIT

>>50169894
>going to be years until the next paradekino
sisters.......

>>50170132
Like...everything. After Kento's route I literally couldn't put it down, I finished it in one sitting. I don't think I have any complaints about it.

honestly lesson wouldve been great even if it wasnt bl
just super compelling story

>>50171188
Why would I read a story about two hairy men if there's no gay sex

>>50171188
the game was a 10/10 for me but the story was just solid and i don't think it was that special. the revenge rationale felt contrived at points. best part about it for me was kento was adorable and the h scenes were super hot. the characters and their dynamics were amazing and the atmosphere and pacing were good too but if there was no gay sex it would've just been a 7/10 for me

I started reading lesson and got to Kento's I'm guessing first "flashback". What the fuck was that fantastic description of how numb he is to the whole forced extremely incestuous rape thing.

>>50171874
7/10 is pretty high ngl sis

>Nitro chiral going gacha
Proofs? Their previous mobile spinoff died super fast.

>>50172403
yea i know but i'm just saying the gay sex was a big part of the game for me. i think a lot of the characterization and progression would be wildly different if there was no gay sex because takafumi getting kento off and their physical relationship is one of the major triggers for his character development

>>50172435
yeah ikwum

Which was the character you least expected to be a rapist before playing their routes ?

Just finished Kento's route, that was an ending alright.

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2026 will be the year of R18 otome.

https://x.com/sachi_aries7/status/1979586161808142753?t=j3b5ezxvqF8XjNgpYkEYYQ&s=19

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>>50170581
Me too anon :(
But different art >>>>>dead game

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I don't know if Hoshikuzu Heliograph has ever been discusses here, but Nakakura is working on senseis route that never got to release.

And a-s chads bought himehibi 2.
Still missing moshikami, panic palette and some bucks for blackish house a.

Odalisque is 200%+ crowdfunded. They'll release separate routes or smth.

You can pre-order the new primula game, it'll have eng tl too.

>>50172417
https://www.youtube.com/live/NPPHPfQOZy4?si=icni5Kaw8CuU-d64
Announced here

>>50174094
The new art lowkey looks better so I don't get all this dooming about it.

>>50174228
Uesugis art is very unique for me, the coloring etc too. The other isn't bad just too commercial.

>>50174228
I agree. Personally, I think the past artist is some drama queen hack. Overrated, don't give a shit if she's multi talented and unique when there are others who also are.

>>50171188
Lots of BL would have been better without the gay sex but I think that's an unpopular opinion.

>>50174313
Which ones would you say? I can't think of any that I've played where I thought the gay sex was unnecessary.

>>50174446
I'm not crazy about R18 content (especially BL) in general so it's probably just my natural aversion/personal taste lashing out but I can't say I thought the explict gay sex in Paradise was that necessary to me. Perhaps in Matsuda's route it had its place but the others? The game's writing and characterization is great otherwise.

I love bl for what they are personally. Some routes may be lacking chemistry sometimes and sex be out of place or forced but i like how it wraps up in the end.

>>50174494
I can excuse the sex in paradise as life and death situation and power control. Men rape for dominance unless they're sicko yanderes stalking ML since forever or delulu enough to think that ML wants them too.

>>50174494
do you only play mostly console otome? it’s crazy to me that someone who doesn’t fancy ero could be interested in a medium where nukige aside the erotic content is important to the story being told the majority of the time

>>50175061
No. While I do enjoy a good number of non-R18 otome, I read mostly plot heavy/chuuni eroge. In many of those games, I wouldn't even consider the ero content that important. You could remove most of the sex scenes in Muramasa and it wouldn't change much. To be more precise on my previous post, I don't hate erotic content entirely but I am picky about it. Nowadays, it just feels more distracting and unnecessary to go through full blown sex scenes when my taste in ero is more specific.

Ero content better show the seme's abs otherwise what are we even doing here ?

>>50175138
saying you can remove the ero from muramasa and nothing would change is kind of crazy to me. the only scenes that felt truly insignificant to me are the race girl rape and rokuhara girl rape. the scene where doushin rapes the girl during the play pushes his role as a basara and all the ero scenes with the heroines except maybe muramasa herself add depth to kageakis trauma that we otherwise don’t really see in non sexual scenarios.

>>50175307
oh wait i take back what i said about muramasas sex scene im referring to the 2nd one where she’s in a maid outfit. i forgot muramasa had 2 and only remembered the sexy one lol. her first scene is after kageaki becomes a depressed drunkard and i felt like it added some nice characterization to him. the other one that was pure fanservice was with young sayo. i stand by my statement that pretty much all the heroine ero scenes add characterization to kageaki that we normally don’t see though. the reader sees the extent of kageakis violent self loathing and how badly impregnating his step mom affects him (which both are foundations for the rest of his character in the game) pretty much only during sex

>>50174273
Was it stated why she left?

>>50174094
you guys cant be serious that right looks better
the dude went from an actual dude to a twink look at his twig arms

I dont mind ero content in BL at all just wish they would remove the anal sex

Finished the common route of Tokyo Onmyouji, guess I was a bit harsh on MC based on his appearances, he's actually written as a gay dude. I'll probably only do the criminal's route, from what I've seen people glaze him the most.

>>50176540
This anon gets me

>>50176800
I found all boys to be pretty good (except the shikigami).

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>>50174494
How can you even say that when Azuma's whore moaning is hands down the best part of the game

Azuma should have fucked a cute girl and moaned like a whore from her abuse like he wanted to in the first place.

Lesson's sex scenes were super hot and perfectly hit most of what I like.
I guess it needed a couple more different
>kento can't move and Yoshifumi has to take care of him!
scenarios. But it had the classic nipple sucking while jerking him off so I'm fine.

>>50178999
real. i wanted to see a couple more takafumi softdom/topping from the bottom scenes too but i ain’t complaining. the ero was some of the hottest ero ive read in a while and the moans were so kino. i have so many choked off trying not to lose it kento moans saved eheh

>>50179114
It's amazing they actually did an extra cg for his perspective from plenty of his sex scenes.
And I agree his softdom was just REALLY hot, Takafumi is how you write a straight, kinda stoic guy with experience bottoming.

Is lkyt or lesson best parade game?

>>50176540
What would the point of that be?

>>50179810
Gay sex is better and more erotic without anal

>>50179306
>straight

>poo dick sex scenes
Yes, very deep, immersive and necessary for peak KINO BLge...

>>50180849
this but unironically

>>50179306
REALLL. some of the cgs of blushy flustered kento from takafumi perspective were so fucking peak. the age and experience difference was used perfectly here for maximum ero… and kentos progression from horny and confused to horny and knowing what he wants was so so good… goddamn the scene with disheveled takafumi… it made the pain of takafumi route all worth it…

>>50181163
>goddamn the scene with disheveled takafumi
Peak of the game's porn.

>>50181246
parade said getting your ass ate cures depression

I only done the doctors route on slow damage. Am i missing out on good shit?

>>50182613
The final route makes the game, pretty much.
Luckily, rei and what's his name are irrelevant if you want to skim through them.

>>50182613
Yes, Taku was best boy by miles but the true route had the best story

>>50178999
There should have been a scene of embarrassed Kento pooping and Yoshifumi cleaning up after him

slowdamage was too foidbrained desu

>>50186268
I genuinely felt it needed a diaper scene or two, too many mentions of it.
Burt I guess that would have been way too fetish-y.

>>50186442
What does this even mean

>>50187151
Towa was literally a woman personality wise

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Hmm will this dude be the obligatory rapist route from the new Holicworks VN ? Ngl I wasn't expecting that.

>>50186442
Isn't BL supposed to be like that though? I think it's probably only the parade games where it actually feels like the gayshit doesn't involve men being like women but with a penis.

>>50187325
I think his coping mechanisms were something you would expect more from a woman, but he didn't act like a woman otherwise to me.

>>50186862
yea there were a lot of references at the start but it felt more like it was trying to emphasize how helpless kento is right after his accident (not being to wipe your own ass as a 20 year old is fucking humiliating esp considering the kind of mentality he had before living with takafumi). if they had actual poop scenes it 100% would’ve been too fetish coded and it felt like they were really trying to avoid going too deep into the fet side of things there were a looooot of opportunities for hardcore scenes revolving around kentos abuse and even time in juvie but all of it was basically only referenced to in passing and there was only one minor cg

>>50188073
Pee would have been fine!
That's more or less ok!
And I was surprised they didn't actually show his dad raping him, considering they did a cg for it.

Anal sex is disgusting if not prepped right and a man’s prostate can be stimulated in other ways. Rubbing dicks together is better. That or huffing/eating each others neck and pits and nips, etc.

>>50188096
I liked that in lesson, it takes Takafumi several attempts to even start feeling good.

>>50188081
I KNOW i would’ve loved to see a piss scene and esp kento actually getting raped because i’m a fucking goblin but alas. i guess they wanted to go relatively vanilla to keep the game more serious or grounded, idk… ive said it way too many times already but the ero that was in the game was so hot i didnt mind that everything was pretty vanilla but just imagine what we could’ve had………

An anon that can share the lesson cgs?

All I want to know is if the dudes in lesson end up together or they part cause not going to bother otherwise.

>>50188152
in the true ending they have hot seggs and it's basically all but explicitly stated that they end up together

>>50162321
Do you use reddit? There's a BL sub and I've seen before people asking help for projects. There's aarin too but idk if it's still active that forum.

>>50188140
You can download them from Aarin.

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Sex with Niichan

>>50188081
>And I was surprised they didn't actually show his dad raping him, considering they did a cg for it.
Huh? I don't rememeber his

>>50170581
>>50174273
What drama? What did I miss?

>>50188837
it’s in the true ending idk how you can miss this because they even talk about it in some detail. there’s a couple of cgs of the scrapbook of photos his stepdad took that documented the rape/assault of takafumis wife as well as kento, his aneki and his imouto

>>50188804
Thanks sis! Holy based leg hair kino! The pubes kino too.

>>50188945
It was missing some armpit.

>>50188873
You know, before getting a more in depth infodump on his past I thought Takafumi had married his older sister and after she killed herself due to her past trauma and was using him to get rid of his father.
Then I thought he was one of his dad's other sons and was using him for the reasons above.

>>50190954
before the reveal i was pretty confident that kento killed or assaulted someone. after the scene where takafumi is like “you’re like a little kid to me, i feel like i’m exploiting you”, kento has some internal monologue where he’s thinking about how he’s not a kid anymore, how legally and socially no one would think of him as a kid, how the next time he fucks up he’s getting sent to the slammer for real, and how the media would even use his real name the next time, etc. i just wasn’t sure if it was takafumis wife (the fact takafumi had a wife and there was almost no info on her in side A was suspicious as hell) or his stepdad or someone else. up until the end of side B i was still in doubt that kento killed takafumis wife because it made no sense why takafumi would fuck the man who killed her lol. honestly even now this is still the one part of the plot i think is pretttttyyyyyy contrived but i won’t nitpick it

>>50192211
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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>>50192231
Cope

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jaypee no longer even has any meidos to clean up after tourists, baka desu senpai

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We need more uke on seme violence ngl.

>>50193222
This game was so boring, only senpai route was good for the uke being a total slut for his dick

Why was this deleted >>50192211 but this >>50192247 was left up

>>50193430
One was more masculine than the other. We do not tolerate masculinity here.

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>>50176800
Not finished yet with it but I can already tell the glazing was justified, I'm loving their dynamic and chemistry. So far I have no critics of the route which is very rare cause I'm critical of everything lol.

>>50200177
Meguro best boi
But also the route where MC is more annoying

>>50200480
So far I didn't have any problems with MC, I loved how he >! prevented Meguro from potentially committing suicide by purposefully riling him up into angry sex lol. !<

>>50202007
Fuck spoilers tags.

how are there this many newfags in this thread lol. use square bracket spoiler for your spoiler tags [ spoiler] [/ spoiler] remove spaces
>>50202007
you can delete the post click on the ellipses

Is dynamic chord any good?

Thinking of trying Tokyo 24 ku, who's Best boy from there ? I lowkey dig everyone ar first except the childhood friend with glasses.

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>>50205700
For me it's Asuma.
The goodest boi, the cinnamon roll, protecc

>>50193430
>Still here but deleted the posts with the no no word.
It's so over.

>>50174145
They bought moshikami and blackish house too and need 4 or so bucks for panic palette.

Ok out of the 2 games which one should i start? I'm an EOP so how can i mtl from switch emulators?

>>50207544
You need Agent and the game’s corresponding script to hook Switch games. I haven’t seen a script for Moshikami or Blackish House yet, though. I don’t know about the Moshikami port but the Switch version of Blackish House apparently has no differences from the hookable PC version besides have a skip to choice option. I thought Side A was mid though

>>50190827
No armpit hair is criminal. Hirishis faint armpit hair still sexy 10+ years later.

>>50207544
>They bought moshikami and blackish house too
No they didn't. I see the releases from scene groups for these two games before they got posted on a-s.

Ikuina is such a cute. Why did they make him a side character like that.

Pit hair is gross

>>50169790
is that kageaki?

Is PillSlash not cooking up anything ? We've had a Parade game and soon Holicworks will also release a new VN. And from what I heard we've lost Nitro Flop to gacha shit.

>>50213283
...haha...

I always skip the brown LIs in games

I never skip the brown LIs in games

Is there even a genuine jeet/middle-easterner LI in any game produced in Nippon?

>>50216955
Madoka from tmgs1 is hafu Indian but he is cute. He does ask for bobs and vegana sometimes though.

>>50217440
Now imagine the school principal brown

>>50216955
A few otome are arab themed at least.
>>50217440
>works as a gas attendant
kek, truly jeetmaxxing

In jap games they look hot at least. Can't say the same for majority of eop ones...

Japs do seem to hate chinks with a burning passion. Most Chinese LIs are rapists, pimps, both and in general the worst pieces of shit imaginable.

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>>50217458
I hate arab themes so much. Why does that upcoming R18 otome has to be Arab themed.

>>50217652
Then why do they make so many chink themed games then? Chinks gets more translations than anyone else too. Based on Twitter, it seems like they hate arabs more than anything else nowadays.

>>50217672
Me too. I have massive aversion towards anything darker than khaki and arab/adjacent cultures in general. Everything else seems fine though. I wish these fuckers would make a Norse themed otome for once.

>>50217677
They hate them but not their money.

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What was Chinese sisters reaction to Yang and every Yang LI? Did they find it disrespectful or they hate Chinese men so they dgaf and actually find the descriptions accurate?

For me Arab themes come with scrote-ish fetishes like harems, slaves, defloration, NTR, anal, child brides and forced impregnation.

>>50217734
From what I saw, I've seen a few Chinese twitter users drawing him so he's at least appreciated. One popular otome LI from Chou no Doku who's "Chinese" but not really Majima is also really popular among them. As far as I can tell, it's mostly only Westerners getting mad over stereotypes in fiction. The rest of the world doesn't give a fuck.
>For me Arab themes come with scrote-ish fetishes like harems, slaves, defloration, NTR, anal, child brides and forced impregnation.
Yes, this is a big reason why I don't like Arab shit. I understand you can separate fiction and reality but knowing more about their fucked up culture/religion and the current impact is enough to annoy me slightly in otome. I'm going to still play the upcoming R18 otome though.

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Ooh I can def tell who's the writers' favorite.

https://www.otomate.jp/crazy_chain/gallery/

Ewww wtf is that what did they do to yomi her art in harukanaru looks good wtf is that gachaslop have better graphics.

Before playing it how long is the common route from Taishou Mebiusline ? Can't be longer than Kintouka's, can it ?

>>50221131
Looks AI generated like Virche's fandisc

>>50221131
I didn't think it was possible but somehow they managed to make the red haired guy way more hideous than he already was, seriously buff guy with no nose is a terrible combination.

>>50221131
Yomi was always mid and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Her art only became even worse and more like AIshit.

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I'm old now

>>50222215
>twintails and big boobs
hate this trash combo

>>50221131
How the fuck do you bitches dislike this art and suck yuras cock so fucking much?
I swear you have the worst fucking taste

>>50223601
Yura's art also sucks. You can enjoy the dick sucking lips of AI generated Yomi """"men"""" while I enjoy the work created by superior artists.

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>>50223601
Bitch can't your blind ass see the downgrade? Stop sucking otomates dick, this shit is bad. It's one step before they start selling you AI slop.
Do otomate cucks really- no fucking standards.

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>yura mentioned
Yuras art has been significantly improved compared. It's one thing not to like her art, but unlike yomi she didn't downgrade her art.

>>50224470
Not even downgraded they just dont have lips anymore and shes not using a texture filter

>>50221662
Eh red head looks generic but still alright.
It's the god guy that looks deformed and not in an interesting way.

>>50221131
Where did their nose go

>>50221131
inbreeding is bad Mokay

>>50224470
Not gonna lie half of the guys in Virche look like drag queens to me because of the longer more masculine jaws yet big, PUFFY pronounced lips mixed with the long hair and the fluttery eyelashes. Some of the more angled portraits also just look bad
The coloring is pretty good but otherwise the prettiest character was the nun mom and that's fucked up

>>50225115
lip fillers and extensions >>>>> AI sloppa looking Voldemort inbreds

>>50221131
Working on otomate must suck your soul out of your body. Maybe it's intentional and doesn't want the hackamura lil santa elve helpers copying her art for future projects.

>>50225527
no lol
who do you think AI learned from too desu? so dumb to call the artstyle AI stole AI

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>>50225531
*working for
Personally liked her kgk art the best.

>>50225538
??
Shit u said doesn't make sense?
Obviously AI copies shit, but if you draw something that looks like a copy pasta machine made, that's an L.

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Kek

>>50225552
wow you're legitimately retarded... gotcha

>>50225613
Go piggypay for gachaslop tier art lil cuck. TBA AI writing and voice acting.

>>50225719
>AI writing
This shit is becoming a thing. As for AI voice acting Chinese games already on it.

>>50225719
>paying for emulate games
??

In 50 years from now on plebs will see AI art as peak evolution, sad !

I knew that your average otomefags standards were low but not that low rolf.

>>50221131
Man i like yomi, but yeah this is pretty bad. Not exactly AI gen, but definitely generic and colorfully idol gacha-ish.

Who is your fav and least fav artist otome/bl sisters?

everyone arguing about the art but no ones talking about how the mc actually seems to have a personality for once or how the red haired li is a golden retriever type who scaled 3 floors of a building to climb into her window

>>50227820
Not stanning anyone particularly. The most I liked the art style of Haiiro no Arcadia, Galtia (minus the chopped CGs) and Taishou Mebiusline and they all have different artists apparently.

>>50227960
>red haired li is a golden retriever type who scaled 3 floors of a building to climb into her window
Did he fall face flat on the concrete and lose his nose on the process?

>>50227809
Current active ones that i consider the best are Yukihiro Utako and Sumeragi Kohaku. For bl Kurosawa Rinko.

>>50227820
Always liked kazuaki im so excited for key la box. +1 for kurosawa

>least fav but still play their games
>Hanamura Mai
Not because of moralfag reasons, after amnesia i just don't like her new style.
>Maeda Hirotaka
Only liked dance with devils.
>Yuuya
Not fun of her new one too, 9 rip was pretty good though.
>Yomi
Before virche fandisk.
As for bl I'd say Yura, but luckydog badegg art was top notch, great game too.

Otomate chased away the best artist they had, and that was Kazuki Yone. :( To this day many of their artists try to mimick her artstyle but will never be her.

>>50221131
Yomi is doing the cg lineart and the promo only. And not only Yomi but Satoi too and most artists. The coloring etc all done by assistants. That's either to reduce their workload or pay them less. (bet it's more the last reason)

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>>50228187
Like look. This was done 100% by Yomi. It's not her fault otomate are cheapskates and won't pay her normally/hire fully. Or maybe she's busy with other stuff and doesn't want to strain her hand or waste her skills for otomates sake. Otomate should hire better assistants overall.

>>50227960
>personality for once
Knowing Otomate, that personality will fall flat. You don't play any of that shit for the MC.

>>50225115
Otome LIs look more and more like drag queens as the years goes by desu. It's disgusting. I play otome to hit on and bang cute guys, not he/her/xir who recently came out from the gay parade.

>>50228600
Show what a good-looking LI from yonder days is like

>>50223601
Yura improved, Yomi got worse, cry harder slop sister

>>50227820
i wish norizane would do more BL especially in the style of her clockup designs. lesson goes without saying but i thought fuminari/togetsu, ore and tsunuga/brian were all pretty attractive. bit of a tangent and not sure if there’s anyone else like this here but i prefer the male designs in chuunige (like milgram my beloved, reinhard, kurou, grey, fafnir, glenfarth etc) over a lot of designs in blge which tend to look a bit weird to me sometimes. if i had to pick a strictly/predominantly bl artist then i’d say adelta
otome art has the problem i have with a lot of blge but dialled up to 11 so even though i play them it’s usually despite the art lol. satois probably my favourite

>>50229743
also i cant believe i forgot to mention SHISHIKU in my list of hot antagonists

>>50227820
I don't like the faces Hamashima Shigeo/Norizane would draw for their males but I love everything else they'd do, especially with the girls. I'm a big appreciator for more attractive anatomy and pubic hair so it's already a massive plus. Also, as someone who's a big sucker for otome art and drew a lot of inspiration from the style in my creations, I have a weakness for the coloring especially. Amano Chigiri is probably my favorite overall though. Simple designs but more effective imo. Majima is still very handsome.

>>50223601
>shitting on the piss queen
Pathetic

What's with all the jerking off for Furukawa Makoto ? I think the only VN I played where he appeared was Kintouka and he wasn't bad but he didn't seem to be all that either. Yet I've seen so many people ready to drop their panties over this man's voice lol.

>>50231976
In paradise you can save voice lines and about 80% of mine were Matsuda, he was great there

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https://www.dlsite.com/soft/work/=/product_id/VJ01003473/
surprise, the english version of club suicide is out!

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>>50233426
Do we have a reference for how good Garumani translations are, like with Friendly Lab? Never got around to cs so I would drop (almost) everything to hop on if the tl's not shit

Do otome fans hate old men LIs or do they only hate the way their routes are written?

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i agonizingly badly want hyuuga kaname carnally

but I want Mikihiko to take him most badly of all

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How is this VN ? I haven't Heard many people talk about it.

>>50234868
Cute and funny at the same time. The pedo bunny made me laugh a lot.

>>50235143
Forgot to mention that's pretty unhinged too. But kinda comfy in a way. Actually let me summarize it.

It's more like Alice in Pedoland but moving past that, plot goes like
>Alisumi lives with a crazy schizo mom
>pedo bunny comes to the rescue- but is being too pedo and has Alisumi wondering if living with schizo mom is still a better choice
>in the end it's not as schizomom tries to rape and kill Alisumi one day, so Pedoland it is
>he lands to pedoland and everyone is clapping their asscheeks and seem to know Alisumi from the past but Alisumi doesn't remember any of them
>Alisumi is apparently their only hope and the one who can save their pedo kingdom
>currently their king is a psycho that killed all the women in the land for some gay ass reason
>the kingdom has many retarded laws, they basically north korea 2.0- breath wrong and execution it is, but weirdest one of all is that if Alisumi says a forbidden word out loud, for some reason it always ends in mob gang rape end
>because this is a magic world, Alisumi needs some energy monster drink potions in order to survive there
>all the lis have their own unique monster drink, so Alice must choose whose pedo monster drink to drink
>the potion ofc has some totally accidental weird side effects
>the potions acts like an aphrodisiac, so the LIs excuse themselves to totally not Diddy up alisumi but help him with the "side effects".
So that's the plot basically, Alisumi trying to uncover wtf is wrong with the king and save the pedoland while he gets his ass groomed.

LIS consist of
>pedo white rabbit that comes out of vagina shaped holes
>mad hatter that's actually very polite, kind and cute and feels a lil guilty about his pedo lil feelings, but forgets about them the moment alisumi gets a boner
>terashima chuuni tsundere cheshire kitty boy, he's a cutie but he gets most ntr ends and suffers the most for some reason
>the yandere shota schizo twins dum and dee that are creeps and no one in the kingdom wants to be near them
>caterpillar that's always high as a kite, but is way too depressed and lazy so alisumis has to raping himself

And these side characters that get some bad ends in the main game but got their main routes in the fandisk.

>Jack who is actually a really good guy but gets the cuck treatment in the main game so devs gave him a route in the fd after the fans seethed
>And the king that's a dick and the reason behind everyone's and Alisumis misfortunes

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Hashihime is 10 years old

>>50232079
>>50231976
I like his deep voice but he never does it except Kintouka/Paradise.

BL fans being content with MTL ruined BL translations

>>50235813
It's a money issue but companies don't give much of a fuck for bl desu. You think they don't want to localize shingakkou?
But when you have translation fags like Molly Lee inserting eyepussy memes or shitty companies like dramatic create selling crappy R17 mtl ports, nobody is going to pay for these shit.
May whoever translates Ooe do a good job and save this dying hobby, for eops at least.

The reason that shingakkou isn't getting a translation is for moralfag reasons and you can't change my mind.

>>50235861
masquerade got localised and that has pedo shit and rape without even the justification of a good story so unlikely

>>50235861
I think that only applies to otome. How many school + non-Otomate otome actually got translated officially? The overseas audience is literally 12 and acts like 12, that's why.

>>50235813
Translations were always trash. Turns out if you're EOP, you're going to get the inferior product regardless of what you do.

>>50235851
eyepussy was correct though

>>50235989
naw the overseas otome audience includes nearing-30s/30s+. basically the same audience as booktok dark romance smut readers but weeb

>>50235861
>and you can't change my mind
Because you have a victim complex

>>50235400
Oh wow, I didn't expect a wall of text for this. I'll probably check it out eventually, it doesn't seem to be that long of a VN according to vndb.

>>50236006
How?

>>50235969
>>50235989
Nah the pedo stuff are fine just change school to academy and pretend that Abel is 20 years old. It's the religious themes. You underestimate Christian cucks.

Haven't Jast said they're not translating Shinggakkou cause they're too poor to afford the voice acting ?

Should've learned Japanese fujocucks

>>50236150
Midorins expensive moans saving shingakkou from the buttslut and cumdumpster treatment.

>>50236171
Akshually, more fujos speak jap compared to otomes, source my ass no im ruski.
And at least fujos try to experience the game even with shitty chopped mtl, unlike otomecucks who still can’t apply the damn dialovers patch and have been begging a hentai loc company to localize it for like 10 years straight rolf.

>russian
Gross. I'm offended poors are in this general.

The past 2-3 threads have been filled with fujos playing lesson in japanese what are you even yapping about

>>50236218
Have you played a recent bl russian patch? It's mtl putting Calabi Yau to shame.


>>50236226
Nobody is poor in russia the poor russians are in your country but always fly back here for free healthcare lol.

>>50236311
NTA but idk about bl but these two groups are active but do otome. Doesn't say mtl.
https://vndb.org/p12800
https://vndb.org/p4827
Our mebius fujo will always be remembered.

>>50236287
It's the usual poltard shitposter ignore it will get banned soon.

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>>50236373
>Яд бабочки, Цветочные оковы
Why nobody told me that they released the chou no doku patch in the end blyat.

Anyone that has played that?

>>50236405
>only black LI
>is the slave

>>50236125
the og word is also usd for genital

>>50236218
>have been begging a hentai loc company to localize it
Even funnier is the fact that they're now begging on the survey of some literal who "company" that came out of nowhere lmao

>>50239137
NTA but i know which company you mean and it's not even a company but just a random girl on otome twitter.

>>50237297
What is the og word? Because i remember it as just "secret/hidden place". But again even if it implied genitals a more delicate word was more appropriate since the original one didn't have the intention to meme-fy that scene.

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>>50239137
Otome EOPs are both cucked with their tastes and having even a modium of tech literacy to do the simplest things but let it be. I don't want them near any of my favorites.

>>50239618
Yes that french i assume by the name girly but please don't bully her she has no ill intentions and doesn't seem bad just too delulu thinking that asking otomate for localization and voice acting rights is just a walk to Starbucks and costings around 3-5k lol.

>tokimeki has both ds and switch eng patches, first one comes patched so can just throw it on an emulator
>dialovers have switch and vita patches too but also dumblr ones
I can't-

>>50239825
IIRC brothers conflict has a patch too, my otome friend was playing it.
Some EOPS still beg Jast for lamento and reconnect so it's really tech illiteracy which is embarrassing in this day.

>>50239264
Yeah, that's the reason i put "company" in quotation marks, it's just a woman with a dream (supposedly tho, she has experienced translators in her contacts if those discord screenshots were real)
>>50239618
Listen i know nothing of clock zero, just skimmed through the vndb summary, but wouldn't the entire setting be a massive turn off for eops? The protagonist is a 12 year old little girl that turns into an adult whenever she's dreaming, would that elicit the "eww pedo" response from a lot of players?

>>50240120
why does everyone think eops are pearl clutchers based off a super vocal minority on twitter and reddit (known cesspools)? most of them don't care about problematic fiction or actively like it (look at any discord that doesn't have said vocal minority as active posters). like am i the only person here who has seen all the thirst towards the DV types and yanderes? some of the opinions in this thread are so removed from reality it makes me feel like i'm the delusional one.

>>50240120
>clock zero
I think it's more like one of those highly shilled games EOPs just simply took interest over the years. While there are a lot of retards who take offense by "pedo" content nowadays, a retarded EOP will always nitpick at anything. All the drama is probably enough for a lot of English otome localizations to not happen where all ages companies like Aksys would rather play safe. Club Suicide likely got the okay because the zoomer author is LGBT.

>>50240730
Meds.

>>50240651
I don't get it either because I've seen plenty of EOPs try to one up each other in those cesspools over who is into the most "problematic" content lol

>>50240651
I admit i did exaggerate with the last part of my reply, but nigga there's an obvious difference between a game with adult male yanderes and a game whose cast are kids that turn into adults when they sleep, i'm sorry but the two aren't comparable
>>50240730
>highly shilled games
So basically the umineko of otome games?

>>50241177
>umineko of otome
That's probably Virche. It has several characters who look like transsexuals too.

>>50241177
shota/loli, incest and other relationships that are abusive or have large power differentials are hugely popular with eops. there are vocal minorities everywhere but it's nowhere the level some people on this general seem to think it is. it's not like everyone on here likes "problematic" content either. i've seen plenty of anons here who don't like rape, mesubuta, dv, dadson/unclenephew and so on with some even bashing on people for liking those things but no one would call this general a group of pearl clutchers lol.

>>50240651
This thread of full of miserable hags that can only find a sense of worth in thinking they're better than some random fat plebbitor

>>50241294
>shota/loli
>hugely popular with eops
I don't know about that one

>>50241502
if you were active in any community besides this general, aggregator social media like public reddit/twitter or dead forums you would see there is a plethora of original and fan content involving an older man character in often openly predatory relationships with a 12-17 year old character. it’s just no one openly announces these kinds of fetishes except in anonymous or closed communities because of the very vocal minorities who will witch-hunt you for liking this. that doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of people who love this fetish though.

>>50241588
>older man character in often openly predatory relationships with a 12-17 year old character
Yeah that isn't that uncommon, but I barely see otome eops into shota or younger LIs in general. With fujo eops it's another story.

>>50241693
ok true maybe not otome eops specifically but i do see yumes write a lot of self insert fic with the older man with a girl/younger woman dynamic. i don't think older woman with a boy/younger man is nearly as popular among women though, just judging by tags. i think if there were actual otome games with the former dynamic they would have an audience but eops are more partial to written fanworks than making actual games and the ones who tend to make games are usually politically correct xhe/xir types.

I think there's something inherently wrong with women that like younger men

>>50244272
If that's wrong then I don't want to be right.

What would y'all consider the most vanilla JP BL VN ?

>>50244807
Pigeon blood

>>50244807
Room n9

>>50244807
Shingakkou and Bara no Ki.
The MCs do not get groomed or anything like that. It's pure love and romance. Don't let the agegaps fool you.

>>50244807
Holicworks VNs are vanilla leaning for the most part, except Senge I guess.

>>50244807
hashihime except for that one thing

What's the most braindead take y'all heard about any VN ?

>>50248445
That code realize is kamige.

>>50248445
any reason to play gacha trash like WHB

>>50248445
"This was good but the bl felt unnecessary" about BL VN with a romance focused.

>>50248445
>>50249111
Also these dudes who act like every scene is rape because the uke says yada or whatefver. I've seen people call hashihime first scene noncon

>>50249111
That just means "I hate faggots", which is a valid statement.

>>50249111
That's such a pick me statement that makes me laugh everytime. Imagine seething over a game genre that releases 3 games every 3 years.

>>50249116
at worst it’s dubcon. sometimes i read takes that leave me wondering if im actually rapist

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still thinking about them </3

where do you even find a community that doesn't lose its mind over an age gap or incest, or isn't 15 year olds obsessed with enstars and genshin? all i can find is asian artists

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>>50249116
Yada ukes are annoying AF desu, I love King Meguro even more for shutting that shit down.

>>50249153
the only good thing about uuultrac

>>50249235
I can't even find one that can handle age gaps where the heroine is older.

>>50249148
If random takes about porn games makes you seriously wonder that then yeah, you've got a problem.

>>50249235
Nowhere. Unless you make your own Discord server and take the responsibility to kick out undesirables and keep the group small. I know some anons here are interested in this.

>>50249111
To be fair, a lot of times faggotry is unnecessary.

>>50249153
tfw no alien adopted brother mommy wife (male)

>>50249124
>>50250912
>Read BL VN
>Hate gayshit
Otomefags are so retarded

>BL shilled endlessly by fujos
>please PLAY my KAMIGE
>"no thanks, that's gayshit"
>REEEEeee you have shit taste!!
>non-fujo plays BL for the writing/story
>"I liked it even though I didn't like the gay sex"
>REE YOU'RE ReTARDED
kek

And what BL games can you even play for the story where you ignore the gay sex/romance ? Shinggakou maybe ?

>>50251814
Fake scenario.

>>50251814
You are the retard one

>>50248445
>>50251814

>samefagging three times in anger
Struck a nerve huh

>they don’t agree with me so they’re samefagging

>they
>pronounfaggot seething people don't like gay sex
of course

>Thinking plural they is xhe/xir bullshit
Meds.

>>50251814
Truth nuke.

>>50252658
Idk but I feel like you can read a lot of things technically without caring the romance/sex personally imo. Gay stuff isn't my cup of tea either but I don't skip anything, that's just missing out anything plot related.
I don't think it's retarded or being a pick me to try to appreciate more things while not being crazy what's in front of the screen at the same time. People got different expectations and priorities when experiencing anything.

>>50253626
they’re porn games you fucking nerd, you experience them with your genitals. if they don’t make you horny you missed the fucking point

Anyone played Club Suicide? Is it good or is it just gendieslop? Serious responses only pls

>>50253834
The dev is a pick me they/them gendie who nuked all her other projects because she got one bad email. Still, she is actually talented i give her that.
She advertised the game in a very pick me way like “not your typical otome game” but it ended up being surprisingly good. The writing is pretty good. I would not call it an otome, more like a dating sim with otome flavor/elements.
The boys are cute, the heroine is funny, and as for the gendie stuff, i would be lying if i said there was none. But it is not the western kind of gendie stuff or writing. It is stuff you have already seen in shoujo or seinen manga. It's just that western fans read these differently because of cultural gaps or just brainrot.
But played it in jap so cannot tell you how accurate the translation is or how the translator handled those parts.

>>50254297
NTAYRT but does the game have a tranny?

>>50254318
For me no, he just likes crossdressing and larping as a yuri heroine because of his yurifag brainrot, same way western fujos larp as omegas and ukes. The whole “ I hate myself/i hate being a man” thing is mainly because of his abusive dad, not because he feels he was born in the wrong body.

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>>50248445
>We felt that removing a quarter of the script was necessary to enhance the script so that it would meet the high standards set by the localization team.

>>50255893
Funny how people keep on forgetting English translations were always fucking garbage even back then lmao

>>50255893
LOL for what reason did they do that what did they remove?

>>50255935
You can read the whole article here if you're deadly curious.
>https://web.archive.org/web/20080930165049/http://nnl1.com/wind/methodology.html
This translation is so bad I imagine even a few non-Japanese readers will be able to spot a few errors just from what they posted on this page.

The section towards the bottom where they give up all pretenses and just start directly insulting the original authors is a personal favorite of mine. Especially as it's followed up by the final paragraph where they praise Working Designs and gush about how excited they are to fill the story with memes and in-jokes.

Honestly I'd be 100% sure this was a parody if it wasn't for the fact that the translation was actually released.
Still the only English translation of Wind, by the way.

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>>50255962
>>>Working Designs
fucking kek

>>50253816
Every BL is a nukige now

>>50256581
You aren't a true intellectual consumer of BL kamige unless you masturbate to censored homoslop and then tell everyone you like it.

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He's so cute. Interesting game so far.

>>50259726
i'm guessing this is the switch version? let us know if there's any censorship

>>50260099
Yes the new version, im using the new eden emulator version if you are using an emulator. So far no censorship it's the exact same one, even has the same skip bug issue with the vita one lol.
Oh yeah important tip! It has a skip to the next choice but that one skips unread text too.

>>50259726
im playing this atm too and didn't know that haruka was intersex

外見だけを見れば、ほぼすべての人が 「私を女だと思うだろう。
けれど、その身体の中には身体的に女であることを決定づける機能が欠如していた。
男でもあり、女でもある。 けれと言い換えれば男でもなく、女でもない。

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>tranny game
dropped, knew something was up with this overly shilled sloppa. can't trust average Otomefag nowadays

>>50260165
More lore

外見だけを見れば、ほぼすべての人が 「私を女だと思うだろう。
けれど、その身体の中には身体的に女であることを決定づける機能が欠如していた。
男でもあり、女でもある。 けれと言い換えれば男でもなく、女でもない。
自分はどこにも属せない、酷く中途半端な人間なのだと。そう思う気持ちは日に日に強くなっていくばかりだ。
だからなのか、たとえ誰かと一緒にいる時でもひとりでいるような気がして仕方がなかった。

>>50260165
She's not. There's a sad reason behind this.

>>50260174
Tbh it's only shilled because it has a schizo onii-chan. It's a pretty unremarkable game otherwise.

>>50258728
Dont forget the fact that its probably MTLed too kek

Going through Taishou Mebiusline rn, the plot's starting to be engaging but damn is this the most savior complex MC I've ever encountered.

Is it me or does moshikami have a long as route?

>>50263804
Fuck me
long ass prologue/common route*

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I'm still on the prologue i think?? and it's still unclear wtf is even happening. For now what we know:
>Haruka for some reason has attracted perverts since she was a kid and keeps almost getting kidnapped or assaulted
>amnesia chan 2.0, the whole world seems to want her dead as she keeps falling down stairs or getting pushed onto train tracks
>bullied at school but too meek to fight back
>born without a vagina?? but also not a dick??
>her wishes seem to become true?
>her brother is suspiciously kind
>her mother who is kind of creepy, totally ignores the brother and insists he’s a tulpa who doesn’t exist!!!!
>she’s having an existential crisis and honestly fair with what's happening to her so far

Main LIs seem pretty cute so far and consist of:
>Neji, the genki baka track team kun
>Ace the poster boy kuudere autist (who will probably die of diabetus before 30 because he drinks 3 liters of cola a day instead of water)
>Kyou the school Beverly Hills rebel,who is actually a chill,cool,kind dude
>Shuri your standard Kaji Yuki shota LI, but giving lowkey unhinged vibes
>Masato niichan who is way too kind (and Midorikawa absolutely nails the role sasuga)

So all four boys along with the mc Haruka, get forced one way or another into joining the school committee and deciding the destination for their school trip.
They start to get along well but all keep getting weird deja vu flashbacks at random moments.

And then we’ve got the three suspicious transfer student NPCs we cannot fucking fuck:
>mr. stick up my ass 24/7
>sexy slut
>Akiraaaaaaa
Criminal not to give at least Akira a damn route.

I’m doing Ace first since most walkthroughs say to start with him.
Also most of the OSTs are bangers.
So, so far it’s pretty SOL but the shit is definitely about to start popping off soon.

Any upcoming bl eop releases besides ooe and paradise fd?

>>50264517
Can you spoiler your messages?

>>50240651

I think its because western fandom of any media tends to be more hostile towards "problematic" or "morally questionable" topics, especially teens (worse case scenario, even young adults). Otome/vns in general are mostly played by adults over 21 (from my experience), and have the brain capacity to differentiate fiction from reality. Less teens in a fandom = better overall

>>50264575
Togainu no Chi True Blood (the vanilla version with the extra red head LI). Actually I'm wondering when it'll come out as his release is supposed to be this year.

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Gay mob rape really hits different when it's from a a normal eroge and not BL.

>>50266300
more eroge protags should be mob raped desu

>>50266300
It'd hit different if they actually showed it.

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Do you know if lilac will be r18? Looks interesting.
https://vndb.org/v48262

>>50266617
The publisher hasn't touched anything R18 before, probably no.

>>50266699
I see thanks anon i'll play it regardless i love the littlewitch artist a lot.

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As it should be.

>>50266300
Kinugasa is such an interesting writer. With this and the homo ending in Reminiscence...

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We still don't know about this ScoobyDoo mystery.

>>50250687
Unless someone takes the initiative and makes one, it's never happening. I could a few months ago but with my country's new laws I can't. Can't even Google shota for the shits and giggles.

>>50268158
British?
If so it won’t be long for this site either, they’re investigating it so it’ll probably be banned.

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>>50193357
Who wouldn't be a slut for Senpai's dick desu ?

>>50270711
yes...
I know and that should be coming quite soon. So desperate enough to even join a livejournal secrid group kek.

>odalisque crowdfunding finished
>reached 510% of their goal
Can more otome game companies see that

>>50270986
>Literally has a line in the drama cd extra where he literally says he loves his dick
>Can barely tolerate sex with the other 2

>>50271065
I’ve just given up. I’ve heard some real horror stories, it’s safest to stay out of online communities like that where people could be posting all kinds of shit that ends up entangled with your digital footprint. Unless you’re into shota there should theoretically not be an issue but you never know what they’ll ban next.

There are tons of community where you can discuss problematic shit. You just need to look. Like just try scanlator groups who scan weird shit.

>>50272230
Yes but but they don't play visual novels...

There aren't even any shota-centric games anyway besides a couple non-serious ones, what is this problematic stuff you want to discuss?

Shotacons, the oppressed class...

>>50272520
No i don't wanna discuss shota specifically. In general jp media are heavily censored regardless of genre here. If you saw what you can buy on Steam you'd laugh. 70% stuff blocked.
I just want a place the shitty brit government can't block. They block VPNs even. So being a member of a discord for example is very different from being its admin. Next plan is to block 4chan anyway and not just for britfags but yuropfags as well.

>>50272520
langmaor…..

>>50272710
Damn, that's grim. If they block vpn but the block is from your ISPs side, you can look into DPI circumvention tools (like goodbyeDPI), it sadly won't work if it's the site itself that's refusing britbong IPs.

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kek to the random rejet pedos

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and kek to me too

Rejet sure loves motherson more than oniichans.

>>50272710
just make a discord if you’re so desperate . you’re massively over exaggerating how bad the bans gonna be.

I don't understand why some VNs be hiding the CGs and scenes till you finish a route baka.

>>50272252
No one does, VN is a dead medium.

are BL games mostly targeted to women or to gay men? Is there any statistic on this

>>50275264
u cant be fr

>>50275264
Faggots cant create anything good, BLVN are for fujos

>>50275264
Roasties and gay men seethe about this but BL VNs have male protagonists with feminine personalities/manners and themes which appeal to otaku women more. You don't need statistics when fujoshi writers dominate the medium.

>>50272710
If you want something solve, do it yourself. This general is always full of people who say "I wish" but do absolutely nothing but make excuses to not do something.

>>50275264
Bara is supposed to be for gay dudes but I like BL VNs as well. It doesn't matter at the end of the day, just play what you like.

>>50275284
Most fujos works are based on stuff guys write.

>>50275264
>>50275264
The target is women but it doesn't' matter. BL is the only genre where people obsess over the target audience. No one goes "you're a girl so you can't enjoy shounen". Mostly twitter retards think all gays like bara and all girls like yaoi.

>>50275353
Heck, most BL fandoms are based on stuff guys write. I don't get the whole obsession over target aduiences.

Homofaggot coping hours

Fujochan retards throwing a fit because their site is still dead. Sad.

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This looks interesting

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>>50275730
GOAT is back

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Well the honest answer would be cause he's hotter than you kek.

>>50276548
Shigure best boi

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What the fuck is even going on. I'd lie if I said that the game isn't interesting so far tho.
Didn't expect the random sword faggings.