What causes this phenomena?
>>62858999Hellghast did nothing wrong.
>>62858999looks cool/thread
>>62858999Your average video game nerd hasn't actually worn a gas mask before and tried to do anything in it. Anyone who has looks at that, and thinks "damn sucks to be that guy".
Cause everyone saw the Iranian Embassy raid and thought "that's cool" and it has never stopped being cool.
>>62859028/thread
>>62858999Male disposability being celebrated to such a degree some men like the idea of having their identity fully stripped of them and bring fully dehumanizedAlso it looks badass
>>62858999Because they all fight evil.
>>62859156>Male disposabilityA strange interpretation, I would say its appealing because it doesn't become about the man himself whose face we see, but his actions that we see instead
>>62858999The desire to be a badass looking character without pretentiousness. Or just autism.
>>62859030Ive played video games while smoking out of bong gasmask and it was actually pretty badass like op says
>ywn pacify WMD-wielding miscreants on the urban jungle coastline;_;
>>62859156I don't think it's a celebration of men being disposable or wanting to be disposable, but being able to relate to the expendable nobody and appreciating them having actual purpose and being able to succeed at it.
>>62859178>>62859307I think the other guy is right, but maybe he misspoke.I would argue that it's the *anonymity* of the gas mask soldier which makes him appealing. very similar to the silent protagonist, the anonymity of the gas mask means any of our faces could be under there. He becomes, in a way, the ubermensch.Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
>>62859366The real Ubermensch were the friends we made along the way
>>62859307>I don't think it's a celebration of men being disposableThen why partner this with a picture of the death korps?
Fallout faggotHelghanJin-RohImp Guard Stormtrooper???Imp Guard Krieger??????
>>62858999Hell yeah.
>>62860076Umbrella spec opsMetal Gear XOFSAS from COD4
>>62859178>>62859307These niggas get it. Anonymity in war = BAD ASS unironically
>>62859307>removes gas maskOk heretic I think you've outlived your usefulness. Face the wall.
>>62858999I think there's a certain masculine urge to cover your face, your entire head even. Maybe it's the same psychology that saw tribes wearing masks and the like to war. There is a certain psychology to wearing a helmet that makes one feel a lot safer, even if the helmet isn't going to do all that much. That feeling of safety must increase if the helmet also covers your face, or even just wearing a mask (gas mask, balaclava) that you know consciously isn't going to protect you from harm, at least not in the same way as a helmet will, in conjunction with a helmet.
>>62859000Sor those were ISA boioweapuns sor, u most beleev, soooooor
>>62858999All I want in life is to be relatively protected from my surroundings and the elements, and have no dickhead try to read my expression or freak out because I'm not making eye contact.
>>62859156We aren't less human because of the uniforms and masks. If anything we are at our most human then.
>>62858999vroom vroom
>>62859366Holy shit dude, I wonder why it could be that I agree with you.I mean we all agree you need voice modulators to go with OPs image, right? So everyone is forced to listen to the specific literal content of our words.
>>62859030i was wearing gas mask outside when there was pandemic, and it was super comfortable
>>62859028Yes, but WHY is it so cool?
>>62860292
New Vegas is kind of novel in that it made the democratic faction look cool and the dictatorial faction look retarded.
>"democratic">if you're not born a brahmin baron, you will live and die a nobody who is conscripted by said barons to die like a bitch in the desert while they party it up in casinos>"dictatorial">strictly meritocratic, if you can kill people good without dying then advancement and influence will be yours
>>62859000Nah, I personally believe Hellghast got off easy
>>62860526I just like patrolling the Mojave while wishing for a nuclear winter.
>>62860526Nearly everyone can get the cash to Vegas at some point in their lives, including most soldiers.
>>62858999Its not just gas masks, almost every full face helmet has a sort of intangible appeal to it. From scifi shit like pic related
>>62860600I think Its moneky brain saying knights were cool as fuck in their full plate and we want to look like knights and they had full face helmets
>>62859030company commander made us play football wearing gas masks and vest. In 36 degrees heat.
>>62859307Guardswoman, your hair is in violations, hanging beyond the seal of your gasmask.I hear the Commisar himself say you look like a bum.POLEEECE THOSE BANGS!Y'all startin" to look like heretics!
>>62859307>krieg girlThey would never send a woman to fight.She would be busy giving birth to actual Krieg men.
>>62860471I did that too. It was a bit uncomfortable, but not too bad, and I liked the feeling of being insulated from the outside world.
>>62860609>what are Vitae Womb
>>62860471I don't consider "walking around outside" to be doing anything.>>62860605And I'm sure you wouldn't do it again voluntarily.
Propaganda of course.AlsoJin Roh is a dogshit anime and I want these 2 hours of my life back
>>62860517The Legion doesn't look bad per se, it's just the tribal aesthetic given a Roman coat of paint.I think it's far more novel that both societies have their problems and neither one can really be said to be the "good guy", it's a lot more complicated than just that. On that note, both are portrayed in a somewhat cool way I think, the only instance I can think of where one armor set hard mogs all the others is the Ranger armor, which was so cool that they made non-faction variants of it across 2 entire DLCs. Probably also noteworthy as being the only time non-power armor was featured on the cover of a Fallout game.>>62860526All of those can be true. Being a democracy doesn't automatically make you a utopian wonderland (nor, in fact, does it mean you actually have rights as a citizen. See Europe), and likewise being a dictatorship doesn't automatically mean you're a backwards shithole that tortures puppies as a national pasttime. Ironically enough, the individual rights of people in England were quite good under feudalism thanks to the Magna Carta and successive English Bills of Rights (the precursors to the American Bill of Rights). It was only after the establishment of a parliamentary system that those documents guaranteeing the rights of man were increasingly disregarded under the pretense that your elected officials, who are theoretically your fellow citizens, would surely never vote to fuck you over. It's not like they gain a lot of wealth and just treat themselves differently due to their status as government officials while cracking down on the cattle.Ultimately, what assures rights is the willingness of the people to defend those rights with armaments. It is easier in a republican system, but you can just as easily lose your rights due to negligence or loss of your armaments. This is why the Second Amendment is so important. It is arguably the cornerstone of our way of life, and the freedom of mankind.
>>62860767>Probably also noteworthy as being the only time non-power armor was featured on the cover of a Fallout game.because unlike todd, Avellone and Sawyer understood that you don't have to slap power armor on the front of the cover, you have to show which faction is in it's ascendency. as for your legion argument, it's running on fumes, and unlike NCR, has no modern infrastructure, that's why even if they take dam and vegas, they're still loosing to NCR
>>62860783>has no modern infrastructureThe Legion considers this a feature, not a bug
>>62860786legion is whiped the moment they enter NCR proper. especially since NCR has CAS in form of vertibirds, and gunruners can make some interesting stuff. not to mention that NCR basically decimated BOS, at the cost of their federal gold reserveshttps://youtu.be/fK-msJg6BEw?si=uzBfl3HWroGADqNl
>>62859030>wearing gasmaskIt was alright.>wearing gasmask on CBRN day where you gotta cover your face neck and hands in decontamination powder which for training is just baking powder but its raining so it turns to grainy sand that sticks to your skin between the skin and rubber from your mask continuously reminding you its there every secondShit sucked.
>>62860595>Nearly everyone can get the cash to Vegas at some point in their lives, including most soldiers.Not really implied, though tee bee hach travel wouldn't be super expensive if you saved up a few hundred caps, maybe a thousand (though that's still a significant amount). Enough to bribe some road patrols and pay for food and water.Better if you take work along the way. NCR caravaneers still need to hire guards so if you can take a few of those jobs on the route over you'll be in a good spot.>>62860783>because unlike todd, Avellone and Sawyer understood that you don't have to slap power armor on the front of the cover, you have to show which faction is in it's ascendency.Which is blatantly not the NCR, given how they're losing the way in the Mojave.>as for your legion argument, it's running on fumes, and unlike NCR, has no modern infrastructure, that's why even if they take dam and vegas, they're still loosing to NCRWe don't really know Legion infrastructure. We know they're less developed then the NCR, but we also know that Legion territory is essentially completely safe - which is an important point to note.>running on fumesBlatantly incorrect. The NCR are mentioned at least twice I can think of (at the mojave outpost and 188 trade point) as sending poorly trained and poorly equipped soldiers to the front, as well as doing things like reassigning prison guards. There's mention of potential NCR bankruptcy, as well. They've also run out of body armor to supply to troops (again mentioned at the 188 trade point).None of this applies to the Legion. They use some child suicide bombers but that's doctrine, not desperation. They aren't rushing anyone through training, and they certainly aren't running out of supplies or cash. The NCR are a nation on the brink of collapse and they NEED Vegas, or a friendly vegas willing to do business with them, to survive.>>62860789This is 100% headcannon. NCR never use or mention vertibirds as air support.
>>62860789The NCR has barely any vertibirds and does not use them as CAS.The legion has access to missile launchers as well.>gun runners Primarily refurbish guns and produce some upgrades or replacement parts.Even the NCR service rifle is pre-war according to Sawyer.>NCR basically decimated BOSThey didn't.The NCR took massive casualties ,their economy is fucked and the BoS still controls their major bunkers like Lost Hills.
>>62860783>because unlike todd, Avellone and Sawyer understood that you don't have to slap power armor on the front of the cover,Which is obviously why Avellone and Sawyer slapped a power armor on the front of the cover of 1 and 2, right? Right?
>>62859049Guys will see that and just think>I'm not going. I hope they kill you.
>>62860609Krieg women are more or less sterile from the nukes.
>>62858999Stoicism is cool. Its the same reason why sunglasses make you look cooler. Hiding facial features hides emotion, and changes you from a scared pussy into an emotionless stoic killer.
>>62861052>We don't really know Legion infrastructure. We know they're less developed then the NCR, but we also know that Legion territory is essentially completely safe - which is an important point to note.take note that legion is rulling over less urbanisedd parts of USA, and they needed less manpower to pacify it. also we see that legion is autocratic, and there's no one to play the role of Augustus.
>>62861179Caesar dying before he takes vegas is a big hit to the future development of the legion, yeah.
>>62859156Never understood this complaining about "male disposability" or whatever. Maybe it's because I grew up in what is still a mostly patriarchal culture, but I always felt satisfied with this setup that feels like a "deal" or bargain of sorts, i.e>Men are the dominant sex in society for 99% of normal life, you have the privileges of being in charge during peacetime>-BUT you also have the responsibility of being the designated defense/walls/guard when shit hits the fan and you have to defend your society from something It's a trade, you don't get everything for free I suppose.
>>62860767>the individual rights of people in England were quite good under feudalism thanks to the Magna Carta and successive English Bills of RightsThe Magna Carta was only for aristocracy, it's legend as some sort of contract to protect the little man is just a legend, the peasantry were still peasantry and didn't see any significant changes in their lives.
>>62861158Dishonest to suggest 1980s Britain to 2020s Britain are the same thing. There are innumerable reasons why one may love the former and wish they could have protected it while despising the latter. Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer are easily both in the top 0.0001% of most despised people in the world at the moment.
>>62861230legion's lack of any form of civic goverment, like for example senatus, and no plan of succesion is what dooms it in a long term. even if kimball is assassinated, NCR can sill funcion
>>62861250>Dishonest to suggest 1980s Britain to 2020s Britain are the same thing.They fundamentally are the same thing. Thatcher was an active enemy of society (which she denied the existence of) and any sort of sense of national solidarity, she was an individualist ghoul who'd sell (did sell) the country down the river if it pleased the shareholders. 2020s Britain is the direct result of 1980s Britain.
>>62861272>>>62861230 (You)>legion's lack of any form of civic goverment, like for example senatus, and no plan of succesion is what dooms it in a long term. even if kimball is assassinated, NCR can sill funcionWell obviously they don't given what happened to them.Anyways, we are aware of a Legion buercratic system. You can find their paperwork in game.
>>62860603>it's moneky brain saying>be group of kids>never read a book about history>nearly no idea or knowledge about the middle ages>we claim a hill for ourselves>make a order to defend it>play sword fights with sticks>first instinct is to make helmet>grab a old bucket >file a slit in one side >other kids do the same>we become the bucket fighters hitting eachother in the head with sticks>our order ends when one of the kids breaks his thumb trying to perform a ox guard and someone smack his hand with a heavy log
>>62859030I was a firefighter for 6 years, military for 4 and I am currently in law enforcement with NBC training and let me tell you one thingI love my gasmasks, I love wearing them, I love the warm feeling the rubber gives my skin, I love the cold air that comes from the reservoir, I love sucking through the filter, I love how the foggy vision clears when I breath in.I really feel more comfortable with my gasmask then without it.Especially once you wear a rebreather that can switch between closed circuit and assisted filter breathing it becomes super nice.
>>62858999>>62859049No, much more likely they saw the desert storm grunts and thought it was cool. At least, that was definitely the inspiration for the grunts in Half-Life.
>>62859156>>62859178Male disposability is the edgy teenager discovering the natural genetic reason for human males as a separate gender. Women get pregnant and have breasts to nurture young, men are taller, stronger, and have a higher pain tolerance specifically to go out, hunt, and defend the tribe. We're designed to be providers and/or protectors. The reason gas masks are cool is because it looks intimidating, which adds to the ideal of the male which is to protect from threats. Which is also why bad guys always look cooler than "good guys" in fiction, they look more threatening. You don't want to be warm and inviting to enemies in real life, you want to look like scary badasses, as a psychological factor.
>>62861627I think your a glut for punishment anon lol
>>62858999Being a capable man is cool. Being equipped with gear than enhances capability is cool. Having both is coolest. A man can go far. A man with a machine gun can go farther.
>>62862019The man with the machine gun won't go farthest, the machine gun is heavy, he will also not succeed at his destination with the man with the ammunition.It's best to be the man who follows the man with the machine gun and the man with the ammunition to profit from both.
>>62861627That SOUNDS really fucking comfy.
Are you guys really saying masks and no anonymity is cooler than picrel? Maybe I'm just a narcissist, but the idea of people seeing a picture of me looking jacked and badass as fuck sounds way cooler than just being another masked guy.
>>62862320*anonymity not no anonymity - Im fucking retarded
>>62861627Based BDSM gimp enthusiast, you are a step away from going full throttle in the brap appreciation routine.
>>62861233thisbeing a man is fucking cool
>>62862320>Maybe I'm just a narcissistI think the word you are looking for is 'homosexual'
>>62862826>Wanting to be the best version of yourself and be more sought after by women>GayOK bud
>>62858999>>62859164All you fuckers lied to me I thought wolf brigade was going to be balls to the wall shootouts with supersoldiers not two minutes of a guy shooting people who cant even harm his armor sprinkled over an hour and a half of federal agents crying in plainclothes.
>>62860474intimidation factor although mostly top cause of the glowing eyes
>>62859030>video game nerd hasn't actually worn a gas mask before and tried to do anything in itI'll have you know that I put on my mask every time artyom puts his on>averageok, got me there I guess.
>>62862949why do you keep pictures of half naked guys on your computer again?
>>62863019Just watch Angel Cop or Oedo Cybercity 808 or Cyberpunk Edgerunners then.
>>62858999idk but I fuckin love this look.
>>62860619That's supplemental, also someone needs to work the factories. Remember Kreig is a full package, they make armies and all the equipment for them.
>>62863123I literally just downloaded it for this thread, but, anyway there's nothing inherently sexual about a shirtless man. If you've ever gone hiking or hunting in the low veld, you'd know how fucking hot it gets and chilling without a shirt on is the same as taking off your shirt to swim in that circumstance.
>>62863185tl;dr
>>62863276Ok bru, I guess I'm gay, you go ahead coping that getting a half chub from "half naked men" is actually straight and the guy that posted it is the real fag.
>>62863323>>62863185You're sounding very defensive. Those are very small shorts they're wearing, aren't they though?
>>62863338Yes, they are, they're called kort broeke and I wear them regularly, cause I'm a fag.
>>62860517I’ve always liked the Legions veteran’s helmets. Sure it’s a baseball helmet with a bandanna and goggles but it’s practical
>>62859000facts
>>62861104Riot Armor is not power armor and if it is it’s severely underpowered compared to the Brotherhood Power Armors
>>62860517FF16 is so guilty of this it actually upsets me
>>62861298Britain, particularly England has long been a culture of freedom and capitalism, which made it the most powerful nation on Earth, no other culture could have given birth to America. This freedom was ruined by the 20th century, the world wars gave rise to parasitic socialism, welfare statism and authoritarianism, which will inevitably destroy Britain. Thatcher restored about 5-10% of those pre 20th century conditions, and bought the country a few decades.
>>62863136If angel cop is bad then I'm a banana
>>62863569
>>62863019That's what anime is, dude....2 or 3 minutes of very high quality animation, then it's a puppet show for the rest of the episode/season.
>>62862025ToucheThe man with the pedantic fixation will trump them all with facts and logic
>>62860267>>62860533>Colonize system>Make a great society and have lots of trade>Earth demands taxes even though they spent nothing to get that system colonized>Helghast say no>Earth pays a PMC to enforce earth rule.>Helghast fight back>Earth sends fleet to kill the Helghast>Helghast get defeated and kicked off of their planet and sent to a hell hole>On the hell hole a lot of the Helghans die>Space hitler comes to power>Attempt to take their homeplanet back>Fail, but manage to steal earth nukes that weren't suppose to be there and weren't going to be used agianst the helghast...the Helghast did do nothing wrong. The Earth being a totalitarian shithole and sending the helghast to die on Helghan caused everything.
>>62861233The problem is that in current society (Western) is that being a man/masculine is seen as a bad thing. Women get the same rights as men but don't have to sacrifice anything to get them.Women shouldn't be allowed to vote until they turn 26 when men get taken off the draft.If a woman does volunteer to sign up for the draft at 18 then she should be allowed to vote.
>>62858999it's just the hello kitty effect for males. the masked soldier is expressionless, allowing you to project whatever you're feeling onto some faceless masculine ideal
>>62863719You know that Kemono friends was given a shoestring budget because the studio wanted to get rid of the director but when it became the studio's best animated series they couldn't get rid of him.
CBRN Specialist and Diver, more equipment = cooler, and your twice as cool and professional when that gear is on your head/face, man i love kiT GIVE ME KIT MORE KIT AND EQUIPMENT TO FIDDLE WITH AND USE ALL OVER ME
>>62861627genuine question anon, have you considered getting tested for autism? i myself am an autist who enjoys wearing heavy uncomfortable shit, probably for sensory reasons or something
>>62863019Just watch the AMVshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khchqRIPN4U
>>62858999Any heterosexual man would say that.
>>62858999>What causes this phenomena?Because modern society sucks donkey dick
>>62864343that sounds like a good way to fuck up a security related career for no reason. something you've never been diagnosed with is something you never need to list on a questionnaire
>>62863790This is the sort of hateful devisive speach that is causing the rise of bigots like Herra Visari.
>>62861250>i wouldn't have let me mum get plowed by savages 40 years ago but now because of sunak and starmer i would
>>62860783The NCR isn't in any better of a position. They're about to have a massive famine, which is a big reason they're interested in Vegas, they need more land for farms. But at the same time, they don't have the resources necessary to defend Vegas, let alone take it and annex it, thanks to their own internal corruption and rot. They'll die without Vegas, and they'll die if they try to keep it.>>62860789The NCR is shown to have exactly one single functioning vertibird, used by their president. The only other vertibird we see in action is used by the Enclave Remnants.>NCR basically decimated BOSThat really isn't a major achievement considering the Brotherhood is a bunch of inbred tech-hoarding luddites. The NCR beat the BOS the same way the Legion is thrashing the NCR: numerical superiority.>>62861272The Legion's entire purpose is to cut the head off the NCR government and plant themselves onto the stump. It's all over the place, Caesar says as much when he calls the Colorado his Rubicon. He was, and may actually still be an NCR citizen. He's blatantly and deliberately aping Caesar's Gallic Legion with his names and iconography, Heart of Darkness style.The Legion does not see itself as some immortal system of government as it is right now, they do not plan to sit on Fortification Hill forever, they're an invading army that wishes to conquer and control the NCR. They do have land out east, but I think it's fair to say it's more like a provisional military government than what Caesar plans to do after he enters Shady Sands. As for an >>62861179As for an Augustus, the Legion ending implies the Courier is just that. Caesar puts the Courier's face on their coins, this is what you do for someone you plan to be very important in your government.
>>62861244I'm aware that it was mainly used to enshrine the rights of the nobility. However, it was a start. It's also pertinent when Parliament was also historically made up of the nobility as well.The English Bills of Rights weren't perfect either, but did form the basis of our own systems. Often, the right to bear arms was enshrined, although it was curtailed at times by political bullshit. For example, after England broke with Rome, their Bill of Rights specified that Catholics were not allowed to own weapons. The United States cut all that bullshit out with the First Amendment.
>>62865340>The United States cut all that bullshit out with the First AmendmentAnd allowed every braindead idiot to run around with a gun, what an improvement.
>>62865643Stop doing shit that makes men want to shoot you anon.
>>62865643What retarded nonsense are you even saying here?
>>62865310The NCR is years out from a famine and does have the resources to defend Vegas, it's why the Legion is paying everyone it can to fight the NCR. And just because you only see one NCR Vertibird doesn't mean there aren't others, you're trying to extrapolate in-universe reality from game mechanics and limitations.
>>62865860NTA, but while NCR theoretically has enough resources to defend Vegas, basically everyone in-game tells you the Mojave is being occupied by a poorly equipped and heavily demoralized skeleton crew, with the "real" army being held back west to (allegedly) protect the interests of the brahmin barons.While they have more than one vertibird, they still don't have much more than a handful and they are still very much irreplaceable.Do I believe the Legion can conquer the NCR? Absolutely not. But remember that Caesars plan is just to give the NCR a bloody enough nose to force them to enact major political and societal reform (which is also retarded, but relatively easier to do).
>>62865643As opposed to a select few braindead idiots born into positions of power, yes.
>>62865860>The NCR is years out from a famineAnd they have zero solutions to that issue, unless you decide to let the living embodiment of Dunning-Kruger Hildern have research data that did make the plants grow more, but also turned all the people into spore zombies. At best it's a non-solution, at worst Hildern unleashes another horror upon the west coast. There's also the sharecropper farm in outer Vegas, but even if you do decide to sacrifice the Vault 34 survivors for the NCR's irrigation, there's zero indication that that farm will actually solve the coming crisis.>And just because you only see one NCR Vertibird doesn't mean there aren't others, you're trying to extrapolate in-universe reality from game mechanics and limitations.Well, the only vertibird that shows up to Hoover Dam is being piloted by ex-Enclave members. If the NCR had the birds to spare, they'd surely have brought at least one for CAS if they use them for that as you claim.>and does have the resources to defend VegasTechnically? Yeah, sure. Realistically? Absolutely not. See below>>62865885>everyone in-game tells you the Mojave is being occupied by a poorly equipped and heavily demoralized skeleton crew, with the "real" army being held back west to (allegedly) protect the interests of the brahmin barons.Not just that, but the brahmin barons are actively bleeding the military of any actual equipment to equip their own guards and strongmen. The latter of whom are able to freely go about NCR territory and force independent ranchers to sell them everything they've got at robbery-tier prices or they'll just fucking kill them. And the NCR doesn't do anything about that, because the barons have money and now their own private armies like feudal lords. If anything, that's the future that awaits NCR: sociopathic brahmin barons bringing back feudalism after the food crisis hits.That's why they have such bad equipment shortages. It's artificial, the barons are causing it with the NCR's blessing.
Fucking commies.
>>62859030My recce unit did a whole exercise in gas masks, fuck sleeping in one. I think they just had too many canisters and needed to use some up. The vehicles had their own attachable hoses off of canisters with fans. Might have been the first time the hoses were connected to the mask filters rather than just shoved down guys pants to cool the boys off.
>>62863790This is shit Visari would say in a Propaganda speech. UCN aren't exactly good guys but the Helghan administration and Helghast after them where complete retards in pretty much everything they did.This is pure zigger tier delusions on display. How about you higger faggots actually read the fucking lore instead of dick riding a totalitarian faggot like he's a truthful news source. Sinclair was a based moderate and should've been allowed to enact his solution to the Helghast question. Total Higger Death (THD).
>>62865310>they need more land for farmsWorse. They've terribly mismanaged their water table and are about to dry out their aquifers. They're in the Mojave because they need Lake Mead as a reservoir, although the extra crop land is a good bonus. It's one of the reasons Hildern is so interested in the crop research; it would cut the NCR's irrigation needs down to a fraction of what they are.
>>62865885>NTA, but while NCR theoretically has enough resources to defend Vegas, basically everyone in-game tells you the Mojave is being occupied by a poorly equipped and heavily demoralized skeleton crew, with the "real" army being held back west to (allegedly) protect the interests of the brahmin barons.This is not correct. The NCR are absolutely hamstringed by corruption, but the army in the Mojave IS the real army and this is referenced repeatedly, with the NCRA cutting training time to meet recruitment numbers n such. The forces stuck out west are not 'the real army', they're the heavy troopers, the NCRA elite. They are later deployed to the dam as you level up too, much like Legion veterans, because it's just a way to make level scaling in-universe.>>62866061They actually do have more then one bird, you can see a few around in the divide base that gets nuked iirc and the tv show ending has a down verti in NCR markings.
>>62862320>looking jackedsurely you're not so dyel as to imply the guys in your pic are jacked
>>62858999Charitable explanation: looks intimidating and has no face so you can identify yourself with them easily.Less charitable explanation: the above and it also hides unflattering facial characteristics you're insecure over.
>>62866340NTA, but the guy in the middle is pretty muscular. The other guys are just not fat. Tubs of lard tend to think anyone who is fat like them is on some killer routine instead of just not eating their body weight in pizza everyday.
>>62866506>anyone who is *NOT fat like them
>>62866340Guy in the middle has decent biceps/forearms, the other guys physiques are mid>>62866506Im not a fatass, truth be told, I'm actually a kind of a twink
>>62866083>tfw shot MG42 beforeThere's no way in fuck you can hold that fucking thing steady AND drop an entire belt of ammo. Especially since it seems they used the fortress 250 round belts.
>>62866278> you can see a few around in the divide base that gets nuked iircThe Long 15? I wasn't sure if those should be counted because we don't see them operational, could be remnants from battle with the Enclave long ago, but I suppose it also makes sense. Still, they clearly can't have many of them, if they did they'd surely be calling those in for air support like that one anon said.>the tv show ending has a down verti in NCR markings.I do not consider the TV show canon. I don't consider anything greenlit by Bethesda canon really, the most I'd be willing to accept is 3 as semi-canon but that's still a big ask for me. It's a question of "is this Fallout or is this a retard who's skinned Fallout and has poorly draped the skin over himself like a sheet ghost?"
>>62866635They're wearing Power Armor.
>>62867787Is the wolf brigade armor powered?It never seemed to me like it has any servos or hydraulics.
soldier guys are cool and a mask is a great way of showing a protagonist in a game where the protag is player made
>>62866176>Zigger tier delusionsThat is the fucking lore. Alpha Centarui was colonized by the Helghast corporation. They only went back shit crazy when they were sent to die on Helghan because the Earth wanted Vekta because before Killzone 1 the Helghast had a very successeful colony and the Earth didn't like that more colonies wanted to trade with them instead of Earth because unlike the Earth they weren;t threatening them with their massive fleet or crippling them with taxes.
>>62866278>TV show>Garbage everywhere even though the NCR exists>People wearing rags even though the NCR exists>Muh knightly brotherhood!!!!that show was such dog shit.
>>62867911The NCR collapsed in the show because Shady Sands got nuked or something. That doesn't excuse much but it's... a thing.>>Muh knightly brotherhoodAren't the BoS a bunch of actual, reprehensible toaster fuckers in the show?
>>62867927The show thinks that they act like knights non stop instead of being a military and those knightly titles being their god dam ranks.Oh don't forget that all power armor models can be defeated by a single bullet because reasons.
>>62867798It tanks explosive devices pretty well
>>62867975That's not a question of being powered at all.
Probably some sodomic preferences. Here, this is how a soldier should look like.
>>62868021They also run through wooden walls
>>62868033A normal man without armor can do that
>>62865885>But remember that Caesars plan is just to give the NCR a bloody enough nose to force them to enact major political and societal reform (which is also retarded, but relatively easier to do)It's ironic that if you want the best outcome for the NCR in the long run, you're better off not supporting them at Hoover Dam. The NCR needs a good beating to force change or they're just going to keep heading down the path they are now. Save Kimball from being assassinated so they can't just blame Oliver and the army for losing, and that might just force the NCR to look inward for once.
>>62867927>The NCR collapsed in the show because Shady Sands got nuked or somethingBefore the events of New Vegas, too. Todd wiped his ass with the West coast, he does not care.
>>62868033That's not a question of being powered either but rather a question of mass.The main reason you won't do that is you're soft and pliable on the outside and probably not >300 lbs and neither of these applies to the Jin Roh
It is just normal 7.62 NATO mg. And they just spray. You can look up there is some russian guy doing same with KORD.You are smal and weak boys.
>>62868053Absolutely unhinged post
>>62858999Any 40k lorefags here? I was under the impression that lasguns have unlimited ammo. Why does top far right have cables connecting his lasgun to his backpack?
>>62868142They don't have infinite ammo per se, but use powercells that can be recharged by putting them in a campfire, meaning they functionally infinite ammo, but they still need tor reload.
>>62868142That is a Hellgun, a lasgun variant designed to put out significantly more power per shot. It needs an backpack mounted power source if the user wants to have more than one shot before having to reload.
>>62864343What good would it do? How would a diagnosis have any positive effect of his life at all? Better not to know imo
>>62870176(((They))) don't want you to know this but you can actually drastically reduce the effects of mental illness by training yourself.
>>62862320it's because they're fat and ugly
>>62861627>assisted filter breathingdoes this reduce the amount of fogging on the face mask ?
>>62867927>California got nuked again and this time it didn't even merit a "war never changes" speechNice
>>62860282This is you
>>62867436Yes, they don't have very many of them and if they do I really doubt they can make more or make parts for them.>>62867911The NCR hasn't existed for like a fucking decade as of the show and it's not like most governments are exactly keeping their countries clean IRL are they?>Aren't the BoS a bunch of actual, reprehensible toaster fuckers in the show?We don't see much directly of them but it's blatantly obvious that they're not what they used to be and this is an actual plotpoint not just bethesda bullshit. The elder in the show has a little chud speech about it.
>>62860533Just like their inspiration
>>62860517Legion is fine, for what it is (post apocalyptic tribals larping as Romans who don't even know who Romans really were)NCR mostly almost standard military stuff (but they have looted PA at least), Rangers with their veteran armor looks cool
>>62867906No it's a load of bullshit as usual with HGH apologists. Vekta and Helghan was colonised by the Helghan Corporation, they later just bought the rights to the rest of the system. They weren't send to "die", they went off on their own willingly after they started terrorist attacks against the new colonists and the authorities started to crack down on them. The whole reason why the UCN had problems was the HC stepping on their toes and getting uppity because of their greed and they where in the position of cutting off crucial trade to earth. They knew full well what they where pulling and knew that the UCN wouldn't like it.>they weren;t threatening them with their massive fleet or crippling them with taxesYou mean the massive fleet they build up to suppress potential uprisings in colonies they paid for and need to even survive? Earth was ravaged in WW3 wich is why they even colonised space in the first place. Also the only wars in space that happened had them involved so I guess the space taxes weren't even that bad they where just greedy and wanted to build their own empire. You litteraly repeated Helghast propaganda talking points to me and called it lore. Actually read the fucking lore or kill yourself, because I actually know what I'm even talking about.
>>62859000factos
>>62863152
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>>62858999What is it with faggy betas worshipping gas masks?>>62862320I can feel the testosterone emanating from that pic
Colonel Radec my beloved.
>>62860282Not bullying autists enough is how we got in this mess in the first place.
>>62870624I can see them being a decent logistical boon, but with the low number of them in existence to begin with, let alone after the Poseidon oil rig blew up, even that may be a bit too much to ask. Keep in mind that literally all of the vertibirds in existence came from the Enclave. They didn't exist pre-war (do NOT fucking mention Failout 4), they were made postwar by the Enclave with their own proprietary tech that was destroyed. They have Bear Force One, the rest may be used for transporting officers or precious cargo on occasion. That's really the most I could see them used for, their main utility is the same one as Bear Force One is used for: it's a propaganda tool. The NCR is an 1800s nation larping as 20th century America. They're showing off their shiny tech from a bygone age, which they didn't make and can't make more of, to look more advanced and competent than they really are. The icing on the cake is that vertibirds aren't even pre-war tech but postwar tech made by the guys that were going to wipe them out a generation ago, though admittedly they were the same people the NCR wants to larp as.>The NCR hasn't existed for like a fucking decade as of the showWhich contradicts pre-established canon, because the show claims that the NCR was dead and gone before the time of New Vegas. It's a retard show made for the same retards who keep buying Todd's slop. I'm of the mind that no actual discussion of Fallout should include ANYTHING Bethesda has "contributed" to the lore, that should be left for the unwashed masses of Indians that prop up Todd's failing business.
>>62872548Bayonet and gas mask combo goes unbelievably hard
>>62866083Communists had their gas masks too but they ended up looking like Half-Life 2 villains which is what I they were based on.https://youtu.be/nJshjMyg6no
>>62858999It's a garbage look.
>>62859366Another silent protag appreciator. Glad we still exist, in a world where those are all but extinct.
>>62872766One of my all-time fave pics. Those Japs look almost as cool as the archetypal gas mask goon: the SAS.
>>62861627I was in the military for 10 years and took part of Invasion of Iraqi I used to hate wearing chem gear the mask ranged from to big to very small and the suits were gross but once I got out I went to go work for a emergency chemical response company and it was such a shock just how nice wearing a properly fitting and comfortable mask is and having a full body chem suit that doesn’t feel gross is extremely nice. I’m going to be honest I’m more comfortable in a level B chem suit than my own clothing.
Death Korps is cringe but their fit is impeccable.
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>>62858999>why is being a faceless force of nature so fucking coolthe world may never know OP.
>>62868142It naturally depends, the lasguns the DKoK carry are known for being significantly more powerful (and power hungry) carrying something close to modern magazine sizes per power cell. The cadian lasguns however have a weaker shot and can have like 200 shots per powercell. A backpack supply can hold exponentially more for a regular lasgun into the multiple thousands, or for something like a high power armor penetrating hotshot/hellgun, like that storm trooper has, that could plummet to just 200-300 shots. Many lasguns also have variable setting going from maybe the equivalent of .30 carbine to .338mag which also effects the drain on the power cell.
>>62873074Personally I think they're based, as long as they aren't done stupidly. Grimly determined, victory-at-all-costs types are the best in any setting. But there's a difference between disregarding the costs of victory and going out of your way to get more guys killed, something writers occasionally forget.
>>62858999Scion carapace is also a fully functional voidsuit with magboots. They'll often exploit this to make orbital drops with nothing but grav-chutes and thermal-protective shrouds.
>>62861104>how dare they put power armor on the cover of the OG fallout, such an unnecessary callback to... og falloutwhat was the thinking here?
>>62859000Fact checked
>>62870724>He brings up retcon lore as loreHellghastDidNothingWrongJust because Sony caved from having justifiable villains and made them into generic baddies in the PSP ports and the nu games doesn't make it real lore.
>>62870724ISA propaganda. Nobody believes you
>>62858999>he's literally me>>62859000also this
>>62867798Yes.
AFFIRMATIVE
>>62872758>The NCR is an 1800s nation larping as 20th century America.Correctomundo. Seeing people not catch onto this and rabidly insisting that actually the NCR is totally up to modern day standards guys you just don't see it trust me, falling for literally fictional propaganda, is moderately dissapointing.>Which contradicts pre-established canon, because the show claims that the NCR was dead and gone before the time of New Vegas. It's a retard show made for the same retards who keep buying Todd's slop. I'm of the mind that no actual discussion of Fallout should include ANYTHING Bethesda has "contributed" to the lore, that should be left for the unwashed masses of Indians that prop up Todd's failing business.Shady sands getting nuked is supposedly 2281. They probably meant for it happen just about or after the ending slides of the game and just fucking forgot that the game actually ends in 2282 canonically.
>>62875332Proofs?
>>62858999Checked, the blue umbrella from RE7 looked cool and I bought one of those msa masks
>>62873373>something writers occasionally forget.Every faction in 40k is cool if you ignore the majority of the material regarding them.
>>62858999Because you can self-insert easier.
>>62858999Men in the modern era are treated largely as a faceless, soulless, anonymous, disposable slave-class, where their individual identities are simultaneously ignored and derided. They have all the responsibilities and pains of individuality with few to none of the benefits, and the pain of a soul that desires togetherness while being a derelict castaway.The masked/armored soldier archetype is the inverse of this. The mask of anonymity allows them to enact revenge, and makes strength from weakness. The embrace of anonymity allows them to take revenge on a society that hates them, and is often paired with the togetherness of battle comrades, and the surrender of humanity and morality that has done nothing but hurt them. The fantasy is one of rejection of humanity, and the twisted vengeful assumption of the unfeeling, soulless, mechanical nature that men are often accused of, and often trained to be by the negative management by exception inflicted upon them by society. It also grants a small air of invincibility or safety from harm, which is the physical manifestation of the "escape from harm" emotional undercurrent that serves as a psychological driver to the rest of the archetype.Donning the mask allows them to become part of a unit, surrender the tortured self and join the strength of the collective. Work with your brothers to take revenge and inflict terrible harm on the ones that did this two you. They took away your dreams of love, family, independence. Give these broken things up for the hope of giving them to others. They treat you like a tool? Good, use it to become an instrument of their destruction.It also looks sick as fuck.
>>62861233Because today in the West you don't get the other half of the deal. You get the disposability, but without the privileges. In fact serving in a war today isn't seen as honorable or glorious as all, but instead makes you a stooge and an idiot.
>>62861681>le males are disposableeh, not really. The reason women can do those valuable things is because the men protect them from all the other things that would disrupt it. You can't have a functioning society of pregnant mothers.
>>62868142Lasguns are scalable but still work on batteries. More battery = more las. Simple as.
>>62876380Go back to /r9k/ you colossal faggot
>>62863790>Space hitlerHelghast are space jews according to their interaction with their native lands
>>62876444>thoughtful content is badgo back to tiktok newfag
>>62876473>hur durr have no identity in society>hur durr le identity is le maskFuck off you 14 year old.
>>62858999Obscured face and eyes are interpreted as being threatening by most. The weapons and military shit imply that they're soldiers. These are thus badass warriors. Most men with penises are into war and fighting because we're taught to enjoy that because that's what we've been doing for the last 20k years or so as males.The obscured face and depersonalization also is a melding of man and machine/tech. This concept is interesting as well by itself. Man augmented by machines and stuff. Power trip big dick fantasy. You don't think "wow those guys are fucking weak baby pussies" when you look at them.Mirror neurons. When we read and look at shit these fire in our brains. We basically simulate/feel whatever we're looking at. Even when people say hi and wave at us. We don't go "ah yes the smile and waved hand logically means they are greeting me". A part of your brain smiles and waves back reflexively inside you and this short cuts cognition and makes interactions faster. Even just looking at this or larpshit may trigger a little feeling of what it's like to be that character. Which tells you another about people's choice in favorite media. It's the mechanism behind catharsis. I like watching the Grinch because I feel the same way about the world as he does. When I see him on the screen, I feel what he's feeling and doing. I am particularly susceptible to his plot arc and character development because I am sensitive to that kind of experience because I hate myself and most people, like the Grinch. Catharsis. Emotions and stuff by proxy. Hence also why you'll get more people interested in these characters on /k/.
>>62858999Remember boys and girls. Always make sure your elite special forces professionals wear and be decked out in jet black BDUs with blood red LED neon lights emitting from their googles, helmets and visors.>The red neon lights expose your location and why black?!Maybe the red LED neon be like IFF markings? And the jet black BDUs are for the cool factor AND shows off one is of the elite cream of the crop operatives.Your special forces Doom Troopers cannot be considered or called special forces or professional military operatives if their BDUs are not dark or jet black and have those oppressive blood red or sickly orange LED neon lights.
>>62860605Celcius AND soccer? Fucking thirdies
>>62858999>What causesHunter instincts
>>62859239i like how one of them has to wear the full "united states coast guard" so we dont get confusedalso none of their hoods are properly cinched up
>>62875991True. Such is the fate of a sci-fi setting, especially one born as a satire.
>>62876473That wasn't thoughtful content, anon. That was the verbose, grandiose mutterings of a future school shooter.
>>62877256That's the rear carrier patch, probably either swapped by mistake or substituted if they ran out of the front one
Seriously? It's because they look like Darth Vader.
>>62876444>>62876487>>62877732>The faggot fear the masculine post>The faggot engage in SIGN woman language and cannot confront the merits of the post>The faggot will say the post is meritless instead of confronting its facts.ywnbaw, I literally cannot imagine anything worse than arguing like a woman as you have.
>>62878687there is nothing masculine about that post. only faggot think about revenge. real man wear mask to protect their loved ones, to enact justice in a way that current justice system cannot do.
>>62876666Superior sport and superior measurement system
>>62878687Nigger, being a man is a fucking privilege, and with the privilege of more strength and power comes the responsibility to take care of those who are vulnerable and weak - women and children. Your ability to handle responsibility is what separates a man from a manchild. Now, if you're so angry at the responsibility of being a man that you feel the need to put on a mask and rape and pillage - you're a closeted faggot and you should troon out and join the 41%.
>>62875871Watched them put the armor on.
>>62878742Post gun with timestamp fag
>>62878742>Superior sport
>>62872945Never vibed with those gas masks. They look too much like scuba gear.
>>62880069Understandable. How about the slightly more modern look?
>>62880202MP-5/10? Rare if so.
>>62870724>Earth is retarded>No you don't understand Earth needs to be totalitarian shithole to survive!!!!Earth could actually be Decent and then people wouldn't want to do their own thing.
>>62858999I dunno but aside from looking awesome it’s always given me a strong desire to be carried or manhandled by guys in full body armor. Have to be wearing a nice respirator though since some gas masks are pretty creepy looking. The HECU and NCR ones are my favorite. I’ve always wanted to cuddle with someone in firefighter gear too.I think part of the appeal is the anonymizing and faceless nature of it. Probably why I like robots too.
>>62880207The virgin zulu fears the CHAD DOGA
>>62881131>Doga>quad rockets behind armored shield>Beam rifle>Zulu>120mm machine cannon with less ammo than a decades old Zaku>Single, one (1) rocket launcher strapped to the back with no extr aprotectionNeo-Zeon peaked with Char as its leader, Full Frontal? Full shit more like.>Verification not required
There's just something cool about looking like a faceless cyborg death machine.
>>62881131>>62881217Y'all are both wrong.
>>62880069OOTH the S6 "diver" respirators are reportedly really comfortable, more so than the S10 ressies that replaced them.
>>62881398Cool Zaku, Anon
DUSDT 514 did such an excellent job on the suits. Too bad CCP chained it to the PS3 and sealed its fate forever.
>>62882283This is no Zaku, boy.
is this OK?
>>62882788Zakblu
>>62882847what a bad ass
>>62882851Bless you.
>>62860526>>if you're not born a brahmin baron, you will live and die a nobody who is conscripted by said barons to die like a bitch in the desert while they party it up in casinosyes yes tax the 1% and all that jazz. Back to your university containment zone, commie.
>>62866635Massive skill issue, i can do it fine.
>>62858999hell yeah
>>62873954What retcon? If what I said is retconed lore then it must better than your old one. Because you still get the feeling that both sides are equally responsible to letting the situation deteriorate to the state that it did. Neither faction was really evil until Helghast went full space 3rd Reich. >>62880723>Higger doesn't know what the ICSA isWonder why, if they joined them maybe Helghan wouldn't have been a totalitarian shithole. But unlike the UCN the Helghast aren't exactly reasonable.
>>62883250>Niether faction was really evil until helghast went full 3rd Reich.You mean attempt to get their planet back? steal nukes that weren't suppose to be there in the first place?Or 4th game where you learn that the Virus that was going to be used on the Vektans was a modified Virus made by the UCN/ISA to kill off all Helghans? A bio weapon that started development ~12 years before the "Helghast" were a thing? >UCN reasonableYou mean developing biological weapon to kill off all of the Helghans years before they went 3rd reich?
>>62883376You mean their planet that they lost because they fucked around and found out? Also I don't remember nukes even being illegal for the ISA to own so I don't know where you retards want to go with that. >Or 4th game where you learn that the Virus that was going to be used on the Vektans was a modified Virus made by the UCN/ISA to kill off all Helghans? A bio weapon that started development ~12 years before the "Helghast" were a thing?Where do you get this timeline from? The bioweapon started research after Killzone 3 as a black project for extra deterrence now that they where on Vekta. Helghast had their own bio weapons projects during the 2nd extrasolar war that they actually where going to use like the genocidal maniacs they are. The UCN didn't even give much of a shit about the Helghast, they where a problem for the ISA/VSA to deal with. They only came in to backup the ISA on Vekta and where content to leave them to it.
>>62876503>Trepang2 >Read up it's more via internet and the in-game intel filesHow in God's name can Horizon Corp be unbelievably powerful and we'll armed!? Considering some in game lore tidbits imply Horizon Corp have tank divisions, an air force AND a carrier strike group/fleet. What Jew-o-mancy and semetic tricks did Anton Lazzar or any fictional evil greedy Megacorp regularly do to have firepower to rival the literal United States Military into bullying?
