Giant tanks, like bolos or land battleships, are the next step in warfare:> Thick Armor These behemoths can scale their armor to several meters thick, using advanced materials to absorb explosives or kinetic energy hits. Even if drones hit, the damage would be negligible.> Active Protection Systems With their massive energy capacity, they can deploy laser defenses, jamming tech, or interceptor drones to neutralize threats before impact. e.g., scaled-up versions of APS already used on modern tanks.> Redundancy and CompartmentalizationTheir enormous internal volume allows critical systems to be isolated and duplicated. A single hit, even one that gets through their armor, won’t cripple them.> Saturation ResistanceUnlike smaller vehicles, these giants can shrug off drone swarms thanks to a mix of passive and active defenses.Giant tanks aren’t perfect (mobility and cost are big hurdles), but they represent a wonderful "brute force" solution to the growing drone warfare challenge. Give them AI, and we can make bolos for real, bros.
>>62875783>several meters thickimpractical
Holy based
>>62875808YES!See, the only way forward is to make tanks either much larger -- boosting their armor and APS capabilities. Or make them smaller, faster, cheaper, and effectively disposable. Ultra-lights.Current tanks are fodder.
>>62875820Replace infantry with the Nyx from Arma 3.
>>62875783On one hand, the size creep modern tanks has been facing gives your idea credence, and modern AA systems make getting bombed less of a worry than it was in the 40s. On the other... how are you supposed to get this lumbering landcruiser where you need it to be? It won't fit on any transport, and it won't fit in anything but an open field.
>>62875783>Build P.2000 Lemming>Can only build a few due to complexity, resource requirements, so they only get deployed to critical locations>Ground has to be specially prepared to allow them to move without sinking into the dirt>Can't keep engineers from installing 42.0 cm KwK 69 since the Lemming has room for it...>...but that means making anchors so it can fire the damn thing without tipping over>Moving the "tank" takes a mechanized battalion's worth of fuel, so they aren't moved unless necessary>Maintenance of prepared ground decays since other tasks more important>As a result, Lemming usually left in place with anchors deployedCongrats on reinventing fortifications, I guess
Giant tanks are just juicy targets for missiles. The arms race between weapons and armor was won by the former a long time ago
>>62875783you forgot to put a fidget spinner on top, kid
>>62875796>the most efficient way of moving heavy weights is on waterbehold the tank of the future
>>62875982I refuse to believe anyone under the age of 35 has read the "Bolo Novels".
>>62875997BUT THAT'S JUST BEGGING FOR ENEMY AIRCRAFT TO MASS BOMB IT!Unless it came with it's own Interceptors...
>>62876006>future of land warfare is self-canal-digging aircraft carriers
>>62876001You'd be surprised. I'd wager I've read a lot you've never even heard of too.t. 25yo autist
>>62876018...How deep of a Canal does a modern Carrier need again?
>>62875783>artillery shell or missile hits tracksAnd now all you have is a giant bunker with a cannon on it
>>62876069Have you seen how redundant those tracks are? > giant bunker with a cannon on itBig bunker, big cannons, still pretty dangerous.
>>62876018>diggingProject Plowshare
>defeated by bridge>sinks in mud>impossible to recover >impossible to miss. genius idea OP, send to Kremlin immediately
>>62876154>defeated by bridgeWhat are engineering teams for?>sinks in mudNo, not really>impossible to missIf used well, just as aircraft carriers are "impossible to miss"
>>62876132>Project PlowshareBut can it ALSO be a Giant Robot Waifu?
>>62875783use case?
>>62875783Soviets did it decades ago. Hovertanks probably scale above 100 tons better than tracked tanks.
>>62876418annnddd the pic I meant to attach
>>62876001They used to sell em at barnes and nobles. RIP Nike.>T. 31
>>62876006Or was made with at least 40 feet of pumice based carbon nano tube reinforced concrete armor in enclosed compartments and bulkheads.....
>>62876001I read a bunch of them. I wanted to track down all of them, but some were digital I lost track of which I was on and rebought ones I already read.
>>62875889You just put a Kloude chamber on it. Fixes everything.
>>62875783>optionally manned>smaller to increase vertical armor>active protection (lasers)>slaved unmanned ammo/infantry/mortar/SAA with dedicated close-in anti-air defense against dronesIt's trending back toward Renaissance merc companies-- these doing the heavy lifting at the points of effort with all the Gucci accoutrements in contexts where not-actually anywhere 'Near Peers' are fighting each other without SEAD or even local Air Dominance worth a combined arms operational fuck.
>>62875783All you would need is to install a radar on IFVs and give them proximity fuze ammo and they can now deal with both drones and infantry. We already use IFVs and tanks together in the same engagements so it wouldn't be much of an issue integrating them.>but enemy anti-radiation SEAD missiles will target the radar!Completely worth it to make a battle taxi-cum-drone killer-cum-fire support as bait for the limited SEAD missiles instead of risking a complex and expensive AA system
>>62875783Battleships could have been uparmored and festooned with SAMs to counter jet aircraft. But no navy ever did it. Why? Because cost vs utility. Sure you can build a nigh invulnerable giant tank but it would be too expensive to build, run and maintain vs just spamming normal tanks while the utility it brings is only marginally better if at all.
Without shells they will be useless
>>62876203All of them will be in like 10 years at most.
>>62875855Totally not Wiesel 2.
>>62878836That's literally what they claimed to do to aircraft carriers, though? "Y-you can't sink us with your jets, drones, missiles, or torpedoes because we have screens, active defenses, electronic warfare suites, and even more stuff that's top secret confidential...!"
>>62875820Reminds of what happened with cavalry after WW1Heavy cavalry charges become obsoleteCavalry is mainly used for scouting and harrassing the enemyTanks become the new ''mechanized cavalry'' that can break through lines
>>62875808the American and British race traitors took this from us.
>>62875997Man you can really see the AI struggling on this one.
>>62879027Yeah, and truth is that today's tanks are insanely vulnerable. You almost feel sorry for them.
>>62880532I mean, in a sense they're even squishier than infantry. They can't really hide. They can't outpace drones or missiles. Their armor barely works most of the time, and explicitly doesn't work against modern peer threats.
>>62875997>>62876006>>62876018Easily taken out by tunneling machine submarines that fire tunneling torpedoes from hundreds of feet below the surface of the Earth. Checkmate.
>>62880585Countered by seismic radar and tunneling depth charges.
>>62880591>>62880585lol, ITT the new DARPA is taking shape.
>>62875783>reaches a riverShit.
>>62880891Not as big a problem as you think, nor is it a unique problem.
>>62875783>"In World War Two, the Germans had an artillery piece - it's the biggest in the world - called the Gustav Gun, and it weighed a thousand tons. And the Gustav was capable of firing a seven-ton shell and hitting a target, accurately, twenty-three miles away. I mean, you could drop bombs on it every day for a month without ever disabling it. But, drop a commando - one man - with just a bag of this, and he could melt right through four inches of solid steel and destroy that gun forever."
>>62880539>>62880532Reminder nothing going on in eastern europe constitutes "modern warfare" or "peer" anything lolAfter forty years it turned out the near peer theory was just propaganda to sell more contracts. The rest of the world is in the 80s at best by American standards.
