https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/11/13/turkey-secured-40-eurofighter-typhoons-with-germanys-approval/
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>>62876313>selling weapons to the turksI seriously hope you guys don't do this.
i don't understand europeans. one moment they criticize their government and devise defense plans against a possible invasion, the other they sell stuff to them. what the fuck. it's like italy selling FREMMs to egypt, they're arming a potential threat for just a couple billion dollars worth of cash.
>>62876332It wouldn't make sense in a hearts of iron game or such, but in real life money is worth far more than life. Just look at how many western naval assets have been indirectly sunk by the french since in modern times
>>62876332Those aren’t security threats, Italy believes it has a natural sphere on influence in the Mediterranean and bringing Egypt in his camp would be one of its main goals meanwhile Turkey is historically the biggest recipient of EU financial aids they are meant to join as soon as they manage to put in place a functional democracy.The security threat are in order of importance Russia, than Islamic terrorism than China
now that they're old and useless, only low iq turdies would buy
>>62876414>they are meant to join as soon as they manage to put in place a functional democracy.Does anyone still believe this will ever happen? Especially with the EU becoming more and more populist? Turkey is never getting in. And even if they did, they would be the same kind of unreliable, shiftless partner like they are in NATO.
>>62876313NATO weapons shouldnt be sold to turkey at all. They are traitors.
>>62876529Traitor to whom though?
>>62876554dunno
>>62876313 Turks celebrated the 50th anniversary of their F-4 Phantom acquisition, which still make up a large chunk of the turkey airforce. The aircraft itself first entered service in 1958, some 66 years ago. Half of Turkey's active tank fleet is composed of M-48's a tank that entered service in 1952.
>>62876576>large chunk of the turkey airforce.Wrong. They have like ~20 of them while the rest are F16s
>>62876468>Does anyone still believe this will ever happen? There are strong geopolitical pressure for that to happen also the populists are upset at immigration so they are fine withTurkey joining as long as it isn’t allowed in Schengen
>>62876468>unreliableWho is a reliable partner though?
>>62876468As long as Greece and Cyprus are in the EU Turkey will never join, at least not without major concessions. EU membership requires unanimity from current members.
>>62876313
>>62876529>NATO weapons shouldnt be sold to turkey at all. They are traitors.F-16, E-7, KC-135, Black Hawk, Javelin, Hellfire II, M270 MLRS, ATACMS, Stinger, ...Did they buy all their US weapons from ebay?
>>62876332Yea, Turks are not needed. I'm sure Romanians and Bulgarians will be able to hold southern flank against Russia. Like they successfully did during in the winter of 1942.
>>62876748>>62876332If Turkey were to be kicked out of NATO they would just team up with RUSSIA. Now Russia has complete access to leave and go from the Black Sea as they please. Turks are two faced and self-serving but one of the most useful members of NATO.
>>62876757I mean, NATO is a defense organization against Russia. UK, Poland, Turkey, Czechs, Slovenes, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Germany (only if Germany unfucks themselves). These are the only reliable anti-russian countries out there. France, Greece and Hungary are the trojan horses in NATO, historically they have always been on the side of Russia.
>>62876757Anon Russia is obsessed with recapturing Istanbul
>>62876313What about KAAN?
>>62876332fuck you Egypt needs weapons, and now they shift their attention to Chinese weaponry.
>>62876866It KAAN'T
>>62876554The Byzantine EmpireBring back the purple!
>>62876313Which tranche?
>>62876332european leaders have a sense of superiority. they think they'll always win.
>>62878414Are they wrong?
>>62876797>France, Greece and Hungary are the trojan horses in NATO, historically they have always been on the side of Russia.>FranceYou might be severely retarded, anon.
>>62876313>https://bulgarianmilitary.comyeah
>>62876797>France, Greece and Hungary are the trojan horses in NATO, historically they have always been on the side of Russia.Who burned down Moscow in 1812?
The source is crap but at least i remembered that Turkey dropped out of F35 to get S400 and made me chuckle.
>>62878919>The source is crap>>62876313>https://bulgarianmilitary.com
>>62876797>FranceLay off the weed man. But I'm interested to hear why you think Greece would be friends with Russia? Wasn't Greece always neutral to them?
>>62878649France was supplying military equipment to Russia up until 2015, and they were on the verge of delivering two Landing Helicopter Docks (LHDs) to them. I do not even mention the policy of France backing Russia for the last 150 years.
>>62879157Yeah, and Germany was full on buying Russian gas, and they still act like they regret the sanctions.And nevermind the whole Cold War thing, you massive sperg. If you dare bring up that retarded quote about France somehow threatening to join the USSR over Indochina you'll definitely be in the room-temp IQ category.
>>62879190Yes, during the Cold War, France supplied Russia with essential technology for engines, missiles, and radar systems. Many Russian shit out there were reverse engineered from French samples.
>>62878962>France helped Russia whenever they could>Even teamed up with them and a warlord in Libya to coup an elected president>Greece leased its important ports to China>"NO THOSE DONT COUNT! TURKEY KILLED KURDS! THEYRE TRAITORS!"You europeans are a retarded and ignorant and will parrot whatever the television will tell you.
>>62879190funny how Germany buying gas from Russia was something the USA supported at the time of the Cold War.
>>62879190>what is LibyaNow, parrot the literal russian propaganda of Turkey buying ISIS oil via trucks
>>62879240>France helped Russia whenever they couldYou're absolutely retarded>Even teamed up with them and a warlord in Libya to coup an elected presidentApplies to half of NATO, and the concept of a legitimate government in Lybia these days is laughable anyway.>You europeans are a retarded and ignorant and will parrot whatever the television will tell you.You're an ignorant retard parroting whatever midwit geopol analyst wannabe caters to your brand of retardation.
>>62879256>"That doesn't count! Everyone did that!"
>>62879240Remember, France and Russia also share similar interests in the Caucasus region. France supports Russia's invasion of Georgia and is the top enabler of Armenia, which is a client state of Russia with Russian military bases. We need to reconsider France's NATO membership.
>>62879256>Applies to half of NATOWrong, France and Greece deliberately teamed up with Russia against Turkey, an NATO ally. Italy positioned itself with Turkey against those two. Greece is effectively selling out its resources to China, which is probably a bigger threat to the Alliance than Russia. The legitimacy of the elected Libyan government isn't up to discussion, it's the fact that France, Greece and Russia attacked turkish forces via proxy (Haftar). Taking all those thing into account, calling Turkey an unreliable and traitorous ally is peak hypocrisy and demand closer look to the reliability and loyalty of the accusers. Before the Ukrainian war, half of the EU members were a mouth-piece for anti-Turkey russian propaganda. They've aired literaly russian propaganda on television.The way I see it, half of the EU full of traitorous and unreliable partners. Not to mention the inability to defend themselves in a hot-war scenario.
>>62879256>You're an ignorant retard Nah it's just a turk
>>62879667So exactly what he said?
>>62879679I mean...yeah, you're right
>>62878414Well they have both American and Russian cocks down their throats, is that considered a win in Europe?
>>62879900>Luxembourg premierminister be like "We nee and EU army! NOW!">Luxembourg has 900 soldierseuros lol
>>62876325US does it and Turkey is part of NATO, why not?
>>62876332> italy selling FREMMs to egyptRiddle me this, didn't France also sell it to them? or did Italy give them the complete package with Aster and other systems?
>>62880607Because eurotrash think they have any saying in NATO matters. I love it how statelets like the baltics or dane act and talk like they're on equal footing.
You ever notice that France is getting shit when Russians take a heavy loss
>>62878194You do know that Hungary and the Slavs had a big hand in weakening the Eastern Romans prior to the Turks.
>>62881452>Still living in the past
>>62876355We were so real for sinking the SheffieldPeople don't realize how impressive is putting a radar on missile can change everything
Good move for Turkey. They have a lot of old F4's that need will need replacing in coming years.
>>62881354>Because eurotrash think they have any saying in NATO matters. I love it how statelets like the baltics or dane act and talk like they're on equal footing.euro trash vassals never learnmost pathetic are the balts:>literal, actual westie cargo-cult nations
>>62876313>bulgarianmilitary
>>62876313They are selling shit that no one else wants.
