Czech PZD Mk24. First original design by these guys, who are currently known for their minimi clones. https://dss-cz.com/pzd-mk24
un-webp'd pics from their website
Looks pretty standard.
>>62876683Presumably meant to compete with Evolys on weight.
with glass on
>>62876697People like to talk about the Evolys a lot but I seriously doubt that it will ever see widespread adoption outside of SF units simply due to the fac that it doesn't have a true QD barrel.
>>62876709now tell me exactly how they expect to get that feed tray cover up with the fucking eotech battery in the way
>>62876760Only found this pic posted by a czech twitblogger, not the company, so the answer is probably they don't
>>62876652>"original design">literally a LAMGtypical eastern euros
>>62876811>x is just yevery gun thread
>>62876854No, it's LITTERALLY the same gun, not even a close copy design, it's a straight up copy like the chinks would do
>LAMG at home
>>62876760From this photo >>62876873 it looks as though that whole section of rail is attached to the cover.
>>62876887Nvm I'm retarded, please disregard.
>>62876873Ah yes, the triangular holes in the handguard are the single most essential engineering element to it's function.
>>62876873OP here, yes it looks a lot like the LAMG without seeing the internals. This is basically fine, because ultralight LMGs seemingly converge on the stoner gun no matter what and KAC isn't equipped to fill even US demand, let alone NATO-wide demand, so a lil bit of pinching here and there is what it is.I would be curious to get a look at the czech gun disassembled. They supply their minimi copies to armed forces like ukraine, so there are decent odds of this happening.Recent thread on a SOCOM LMG that also quickly descended into LAMG posting: >>62776116
>>62876954>They supply their minimi copies to armed forces like ukraine
>>62876652I'm sexually aroused by this weapon
>>62876652I hate the stock but otherwise it seems finecould probably save a few grams in the handguard area, the upper receiver, and the stock, what do the internals look like?
>>62878044>what do the internals look like?TBD. Two jumping off points:1. Article about their shophttps://dss-cz.com/themes/dss-theme/assets/images/media/pdf/vyroba%20kulometu%20v%20cechach_SR_10_2023.pdf2. Disassembled 5.56 minimi-likehttps://dss-cz.com/themes/dss-theme/assets/images/media/pdf/pzd%20556_SR_6_2023.pdf
>>62876709>>62876760I overlooked a photo on their linkedin
Do we have any idea how much it weighs? Does it make use of constant recoil, or does it just have a superasslong bolt throw like the Negev?
>>628782045.2kg"recoil-reducing" so probably constant recoil
>>62878221Intriguing. Is this for the Czech army? Or is it just a product they've developed at their own expense for the current faddish ultralight-machine/assault-gun market?
>>62876652that forward grip is the wrong way, not memeing, why do people still do this?
>>62878233>Is this for the Czech army?Don't know. They're a small company and they sell to ukraine, so I'll probably be able to catch them at a show to ask sooner or later. Last year their thing seems to have been breaking into asia.
>>62878233>Is this for the Czech army?Czech here, army bought new minimis 2 years ago to replace types 59. They pose as a new machinist startup. Dont know about Mk24, but their 556 model was pretty much just a minimi clone with some "quality of life benefits" (more sturdier, telescopic stock, gas system adaptation for silencer) as they put it. If it sell, then I am happy for them. They should be totally independent on the rest of our gun manufacturers (CZ...) but are sponsored by state investment bank. Here is interview with CEO in Czech.https://dss-cz.com/themes/dss-theme/assets/images/media/pdf/pzd%20556_SR_6_2023.pdf
>>62878336That was already linked above>They should be totally independent on the rest of our gun manufacturers (CZ...) but are sponsored by state investment bank.Yeah the sponsor logo list in the footer is a weird bag. Have to assume they'll be bought up by CSG if they're in pole position to make a major sale to the czech army.
>>62876652pizda hehehe
>>62878572>PZDrename it by one letter for a massive sales boost
>>62876949ackshully they're trapezoids hehim very smartgive me validation
Am I hallucinating or is that just a KAC LAMG? Not a new design, but it’s about time somebody embraces constant recoil.
>>62876887…why? Why attach the optics to the tray?FN solved this problem by the way. Look up the EVOLYS. The tray opens to the side, and the gun has one continuous rail on top.
>>62881034>Why attach the optics to the tray?It's been done that way for a hundred years and it works fine? This isn't a match rifle.
>>62881011Outwardly very similar. Internals are a question mark for now. Maybe czechanon >>62878336 can dig something up that we can't. Their other guns are probably a good indication of what we'll see once we get one opened up.>>62881034>FN solved this problemHave they tho? Rotating the feed tray seems like the right idea, but the evolys came out stupidhueg in both chamberings.
>>62881111No comment on the rest of the EVOLYS. I just think the feed tray is neat.>>62881074Really? I’m not talking about subMOA accuracy, but I can’t imagine constantly slamming the feed tray down with optics affixed to it is gonna have any degree of accuracy. Minor differences in the optic’s orientation will produce increasingly massive changes in point of impact at range. But eh, if it works it works I guess.
>>62881245How do we know the rest's chonk isn't related to the feed tray?
>>62882204Eh, I doubt it is. The FN’s receivers seem unnecessarily big. But at the end of the day it’s not exactly a heavy (literally) machine gun. 11lbs and 13lbs for 5.56 and 7.62 respectively.
>>62884322Yeah it's not heavy, just physically larger than it seems like it needs to be on the backend.
>>62876678>un-webp'd picsdoing god's work
>>62887391Speaking of webp, if anyone happens to know how to make ffmpeg behave its ass and do the needful in actually keeping the alpha transparency of webp input frames with vp9, that'd be swell.I had to flatten the OP webm because the 72 webp stills with alpha at 5 degree intervals -> yuva240p resulted in a shartblack situation. Hastily switching to png didn't fix it either.
>>62876652Someone really liked Knights LAMG
>>62876719I'm still puzzled as to why they omitted such a simple feature. This thing has a removable barrel. The LAMG does. The only thing I can figure is that they don't *want* to make it a true light machine gun; they want to present it as a sort of belt fed assault weapon, and this is because they don't want to cannibalize their existing product line. They manufacture half the machine guns on the planet after all.
>>62888490They're following the modern push to have suppressors on every gun. Which means that you can't have a QC barrel because there's a really high chance that some grunt leaves it and that >thousand dollar suppressor somewhere in the field because it was too hot to carry or too heavy to carry or he just forgot about it at some point.
>>62889376Everyone loves to say that the cost of cans is purely an artifact of the US legal system though.
>>62889376Suppressors are not expensive, it's just a glorified metal tube. They're only highly regulated, scarce, and thus artificially overpriced for civilians, not the government.
>>62889376>the modern push to have suppressors on every gunThat's almost as retarded a fad as having a belt fed weapon with a fixed barrel. And they *are* fads, make no mistake. They have nothing to do with military efficiency. They're fads. Memes.
>>62892626if you don't think that suppressor manufacturers are charging the government MORE than they are for civilians I don't know what to tell youvolume discounts don't exist for the government unless the capacity for volume is preexisting
>>62876811>>62876873>>62876954>>62888255>>62881011Why are euros incapable of designing anything original?
>>62896632Europe has been irrelevant since VE day.
>>62896632ur boring
>>62876811>LAMGYou say that like it's a bad thing. Constant recoil is based and if Knights won't get off its ass and put it into circulation, I'm glad someone else will.
>>62896473No one is saying the MIC doesn't overcharge the government, that is obvious. On the commercial market suppressor price is dictated through artificial scarcity due to over-regulation. One the government market they are overpriced because of government corruption and cuckdaddy uncle sam being a massive findom paypiggy
>>62903514Ppl here hate guns, they only feign interest in topics long enough to get ammunition for sneed warfare.
>>62876954Wait, so the advancing pawl/feed lever is on the bottom and mounted to the receiver? And exposed except for having the belt drape over it?
>>62889376If you aren't paying consuner prices you can afford a can for each barrel and a spare.>>62893857>Reduced signature to the enemy>Better for NVDs>Easier to communicate within squad
>>62887726Is that a deep fried burrito?
>>62906246it's an italian pastry called a cannoli, like a weird little pancake biscuit that's wrapped into a tube while it's hot (it hardens when cool) and then filled with cream and chocolate
>>62906234And catches on fire after a few hundred rounds, with no way to change it out. Lunacy.
>>62906344>anons don't recognize a cannoliWe live in troubled times
