>>62903362
>Boomers will buy solid oak tabletops just to screw $1000 reloading equipment to them and still insist they are saving money

>>62903373
listen I'm almost 70 years old and have been reloading since I was 5 with my dad,
continuing the tradition with my kids and grandkids with a lot of the same equipment. I'd say it's paid itself off by now especially with all the elk meat it's gotten us over the years

>>62903397
post old man hands or your post is fake and gay

>>62903362
boomers will insanely obsess over the fact +-1 grains of powder will cause major changes in the flight path or if using 3 or 4 sided primers different ignition will affect the bullet path, it's all soo tiresome they don't speak about anything else

>>62903362
I spent 12 fucking hours at the range last weekend and didn't get to shoot my Lott reloads. it won't be this weekend or probably next either.

>>62903436
>obsess over the fact +-1 grains of powder will cause major changes
When I had time to reload, I found that .5 change in charge weight would impact groupings for 9mm at 25 yards.
A difference in .5 grains when loading heavier bullets in 5.56 will impact groupings when shooting high power rifle across the course (500 or 600 yard targets from prone position).

Really a waste of time, unless you're a fucking poor or a sharpshooter, it's useless

>>6290370trois
2/10

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>>62903428

>>62903703
people do it for fun

>>62903722
Kek, fair enough grandpannon

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>>62903428
>old man hands

AI fuckup was strangely appropriate in this case...

>>62903764
Fun is not allowed in ways i do not like, you are not having fun

>>62903856
oh okay..

If you don't obsess over ballistics, loads, turkey target densities or by gum anything to do with firearm discharges stop posting here.

>>62903373
There are cheap press that takes more time.

>>62903703
I shoot a lot of big revolver rounds. It’s a whole lot cheaper to reload.

>>62903373
Most reloaders realize they aren't really saving money. If you reload boutique cartridges or crank out thousands and thousands a year, yeah. Otherwise it is just a fun hobby or a way to get optimal accuracy out of your rifle.

>>62903448
If it makes you feel any better I’m hoping to finally try out my 444 marlin lone eagle with 444 instead of 44 on the 2nd…. Been a long wait.

Anyone still using quickload? Is it worth buying the software or is the torrent still 90% of the functionality

>>62906091
I haven’t tried quickload. Have been using GRT

>>62906091
lmao 140 for that

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I just got into reloading, mainly for .30-06 but it came with a heap of these little spoons for powder. Are the manufacturers dumb or something? Just send one of the big little spoons so I can fill the cases up faster with less effort.

>>62906104
Ya it's pretty nuts, but that's what boomers will pay for shit. Steel Beasts is still $120 for the full license ffs

>>62906138
You aren't using those exclusively right? You're weighing the charge first?

>>62906138
Just fill the case to the top with Accurate #2 and then compress it with the bullet

>>62906091
The torrent is 100% of the functionality.
The latest update had a few more powders/bullets added and couple tweaks to powders.
Once you get it tweaked it's just about dead on for predictions. One bit of advice i found for .223 was
>Add 7200 psi to the default value of 3626 psi for loads touching the lands. That gives us 10,826 psi. Then subtract 29 psi for every .001" off the lands. For a .03" jump that is 30×29 or 870 psi, which, when subtracted from 10,826, gives us 9956 psi, or about the 9950 psi I've been using for this much jump. You enter this value into the box beside "Shot Start (Initiation) Pressure".

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>>62903703
>t. doesn't live within driving distance of a Scheel's
It's absolutely criminal how much money I save now that I have a progressive.

>>62906247
No, I couldn't afford a scale so I just got the little spoons. I just scoop the powder then tap the spoon to level it and tip the powder in.

>>62906268
I haven't got any of that but I've been loading with this powder called Bullseye, my uncle had a bottle of it and free powder is free powder. I do have to tip a bit of the powder out to get the bullet to seat at the right height and it takes a fair bit of force to seat them with the little hand press.

>>62906894
Here's hoping you don't blow your Glock up anon

>>62906589
I have that same one. Thinking about getting the bullet feeder because that would increase speed by a lot

>>62906955
I totally get why people would get that but honestly I'm fine just placing them myself. I enjoy the process, and when I'm in my workbench closet with some music playing on the bluetooth speaker and a drink, it's a nice way to vibe out. Tunes, booze, and gradual, steady bullet production.

>>62906987
Ya I love that vibe. The bullet feeder would take away the most time consuming step, but feeding the case is comfy and takes no time at all. I also use a powder cop every time because the consistency on those drops is just kinda aids

>>62907001
Consistency is easily 1/10 of a grain.
Polish it and add a powder buffer. after that it's mostly technique.

>>62907010
I didn't think to polish it, I'll try that. I did learn after awhile using my single stage that you're meant to cut the grains when you come down. Back then I was getting ± .2-3 grain spreads

im jelly. you fags are talking about microscopic details about microscopic results, and your being bros about it.just bros with similar interests...what a thing wish i was autistic about powder weights. shit sounds comfy.

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>>62907216
What books/manuals are these?

>>62907430
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352221190159 for the plastic bound one and the other is Hornady volume 10.

>>62905833

This. I use a Lee Loader Classic in 9mm, which is literally a standalone single-caliber die you hit with a rubber mallet. $30 out the door, has technically everything you need in the box save for actual components/powder. Actually safely using it with modern powders (that aren't on the little charge card) is a different story though. I ended up spending like $100 on an Accuprime, powder trickler, digital scale, calipers, bullet puller, etc. Good news is I can now churn out a round every 3-4 minutes even with multiple checks and grug hammering; since I live in California reloading even a common round like 9mm is worth it.

Protip: Hodgdon's website has a free powder charge manual on it. It's pretty basic but you can input your caliber, powder, bullet weight, etc, and get a usable formula so you're not gonna blow your hand off from a Bubba load.

>>62906894
Bullseye is good as well, sounds like you've got a handle on things.

>>62906894
>my uncle gave me a bottle of bullseye
Are you me?
The one he handed me was from 92. been loading for years, but I stop by to show him things occasionally.

>>62906138
I find that powder dipper set to be handy. No so much for normal reloading, but for things like adding a little fast powder to solve ignition problems with large-bore rifle cartridges, black powder, small bore shotshells, etc. The thing that tickles my autism is that the set of dippers doesn't include the smallest size. If you want that one you have to order it separately. It only costs $1, but you'd think it would have been included in the set.

>>62907641
>9mm every 3-4 minutes
You need a real press. Going slow I can at least do 6 a minute.

Midsouth Shooter has White River LRP for $79/1000 or $390/5000, free hazmat.
Hazmat Promo: FHM1124

>>62903373
>zoomer accustomed to Ikea tables begins hyperventilating at the thought of not only the table surface actually withstanding any sort of equipment being placed on it, but someone having the money to buy actual hardwood table

My friend has PTHC and I've seen it. He also gave me his reloader as he no longer wants anything to do with it.

>>62903373
I put my together using 2x4 skirts.
Heavy 4 layer laminate top, and 4x4 legs.
Now I have to cut the legs off to get it out of my house because I stripped the screws.

Also, for you gents who load a lot of magnum pistol, Powder Valley has #8 BE86(similar to Unique) for $250. That makes a lot of practice loads.
They also have #8 Accurate 4100(same as Ramshot Enforcer, similar to H110/W296) for $250.
If you like shooting a hell a lot of magnum revolvers then you can easily subsist on just those 2 bargain powders.

Have you guys seen the price of IMR4227 or AA5744 recently?
Holy fuck.

>>62906589
What bench is that mounted on? Looks handy as shit for apartments.

>>62908497
Lee also make small handpress for 90 dollar but he went with the 30 dollar grug hammer one.

>>62908697
>apartment
When I lived in an apartment in college I mounted my loading gear to a piece of plywood and then temporarily clamped it to the kitchen counter when I used it. Only cost was a piece of plywood and some C-clamps.

>>62908697
Grinder bench

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>>62908997
Using something similar for my P-W. 2x2 sheet of MDF on to with a hole cut so the shells drop into a bucket underneath.
>Right now it's storage while I wait on parts to repair it and move a plotter into place.

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My order of 250 350 gn xtp mag 500 bullets came in…. So I think I know what I’ll be loading tonight. 45 acp for scale.

>>62910990
Big 'ol bullets!

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>>62907430
I recognize that set up from a previous thread. You the anon with a bunch of starline 45 super?

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And here we go. Loading reduced recoil loads on unique tonight. Spicier stuff tomorrow. 500 bushwacker dies still work for 500 mag.

I just got a set of .357 dies from RCBS marked 79 from when they had separate .38 SPL and .357 MAG dies. $20, it needs a new box
I need .223 dies next.

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>>62911990
And now we’re done for the night.

Light recoil unique loads 500 mag. Tomorrow night the boomier stuff, Sunday is range day.

>>62906589
Clean your fucking garbage can

>>62911864
>starline 45 super
Hell yeah! Still haven't touched it yet lol. I'm currently working on 950 .45 Auto 230gr LRNs (did 50 for a test batch), then I'll do 1000 Berry's plated 230gr RN. Both with Titegroup powder. Then split 500 230gr FMJs, half Power Pistol and half Autocomp powder. I may throw 200 158gr .357s in there for fun as I have brass ready to go. That should probably get me through the winter and in the spring I'll start playing around with .45 Super.
Unless I get rifle powder and primers and start on .30-30... haha

>>62912852
Busy little bee. You ever think of upgrading your set up? What you have is sweet, but even a turret press would speed things up quite a bit. The Lee APP is decent for pistol brass prep also.

>>62912164
He he 500 go BOOM

>>62907390
It is comfy. You would be surprised how much a little bit changes things especially in rifle. You can actually increase velocity & hit lower on target sometimes because of barrel harmonics. Once you find a node you have some leeway though.

>>62903722
Grandpa, I'm gay

>>62906084
Never sell that fucking gun, I miss mine.

>>62903397
>it took 70 years to pay off
Honestly, I respect that.

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>>62912997
>upgrading
Next house, bigger shop: yes.
Current is roughly 8'x10' exterior dimensions.

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>>62913357
I’m not much of a sell guns kind of person. For what it’s worth I got lucky on gunbroker and eBay (for the scope) all together with shipping I’m in it for under 800$…. Just have to catch the auction at the right time.. this one fits in perfect with my bushwacker in the box of boom. Really like the 44 mag/ 444 marlin, 500 mag/ 500 bushwacker progression. Debating on looking for something in 357 maximum..

>>62913484
A BFR in 357 will do what 357 Max does.

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>>62913520
I know I could just load 357 hot.. up to 353 casull if I had the right gun. But I have a weird obsession with the multi caliber look and function. It would just be neat to be able to set it out, take someone shooting and go between these three guns we can work up from 38 special that feels like a 22… to 357, 357 maximum, switch to 44 special, 44 mag and 444, then 500 special, 500 mag and 500 bushwacker. It’s not really a practical obsession, but it seems like a cool idea. Plus I’d really like to find something in double action for 357 max.


Don’t have any 44 or 500 special yet, but 44 mag, 500, 500 bushwacker and 444 marlin look wild as is.

>>62912535
woman

>>62908541
Buy a set of screw extractors [ e.g., https://www.harborfreight.com/12-piece-screw-remover-and-quick-change-bit-set-95530.html ], they will save your sanity

>>62913581
They're just easier to get ahold of.
There's not many 357 Max guns out there and I find them so large as to be unwieldy.

>>62913604
Even if I am a woman* he should still clean the garbage can. Thing is filthy
*which I am not

>be french
>war in ukraine start
>suddendly 9mm primers cost goes up to 300€ for 5000 shit magtech
thanks Putin

>>62913865
It's like that in the US too. It seems to just be inflation in the grand scheme of things.
Now East Bloc calibers being expensive is fault of the vodka monkeys.

>>62913711
To be fair, compared to that bushwacker and lone eagle a 357 maximum revolver will probably feel light and handy…. But yeah a cursory look through gunbroker seems to suggest my only likely chance for a double actio. 357 max is a used Dan Wesson.

I work remote and reload half the day. Low power 9mm and full power 10mm.

>>62914188
Why not full power 9mm and low power 10mm?

>>62913851
it's a $2 plastic can in a room dedicated to gun shit, imagine caring about it lmao

woman

>>62914235
If it is only $2, then perhaps he should buy in bulk. That way whenever it gets dirty he can throw the dirty one out and replace it with a fresh bin.

>>62915154
But anon… then he will need to buy a larger 5$ bin to hold the smaller dirty ones.

i just cant be asked to reload, it seems messy and labor intensive.

>>62915172
thats not a problem as long as you shoot normies calibers out of boring guns.

>>62915336
>RCBS
>ASS

>>62912535
Nah, dried shellac doesn't hurt anything.

>>62915489
>clearly says RS5
Lol. I know your vocabulary is more sophisticated than that, fren.

It's insane how tedious and time consuming the hand reloading process is yet to automate it and save time you basically have to spend $1,000,000 on an automatic system.
Idk if I shoot enough to justify one milly, might just keep buying boxed stuff.

>>62915754
Filthy casual

I assume /k/ is too poor for an automated loader?

>>62915825
Weirdly the same reasons that got me into reloading (shoot a lot of big weird expensive ammo) end up being the same that keep me from considering automating it… namely I really don’t need to automate 454 casull or 500 mag production…. Putting together 50 - 100 of them doesn’t take all that long, and I have no reason to keep enough loaded on hand to justify needing an automated setup to load them.

Anyone ever get a redding full length sizing die that 'doesn't work'? Ive got 2, a 6.5 grendel die that fold the shoulders in, denting the shoulders. And a 10mm sizing die that pushes the brass down over the base. Hard to explain. But i had to get lee dies and they work fine. Redding was my goto but probably not anymore

>>62915855
Does the Redding have a vent hole? Excess lube might be the problem. I assume with the 10mm dies they are tc. If you followed setup correctly then it might be a manufacturing problem. Contact their customer service & see what they say.

>>62915855
Got any pics? All i use are type s bushing dies and have only had one stuck case. That was my fault because it was the first one, i didnt lube it, and the die itsself was squeeky clean from brake clean.

>>62916361
Forgot to mention that even soaking it in oil the case didnt come out. I had to use an oxy-acetalyne torch to melt the brass case.

All the oil caught fire and now that case has a funny burnt oil rainbow colour to it.

>>62916395
Err...the die has a funny colour

>>62908497
>>62908832

I don't have anywhere to realistically bolt a press to, but I can use my Lee on any sturdy scrap of wood. It is what it is.

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>>62903703
>he isn't a sharpshooter
NGMI

>>62903816
What site do you use to make those ai images?

If my name is Lee is it gay to use Lee reloading equipment?

>>62903373
You are if you’re shooting low-production number calibers. You can’t save money reloading 308, but .257 weatherby bag? Hell yeah

>>62916623
No, masturbatory maybe to a mild degree? But get Hornady or RCBS for more longevity of equipment.

>>62916642
>You can’t save money reloading 308
If you're fireforming brass to your chamber, measuring powder to the hundredth of a grain and buying quality projectiles: priceless.

Stuck another .223 in my full length sizing die. Glad I have a spare...

>>62917888
Jesus wept. Remember fren be like Goldilocks. Not too much lube, not too little.

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My dad has a press, tumbler, etc. and I'd like to take advantage of it sometime for reloading 45-70. Is this kit all I need? Do I need the crimp and govern gauge?

>>62918982
You can crimp with the seating die, so that will work. You'll especially want to do that if you're using it in a levergat.

>>62918982
that's what I reload .45-70 with. works fine.

>>62919189
From my experience the Lee factory crimp does a better job.

>>62906894
>Bullseye in a 30-06
You're lucky anon, that stuff is great and hard to find in stock these days!

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>>62903373
>he needs a tabletop to mount his press
get on my level, casual

>>62919281
It certainly does since it's suited for it, but its not entirely necessary. If you don't have a consistent trim length I would definitely hop for it, but if you're consistent just using the seating die is fine. at least imo.

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>>62919403
and for the grugs out there

>>62919189
Nah it's in a Trapdoor reproduction.

>>62919624
>If you don't have a consistent trim length I would definitely hop for it
Ohhh. Now you helped me understand. I have 99% of my handloading knowledge from my engineer boomer dad. He even advised against me trying .45 Super as "it's not in the books" but I love him dearly. Just need to prove to him that reloading info is safe from outside of "approved" sources lol.
I will factory crimp these 45s still as I need to haha. I still have about 400rds to go and then I may try 100rds of plated with crimping while seating.

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>>62920505
Forgot pic...

>>62920505
Yeah, all boomers have that "handload blew up the gun in the next stall, 3 people went to the morgue" story.
SAAMI is also perfectly ignorable in a proper gun. The best cartridges often have ancient data or none.

>>62920744
Older books typically have hotter loads than books from more recent years. It's not like Win231 powder got hotter over time lol.
Still though I know how to work up loads and check for signs of overpressure. All from what I was also taught lol.

Hey guys do you know what I did with that piece of brass? I got the other 19 from that box I bought resized but I can't find the last one. I swear I just fucking had it.

>>62920889
>Older books typically have hotter loads than books from more recent years.
Why?

>>62920926
Probably liability on the publisher for sure, and lower loads would make a lot of guns last longer.

>>62920889
Some powders did, like 2400.
Others were caused by SAAMI dropping pressure per S&W's request.

>>62920908
I accidentally shoved it up my right nostril.

>>62921049
Good to know!

>>62920889
>>62921127
Oh, but to clarify, using those old loads isn't going to cause a blow up a gun.
There was an old Speer manual that hd several misprints though, don't recall which.

>>62920926
>>62921001
colt begged SAAMI to lower pressures on .357mag because their guns couldn't handle it. you can shoot those loads in real guns no problem, though.

>>62921120
FUCK! I turned my whole reloading room upside down looking for it and you had it the whole time. Just when you think you know a guy.

>>62921196
It was S&W bud.
The K-frames in 357 had a relief cut at 6pm in the forcing cone, this tended to crack especially with light bullets/heavy powder charge. They also liked developing endshake.
The N frames in 44 Mags could literally be shot loose in under 500 rounds of heavy(boolit/charge) in their earliest iterations.

>>62918982
Make sure you have something to load the primers with. On the off chance your dad only loads small stuff make sure he’s got the correct attachments for large rifle primers.

>>62919627

I've got one of these. It's super slow but fun.

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>>62921049
If you want hot 357 loads look up European load data. They never lowered their 357 specs. If you want to load pissin hot stuff it’s not a bad place to start… just don’t misread the max pressure… I did that and ended up loading some 158 gn jhp rounds on 15.6 gn of accurate #9 before realizing I’d miss understood the max pressure…. Was getting 1427 fps out of a 7 inch Blackhawk…. I’d misread 57000 psi as the max when that’s actually the proof pressure for euro standards.. the max pressure they recommend is 44000 vs 35000 for Saami…. Those were some spicy rounds..

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>>62921695
To be fair a standard deviation of 20 isn’t too bad for loaded hot as hell….

>>62921695
I don't need it, I hand it out.
AA9 doesn't turn in very good velocity for pressure. Lil Gun does God's work for (low) pressure and (high) velocity in 357, but it's hell on forcing cones.
Slowest I use is 296 under he RCBS 35-200 boolit.

Just starting out and had a question.
Any hangups around having a reloading setup in an uninsulated garage? We have mild temp swings and standard hot (100 at extreme) cold (10s at extreme) but not too humid seasons here. I would keep the powders inside the house tho. Anything else I need to consider on a garage setup in these conditions?

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>>62918982
yes that's all you need

>>62903373
>saving money
>from reloading
Unless you're doing it with some unobtanium ammunition then you're not even breaking even

>>62921917
You do break even on 9mm, only worth it for the fun of reloading.
But .45 Auto, .38 special and .357 magnum you definitely save money.

>>62921917
>>62922004

There's only a few situations where reloading 9mm is worth it, and most of them involve California. Shit's actually mostly worth it here due to all the new laws/taxes.

>>62922175
One thing that would make 9x19 worth it is if I got a hand fitted Bar-Sto barrel and Cajun trigger in my CZ and worked up a SWC load. But if I'm shooting SWCs for points, .45s make larger holes lol.

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>>62903362
What else do I need?

>>62922691
Assuming you have the casings, primers, bullets and propellant already...
This should be enough as long as you're using new brass.
If you want to reload spent brass
you'll need a gauge or calipers to make sure the fired casings aren't too long, and a trimmer and deburrer if they are.
Also a tumbler to clean them

>>62922691
>>62922791
>tumbler
I'd recommend the Frankfort Arsenal one.

>>62922791
>Assuming you have the casings, primers, bullets and propellant already.
hur dur thanks dickweed
>you'll need a gauge or calipers to make sure the fired casings aren't too long, and a trimmer and deburrer if they are.
>Also a tumbler to clean them
actually useful, thank you

>>62922807
This anon has one. Word of advice. Don't over tighten the wingnut. Ruined one bowl doing that. Got a replacement & cut a piece of fuel hose to go over the threaded rod as a spacer. No issues since.

>>62922807
I've had a good experience with mine, would rec.

Anyone have experience with the RCBS Rockchucker kit? I bought one like 6 months ago and still havent even had a chance to even set anything up. Still sitting in the box in my garage lol

>>62924787
Yeah I like RCBS. What are you going to reload for?

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just went turbo autist and bought some incremental neck sizing mandrels and dies. My bushing kit is okay but I want to see how much smaller my groups can get.

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>>62922691
Too much CONSOOM PRODUCT and I'm sure some anons will talk you into even more. Your beginner setup should cost less than $100 without exceptions.
Buy the caveman kit. Buy a mallet. A piece of steel wool/green scotch-brite cleans the case. Your pocketknife chamfers and deburrs the case if needed.
Done. You now understand the fundamentals and can handload your empties anywhere.

>>62925049
I got it primarily with .44mag, 45LC and 30-06 in mind. But 45 auto would be great to do as well. Id like to do .308 but I dont shoot it too often and my PTR rapes those casings with the force of a thousand stallions so not too worried about that just yet..

>>62926154
>strong opinion
>stock photo
damn, that's crazy, tell me more.

>>62926154
Those kits are garbage and do more to discourage reloaders than any other product.

>>62926154
It's so good you didn't buy one, otherwise you'd have a picture of yours.

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>>62926242
>PTR
I refer to G3s and their derivatives as "where good brass goes to die" even though I don't own one. But yeah I get it.
>45 auto
Hell yeah!

>>62926357
Isn't it all so tragically predictable?

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I don’t really save money reloading. I just get to shoot a lot more for the money I spend. But 500 magnum is one of those calibers that feels like making bank on when I reload. Fun stuff.

>>62906080
>Most reloaders realize they aren't really saving money.
For me I just end up shooting a whole lot more than if I were forced to buy factory ammo. Also yea it's insanely more accurate too but it seems like most people I know don't shoot more than 25yds so it's not like they'd ever know.

>>62918982
Depending on the priming tool you may also need a different shell holder for it as well but otherwise yes. I picked up a hornady hand priming tool and it really does not like rcbs shellholders.

>>62926154
>and can handload your empties anywhere
I don't need to reload them anywhere I'm exclusively going to do it in my garage

>>62926357
>>62927160
>>62926631
>muh stock photo
Is this the new psyop? I haven't posted in a while
>>62926461
Strange, as one of these kits held the world record in precision for several years.

>>62928157
>ahhhh I got called out
it's a way to filter subhumans. if you believed what you said you wouldn't use a stock photo. you don't believe what you said, so calling you a subhuman spamming faggot is the right thing to do.

>>62928157
You need to post your reciepts along with some kind of id like a drivers license and don't forget to also tell us the serial numbers on all your guns.

>>62928193
>well poisoning same fagging
we aren't as stupid as you are.

>>62928200
You may very well be as I'm not the poster who you are thinking of.

>>62906080
>you're not saving money
The way you calculate it is: for the amount I am shooting, have I saved money over buying factory ammo.
The answer is always yes.
I went through almost 4000 rounds of 357 Magnum this year, cost about $800 for that. To buy them as factory ammo would be minimum $1600 and upwards of $2400. So get to $800 cost, I would have needed to shoot <2000 rounds.
Why would I want to shoot less?

>>62928375
Some people can't into math. .45 Auto prices dropped for bulk ball ammo to around $0.35-0.40/rd from a few years ago.
If I can reload it for $0.24/rd using $0.13 powder coated LRNs, $0.09 per off the shelf retail price primers and $0.02 worth of powder from a retail source I'll do it. Bulk prices with plain LRN is even cheaper if I wanted to squeeze a few more cents out to save $. I don't shoot enough in the winter to buy 5k primers, an 8lbs jug of powder and bullets by the thousands instead of just per 1k, but next summer I probably will.
8lbs of Win 231 should get me 10k rounds at 5.5gr charge, I'll buy 10k LPPs and possibly stick with the powder coated 230grs and throw in some SWCs. Less smokey than wax coated.

>>62915154
>putting garbage cans in the garbage
anon that's how we get black holes in space don't do that

>>62928445
When I started loading 500 bushwacker the numbers look like “1 pound of cfe blk will load 70 rounds.. so .57 in powder each, .70 to 1 per bullet depending on what your loading.. .12 per primer.. so 1.39-1.69$ per round.” If your buying them as loaded ammo it’s about 6$ per round after shipping…. Looking forward to getting into casting and coating my own bullets.

>>62932033
I'm tempted to buy some dirt cheap 223 bullets that are 55gr because they're 1/6th the price of the 80 and 77gr stuff I get right now. Problem is my 80gr load is excellent, so good I'm afraid to change. However for the price I'm pretty sure I will and just use that gun for practicing in the wind. 223 bolt action and I've got 0-400yd, ~750-850yd, and ~900-1050yd shots available. I'd love if there was something in closer to 600yd for the 223 for me but there isn't. Thoughts?

>>62932173
Sorry man, I shoot and reload just handgun stuff (for some absurd sizes of handgun) so I don’t have much help to offer for 223. But I would say it can’t hurt to try, you might stumble into something surprising.

>>62932611
I'm canadian and didn't already have a handgun so I'm screwed there. What brand of bullets do you shoot? I found Campro after I picked up a 45-70 and they are very cheap and seem to have mostly handgun projectiles. Their 55gr option for 223 is ~$65 for 500 bullets versus ~$600 for 1,000 77gr scenars from lapua. Wish I could find a bulk box of 80gr hornady bullets but seems like they only got boxes of up to 100 here (that would cost about the same as 500 campros). Given the vast price difference I'll most likely order up a bag eventually.

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>>62932728
Hornady for the xtp mags in 454 and 500, TII for powder coated 500 diameter bushwacker hardcasts. Missouri bullet company for some hardcast 357, a lot of the rest I’ve mostly picked up from estate sales and don’t know exactly where it came from, but if I’m finding a 500 count bag of 230 gn copper plated round nose 45 for 20$ or 44 mag hardcasts… 45 LC cowboy hardcasts… random 38 wadcutters and others then I’ve been just getting it and trying it out. Can’t argue with the pricing.

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>>62932776
I use quite a bit of MO bullet Co, only used their coated 158gr SWC and the coated 180gr WFN in 357 Mag.
Also found pic rel to be a laser beam. Keith knew what he was doing because these bullets are substantially more accurate than others I've used.

>>62932776
What kind of dies do you run? I'm pretty new to the game so I've got a few sets of lee dies, one rcbs set, and one redding set. Hard for me to compare them all right now just due to lack of something to compare to with experience however I can tell you that the lee seating dies will leave a scuff ring on your bullets however I can't blame that for misses at long distance with my rifles. The set of redding dies is quite nice and the seating die seems to be better at seating the bullet straight.

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>>62932776
Some of the fancier fun stuff. Those sierras and the heavy 44 mag hardcasts with the gas checks I’m gonna try in 444 marlin with my lone eagle.. but also I want to order some of the 125 gn Lehigh solid copper penetrators… had some issues running 44 mag in my lone eagle where it occasionally keyholes.. some of that might be the jump before it hits rifling, but also I think the rifling being fairly shallow is part of it…. The 125 gn solids have a hollowed base and I think it might widen out and help engage the rifling, sort of how a webley does… and regardless of that from what I can see in GRT I should be able to run it in 444 marlin cases on lil gun powder and get it up above 3200 fps out of a 14 inch handgun…. Since it’s a single shot I don’t have to worry about length and if it’ll cycle.. should be fun.

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>>62932808
I’ve got a mixed bag.. Lee, Hornady, RCBS, and the converted bushwacker dies are a converted Lyman 500 mag set. Got Lee collet crimps for 500 mag, 44, and 500 bushwacker.. I like the Hornady sets, looking at those for a dedicated 444 marlin set instead of being creative with my 44 mag seat, from, and belling dies…. I would recommend looking for used seat dies whenever your in a gun store… I’ve got about 5 in 44 mag, lets you leave one at a particular setting for one individual bullet type… also you can get seat dies with different bullet profiles.. the Hornady sets come with a flat and a cone for the pistol dies…. Also if you want to get crazy I’ve been told (haven’t tried it yet) that you can put bondo or other epoxy on the end of a flat seat insert, then put the bullet you want on it (coat with something to help prevent the epoxy from sticking) then wrap it in tape and let it harden… after it hardens remove the bullet, clean it up and then put the post back in the die and it’ll be a solid match for the bullet your loading.. worst case scrape and sand the epoxy off the post and start over… also I run 2 presses and if you can grab extra seat/crimp dies you can do a seat on one press and crimp on the next for a fairly smooth workflow…. Probably more finicky than a progressive press, but cheaper if you find the right used single stage…. Since I don’t load thousands of rounds in one go it’s a good system for me..

>>62932875
>two presses
Not a bad idea at all. I'm just using a basic lee single stage press and it works great. Long distance rifle I haven't ever used the crimp dies from my lee 4 die kits but my rcbs kit for 45-70 the seating die also crimps although I'm not sure how well it does but then again I've never ran into issues with it with a 5 round tub on the gun.
You have to do much case trimming for pistol brass? For my rifles generally I don't unless the brass grows like mad each firing. Been thinking about trimming my 45-70 brass after each firing just for the sake of that seating/crimp die consistency.

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>>62932975
The collet crimp dies are nice for that because they put a crimp in at a specific length on the cartridge. So if it’s a little long then it still gets crimped where it needs to be. I don’t trim all that often, I’ll check the bigger stuff like the 500’s and 454 every reload, but I don’t tend to load tons of that.. I also trim anything I’m trying to load specifically for accuracy.. mainly some 357, and some 45 acp. The rest I don’t worry about all that much since 45 LC and 38 special can’t grow long enough to be an issue in my 357 or 454… As a general rule of thumb if your trying for accuracy specifically you want to seat and crimp in separate operations, which is why the lee sets come with the extra. Also for what it’s worth I tend to go overboard with the crimping, especially with those collar crimp dies.. but with the larger heavy recoil revolver rounds it can actually work a bullet lose and lock up the gun if it doesn’t have enough crimp. Happened to me on some 454 last week. I’d apparently not put a heavy enough crimp on this. Luckily I was able to work the cylinder around and get this to slip out around the forcing cone instead of having to take the gun apart. This is a 240 gn xtp loaded on h110 in 454 casull and gets up to 1350 fps…. Out of a 2.5 inch ruger alaskan…. And sounds like the worlds exploding as it does…. Annoyingly Lee doesn’t have a 454 collet crimp die.. apparently you can special order it from them which I keep meaning to look into, and a few companies including TII apparently will modify one for you to length…. Also don’t mind the mess but this is my press setup.

>>62933014
If I'm shooting the rifles far I typically single load despite having mags for all of them but I bought the 45-70 specifically for a bush gun for wild animal defence so I'm not quite chasing accuracy on that one like my others. Even for my long stuff I'll sometimes load up a mag of uncrimped ammo and I don't think it's present any issues. The only real issues I've ran into so far were 45-70 bullets with ballistics which really fucked up my seating depth for the sake of feeding.

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>>62933055
If you mean those Hornady ftx rounds with the polymer tip then yeah… for 454 and 444 marlin and probably some other calibers (although not 500 s/w oddly) they have to trim the brass for those down. I actually don’t like getting them because I have to be careful to keep the brass separate from my regular stuff. Pic is 444 marlin ftx next to normal length handload and new star line brass.. notice how far back the ftx casing is trimmed… its usually a footnote in most reloading manuals..

>>62933055
with ballistic tips*
I'll be sticking to flat nose projectiles for that from now on

>>62933098
>they have to trim the brass for those down
off the top of my head it's supposed to be something like 2.100" max and for the tipped ones you have to trim down to 2.040". Would essentially spoil all the brass and trap you into sticking with that projectile.

>>62933103
Yup, at least it’s all headstamped for Hornady usually so it’s easier to sort out if it’s all mixed. Pretty much everything I’d shoot an ftx round from won’t care if it’s loaded long.. I’ve debated picking up some of the bullets to mess with and just working up a full length load….

>>62933098
>Hornady ftx
>have to trim the brass for those down. I actually don’t like getting them because I have to be careful to keep the brass separate from my regular stuff
Yeah I ran into some of their .357s in range pickups. Such a dumb design by Hornady.

>>62933115
Had a box of 100 of them and decided to finish loading and shooting them just to get them out of my hair. Accidentally bought some 0.452" projectiles and after I found out they were the wrong diameter I stopped loading them.

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I printed 180 pages of these reloading log sheets my dad made in excel sometime in the late 90's/very early 2000's. He has probably has 60+ pages filled himself. I'm just taking advantage of the work printer before they move to a monitored system.

>>62907216
What do you use that computer for?

>>62933904
I have a 5TB external HDD half full w/ pirated TV shows attached. Just something to have on in the background. I used to play MST3K a lot but lately just older Simpsons episodes. Just something I don't need to pay 100% attention to. I really want to rewatch Stargate SG-1 and the X-Files but I'd want to pay more attention to those.

>>62903362
Any anons reloading 10mm? Trying to find some reliable load data for 180gr at 1300fps that won't grenade my glock

If the gun feeds normal length, then I don't trim for the FTX bullets.
Don't particularly like those anyway, but the 325gr .458 do have a slightly better ballistic coefficient than the next 300gr. Comes out to 2.650" in 45-70 untrimmed and 2.590" if you trim it. Both feed in my 1886 and I bump up the charge to compensate for the extra length.

>>62915154
Or he could just not consoom and just keep the same one, regardless of what some 4chan fag thinks about it

Has anyone here ever needed a small base die for a bolt gun? My REM700 is having a shit time with all my reloads sticking in the chamber after firing them. Even putting them in my case gauge is a bit of a pain compared to factory loads or the unfired brass that I have.

>>62934402
How are you crimping?

>>62934442
lee collet crimp. is it bad the cases don't fit even before I seat the bullet?

>>62935410
Yea, bad. What exactly do you mean by don't fit? As in you didn't expand the case mouth? Also what caliber, source of brass and what bullets? Are you using too much case lube and not wiping it off?
I know it's a lot of questions, but it's the only way we can assist.

>>62935491
>What exactly do you mean by don't fit?
Anon seems to be talking about his brass sticking in the chamber of the gun (or in his case gauge), not the fitment of the bullet in the brass.

>>62934402
Anon, let's say you take a fired piece of brass, full-length size it, but don't do anything else to it. No bullet, no crimping. What happens when you try and chamber a freshly resized piece of brass? Does that stick?

>>62935491
so before I charge the primer, powder and bullet I check it in a case gauge after trimming and resizing. I wipe everything down after sizing with alcohol so it wont stick in the gauge. bullets are a selection of hornady and sierra that I've been working through.

>>62935524
that's the part that's got me feeling like a dumb ass, it will chamber just as easily as new, unfired cases but it seems like I'm doing something that makes them stick after firing. The only reason I'm bringing up the case gauge so much is that I had never needed one until recently. I always checked my reloads in the chamber before I went whole hog and loaded a whole batch.

>>62935686
>check it in a case gauge after trimming and resizing
I check with a gage after seating and crimping. Am I doing it wrong?

>>62935686
So, just to make sure I understand you correctly:
-new brass chambers/gages easily
-freshly resized brass chambers/gages easily
-fired brass tends to stick in the chamber and your case gage
-this sticking problem is worse with your handloads compared to factory ammo
Is that correct or did I misunderstand?

>>62935701
>I check with a gage after seating and crimping. Am I doing it wrong?
That is formally correct, though more work than what a lot of handloaders do.

>>62935701
I have always just checked in the chamber after seating and crimping, that's why I so fucking confused.

>>62935743
>new brass chambers/gages easily
yes
>freshly resized brass chambers/gages easily
once fired, fresh resized chambers and gauges easily but all firings after don't gauge well
>fired brass tends to stick in the chamber and your case gage
yes, I am just realizing now that after the first reloading with this brass I didn't have the stuck brass problem.
>this sticking problem is worse with your handloads compared to factory ammo
right, the factory stuff I shot on Saturday shot well (inaccurate as hell but cycled fine) but I put in a few handloads and while they didn't need a cleaning rod to push them out out the chamber, it was tough as hell to work them out with the bolt.

>>62935743
>more work
I spot check every 5-15rds after crimping before I place the round in a box.
>a lot of handloaders
I mean, I am working through 1k rounds of .45 Auto current w/ intent on doing another 1k, followed by 2 batches of 250 (different powders)

>>62935779
you are full length resizing right?

>>62935980
yes, I should have said that earlier sorry.

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>>62918982
>Is this kit all I need?

No, you're going to need a proper powder measure, (and a digital scale) not that obsolete spoon.

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What powder droppers does /k/ like? I’ve got 3 different sizes of Redding droppers and they seem to work well, but I’m coming up on the point where I’m considering an auto dropper. I don’t do precision rifle, mostly large pistol calibers. Generally loading less than 200 rounds in a session. What’s worth looking at or is it not worth the bother?

>>62940655
Also should add I’d prefer to be able to dispense up to 110 gns in a go without having to do multiple dispenses per cartridge.. and down to 1-2 gns on the low end

>>62903397
I know this is a LARP but I feel really shitty when I think about how some people have rich family traditions and my family... Didn't live long enough to bond and create those traditions with me or my parents, and the rest of my extended family just being their own separate thing

>>62921205
In my defense, I'm retarded.

>>62940655
I'm a fan of the Uniflows. They are almost as precise as my BR3 once slicked up.
Pretty sure Culver is the only one that has the precision and range you want unless you go to an autotrickler unit.
Only have a Lyman autoscale so can't speak on any of the other ones out there.

Bump

always seemed to me like there was a gap in the market. we have zombie guns, zombie ammo, that retarded shit, and it sells, right? so why dont i see stuff like colored tracers and ammo with metal shavings in it to produce color muzzle flashes?
take a box of regular ammo, load it randomly so that a third of it has red muzzle flashes. white and blue. viola, patriotic ammo, perfect for your breadtuber gunslop intro video where the american anthem plays and a white redneck american holding an eastern firearm with drug mags unloads murica red white n blue freedom pills into the sky.
and on a tacticool market, "red means 15 rounds left, blue means 8 rounds left, green red blue are the last 3". all you gotta do is add some of that borax and menthenol and green muzzle flashes!

imagine how much you could charge for that shit.

>>62943591
>ammo with metal shavings in it to produce color muzzle flashes?
They would settle and make the powder burn unevenly, thus being unreliable and unsafe.

>>62943591
>so why dont i see stuff like colored tracers
Tracers are a thing, though they're a bit niche. Piney Mountain got back in business quick after their plant caught fire a few years ago. I suspect the main reason they are uncommon is because its difficult to find a place to shoot them since they're a fire hazard.

>colored muzzle flashes
the chemicals which are added to fireworks to give those colored flashes are highly corrosive, that's the last fucking thing you want to introduce into the gas system of your gun.

>>62943591
I think the other big reason why the zombie shit was so prevalent is because it was so easy for the manufacturers to make. Mold the polymer tips for your ammo out of green plastic instead of red and print different graphics on the box and wham, you now have "zombie" ammo at no additional cost. There's no R&D, no performance/reliability concerns, no extra liability, no extra production costs, no risk of unlit magnesium shavings in the ammo wedging in your gas port.

>>62944207
>thus being unreliable and unsafe.
>>62944626
>highly corrosive, that's the last fucking thing you want to introduce into the gas system of your gun.

both of you guys are correct, dont think im trying to argue with you about the validity of what you guys are saying...but the target market here is people who think buying zombie ammo is a good idea. reliable, safe, wont ruin your gun in 50 rounds, these are not factors takin into consideration by those who see a box of ammo that says "lights up like a gaming computer!", and buys it.

>>62944669
yeah, guess so. impossibly low amount of effort to make zombie ammo versus atleast a tiny amount of effort to atleast test a few rounds of corrosive stupid ammo that will fuck atleast one test gun along the way. still, surprised atleast someone hasnt done it yet.

>>62946112
To be fair, you do have a point. There's is retarded shotgun ammo with questionable safety on the market like bolo slugs, flechettes, "dragon's breath", and other novelty crap and some people do buy that stuff. Pink or blue smoke gender reveal ammo doesn't seem much different really.

>>62946176
okay so maybe the market here is guntubers. make a store front online, make it look legit, make just enough batches of this stupid ammo and test it, then send a free box to every guntuber with a public address. then you can just start making every retarded ammo thing youve read about on /k/, and see what sticks. wait until version 5 of your "vicodin loaded buckshot" rounds for "when you have to shoot the hostage in a hostage situation specific ammo" goes viral online. make bank.

id been thinking of this ever since i saw those cheapo lighters you buy at the gas station that have a green or blue flame? then i saw it being sold in mw2 online as some aesthetic dlc thing, you can buy a '"gun" in mw2 that has actual red white and blue muzzle flashes already.

so really, its just making it real.

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I'm good on powder, I have 4k+ large pistol and 2.5k+ small pistol primers. Bullets I can get locally, though I'm going to order bulk in Jan/Feb...
Then I looked at my non allocated .45 Auto brass and realized I only have 1k left so I order 5k range pickups for $230 delivered.

Bump

>>62903362
What auto powder measure do you guys recommend?

>>62903373
I have a metal table base I found in a dumpster and put some old pieces of plywood that were laying around on top with about $250 in equipment on top to reload with. (not including dies)
I reload cartridges which if I were to just buy them would cost me $2+ per round. The amount that I have reloaded so far has made up for the costs of the setup and dies easily. Plus I had fun so it has been nothing but positives the whole way through for me

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>>62950614
I have an RCBS, part number 98840.

>>62950753
Stand part number 9092, base plate part number 09282.

>>62950614
Oh, duhhh never mind haha. Haven't had coffee yet.

Has anybody tried dry tumbling their finished cartridges to make them very shiny? I have heard of people doing it but I dont know if it is likely to push/pull the bullet out of the case mouth at all and fuck up my consistency
>>62950614
Dont get the lee one, for finer powders it likes to leak and its annoying more than anything. RCBS is probably your best bet really.

>>62950773
I think it would be a waste of time in my opinion. However, one scenario I can think of where I would actually do it still is if I wanted a box of "presentation" grade ammo in a display case if I had one.

>>62950773
Should be done to remove the lube. 20 min in a vibratory is all it neds.

>>62950918
>done to remove the lube
I just hand wipe mine down throughly w/ a towel.

>>62950923
Which works if you;re a low volume loader.
Even my single stage is a progressive. Hand wiping is not viable.

>>62950934
>Even my single stage is a progressive
>confusedAnimal.gif

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My freshest handloads
>>62950918
I clean them after lubing, I mean after the cartridge is finished and ready to fire.

>>62950969
Nice! What diameter bullets and for what rifle? And if it's a Mosin, did you ever slug your barrel? I did mine and it's .314", but I only have .311" bullets. Haven't loaded them yet but my surplus 7.62x54R measures .308, so I assume the .311"s in PPU brass will at least stand a chance of grouping alright. Strictly a for fun range rifle.

>>62950998
I have 2 Mosin Nagants, one is am M91 and one is a 91/30. I havent bothered to slug the barrel, it doesnt make much of a difference to me when I have 2 rifles it will go to and for when I am just shooting for fun.
The bullets are 311 dia 150 gr hornady SPs.
Some of the cases are steel cases which I converted from berdan to boxer prime. I need to get more consistent in how I reload them but so far its good enough to use them and they dont shit up my guns

>>62950773
Yes. It feels good to have shiny stuff. Flitz brand additive works well.

>>62950943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJmXCwv9c6k

>>62951218
Contains ammonia. not a good thing for cartridge cases.

>>62951252
should be ok as long as you anneal your cases. the ammonia induces stress corrosion cracking, but only if there is significant residual stresses in the case.

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>>62951200
Nice! I still have yet to load any. And can't seem to locate my empty brass for some odd reason. I have my surplus 7N1 and some S&B but need to organize my shop better.

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>>62951290
>surplus 7N1 and some S&B
Picrel

>>62951265
>ammonia
Everyone ITT! This is why you do not shoot other people's reloads!

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I only own 2 presses, a Lee hand press and a Lee 6 stage turret.

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>>62950614
RCBS chargemaster supreme for me.
excessive for a beginner though.

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>>62903362
>Be me
>Grow up shooting with dad in Ausfalia
>Amass decent collection of rifles and pistols
>Fuckin' love shooting m8
>Dad shoots revolver matches
>I shoot production IPSC
We both realise we hate paying the ammo jew
>Dad buys Dillon XL650
>I buy the dies and extras
>He reloads his 38spl/ 357 and I load my 9mm
>Every year I travel interstate to spend Christmas with him
>Bring thousands of rounds of 9mm brass with me
I'll clean and prep your brass too dad thanks again for buying this sweet fucking set up
>Spend comfy nights with the old man while loading up all I need for the year
>He does the same
>It's been our annual ritual now since 2016
>I do the rounds and drive to different shops to buy powders and components

A decent press will last you YEARS and you can make your shooting budget quite cheap if you tailor your own loads.
I will never hear any whinging about ammunition prices while an ausfag is in the room, you guys don't know how much of a joke ammo prices are until you're paying $2usd per round for budget .308 and .50c per shot for basic bitch 9mm Winchester.

Killed four does today in my states opener using my reloads of Zero JSP 158gr 357 over 16.8 gr of Lil Gun. Shits fucking tits.

>>62952266
Or just clean your gun after shooting reloads not done by you…

>>62954147
>just clean
You can't just clean it if you just have your gun blow up due to shit reload. You're clearly just a dumbass.

>>62954147
Nothing to do with cleaning.
Ammonia destroys the integrity of the case. Start getting neck cracks and case separations.

>>62953775
wholesome

>>62951200
Could you explain your process in converting the primers? I have a bunch of 7.62x39 and 7.62x54r steal case i want to convert.

>>62951252
The liquid Flitz does not have ammonia in it.

>>62950614
Rcbs powder throw and a gempro 250 digital scale.

>>62928375
reloading is only cheap if your time is worthless

>>62954308
Very much so.
I have about 3k 9mm cases to tumble and prep.
Dry then wet.
Drying them off is always a lengthy affair since I can't be arsed buying a case drier when sun *exists*

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>>62954764
My brother in Christ you are HERE.
Your time is worthless by default.

>>62954770
I'm working from home

>>62954787
fair chops
so you're saying you could be handloading whilst working?

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Now that the dust has settled, how does /k/ feel about Shell Shock Tech Nas3 cases?

>>62954770
Brutal truth nuke
>>62954787
If you can work from home your job is worthless. Get a real one, you fucking woman. Unless you have a home shop; in which case get back to work, slacker.

>>62954887
Interesting, but I want to see full poly for pistol, shottie and low pressure intermediate rounds just so printing your own ammo can become viable, if time extensive.
I guess if you were dedicated enough you count potentially lost cast casings, but you would need vacuum since any void is potentially catastrophic.

>>62954764
Reloading is something you do with the time you can't monetize, so is shooting.
All of us shoot more than you.

>>62955345
99% chance it's some jelly no-guns. 1% chance it's glowies who don't want us reloading.

>Have to take turns reloading/heating up the reloading cuckshed because I don't wanna freeze or blow myself up with a space heater
>>62955345
Yep, for me reloading is about utilizing time I'd just use sitting around drinking and shitposting into something that saves me money, I have a limited number of hours I work a week in comparison to my downtime where I can do some light work without feeling like I'm doing 2 jobs. 4 hours of entertaining myself with reloading to save 150 bucks in costs for ammo is worth it for me because I don't value free time after a point.

>>62956381
So dont do it. Its a hobby like anything else.

>>62956394
Yeah hobbies are for the time you're not doing important things with, hence my point in using it as a way to also save money.

>>62956405
Some people can't comprehend hobbies because all they do is consume media.

>>62956405
My bad meant to reply to >>62954764 I actually agree with you

>>62956381
Another thing I'm trying to do is keep the components near room temperature, considering some hot water bottles and a cooler to keep my reloading supplies in as I work.

>>62956440
Why can't you just reload inside?

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>>62954770
Based and accurate.
Solid shitpost fren.

>>62955345
lol have you tried not being poor and just buying more ammo

>>62957265
Poor stay poor by spending like they're rich. Rich get rich by spending like they're poor, and investing.

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>>62957265
>>62957273
most people are poor relax

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>>62955205
k
i'll be in my pajamas if you need me

>>62957284
>most people are poor
Good thing I'm not most people.

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>>62958094

>>62954423
drill press, drill out old primer and anvil so you have a central flash hole, use a primer pocket swager (I use the RCBS press mounted one) and then with the swager press in a small length of 1/4 inch copper tubing and then trim it down with a file or a dremel or sandpaper till its flat. If you did it right then it will be ready to prime

>>62955205
no thanks wagie, i think i'll stay home and continue earning my six figure salary while browsing 4chan. great work flipping those burgers though, i bet you get tons of satisfaction from your totally not worthless service job

>>62957265
lol show me where I can buy 300 gn 444 marlin ammo and I’ll buy some.

>>62958358
Don't expect non-loaders to ever understand the beauty of loading something never done before.

>>62958337
seeing blue collar cucks seethe is megakek

>>62959073
Man imagine you could apply this level of interest into something useful? Or alternatively if you somehow are actually well off, how the fuck are you bored enough that this is the entertainment you choose? Depressingly stupid either way. You should try getting into reloading.

>>62959094
sounds like projection

Lil Gun is just $225 for an #8 at Powder Valley + free hazmat.
Excellent velocity for magnum pistols, but really, really hard on forcing cones. Not sure it displays the same behavior on lands.

>>62954767
pop them in the oven at 230 for an hour and youll be good, best if the oven has an airfryer mode and you use an airfrying basket rack for the brass

>>62964943
I wouldn't do this. Lead exposure.
Buy an old dehydrator at a garage sale and use it only for brass and never food.

Cheapest place to get powder coated handgun bullets? Per 1000 at least.

>>62965286
Lead isn't going to vaporize at low temp.
It's fine to do this in a pan.

>>62957265
Im not some poorfag gunsoomer who needs 80 different calibers for his range toys so stacking a few calibers deep with reloading is smarter.

>>62958337
who is going to tell him that answering emails is a service job?

>>62965286
>Lead exposure.
by what mechanism will the lead leave the brass and get into the oven's permanent structures?

>>62964721
Works good in 500 mag.

>>62966107
Works good in everything magnum, it just burns really, REALLY, hot compared to most powders. High nitro content.
Freedom Arms outright tells customers not to use it.

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>>62932728
>I'm canadian and didn't already have a handgun so I'm screwed there
If you're a leaf and you already reload just buy an antique webley or 44 russian, the biggest barrier to entry for antiques is ammo and reloading overcomes that

>>62966050
The convection aka "airfryer" fan blowing particles around.
Also, you touching the various parts of the oven because you didn't wash your hands before touching them.

>>62966505
Don't turn on the convection part of the oven?
Pretty ez.

>>62966505
what's the terminal velocity of lead particles compared to the median convection airflow velocity in an oven without a forced convection setting?

It should be common sense to not mix ammo components and food areas...
But this is 4chan so of course there's retards who will think it's an acceptable thing to do.

>>62967714
>I can't actually describe the problem, so I'll spout bullshit to feel smart
impressive. it's almost like you just make shit up to hear yourself talk.

>>62903373
>solid oak tabletops
thick solid hardwood tabletops for workspaces make me erect

>>62967722
Enjoy your unnecessary lead exposure, but you clearly have enough already so why bother being safe in areas where food is prepared?

>>62967762
>lead spreads by magic!
I don't think lead is your problem, you are just a fucking retard. then again, id jealously guard my IQ points if I only had 70 of them.

>>62967774
>being this mad
Lead exposure causes irrational thinking and anger issues...

>>62967816
go pull that study where the aggressive predispositions were positive answers to
>I'll tell people when they are wrong
and
>I would fight instead of being a slave
we laughed at you that time too.

>>62967850
>I would fight instead of being a slave
>we laughed at you that time too
What are you even talking about?

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>>62967863
there is a south African study that used responses to a survey to determine if firearm owners were more aggressive due to lead exposure by comparing them to archery participants at the same range. They used the Budd-Perry questionnaire, which is made up of questions ranging from loaded, to absurd. please find it attached for your perusal.

>>62967915
That's the first I'm ever hearing of it.

>>62967929
I'm sure. we've got a few retards like yourself that act like lead is a magical poison gas. Now shut the fuck up about things you don't understand.

>>62967969
You can't stop me from telling people to not put brass in their ovens like fools.
But you do you...

>>62967979
I will thanks, you're not getting lead to aerosol around the oven, especially without the convection fan.

>>62967988
yeah, but what if I have an oven that heats to 1500C with gale force fan settings?

>>62967863
ASK ANOTHER DUMB QUESTION BITCH, WATCH WHAT HAPPENS

>>62968112
Do you like chicken bacon ranch pizza?

>>62965286
>>62966505
i wash in a rotary tumbler and then extensively rinse so any lead exposure i met ever get is while decapping as i do this before any cleaning and then when i pour the brass into the tumbler

Anyone have experience with vihtavuori N170 or N570?