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What's the point of this if there isn't anyone on the ground willing to fight?
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>>62948817
To kill goatfuckers obviously. Do you have a problem with that?
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>russhit
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they probably need to mobilize?

even the most militarized nation on earth (israel), got overwhelmed by a zerg rush of 1000 men
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>>62948871
You are obviously a brown zigger thirdie of whatever other online enemy I’ve made up in my head to discredit your point. Fuck you.
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>>62948882
Sorry that you can't get one dogshit thread of yours to survive so you have to act like a falseflagging faggot.
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I'm hoping the citadel of Aleppo gets razed to the ground. It looks distressingly untouched by all the fighting to date. Do some damage that can't be repaired c'mon poke poke.
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>>62948882
this is why people shouldn't really assume too much from the little information they're given. a surprise raid into enemy territory is fairly easy. holding on to what you've taken is another matter entirely, and it'll take months to see how this plays out.
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>>62948889
Fuck you brown zigger thirdie. Stay in your containment threads.
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>>62948917
russia is stronger than your shithole
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>>62948817
Assad's check cleared.
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>>62948817
I hate seeing such cool aircraft getting shot down BUT it would be really funny.
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>>62948922
How dare you call America a shithole and assume BBC Puccia is stronger.
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>>62948817
>Sprinter85139049485908
Did he get banned on his original account?
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>>62948922
dead mod
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>>62948817
The infantry runs when there's no air cover. Russia pulled a lot of their liason officers back due to Ukraine so it's been harder to coordinate air support with the SAA. There's also some evidence this time around that the rebels made a more sophisticated attack and potentially took steps to degrade communications in the area.
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>Russia spends $500 billion to blow up more civilians
>Aleppo still fallen
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How does USA not simply shoot down the planes?
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>>62948922
You are gonna get conscripted soon zigger
I'll watch you die with your guts torn out licestreamed by a drone.
I'll be drinking choccy milk comfy on my bed.

Tick tock
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>>62949231
What do you mean enough? It's a forever war and you'll be enjoying it till the end. Just like Syria.
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>>62948817
>SprinterCuckmily

Literal Kremlin fake news for Qoomer boomers.
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Can those cargo planes be shot down?
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>>62949920
No because they don't even exist. That same account was saying how the Houthis sunk the USS Eisenhower lmaooo
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>>62949400
Do you expect power outages to have any military effect this time?
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>>62948817
What makes these bombs worthy of the “doomsday” moniker, exactly?
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>>62948922
>>62948945
Hey, at least russians in that mod had cool weaponry and were able to score some victories against Europe and US.
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>>62949960
Purely as a guess they are talking about the really big ones that are 5000kg or whatever but I don't actually know.
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So, is Putin going to give us some super-FAB footage on Aleppo or something? I can get behind that.
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>>62948922
>Posts a C&C mod as proof of russian strength
>Becauses there's no examples to be found in real life
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>>62948817
You can film huge explosion from afar so your pundits can caption them for Twitter.
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>>62949966
Cringe bravado. Perhaps you should lose less Su-34s first?
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Maarrat al-Nu’man.

Total frontline collapse
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>>62949924
Well that's fucking pathetic.
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>>62949960
it's just disney marketing stunt for their next movie
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>>62949980
Maybe these things are being dropped by the Il-76s? I’m not sure they run Su-34s in Syria any more. /k/ has been going on a deranged triumphant kick over Russia abandoning Syria so it’ll be interesting how big of an explosion that’ll be. I told you dumb shits I can’t wait for /k/‘s reaction when they find out that Putin CAN’T abandon Syria and it looks like it’s coming soon so buckle up morons.
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>>62949966
That would be a classic Russian strategy. Bombing your own city.
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>>62949995
You seem pretty personally involved in defending Syria, that you have to actively be on the offensive against the entire board for even the implication they thought the opposite.

All I've seen is /k/ laughing at Assad for surrending a major stronghold without any resistance whatsoever, which is entirely justified.
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>>62949995
You are right, it's only Su-24s and Su-25s and no glide kits. I doubt this is gonna change because some disinformation superspreader on twitter make vague claims
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>>62948830
Goatfuckers are doing your fighting zigger, don't speak up against them like this or they'll rape you too
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>>62949960
It's the FAB9000, a Soviet bomb developed 70 years ago. But since "number big" the Russians still think it's some sort of doomsday bomb. The filling TNT weight is around half of the US MOAB.
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yeah
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>>62948817
Who don't need forces on ground to drop bombs on civilians
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hello putin
it's assad
we need five billion rockets to bomb idlib children
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Maybe the insurgents can test their allegedly captured AA weapons against these zigger planes.
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Since I knew Putin wouldn’t abandon Syria I also wondered if the Ukie spec ops in Syria won’t have a surprise ready for flights incoming to Khmeimim air base. I read there was a strong security around it, but that was a few years before the Ukraine war so it’s not unreasonable that they loosened up over the last 3 years.
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Won't make a difference, no cope
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>>62950080
>>62950117
There will be no IL-76 going to Syria, it's a stunt to pretend they are doing something
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>>62948907
You're not going to do anything, pidorashka. You can't afford to.
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>>62948922
why do you play amerikanski capitalist video games instead of based trad russian video games on a based trad russian computer, Pietia?
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>>62949350
>please try not to laugh
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>>62949350
>please try not to laugh
Sorry too late
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Pidorstanians are running away
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>>62950204
Banan status?
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>>62950204
rebels gonna race down the M5 and capture Hama in the next days, I don't think there is anything between them and the city
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>>62950211
>capture Hama
SAA will try to regroup there. they hope kurds and turkish backed rebels will start killing eachother over the spoils.
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>>62948817
>dollar store JDAM is now called "Doomsday"
Jesus fucking Christ, can they be any more cringe?
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>>62949960
They absolutely levelled Belgorod.
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>>62950008
That’s because the MOAB isn’t designed to penetrate targets kinetically. (Though, to be fair, the FAB-9000’s drag ring things aren’t helping with that, either)
Having HE filler equal to roughly half the weight is typical for other FABs and for the Mark 80 series of bombs.
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>>62950213
Fucking hypocrisy, as if any 'peace agreement' made with russia is ever worth anything since they literally just want an excuse to build up and try again later.
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>>62950231
But Belgorod is not under attack from Ukraine (yet)
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>>62949995
Here's my reaction, you don't need to wait.
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>>62950291
Still memoryholing the failed incursion huh
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>>62948817
>FAB
>doomsday
this gets the thirdies hard
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>let's support jihadists because they're anti-russia
Did we learn literally nothing?
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>>62950297
Nobody is supporting anybody. The entire reason they launched this attack was because the EU was sending an envoy to restore relations with Syria. They didn't want that.
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>>62950297
>let's support Taliban to own the libs
>let's support Hamas to own the libs
>let's support Iran to own the libs
>let's support Hezbollah to own the libs
>let's support Chinese communists to own the libs
>let's support Nork communists to own the libs
Need I go on? You've been calling all assorted shitskins and hadjis based as your mental illness spiralled out of control since 2020
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>>62950297
How about you stop being a dishonest cunt for once in your life.
No one here is "supporting" the rebels, but they ARE laughing at Assad and by extension his russian backers for having such a poor showing at holding them off.
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>>62950297
You're browsing 4chan, there's no access to some HATO decision-making control room. No one will save assad no matter how many times you cry jihadist here.
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>>62950204
>Assad's forces are withdrawing from Taybat al-Imam and multiple locations in the Hama countryside
What the fuck are they doing? Ridiculous if true
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>>62950297
Well ziggers have been yapping about how the US only won so easily because they've fought "peasant muslims". Now is the Zigger's time to shine by showing how great the Russian army handles the same peasant muslims.
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>>62950353
Collapsing
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>>62950213
>the west cant be trusted to keep the peace deals so we broke them before they did.
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>>62950353
I think they are losing
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>>62950353
>>62950204
Blitzkrieg bros, we are so back
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>>62950157
>instead of based trad russian video games
Nta, there legit is a state funded "based trad russian" video game, "Smuta The Time of Troubles" the problem is the even russians doesn't want to play it
It's an RPG placed during the 17th century, making you fight the opposing polish forces, though the reception of the game caused some politicians to state that it was made by polish secret agents instead kek
All in all, it looks like the typical government fund grift in russia, slightly better execution than "the day before" though
>they are also cooking up a game about a PMC in Africa, wonder who they had in mind for that one kek
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>>62950317
>you've been
Take your meds, schizo
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>>62950407
>though the reception of the game caused some politicians to state that it was made by polish secret agents instead kek
There's no extent to that which russians will push their own failings onto their neighbours instead.
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>>62950407
To be absolutely fair to the Russians, state backed/funded media is always cringe, no matter the country.
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>>62950213
Russians projecting again.
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>>62950148
Not an argument.
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>>62950297
Apparently not.
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>>62950317
Literally no one has done that. You, however, are supporting literal terrorists because it owns the Ruskies.
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>>62950211
>days
already most of the way down the road
taybat al imam is the only place between them and hama at this point
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>>62950527
Is this your newest deflection.
Just because people are shittalking the failures of russian-backed Syria doesn't mean they are supporting terrorists.

You aren't going to be able to browbeat people into silence with misplaced morality wielded like a hammer.
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>>62950527
rusnogs ARE the terrorists
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>>62948817
>Syria losing Aleppo

So what's the benefit for Ukraine? Is it just a point and laugh at Russia moment or is there something here to be gained or impact on the battlefield?
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>>62950527
No one in America is supporting these guys. We just enjoy seeing dead Russians. Remember Russians spent 27 years since the start of the internet trolling Americans about every death of an American soldier, school shooting victim, riot or police brutality. And every 9/11 they do their trolling.

We didn't start this shit. We are just getting revenge. Probably until you die we will keep enjoying it. It doesn't matter how trad or femboy they pretend to be, we enjoy seeing their soldiers get turned into ground hamburger
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>>62950562
It forces Russia to divert men and materiel to Syria instead of Ukraine.
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>>62950562
Do you really not see it?

If Russia diverts resources to defend Assad:
1. Ukraine benefits directly because it means less materiel to replace Russian losses on Ukraine itself. And they have a high burn rate.

If Russia abandons Assad:
1. Ukraine benefits indirectly because Russia losses its assets, airbases and naval base in Latakia, which is the only warm-water port Russia has outside of the Black Sea.
2. Ukraine benefits indirectly because it's a huge hit to Russian morale, that they've spent billions in propping up Assad for over a decade only to lose it all so suddenly, I imagine the military is not happy.
3. Ukraine benefits indirectly because it shows to other countries that you cannot count on a Russian military alliance to defend you.

Hard to know which outcome or decision benefits Ukraine more, but either way this is a net win for them.
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>>62950594
>Latakia
Tartus not Latakia my bad.
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>>62950594
It's at least a few FABs that aren't falling on Ukrainian trenches.
That's literally saved a few lives there.
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>>62950603
And in Bilhorod.
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>>62950407
>>they are also cooking up a game about a PMC in Africa, wonder who they had in mind for that one kek
Some fictional african country, where unspecified "our guys" are helping "legitimate government" resist against "western-backed extremists and separatists". Gameplay looks like knockoff (nu)xcom.

There's also a "space ussr disco elysium" in development by someone(dont remember the name); a wargame about war in ukraine("Пepeдний кpaй"); a real time with pause tactics game about again war in ukraine and specifically battle for mariupol("Oтpяд22: ZOV"); just announced third-person cinematic action game based on "war of the worlds", but in russian empire's siberia; and there's a studio called "Lipsar" "developing" something - significance is, Lipsar is "raspil" backwards, and raspil is a name for corruption scheme of fraudulent spending of budget funds, lmao.
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>>62950213
wow, they really are incapable of introspection
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>>62950297
>let's support jihadists because they're anti-russia
yes, fuck ziggers
it's not like you actually care about the fate of Syria for its own sake, either
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>>62950594
Eh, i agree but there are caveats in almost every single point
>If Russia diverts resources to defend Assad:
>1. Ukraine benefits directly because it means less materiel to replace Russian losses on Ukraine itself. And they have a high burn rate.
Russia was mostly using Mig-25 in Syria afaik, in Ukraine they would be picked off quickly, but it i indeed less bombs to throw at Ukraine
>If Russia abandons Assad:
>1. Ukraine benefits indirectly because Russia losses its assets, airbases and naval base in Latakia, which is the only warm-water port Russia has outside of the Black Sea.
It depends, if Russia can retreat without losing most equipment it will actually help russian forces in Ukraine, but if they lose almost everything it will be as you point out
>2. Ukraine benefits indirectly because it's a huge hit to Russian morale, that they've spent billions in propping up Assad for over a decade only to lose it all so suddenly, I imagine the military is not happy.
Russian morale is already low, it helps but it won't make a significant difference
>3. Ukraine benefits indirectly because it shows to other countries that you cannot count on a Russian military alliance to defend you.
Armenia shitshow already did that, this is just an extra
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>>62950353
>send unmotivated soldiers that hate you to defend you country
>they start to run the second the enemy shows up
Wild.
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>>62950627
>Lipsar is "raspil" backwards, and raspil is a name for corruption scheme of fraudulent spending of budget funds
kek
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>>62949996
Oh thank dog Belgorod will get a respite.
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>>62950006
Yeah you’re definitely a pisslam believer. Did you take a break from fucking your sister in a cave to respond to me? I’m gonna laugh when I see your split open skull on one of the telegram war channels. Durka durka bitch
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>>62950317
You do realize that “Anonymous” is more than one poster right retard?
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>>62950317
Who is bro talking to lmao
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>>62950562
Are you mindbroken? Why do 2022 tourists always loop unrelated events back to Ukraine?
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>>62950812
What is this look meant to convey?
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>>62950812
Why did you post an ape kissing Chechen ass? Do you think I care about this?
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>>62950830
the pleasure of being cummed inside
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>>62950830
He knows the video is going to spread around and he'll look cucked but has to go through with it or else he'll face internal problems he cannot deal with.
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>>62950627
kadyrov's enjoying it kek
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>>62950888
>>62950812
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>>62950830
Submission
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>>62950812
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>>62950527
Supporting? We're sitting back and letting geopolitics correct itself without any artificial Russian pandering.
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>>62950297
>Xaxaxa US lost against goat fuckers.
The funniest part is the taliban at times stopped their own offensive on fear they will provoke US to backdown from the agreement, meanwhile here rebels are bumrushing to see who can get more russian scalps because they know how hollowe out are RuAF after nearly 3 years of SMO.
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>>62950935
>the taliban
>are now having to fight 3 insurgencies from the NRF, AFF and IS-KP
>all while stoking resentment with AQ
fun times
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>>62950562
Read Putin's thesis on raw material published at Academia, the entirety of his geopolitical strategy consist in controlling fossil fuel, but with Assad out US and EU can strongarm Syria into letting a qatary pipeline go all the way to Europe, further freeing Europe from any possible russian dependance on raw resources. This is the same reason why Putin was so hellbent on taking over Ukraine, crimea deposits were another source of competition.
In the end it all has been for naught, it's not just Syria is collapsing, GOP in charge means for the foreseable future US is back as a fuel exporter and no one within the West will want to listen to russian backed environmentalists and libtards digging their own political grave.
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>Suran has fallen
Hlaalu sisters, our responce?
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>>62950291
Correct, it's actually bombing range allowing russian pilots to get some practice in.
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>>62950972
Saudia is a rival of Qatar and Turkey.
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Is this true?
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>>62950353
What the fuck is going on?
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>>62949020
conscription? so you mean ukraine?
Kek dumbass
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>>62950983
another 4D chess move you wouldnt understand
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>>62948922
>dedicated boar bomber
I hate feral hogs as much as anyone, but that might be overreacting just a liiittle bit.
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>>62948939
rebels have no anti aircraft shit
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>>62950734
>Russia was mostly using Mig-25 in Syria afaik, in Ukraine they would be picked off quickly, but it i indeed less bombs to throw at Ukraine
Migs alone won't help there now. Russian boots in Syria are needed now if Putin wants to turn this around. If not, lol Assad.
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>>62950986
3 Day Special Jihad Operation
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>>62950986
Aleppyiv in 3 days
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>>62950594
>it shows to other countries that you cannot count on a Russian military alliance to defend you
The CSTO stopped mattering after Armenia anyway.
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>>62950972
its amazing to watch putins house of cards fall apart in real time.things seems to accelerate with each day.
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>>62950812
Based savoir of the west.
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>>62950983
Yep, he is letting him get overthrown because he can't do anything, not because he wants it to happen.
Shouldn't have thrown all your chips on the Ukrainian gamble.
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I want this pic but with il-76
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>>62950297
You see anybody Turkish in this thread?
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>>62951165
good day
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>>62950419
>There's no extent to that which russians will push their own failings onto their neighbours instead.
Its because there was brief comparision between XVI century polish and russian governance, and despite player not having choice and having to support russian model it still didn't look good when compared.
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>>62951160
Cant have it, they already fled
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>>62950972
>monopolizing fossil fuel production as the basis of your whole strategy
In the end, Monke was just a scarier version of Saddam Hussein.
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>>62950297
You have tried this in every Syria thread since the offensive began. Yes, nigger, I will support anyone who might possibly kill russian "people". No, nigger, you will not convince me otherwise.
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>>62950812
I like Kadyrov's suit, love those tropical suits with the pockets and epaulettes
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>>62948817
>Doomsday bombs
>Satan missile
Why are Russians like this? Do they get off on larping as generic call of duty antagonists?
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>>62951233
>Satan missile
That's the western designation you dork.
>The RS-28 Sarmat (Russian: PC-28 Capмaт,[7] named after the Sarmatians
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>>62951233
>Do they get off on larping as generic call of duty antagonists?
Yes
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>>62951268
I don't really like bongs because they're kinda annoying but the level of sheer hatred that the Russians have for them is almost impressive. What has the perfidious Albion done to deserve this?
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>>62948817
>doesnt use it once in ukraine
>expected to believe they'll use it to blow up some rag tag arabs in syria
Insane that people actually listen to these brain rot xitter accounts
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>>62951268
just one of the many options
NATO will fold in 30 minutes
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>>62951294
They've unironically never gotten over the Crimean war or the fact that Disraeli cucked them at the Berlin conference
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>>62951327
Congress of Berlin I mean actually, too many conferences at Berlin
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>>62951294
BTFO'd them about 200 years ago.
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>>62951191
The strong socialist influence makes both of them heavily materialist in their politics. Ukraine for example is just a massive heist that went wrong basically.

Should be said one if not the main reason for Putin's fixation on fossil fuels, other than the materialism, is because they're great for embezzling so you can pay as many people off as you can. His whole power depends on looting from bottom to top and then from top to bottom again. The problem of course is that given enough time there's not enough to steal anymore so you have to move on to another target or victim. Hence Ukraine.
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>>62951294
>>62951327
Remember that to the Russians the British, Americans and even Canadians and Australians are all basically the same people as their hold-over belief in marxist base-and-superstrucutre thinking makes them believe all these countries are dominated, ruled over and lead by big powerful financial banking elites of Angloids in top hats and monocules. To them, the Rockefellers are the people they're fighting against, the actual Brits and Americans are just their slaves.

You see something very similar for the same reason in Latin American communism, with constant talk of "Yanqui imperialism" and Yanquis this and Yanquis that regarding the US. It comes from the belief that the US is ruled by super-powerful evil banker elites in Wall Street whose power comes from having a lot of money.

So keep in mind when the Russians talk about "Anglo-Saxons" they mean every country with a English speaking population that isn't in Africa, the Caribbean or Asia.
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>>62951294
>those tiny little islands ran rings around them throughout the 19th century, cucking them out of India etc (they might seethe about "muh imperialism", but they're actually just salty that it wasn't a Russian flag at the top)
>unlike some of Russia's other historical enemies, they never got a comparable victory against the British that they can claim they got even with, which is presumably a sore point for anyone wanting to consider Russia and/or its people as superior
>even with their empire gone and after decades of economic mismanagement, the average britbong still enjoys a far better quality of life than the average Russian
also conspiracies about the britbong royal family secretly controlling the world or whatever (imagine /pol/ schizos, but with anglo-saksii instead of jews)
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>>62950213
>Minsk-4000
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>>62948817
there are still many hospitals to hit
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>>62948939
And the rebels got their hands on a warehouse of MANPADs - oh dear
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>>62951294
It's just european tradition to hate on each other, and specially the bongs
>Be German
Dresden and no one will admit it openly but they are still butthurt after WW2
>Be French
100 years war and constantly butthurt that the bridge language is not french anymore
>Be Spanish
Gibraltar
>Be Irish
Still annoyed after british rule

After so many centuries and frictions, there is always something for someone in the European continent. Although Russians must be some of the must butthurt people around, while the rest of Europe has put its petty squables onto people in suits, they are still claiming clay like it's 1914.
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>>62950527
we're just laughing at feral russorcs getting their just deserts.
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>>62951595
It's different. Germans don't like the bongs, basically nobody on the continent likes them. But at the end of the day it's not even comparable to the level of seethe from Russians. Germany might want to see Britain humbled and humiliated and they'd think that was funny. And most modern Germans don't even really care that much, they'll bring it up sometimes but bongs don't live in their heads rent free. The French are a bit more butthurt about their language not being lingua Franca anymore but that's as much on the Americans as it is on the Brits.
Russians constantly dream of its utter destruction and even write alt-history books where some time traveller goes back into Hitler's or Stalin's body or whatever and it always ends with the utter destruction of Great Britain.
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>we need to start killing each other because king mcfaggot took a shit there 200 years ago therefore it belongs to us
No wonder so many yuros fled to the States as soon as they could
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>>62951268
If these .webms of Russian internal propaganda had sound, you would know that they love to put music out of fucking Red Alert games as background to these.
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>>62950627
Probably be a must-play of /k/.
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>>62951160
Won't happen. Russians are too blunt for something like that and would just mow the crowd with auto-canons first, even if it means getting overrun when they run out of ammo.
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>>62948922
At this point I wonder if Russia could win a war against Estonia.
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>>62951715
fuck off russian shill marketing this piece of shit here
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>>62951922
I remember seeing an interview with some German general or other, last year some time during the Turkey spergout over Finland joining NATO, who was asked "Do you think Finland would be able to take St.Petersburg in the event of a conflict with Russia?" To which he answered "The only way they couldn't would be if Poland got there first."
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>>62951978
Yeah, that's why armies around the world are formed by chest bumpers with a lot of unspoken vanity, turns out that image is part of defense too.
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>>62951641
Kinda funny how so many europeans 100 years ago thought it was going to be the showdown between Great Britain and the German Empire. To their credit some had already figure out the main adversary of the century was going to be Russia and not Germany.
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>>62952115
Well, we are all retrospective warriors and it just made sense that empires fought empires.

If tomorrow China finally collapses 20 years from now people would act like it could not have happened otherwise.
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>>62950520
Ironic.
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They’re about to mount a counterattack. Major 2010s throwback kino incoming
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>>62950353
You are now aware of what a rout looks like. Guys drop their weapons and run/drive at max speed in the other direction. It happened for a bit in Kharkiv too. It happened across the whole country in Afghanistan. We'll see how long it takes for them to reestablish a line of defense. Maybe they won't lol.
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>>62950986
At this rate, it's starting to look like the Syrian version of this.

Except in Iraq's case their ass got saved in the Siege of Baghdad by the US and every Arab state sending boots on the ground to help direct air strikes and a fuck ton of air power. Syria isn't going to have that benefit.
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>>62952311
I doubt it. Hama is going to be lost before they get their shit together.
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>>62951233
I don't think it's actually called a Satan missile, that's just something we call it. They call it a Sarmat (after the Sarmatians for some reason). But yes they get off being like gay Command & Conquer villains for some reason.
https://youtu.be/hB8oGY2_gVM

>>62951385
>>62951451
I find Marxist stuff interesting but to flip it back around on them. The USSR was supposed to be a classless society but in reality you had the nomenklatura and the "new class," like directors of state-owned factories. Yeah it was "socialism" but you could also call it state capitalism in how it actually worked. Then once they started privatizing everything, those guys became overnight millionaires and billionaires. Then you had mob wars with literal hostile takeovers of businesses as rival groups fought each other to divvy up the looted ex-state-owned property, because the state was too weak to impose the rule of law.

The Marxist view of capitalist states is that the police, the law, are really there to protect private property. In Russia this is weak so businessmen need their own PMCs (mobsters) to protect them. So it's an unstable form of capitalist rule. Shareholders are also comparatively weak compared to the boss / CEO, which disincentivizes long-term enterprise planning, R&D, investing in new technologies and innovation (because that only invites hostile takeovers). Point is, the boss of an enterprise wants to extract as much money as possible out of the company. But then after 30 years of this "primitive accumulation," there's not much ex-Soviet property left to divide up (i.e. steal), and the falling rate of profit being what it is, means they can either attract foreign investment (which other capitalists won't do, Russia is too risky), increase the rate of labor exploitation (Putin raising the pension age, but otherwise this is potentially destabilizing, upsets the working class), or seek out new property to seize and loot -- hence the war in Ukraine.
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>>62952311
TWO MORE WEEKS
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>>62952311
3 day special counterattack operation
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>>62948817
I hope the Israelies deal with this.
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>>62951385
>The strong socialist influence makes both of them heavily materialist in their politics.
I'd add that the ideology the Russian state has constructed is not. You're right that the motives are materialist, but they pump out a lot of metaphysical, ideological malarkey about the Russian world and their culture and religion. This stuff is basically a mask, constructing false gods they've pulled out of the trash can of history, to conceal the nature of the crime.
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>an hour ago - 35°10′N 36°45′E
>Pro-Assad forces are back at the northern entrance to the city of Hama, having recaptured the Jabal Zine al-Abidine just outside of the city.

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2024/30-november-20-proassad-forces-are-back-at-the-northern-entrance

That's the north gate of Hama, SAA managed to wake the fuck up
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>>62950213
considering Trump's plan is essentially Minsk-3 by another name, hopefully this is the sort of thinking that makes its way to Kang Monki, who proceeds to fling shit everywhere on the idea.
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If they can't save le shitskin they're sure gonna heckin' avenge it
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>>62952369
Can't they beg Israel for help?
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>>62952403
I'm not sure whatever plan he drafts will make Putin happy.
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>>62952385
You’re all retarded and get your info from fourth rate screenshots hours after events actually occurred.
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>>62952414
Israel could legitimately take matters into their own hands. HTS is somewhat Hamas-sympathetic and Israel wouldn't want to risk further destabilization of Syria since the devil they know (Assad) has been quite passive toward them compared to some other neighbors.
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>>62952462
They will sporadically bomb all sides to stoke chaos just like they did in the last decade of the Syrian war.
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>>62952389
Oh good, maybe we'll see some actual fighting at last?
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>>62951451
>Remember that to the Russians the British, Americans and even Canadians and Australians are all basically the same people as their hold-over belief in marxist base-and-superstrucutre thinking makes them believe all these countries are dominated, ruled over and lead by big powerful financial banking elites of Angloids in top hats and monocules. To them, the Rockefellers are the people they're fighting against, the actual Brits and Americans are just their slaves

thats a long-winded way to say that Russia believes everyone else to be just like them - that rule of law doesn't exist, that democracy is a fig leaf hiding the only thing that matters (will of the elites), and the only reason anyone opposes Russia is for power's sake.
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>>62952478
Did they ever bomb SDF?
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>>62951461
> also conspiracies about the britbong royal family secretly controlling the world or whatever
Not only the world, but russia too, and more than many other countries. Since at least ww1 or around that time, to this day, and no end in sight. "Cryptocolony" theory.
> (imagine /pol/ schizos, but with anglo-saksii instead of jews)
btw, jews according to that "theory" dont actually exist/dont trace their legacy to the ancient biblical jews - they are a fake created by medieval european monarchs/nobility(out of gypsies or something), to be a front and take the blame for all kinds of shady stuff.
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>>62952389
I cannot even tell what the blurry shit in this image is supposed to be.

Maybe they won't lose Hama. Maybe they will. They clearly gave up all the ground in between.
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>>62950627
>Russians making a "battle for Mariupol game."
>"Objective 1: Bomb the civilian shelters!"
>"Objective 2: Manage to only take 4:1 losses with your total air superiority and overwhelming numerical advantage."
>"Objective 3: Raep"

If you scale Mariupol's civilian losses up to Gaza it'd be like the Jews killing 250,000, and it's not like they have been particularly surgical.
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>>62951268
Obvious fuckery aside could anything travel 200km an hour underwater?
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>>62952518
It's where we got the first wunderwaffe Pantsu footage from right?
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>>62952462
Sa5s and s300s so dead
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>>62948817
It is a weird feeling hyperfocusing on Ukraine to see the same RF bullshit applied in response to things going wrong for them in Syria.

It's like you have your own mental calculus for how much of their bullshit is bullshit, and the severity of that bullshit, but then that bullshit flies in another vector and you realise where your calculus was out by a mile.

BEEG BOMBZ ain't gonna do shit strategically to looting, distributing and dispersing thunder-run motherfuckers.
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Based moderates ushering in a new democracy in the middle east
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>>62948922
Sorry I'm late.
dead mod lmao
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>>62952791
Why do you keep trying to construct a narrative that this has anything to do with the west.
>Oh no sand people are killing each other!
good
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>>62952792
you're a fucking chink kill yourself.
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>>62952834
What the fuck does china have to do with someone making fun of your shitty mod.
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>>62952822
Not an argument. I accept your concession.
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>>62952840
chinks are the majority of (((ra2))) fans
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>>62952844
Hah these words have become utterly meaningless with how they've been spammed online by the mindless.
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>>62952844
Yeah seent that shit vatnigger. Not my fucking problem, shia sunni bullshit is as old as the difference.
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>>62952844
You didn't make an argument in the first place though. So the guy you replied to wasn't making an argument to your argument.
Are you brown skinned by any chance?
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Some freshly baked durkas
https://files.catbox.moe/mbw2jq.mp4
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>>62952883
Posted last night, recognize the beard dude
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>>62952887
Day old durkas in that case. Been sitting on the counter all day and got stale.
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>>62950233
>drag ring things
Yeah what's up with that by the way? I would guess it has something to do with stability when it's dropped, but it seems completely unnecessary when you look at all the other, normal ww2 era bombs
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>>62952791
Based
Syria first, then Iran
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>>62952791
Iran will have to raise a serious flag in response.
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>>62952791
Kuffar on notice. Takbir!
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>>62952791
Is that pro-assadist channel? How did they get video shooted by rebels.
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>>62953228
They probably just pulled it from rebel Telegram.
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>>62953182
NEVER Israel (the enemy of all Muslims supposedly) kek
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>>62953233
Probably, I would like to know the name of that telegram channel. Didn't see that video on rebel channels I scrolled.
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>>62953238
>(the enemy of all Muslims supposedly)
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>>62949966
russian children deserve death for sins of their fathers
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>>62950297
enemy of my enemy isnt my friend but they def are my allies lol
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>>62950297
>>let's support jihadists because they're anti-russia
I'm not supporting anything, just watching with bemused detachment. Anyone who feels really strongly about it is welcome to board a flight to Damascus or write Erdogan a really strongly worded letter.
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>>62950527
zegro why wouldnt i want russians to lose their heads in syria after 3 years of attempting White genocide in eastern Europe
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>>62948922
>gets fucked in Africa
>gets fucked in Syria
>gets fucked in Ukraine
I'll take my chances Vasya.
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>>62952709
with a well designed low drag shape and a powerful enough engine it could but it would probably have to be fucking huge, long and slender and i dont even what would power it
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>>62952791
based based based
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>>62953273
>literal holocaust
If by that you mean "completely standard collateral damage for any urban battle." 20-30,000 civilians died trying dislodge an ISIS force less than a fourth of Hamas' strength from a city 33% less populous. Over 100,000 were killed when the US pushed the Japanese out of Manila. Russia killed a significantly larger proportion of Mariupol's population, and even if they did punitively target civilians they certainly didn't "genocide" them.

Hamas could have ended the war any time they wanted by surrendering.
>"N-noooo! How could the Soviets enter Berlin! Don't they care about the German civilians. What could Hitler do? He has to use his cities as a funeral pyre despite having been obviously militarily defeated!"
IDK, maybe wars have consequences and if you start a "war to the death" with gang rapes and shooting toddlers you shouldn't expect to stay in power and have your enemy "just go home," because elsewise they would have to cut through your civilian shields. Tough shit, war will continue until they capitulate.
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>>62953332
You would think they'd surrender after Hezbollah made a separate peace and Iran has basically said "yeah, we can't do shit," but they seem intent on trying to hold on to power until they lose the entire northern half of Gaza permanently in the "Generals' Plan." I think that even if the IDF left today it's probably a low % chance that they could even maintain control of Gaza DESU. They've lost most of their fighters and weapons and losing doesn't make you popular, while other groups have already filled the power vacuum.
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>>62952709
Not without using exotic propulsion options, e.g. VA-111, but that requires a rocket, the "water ramjet" shit they claim is 100% bullshit. They have fuck all range and can't effectively steer.
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>>62949995
>Putin CAN’T abandon Syria
That's what makes it so funny, Putin now has to choose between Syria and Ukraine
He's going to choose Ukraine, and then he's going to lose in Ukraine and everything he's spent the last thirty years building will be left as nothing but dust
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>>62950297
You understand how funny this is right?
It took twenty years of build up and a full US withdrawal for the taliban to retake kabul, the absolute madlads in syria didn't even bother waiting for the russians to leave the country, mighty BBC POCCNR is crumbling almost as hard as the ANA did
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>>62953361
What, no? He has several large PMCs to call on to help in Syria without even slightly effecting the war in Ukraine. Besides with Trump on the way he may feel like he has the leeway to spare military forces now if it came down to it.
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>>62953386
>several large PMCs to call
may we see them?
>Trump on the way he may feel like he has the leeway
Trump called the deep strikes into russia a good thing and that he's OK with it.
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>>62953401
Redut (GRU-run organization) alone has reportedly 25k members. Woody has a group (Patriot) and Putin’s oligarchs have several. PMCs are booming in Russia. Putin can easily and quickly surge in a bunch of mercs because most (all?) of them already have operations in Syria.
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>>62952378
>it's an unstable form of capitalist rule. Shareholders are also comparatively weak compared to the boss / CEO, which disincentivizes long-term enterprise planning, R&D, investing in new technologies and innovation (because that only invites hostile takeovers).
>Point is, the boss of an enterprise wants to extract as much money as possible out of the company
Western tankies simping for a country run by people that make 19th century robber barons look like mother Theresa will never stop being funny
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>>62953401
Trump is very transactional in his thinking and wants to "win" a deal. But Putin cannot really accept any sort of compromise because at best he is going to have lost the better part of a million men killed or wounded, his economy raped, NATO expansion into the Nordics, and all his hardware destroyed to get... what, part of the Donbas and the less populated parts of Ukraine? But with the same leadership still in Ukraine?

This is the problem, for the entire thing not to look hyper retarded he needs a change in government and Ukraine and significant new territorial concessions. But Trump is likely to think this is "losing" the deal.

Now, everything his former cabinet members have said about him (recall, he picks the cabinet, so these aren't people out to get him but people he chose to elevate) is that he has a middle school understanding of foreign policy and pays little attention to it. So, depending on who is whispering in his ear he might really fuck Ukraine. But I think there is also a high chance that he gets offended by Vlad wanting a LOT and actually increases support.

Time will tell. I don't even think he knows. I can see him ratcheting up aid to pressure Russia.
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>>62951641
>French are a bit more butthurt about their language not being lingua Franca anymore but that's as much on the Americans as it is on the Brits
It's funny you haven't noticed that for the French who bitch about the English language, the Americans and the British are pratically the same people.

Same applies to the Russians...
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>>62953516
According to Gullani, who is, to be fair, not trust worthy, Trump threatened to blow up St. Basil's cathedral on a call with Putin once over some shit he was starting. Gullani wanted to portray this as a flex, but admitted in the story that Trump didn't know the "onion dome thing" was a church, so the story actually makes him look retarded, but whatever.
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>>62951715
Did someone re upload it to youtube yet? I really want to show it to my Polish and American friends.
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>>62951385
>The strong socialist influence makes both of them heavily materialist in their politics. Ukraine for example is just a massive heist that went wrong basically.
That's just half of it. What you describe is what the less-KGBified faggots in russia think, such as Medvedev's point and other "russian liberals". Get energy under control often via debt diplomacy and such (e.g. how they took away Belarus's pipeline into Europe for themselves and what they tried to do with Ukraine in 2004 - 2014 in various ways), have others depend on you for supplies and pay for it through the nose, then kick back some of that overpaid money as bribes to gain influence inside countries, etc. That's why you have german politicians working in RosNeft and GazProm after they retire or why fags like Berlusconi breaking their backs for russia. Of how the Orban regime even has power. I.e. energy supplies aren't a business, but a political weapon, but it does generate a ton of money which people in power can pocket some of it, so it's a dualistic thing.

Now czar monke specifically and a ton of more hardline older faggots have another half of the equation: "returning lands", as in rebuilding the russian empire in one way or another, directly (incorporating Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, etc) and indirectly (getting something of a sphere of influence with people like Orban or how they have Georgian politics fucked over). Now in terms of empire building they have dozens of deranged views why this is natural and essential for their survival, some of it is "logical" (from their point of view), some is strictly a culture and vibes thing. At the end of the day Brzeziński said it best: russia can't be an empire without Ukraine. Hence the illogical waste of resources on trying to get it back.
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>>62953440
Yes, those are all not in putins control. They exist under the control of others to get a piece of the russia pie when shit hits the fan
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>>62950295
>failed
It was quite successful. They got in killed a bunch of border guards and made russia look incompetent as they bombed their own city. worse yet it wasn't even ukraine that did it. it was fellow russians
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>>62950157
>why do you play amerikanski capitalist video games instead of based trad russian video games
>Pathologic
>Men of War
>Jagged Alliance
>Hard Truck Apocalypse
>Princess Trainer
>Vangers
>X-Blades
>Neuro
>Death to Spies
>Space Rangers
>7,62 High Caliber
>Syrian Warfare
Even bad Russian games tend to be charmingly ambitious, and the good ones are really good. I don't know why you'd be trying to shit on Russian games.
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>>62953661
>Jagged Alliance
you wot m8?
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>>62953628
Every one is literally under Putin’s control. Did you miss the whole PMCs must sign up with the MoD thing from last year resulting in Prigo’s mutiny? Do you know what the GRU is?
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>>62953676
oops, my brain crossed a wire with Brigade E5: New Jagged Union, probably because they both are turn based tactics games with Jagged in their name along with a word for a group.
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>>62953661
>Hard Truck Apocalypse
It's been a while since I've replayed that one. The setting was actually interesting though the whole aliens thing at the end was a bit weird. I liked the DLC more where your main goal was basically just to obtain a nuke and also you could swap your truck for a fast armoured car and mount the biggest fuckoff plasma cannon on it.
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>>62953700
Okay, because for a moment I thought that I fell into some cursed timeline. But honestly most russian games are trash, and just some which were okay were done back in the olden days of people believing in freedom and future, instead of them trying to rebuild an empire under a KGB manlet.
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>>62953661
>forgetting about Il-2 Sturmovik and DCS
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>>62953728
I actually haven't played it yet, I was mostly just going through my steam games list looking for games made in Russia, and I know I missed a few.
>>62953729
>most russian games are trash
So are most American games. 90% of everything is shit. Russia has some amazing programmers though. Speaking of which, update your 7-Zip, a major vulnerability was found in 7-Zip a few days ago.
>>62953779
>forgetting about Il-2 Sturmovik and DCS
I did, I also forgot about Apache: Air Assault, Highfleet, and Hired Guns: The Jagged Edge.
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>>62953729
Syrian Warfare is pro-Russian propaganda, and a pretty decent RTS too with some really neat mechanics like being able to position infantry inside buildings.
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>>62953867
>Syrian Warfare is pro-Russian propaganda
I'm convinced it is tongue in cheek. It's hard to tell because of how the English dub was done with a bunch of posh British voice actors who seem to have not gotten a chance to read the script before delivering their lines. I think lines like "what kind of Arab would I be if I didn't have a rocket launcher buried in my back yard" were supposed to be jokes, and the bit where the combat air controller calls in an air strike on his own position while praising the Russian government make me seriously doubt that the devs weren't being tongue in cheek and it just didn't get localized well. The dialogue when rescuing that reporter seemed like it might have been a poorly translated joke too.
>some really neat mechanics
The way they handled buying units and how your unit evolves over the course of the game made me really wish for them to make a game about a mercenary company that grows over the course of the game, and I read somewhere they were making a game about Wagner, so maybe I'll get my wish. The combination of how vehicles had supplies and the way the game handled persistent units between missions could be really dope in a game where you are playing as Wagner mercenaries in Africa with a more open ended structure with side missions and stuff.
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>>62953867
>really neat mechanics like being able to position infantry inside buildings
like every tactical wargame out there?
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>>62953976
Maybe, now that you mention it a lot of it does seem tongue in cheek in the same way as the '3 Berlin in 3 days' vid (picrel)
>>62953980
You can order units in games like Company of Heroes to face a certain direction while inside a building, but it doesn't actually change their location or how vulnerable they are to fire from a certain direction, in Syrian Warfare you can see units inside buildings and if one half of a building is obliterated by a bomb and your infantry is on the other side they can survive, there's also melee combat and cqc whenever you assault a building.
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>>62953993
So same as men of war and gates of hell
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>>62953852
>I actually haven't played it yet
You really should. It's like early fallout mixed with Elite. You start out in a shitty track armed with only an MG and while you can just speedrun the story the main point of the game is to do trade runs and side missions to get enough money to buy better trucks and guns. You upgrade from your knockoff logistics truck to what's basically a land battleship with VLS launchers and mortars or if you really have a fuckton of money a full-on plasma cannon brawler.
You can assign your guns into different firing groups so once you're in those high-end "trucks" with like 10 hardpoints you can spread out your fire. If you played the Mechwarrior games it will feel kinda familiar, except instead of bipedal mechs you're in giant combat trucks.
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>>62953993
>now that you mention it
I didn't notice until I reloaded a save before that air strike bit to use up all his air strikes, then re watching the cutscene a second time I thought "this has to be a joke" then the rest sort of fell in place.
> if one half of a building is obliterated by a bomb and your infantry is on the other side they can survive
unless it's a thermobaric, those seem to just cause everyone in a building to drop dead while all the walls fall off.
>>62954006
I haven't played gates of hell, but I have played Men of War: Vietnam, which I got because people said it was the closest experience to Syrian Warfare. It's definitely the closest I've seen to Syrian Warfare, although it didn't quite scratch the itch.
>>62954090
I plan on playing it, I just haven't gotten to it yet. It's one of the many games I have on Steam that I've never played. It makes me feel confused about why people complain about new games coming out not being very good, since there are already more good games out there than you could play in a lifetime.
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>>62954111
Just bought syrian warfare based solely on your posts. I swear to god if this game is shit I'm gonna fucking GET you.
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>>62954134
It doesn't work on AMD btw
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>>62954145
No worries here, I don't have an amd
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>>62954134
>I swear to god if this game is shit
ngl it's pretty scuffed, but to me it's in a charming slavjank way. If you can't handle the game being buggy and some things you basically just have to save scum through, you might not like it. I like that it gives a lot of options to get creative, like how in the first mission I had my dudes grab the random civilian cars that are parked around town, and parked them on the roads at chokepoints to force the enemy into a few well prepared killzones.
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>>62954179
I thrive on jank. I inject jank between my toes.
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>>62954188
just remember to steal the BTR-80s from the Russian troops whenever they show up, and their Hinds if you can manage it. Also don't leave the game running overnight to spawn camp some enemies and level up your units to max, I did that in an early mission and my save file grew to like 3gb and my whole game started bugging out and forgetting what units I had and stuff.
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>>62953661
Also want to mention Heliborne, although the devs sold out and had the game 'remastered' in such an awful way it makes GTA the definitive edition look good, but you can still play the original on steam.
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This shit shmacks. This is the shit I want in an rtt game
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>>62950317
>all the seething replies
kek. these niggers truly have zero self awareness
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>>62952445
HOLY BASED
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>>62951451
so Russian version of "The Jews" but they also push the original version
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>>62954278
I've seen people online say that sappers are useless or that only their remote detonated explosives are worth using, don't fall for that. Sappers with a transport full of supplies are amazing whenever you get an objective to defend an area or just want to simplify your life by cutting down the number of places they can reinforce from, and since they are 3 man squads they are useful as vehicle crews when you aren't defending a spot.
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I just got through the second mission without losing anybody. Im not sure a t-55 can realistically tank that many heat warheads but its fun nonetheless.
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>>62952375
>Hama is going to be lost before they get their shit together.
It was lost but the SAA rallied and re-entered it and the rebels didn't try to hold it.
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>>62953332
>Over 100,000 were killed when the US pushed the Japanese out of Manila.

Majority of them were killed by the Japs who went on a butthurt-driven rampage raping and slaughtering every Flip they could get their hands on btw

>"N-noooo! How could the Soviets enter Berlin! Don't they care about the German civilians. What could Hitler do? He has to use his cities as a funeral pyre despite having been obviously militarily defeated!"

I've said this before and I'll say it again. It's extremely fucking disturbing the sheer number of parallels Hamas has with the Nazis. Not the "being violent anti-semites bent on genocide" part, the "being delusional totalitarian retards sending children and old men to utterly pointless deaths so they can keep engaging in wholesale denial of reality just a little bit longer" part.

Read some excerpts from this and tell me that Sinwar's fantasies that don't remind you of Hitler in your average Downfall parody video https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/violent-megalomaniac-sinwar-takes-hamas-on-even-more-radical-path-e545d736
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>>62952478
>They will sporadically bomb all sides to stoke chaos
Well all sides hate them so it's not that unreasonable.
They just don't like the idea of anyone getting the upper hand is all but Assad is the least aggressive because he only supports Hezbollah
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>>62954681
>he "being delusional totalitarian retards sending children and old men to utterly pointless deaths so they can keep engaging in wholesale denial of reality just a little bit longer" part.
This is what gets me the most as well. I understand hamas, I really do get it. I also understand the Jews who hate them back. But how fucking stupid do you have to be to keep starting shit you have literally zero chance of winning when each time you do it the retaliation is worse. Not even taking morality into account it's just not strategically sound. Like I said though I understand the average dumbass Palestinian teenager who buys into it but what's the plan from the guys on top? What do they gain? They get droned, bombed, and shot just as easy as the guys on the ground
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>>62954654
>Im not sure a t-55 can realistically tank that many heat warheads but its fun nonetheless.
did you not find the atgm technical or were you trying to capture it or something? I actually never saw the t-55 in mission 2 since I snuck my sappers around and slapped AT mines on the roads into the map in a fit of paranoia after the suicide bombers gave me a nasty surprise in the first mission.
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>>62953283
>enemy of my enemy isnt my friend but they def are my allies lol
Sometimes they're just another enemy.

Sometimes it's
>let's you and him fight
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>>62954704
>did you not find the atgm technical
No I did not. If it was driven by an enemy I definitely blew it the hell up.
>were you trying to capture it or something?
I was but I forgot to bring a tank crew because I did not expect a tank in mission 2, I forgot Russians feel no sympathy like western devs
> I snuck my sappers around and slapped AT mines on the roads
The tank comes from the southern road the convoy appears from. The only engineers I had access to got VBIED'ed in the first one.
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>>62954715
>If it was driven by an enemy I definitely blew it the hell up.
it was parked by the house at the top of the hill along the road you start on.
>The only engineers I had access to got VBIED'ed in the first one.
ouch, I only lost my rpg team and a vehicle crew.
>The tank comes from the southern road the convoy appears from.
good to know, I'll probably start replaying it tomorrow, I bought the DLC on the current steam sale, so I'll do a play through of the main game to get back in the swing of things. It'll be fun to go back now that I know more.
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>>62954654
https://thedeaddistrict.blogspot.com/2021/07/hungarian-t-55-live-fire-tests.html
>Note: There was a film crew present to document the results. The resulting material was edited to make training films for new conscripts, but after a few screenings it was no longer shown because of the severe effect on morale.
The RPG-7 results were with PG-7Vs not PG-7VMs or PG-7VLs, which were common in Syria, but PG-7VMs are also very common and VLs are equally common, this article talks about the state of things in 2012, https://rogueadventurer.com/2012/10/14/update-rpg-7-projectiles-in-syria/ you can assume that PG-7VM and VLs have become more common since then. PG-7VM warheads are approximately equivalent to PG-9Vs in penetration, PG-7VLs are approximately equivalent to MT-12 projectiles in penetration. You do the math.
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>>62954720
>it was parked by the house at the top of the hill along the road you start on.
Damn How'd I miss that. I think Ill load a save near the end of the level just to pick that up.
>ouch, I only lost my rpg team and a vehicle crew.
I lost the engi's and the btr. It has hurt me enough in the second level alone that I might restart.
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>>62954726
You can get another sapper team in mission 3, I think you can buy one before the mission starts or they give you one at or near the start. Losing the BMP-1 is no biggy since the BMP-1s derp gun sucks anyway, as long as the crew survived take them into mission 3, there are a bunch of T-62s in that mission you can capture. Head to the bottom right of the map to start with in mission 3, since some decently powerful reinforcements arrive.
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>>62954731
Thanks for the tip
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>>62954733
another tip is to do the side objectives, especially saving the uncle guy. It's pretty easy and nets you a free tank crew that you can use to capture another tank.
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>>62954742
always need more tank
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>>62950407
>they are also cooking up a game about a PMC in Africa, wonder who they had in mind for that one kek
To be fair the ruskies seem to really like Jagged Alliance.
If you're talking about Sparta 2035, it's dogshit based on the demo.
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>>62954693
They’re not "stupid" — well they ARE low-IQ which makes the peasants only good for slave labor and fodder for their higher-IQ elites. But those elites are rich and powerful in exchange for managing their peasants using them canon fodder Israel’s enemies. They’ve learned how to use Western (ie US) public opinion to limit Israel’s ability to retaliate. The peasants help by setting up atrocity propaganda which ties into wider efforts to mobilize US public opinion — and up until recently that strategy was successful. Palestinians suffer and die but not enough to break the system of control their elites have set up because the U.S. steps in to stop Israel enacting a full purge every time. But, that system broke down this time; they mobilized students and the media as per usual with all the good propaganda, but this time that didn’t translate into government action to stop Israel. Society didn’t move to protect Palestinians this time. Iran tried very hard to push it over the hump and it didn’t work. They’re not stupid, their normal system of public opinion mobilization just didn’t work this time and I bet they’re trying hard to figure out what went wrong.
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>>62954757
That was my point about the Jewish retaliations being worse each time. Surely they had to realize, especially with how the US government fellates Israel, that they would eventually not be able to keep the grift going.
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>>62954762
I'm convinced their fighters weren't supposed to as much damage as they did when they attacked.
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>>62954777
This makes sense actually. Like I said earlier I understand the guys on the ground going fucking wacko with it even if it's a bad move.
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>>62954693
They're not stupid, but the long 1:43:00 lecture version answer -- and it's annoyingly Jewish -- is this (which is a very Jewish deconstruction of the Palestinian narrative):
https://youtu.be/QlK2mfYYm4U

Short answer is sunks costs and that while it's catastrophically misguided it also makes total sense within the Palestinian narrative about the Israelis being foreign colonizers who are not native to the land. The basic strategy of this kind of anti-colonial warfare owes a lot to the FLN in Algeria which drove out the French. It's the same playbook because they view the Jews as like the French in Algeria. The reality is that they're not but to believe otherwise is too painful. Another big part is trying to account for the Muslim world's weakness, and being defeated by a bunch of (formerly) penniless Jewish refugees is unbelievable so there must be some conspiracy or plot, which is an ideological cope and illusion to avoid the self-reflection that leads to building up one's strength based on endogenous effort.

Basically the whole Arab region is deeply cucked and full of undemocratic governments that depend on clientistic patronage with outside powers (Assad too) to survive, and the anti-colonial warfare strategy (while successful in other parts of the world) basically depends on trying to terrorize the Jews and detach Israel from its foreign sponsor which is seen as decisive. So to invite mass destruction on their own people becomes part of the strategy as they believe it will isolate Israel. But if the Israelis think they'll be destroyed then they won't listen to international opinion so the strategy cancels itself out. Israel does rely a lot on the U.S., but they will go it alone if they have to (it's not a preference) and they do try to make their own weapons systems (compared to most Arab countries), but endogenous strength is ultimately why they win:
https://youtu.be/aYM6uV_K7B0
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>>62953630
>took horrendous casualties and zero land
>successful
holy kope
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>>62951715
>Russia Winning Simulator
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>>62952791
So are Shia an Sunni differences comparable to Catholics and Protestants?
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>>62950407
Based Warlockracy enjoyer. Also the trend is not exclusive to russia and also these games are doomed to be shit:
- The current government allocates a pool of funds meant for expressing whatever values the ruling party has.
- Studio CEOs present their proposals to whatever committee allocates funds. The standards tend to be very low and a 1page GDO without spelling errors is often enough.
- Proposals are accepted, CEOs sign contracts that they will produce X features within Y months, funds are then granted.
- Funds are obviously immediately allocated to other projects (and to some smaller degree to CEO pockets).
- In Y months a turd is released. A turd every single time, because again most of that funding went to other projects and all the studio has to do is present something to a member of said comission (almost always not a person that plays games) to provide evidence that they're doing something and that it checks all the party checkboxes. Hence why Smuta had good animations, dialogues and voice acting, all meant to look good and then not much else. It needs to look good to keep the commission from withdrawing sponsorship.

Unlike what other anon said, it isn't exactly a grift because everyone comes out happy(maybe except for gamers but who cares about those lmao):
- The ruling party is happy because it gets to occupy some space in the digital realm, something they usually don't know how to do.
- Dev team CEOs get money for other projects and a bit for "technical expenses".
- Studio investors are happy and they encourage further cooperation with the party because other projects might end up better and then sell better.
- Devs are happy because they stay in employment.
t. I work as a designer and I even wrote a few of these.

also note that same steps apply with for example with Certain Investment Companies, and said values can cover things like Environmentalism, Inclusion and Diversity.
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Apparently Putin ordered the creation of a made-in-Russia gaming console. Some tech startup then announced the design….let me see if I can find it…here it is. A mini-PC based on an Elbrus-2C3 and PowerVR architecture. Dvach was SUPER unimpressed lol.
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>>62954918
>Russians will be able to play 2005's greatest hits + War Thunder natively by.... 2028
Impressiev
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>>62948871
I thought it was 4000.
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>>62954918
Did they run out of Dendies?
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>>62949995
>They're not running 34s in Syria anymore
Oh really? What's this then.
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>>62954918
On that note I also worked at a place where the CEO signed some deal with some chinese company as they were releasing their own console and we were supposed to port our games. All will be great, everyone knows everything, the penis is in ass no more, China is the future and numba 1, then Devkits came and it turned out to be one of those $99 alibaba consoles and inside it ran Android on some smartphone tech that our android port of our flagship game barely worked on.
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>>62954918
good taste tho
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>>62954951
Can’t make it out, but maybe a drone doing by how it drops straight down.
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Also, it’s really a wasted opportunity for Russian compsci to flex and do their own thing — but maybe Russian compsci is long gone at this point so a mini-PC is all they can do now realistically.
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>>62954693
>They get droned, bombed, and shot just as easy as the guys on the ground

You forgot that with the exception of Sinwar, most Hamas leaders don't actually live in Gaza, but in Qatar.

>>62954800
>Palestinian narrative about the Israelis being foreign colonizers who are not native to the land.

I mean, nothing's stopping them from simply accepting the creation of a rump Palestinian state and coexisting with the Israelis.

>b-but it's smaller! >:(

Singapore isn't that much bigger and now it's a beacon of civilization in Southeast Asia.

>The basic strategy of this kind of anti-colonial warfare owes a lot to the FLN in Algeria which drove out the French.

The problem with this logic is that there was actually a France for the French to flee back to, where do the Israelis have? Even excluding the Holocaust having practically wiped out Jewry in places like Poland, the Pale of Settlement where I'm gonna guess most European Israelis can trace their lineage back to hasn't existed in a century and it treated them like garbage anyway. Even Zelensky who's a Jew himself, would probably tell them to fuck off for not helping Ukraine.

>detach Israel from its foreign sponsor which is seen as decisive.

While I generally agree that the events of the last year have irreparably damaged United States-Israeli relations (the Democrats are probably going to double down on The Squad's anti-Zionist rhetoric because that actually seems to get young people out to vote, if not just become a party of full-blown anti-semites), we're not cutting off ties anytime soon.
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>>62955001
>most Hamas leaders don't actually live in Gaza, but in Qatar.
I wonder if the average Palestinian even understands how little these people give a shit about them.
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>>62955011
They most assuredly do, but on a surface level only. These are very low-IQ people, just peasants, and like all peasants their role is just to be slaves and used up as canon fodder. To a peasant their in-the-moment hype train overrides anything less-personal like how their masters are living like kings safely far away. Low-IQs are like that. FURTHERMORE, low-IQs also have provably less pro-social behavior (empathy, ethics and morality) so seeing each other be sacrificed for atrocity propaganda doesn’t harm their society; they’re having a lot of fun going along with the militant hype-train.
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>>62954918
>super tux kart
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>>62954754
>If you're talking about Sparta 2035, it's dogshit based on the demo.
Was to be expected, but honestly it's such a wasted concept
You don't even need to make it grim, the realities of central Africa PMC shenanigans would make "heart of darkness" look like winnie the pooh
Imagine the constant balancing act between foreign interventions, twenty flavours of rebel groups/ jihadis and retards from the junta that hired you in the first place
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>>62951011
No Anon, you misunderstood, they are bombing people with boars, not bombing boars with bombs.
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>>62952445
This is giving BRICS a value it doesn't deserve.
>>62954316
HOLY COCKBREATH
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>>62949008
For what purpose?
The airfield they are flying to is already coming under rebel attack.
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>>62954918
>no HoMM3

I am not buying.
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>>62953661
Wow, what a pile of shit.
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>>62949995
Anon, the IL-76 is a cargo plane. If they were to attempt that, they would need to fly low enough that the shrapnel from the blast may take down the plane itself if they wanted to hit anything with any sort of accuracy and the sudden shift of weight could cause the plane to crash as well.
It just can't be done in a way that justifies the likely loss of the aircraft.
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>>62950986
Hang on, are the Kurds going on the advance too?
And who are the blue guys breaking a hole in the SAA back lines?
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>>62953661
> Pathologic
Also "The Void"(Typгop). People often treat that studio as if they only ever made one game.
> Neuro
What? Never heard about it, there is not even an article on russian wiki about it.

Also, you forgot kings bounty(legend and princess are nice, later ones are lazy cashgrabs on the success of first two, and new "2" is abomination); and "Кopcapы"(sea dogs/pirates of the caribbean /age of pirates in english) - never played it myself, but fans swear those are the best games about pirates ever made.

> I don't know why you'd be trying to shit on Russian games.
Russian "serious"(single player, buy to play, original IPs) gamedev mostly died in late 00s-early 10s because of combo of 2008 financial crisis, cheap and fast internet becoming widespread(legit publishing previously could compete with pirate discs on price, but you cant outcompete a free torrent; and releasing on steam wasnt a standard yet), and smartphones arriving around that time. Studios either closed, switched to free to play stuff/mobile free to play stuff, or to outsourced work for western publishers. And now there is also this government push to produce "patriotic" games with budget funds, which rarely produces anything decent.
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>>62954282
I think posts like >>62950317 make them realise just how retarded being an absolute contrarian edgelord is and then they just become overcome by emotion at the realisation of what they have become.
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Assad be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpcDH9faOQw
>:%s/coconut/bayonet
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>>62952451
Well go on then Anon, fire up the webcam and start streaming the situation for us. With the current advances we should be able to wrap up by the 5 hour mark.
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>>62954905
Kind of.
The main difference is who secedes Muhammad after his death and the Shia elevating their version of saints up to the same level as Allah, which the Sunni see as heresy because no one can even be comparable to Allah.
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>>62949008
US and Russia are not actually at war.
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>>62954905
Catholic/Orthodox is closer in terms of actual magnitudes of difference, but>>62955300 is
correct
and despite the Crusades destroyed the Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantines the Sunni/Shia sectarian violence is much more powerful
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>>62953993
>in the same way as the '3 Berlin in 3 days' vid (picrel)
This was done on one of the largest russia TV channels, it was done in serious manner
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>>62954693
>But how fucking stupid do you have to be to keep starting shit you have literally zero chance of winning when each time you do it the retaliation is worse
They do it to keep the scars fresh, have people hate the jews, have people rally around them, keep their organization in power, etc. Look at how half of the retards in Europe and US literally exploded with caricature anti-semitism over Hamas. Like bruh, I dislake Israel for a whole bunch of reasons, but you're acting like shitskins... while supporting shitskins.
Probably the same would happen if let's say russia went to war with China and got its teeth kicked in: you'd have a ton of retards suddenly be pro-russian and shit, despite them being at fault themselves and them being the aggressor.
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>>62954906
>A turd every single time, because again most of that funding went to other projects and all the studio has to do is present something to a member of said comission (almost always not a person that plays games) to provide evidence that they're doing something and that it checks all the party checkboxes.
It's shit not because of stealing money, it's shit because people making it don't want to make something good. Simple as.

>Hence why Smuta had good animations, dialogues and voice acting, all meant to look good and then not much else. It needs to look good to keep the commission from withdrawing sponsorship.
Nah, because it's easy to get animations, text and voice acting (if done by russians kek) for pennies on the dollar in the modern world. You can easily get good game design and generally "giving a shit" from a store or service.
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>>62954918
Still more interesting than RosTelecom re-branding a chink Android box
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>>62953676
stolen valor
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>>62955224
>Russian "serious"(single player, buy to play, original IPs) gamedev mostly died in late 00s-early 10s because of combo of 2008 financial crisis, cheap and fast internet becoming widespread(legit publishing previously could compete with pirate discs on price, but you cant outcompete a free torrent; and releasing on steam wasnt a standard yet), and smartphones arriving around that time.
That's oversimplifying it. Dutch disease fucked over a ton of internal companies during that time, not just 2008 crisis and shit. Also the growing complexity of game development.

When you develop a game in 2002, the wages are small, the game is more simple, the overall costs are tiny in comparison, so yes you can not only break even, but get some profits even when you give away a chunk of money to the publisher and official releases are sold for cheap to compete with piracy.

By 2012 the wages on the internal market ballooned tremendously, fueled by unironic trickle down economics from oil and gas export, so would the costs of development, even if game complexity stayed the same, but it didn't, people now expect voice acting (where previously text would suffice), they expect motion capture and so on. Don't get me started of complexity overall. By that time good luck developing a game which would even break even on the local market, and yes local market, because retards are very self-centered and still think that russia is something big, strong and important. Most just didn't even think about foreign markets back then. And yes, internet and piracy was also a factor, but one among many.
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>>62955224
People think that soviet industry died in 1991 or during 90s, but the reality is that a ton of in russia actually died during 2000 - 2014, when oil and gas revenue not only propped up the budget, but inflated the local costs of operating things, because the state was actively pumping money into wages not supported by real economy, while also excessively propping up the currency rate (check the 2000 - 2008 currency rate for example, or post 2014 shock one), making shit more expensive for local companies.
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>>62950353
>"Leader" flees the country at the first sign of trouble and expects his soldiers to still fight for him
It's a mystery.
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>>62950317
Nigga the opposite of "not supporting jihadists" isn't "support the enemies of the jihadists". Just let them bash each others heads in and revisit the topic if an actual threat to your own life becomes apparent. Sidenote: if you have to have the worlds best military logistics network to travel 10000 miles to find these " threats", they are probably not a threat that warrants a large scale military response.
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>>62954111
>>62953976
Are we just gonna memory hole that one Russian guy in Syria who called an air strike on his position? It was a reference to that, a Lt. Alexander Prokhorenko, who was allegedly quoted saying:
> They [are] outside, this is the end commander, thank you, tell my family and my country I love them. Tell them I was brave and I fought until I could no longer. Please take care of my family, avenge my death, good bye commander, tell my family I love them!
Granted, that was the official government transcript so there’s no way to prove that was what he actually said. I gotta look up this shit now and see the in game cutscene. Wonder if it was a requirement to have that in game.
Regardless, they weren’t being tongue in cheek, it was a reference to a state propped martyr.
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>>62949350
I think terrorist is pretty cool guy
eh gathers in columns and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>62956578
> that one Russian guy in Syria who called an air strike on his position?
Yes because Russia has been manipulating the truth in such an overt way for so long that there is no way to tell if the man was just screaming to his commander to go fuck himself and cursed his whole country and heritage for sending him there... or he was singing patriotic songs over the radio as he prayed to God and thanked everyone for allowing him to serve his country with his life.

That is the problem with lies, they cheapen human virtues.
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>>62955224
>What? Never heard about it, there is not even an article on russian wiki about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXMtQ1ptQh4
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>>62955001
>The problem with this logic is that there was actually a France for the French to flee back to, where do the Israelis have? Even excluding the Holocaust having practically wiped out Jewry in places like Poland, the Pale of Settlement where I'm gonna guess most European Israelis can trace their lineage back to hasn't existed in a century and it treated them like garbage anyway.
What's doubly retarded is that the Arab States compounded this problem themselves by ramping up repressions against their Mizrahi Jewish populations in the aftermath of Israel being founded, causing most of them to abandon their homes and move to Israel. And Israeli's predominantly of that background certainly can't pack up and go back to "the West". At least not as anything but refugee migrants.

I think the Pro-Palestinian movement's ideological commitment to viewing Israel as a 100% vanilla colonial state is a big part of why they believe that the Israeli's are perpetually just a couple years from packing up and going home if they're harassed or terrorized enough. Hence their bafflement that when Hamas pulls off something like the 10/7 attacks, the Israeli's go ape shit instead of becoming demoralized and buggering off like the Americans gradually did in Vietnam after the Tet Offensive*.

*Seriously. Tankie types have all sorts of obsession with comparing this to Tet.
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>>62952388
It's pretty much a demonic synthesis of the late-period USSR with the Russian Empire without any of the actual content, weight and meaning of it, mostly just the superficial. Basically after the breakdown of the USSR, all the actual brains left so now you get this zombie shit.
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>>62952445
Is anybody really surprised?

>>62955148
It's the new Sino-Soviet block that gives it bullshit value, not the Americans who are just reacting to it and taking it seriously. When you're an actual serious country with world hegemony you can't afford to treat retards who are trying to bullshit their way into subverting you like the retards they are.
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>>62952786
To be fair, thinking you can solve anything in a armed conflict by bombing everything is a particular fallacy and retarded idea that doesn't afflict only Russians.
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>>62954693
What they gain is that they get to go to paradise as warriors and be remembered as martyrs and heroes fighting against the satanic imperialist colonizing West who is responsible for ALL crimes and evils on Earth and are directly influenced by the devil. At least by the Palestinians who don't get mass bombed due to them of course, but the idea is that those will also go to heaven and if enough of them die, Israel will become sick of the violence and "go home" because ot them, they're all just blonde blue eyed Europeans and Americans squatting on stolen land that isn't theirs. Like its fucking Vietnam or something.

Also, if you read for example Arafat's texts, he will several times write paragraphs that amount to that Palestinians will never die because the glorious strong, warrior Palestinian mothers will forever birth more virile strong sons for the never ending war against the vile Jews and their American puppets who are guilty of ALL wrongs on this planet, because unlike the disgusting, promiscuous blonde whores of the imperialist West and Israel, they are followers of Allah who do their duty as Arab women.

Tl;.dr: Whores will birth more.
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>>62955001
>the Democrats are probably going to double down on The Squad's anti-Zionist rhetoric because that actually seems to get young people out to vote
It didn't get the young men or Arabs out to vote except for Trump lmao
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>>62953661
>Men of War
Is a Ukranian game...
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>>62950407
>>62954906
Here's something I see being very little recognized:

1. This big shift towards more aggressive behavior by the Russians and Chinese started around 2008 to 20009.

2. Its around this time that you start seeing both the Russian KGB Mafia government and CCP getting deeper and deeper into movie and video game production very obviously to create propaganda and make their local media fit the ideals and beliefs of the state. You saw something in a lesser extent in places like Brazil and other Latin American countries with socialist party governments, who are all almost universally heavily aligned with the Russians and Chinese like in the past.

Most of what you all said fits a lot of products coming from China since around 2010. Like the Wolf Warrior series for example or Jackie Chan's turn into a CCP shill. Looking back after 15 years its almost obvious it was all quite coordinated and part of a larger project.
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>>62954918
To add to my last post about the Chinese and Latin Americna commies doing similar things, this reminds me hard of Huga Chavez ordering the creation of state-desgined smartphones for the Venezuelan population in the mid 2000s...
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>>62956578
3 of the men of war games were made in Russia. I was just including the name of the series if there were multiple games in it made in Russia.
>>62956578
I didn't know there was a real incident it was based on. It still felt like parody though, and it was hardly the only thing giving me that feeling. I wonder if they had to include certain things to get some money from the government to make the game, so the ticked off the checkboxes in the silliest ways possible. Like they were told "you have to include evil western journalists spreading propaganda about mother Russia" so they included a side objective where you save a journalist from terrorists while your support people on the radio talk about how everything journalists do is a provocation and the journalist openly admits to being there to lie about Russia and Assad.



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