The codename is Project Arminius, and the total value is around 40 billion euro. Of these, 600-650 should be Skyranger close air defence variants. Rheinmetall says they are about to sell more than 1000 Skyranger boxers in total, between Germany and other customers. Also according to Rheinmetall, the Skyranger gun has been proven effective against both drones and rocket/missiles (no distinction between the two terms in German, so unclear what they mean here). https://www.hartpunkt.de/rheinmetall-sieht-bedarf-von-ueber-1-000-flugabwehrsystemen-skyranger-mehr-als-die-haelfte-davon-fuer-die-bundeswehr/
German project names are great.Project "kill that one guy over there" and Project "big explodey thing" really hide their purpose.Never change.
>>64488708Boxer?! I hardly know her!
>>64488708Mein Gott! The Germans are ordering military vehicles as as if they were VW Golfs!
>>64488708>1000 Leopard>5000 Boxer>3000 PatriaThats nice and all but where are the 1000 PZH / RCH and the 1000 HIMARS / GMARS? And also wehre are the 500 Eurofighter?
>>64488863>RCHPart of boxer>HIMARS The poles got over 9000 of them, so we're good.
>>64488708>Of these, 600-650 should be Skyranger close air defence variants.Should be 2000. You can never have enough air defense.
>>64489054Most boxers will probably be equipped with autocannons and basic radars for drone defense. Skyranger is just specialized for it.
>>64488740Tis nothing but a car manufacturer, keine Sorge Martha
Now if only the coalition could stop fighting about conscription and get the people to crew them.
>>64488708German kit always looks so good.
Great kit but everything has to have lots of anti drone stuff imo. At least some cope cages all over these things.
>>64489659Just rotate the deflector shield frequencies.
>>64489513What people? German pensioners or neo germans aka alahu akbars?
>>64488708>Für Deutschland gegen Monke
>>64489709I have a feeling I'll get to kill some russians before this ends. Family tradition and all that.
>>64489779Sei still und such nach japanischen Torpedobooten auf der Doggerbank.
>>64489709ook ook nookcope harder ziggoid
is IFVmaxxing the new vibe?
>>64489725Old alcoholics and churkas "work" as uniform-fillers for Russia, so if old German alcholics and churkas have better gear, guess who wins?
>>64489513What's the point of spending money forcefully training people that a) don't want to be there and won't learn muchb) on top of this don't contribute to the economy during this timec) will be way worse at performing the task than professionals laterd) when the shit hits the fan will be the first to die and waste all of that trainingthis is an honest question
>>64491620Eh, I think that there's an argument for REMF positions being filled by conscripts so that more regulars can be put closer to the line, especially now that modern warfare is requiring more and more technical specialists.
>>64491634for which you don't really need training to be honest or will learn in a week, and if it's something that needs training e.g. repairing vehicles you won't be taught that as a conscriptI seriously think that conscription is mostly a waste of time and mostly for show
>>64491612The Geriatrics Wars will be something.We'll see 70-years old conscripts fighting each other while fully-embedded in power armors providing hospital-grade life-support while serving as mobile hub for optical fiber guided drone swarms spotting targets for coordinated missile spams fired straight out of factories under the umbrella of laser anti-air batteries, all of these uploading high-definition real-time video feed on the NeoNet for the teenage AI supervisors to consume.
>>64491642Historically, it's been used when having a lot of dudes provide a massive advantage and you really don't want to pay the right price to get people to enlist voluntarily to risk their life giving you that avantage.Europe does not lack money to recruit people and, with 450 millions inhabitants, it can afford to lose 3 recruits for each russian conscripts.
>>64491620>a) don't want to be there and won't learn muchA) Nobody, and i do mean fucking nobody (except psychopaths who want to kill people) wants to be in the military. People join because they have no other prospects.>b) on top of this don't contribute to the economy during this timeOh my heckin' god, just think of the economic impact of taking 6 months out of the lives of 18 year olds working mickey D drive-throughs.>c) will be way worse at performing the task than professionals laterProofs?>d) when the shit hits the fan will be the first to die and waste all of that trainingLast time i checked, "professional" military training doesn't create a bullet and shrapnel resistant magic shield around soldiers.
>>64489779dont you have floors to mop and toilets to clean? that will be 50 eurobucks off your wage for phoneposting at work, mohammed.now go empty the deep fryer where they make the pork sausages or we kick you and your 5 imbred kids and cousin wife back to anatolia.
>>64488708>Project ArminiusShoigu! Gerasimov! Give me back my legions!
>>64491733>People join because they have no other prospects.I think that just sounds like the positions aren't well paid and don't come with benefits and is anyway an oversimplification>b) on top of this don't contribute to the economy during this timeI said it matters, you said it doesn't. then come with some numbers otherwise your theory is just as valid as mine.>c) will be way worse at performing the task than professionals laterstats from every war show that conscripts suffer higher casualty rates, you can make a point that it doesn't matter because they are cheaper but saying "proofs" is just bs disingenuous response because it's obvious that i'm correct so fuck off on this point unless you want to address it differently>Last time i checked, "professional" military training doesn't create a bullet and shrapnel resistant magic shield around soldiers.ok now I understand that you are trolling
>>64491612Problem is that those neo germans are prorussian
>>64488720What do you mean? Armin is just a regular german name.In fact a very famous children's education tv personality is called Armin.
>>64491620Works fine here in Finland
>>64491908>Thats rich considering Arminius and his story are close to bannedThe fuck are you talking about you dumb fucking retard? Apart from some fringe tards yelling MUH NADSEES because Himmler once mentioned him, nobody fucking cares. There's still a large statue of him.I think you're some kind of larper, or a retarded underage faggot who is so americanized that xe gets all xits information from /pol/.In any case, kill yourself, you're as worthless as any rapefugee.
All of that shit is going to sit in storage for 50 years and then fuel some gruesome war in Africa. They just want to bailout their failing car industry without triggering UE free market protection laws.
>>64491908You're not a krautYou're not even whiteKill yourself
>>64488740>>64489104>The Germans are ordering military vehicles as as if they were VW Golfs!>Tis nothing but a car manufacturerFunnily enough, there's been some talk in Finland about repurposing the Valmet Automotive production line for making armored vehicles. It built Mercedes-Benz hatchbacks for many years, but the production's being stopped now. Guess there's more demand for armor than status symbol toy cars that lose half their value in a couple of years.The company was about 20% owned by the Chinese company CATL at some point, but their shares were bought by the Finnish state and a local investment company in September this year.
>>64489104Even Renault is entering the defence market.
>>64492017cuteneed knobbier tires though
>>64492040>missing punctuation>hurensohn without capital "H"Nah, you're just some retarded shitskin/larper who can't even write properly.
>>64492026Now it's ready for action.
>>64492052>I said close to banned, the next step is a warning label infront of the statueIt's also not close to, you illiterate fucktard. Where did you even get that information, you subhuman waste of life?Go touch some grass, spending all that time inside your own schizoid retardation only makes things worse.The funny thing, under the Führer, "people" like you would have gone to Dachau right away.
>>64491908based, hurensohn muss hurensohn gennant werden
>>64492052halt einfach dein dummes maul du kremlhörige verräterossifotzeein verräter wie du hat noch weniger übe nationalidentität ubd verteidigung zu melden als ein maltesören
>>64492085>Did you even read my post you faggot?You mean the one where you just claimed random shit without providing any source whatsoever? Or claiming that you pay 52% in taxes, which is very high, even for taxes in Germany? All of which cleary expose you are talking out of your ass?Or another one of your 89IQ posts?Protip, subhuman: If you want to do anything good for the german people, kill yourself. It doesn't matter where you are, but removing you from life will make the world a better place in any case. Anyway, go on with your melty, it's very entertaining :3
>>64488708Feels like an overkill for a shorad platform's chassis. Can't they put it one something simpler and keep these for anything in a bigger need of protection?
>>64492094"Stalkieren" existiert schon länger als habsgelesen (oder du), du kleine dumme Neuschuchtel
>>64491913you can't make that statement since the actual performance of the finnish army on a modern battlefield was not tested, it's what you're doing but there is no data that it's better than having a professional army
>>64492116>Unlike you i do believe that a deutsches volk exists>can't even spell "Deutsches Volk" properlyNo you don't, you're some brownoid subhuman larper
>>64492119>Neuschuchtel ist sogar zu neu, um den Begriff "Neuschuchtel" überhaupt zu kennenI am starting to believe that you are just trolling now, nobody can be THAT new unless they started literally lurking an hour ago.
>>64492119Keep outing yourself, it's very entertaining.
>>64492128Protip: Take a few deep breaths before you start typing, your diarrhea is unreadable to a normal person.But thanks for confirming you were merely talking out of your ass based on your schizo retardation. As I said, kill yourself, it will be better for everyone involved.
>>64491908>>64492052>muh tax dollars, sorry, euros>demoralization propaganda>NOOOOO STOP BUYING WEAPONS, STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP ITkek, seething zigger
>>64492134Das wird in dem Pfosten ganz klar aufgezeigt, Kleinschreibkrebser.
>>64492145Berlin oblast isn't sending their best
>>64492163>I accept your concession...like the proverbial chicken on the chessboard. Although, the chicken is probably smarter than you. Whatever, stay mad :^)
>>64492172Lachzwas, nein
>>64492169There's no content in your posts to engage with, you talk in bad faith and you're also a retard. It's not like your goal is to honestly talk about anything anyway, your primary goal is to run this thread to the ground with /pol/shit. Anyway, Germany's rearming and German weapons are being to kill Russians. That's fucking based and redpilled and what God intended.
>>64489737That woman looks young and old at the same time, wtf?
>>64492188>Look i showed you where my point came from i told you the things that prompted my argument,You have no point and you have no argument, you only have schizo statements upon which you extrapolate some hallucination like a bad AI. You're a literal NPC, you are probably not even sentient. I don't need to engage with you in any way beyond calling you a retard, which is precisely what you are. And your orthography is still subhuman. God it would be so great if we could just throw out everyone who can't speak or write proper German.
Nice Wunderwaffle, now we just need to man them with blm trannies and the glorious west shall be victorious against le evil conservative Russians
>>64492197Wenn du das nicht aus den den Begriff enthaltenden Pfosten extrapolieren kannst, zeigt das nur, dass du dumm wie Scheiße bist und vermutlich genau so riechst. Warte, vielleicht verstehst du es besser, wenn ich das so formuliere:OB DU BEHINDERT BIST HAB ICH GEFRAGT
>>64492145i can't understand german but judging by the reddit image attached i assume it's a zigger seething.maybe it's that mentally ill mongol guy who lives in germany?
>>64492207why are you talking to yourself? do you not have any friends to shill with?
>>64492206Ach Bernd, warum so mett
>>64492210Could be, he writes in the german equivalent to ebonics.
Imagine not knowing "Neuschuchtel" and thinking ANYTHING you have to say holds any weight whatsoever.
>>64492204Who is this 'you'? Do you realize that you're talking to multiple anons, you subhuman retard?Anyway, German weaponry kills Russians every day and that means the world is a little bit better place every day. Deal with it, you rapebaby faggot.>>64492210Yeah, it could be Dennis.
>>64492218This image is so sad
>>64492218That's cool, but what do you think about German weapons being field tested against human-like creatures (homo sovieticus)?
>>64492240>Russians are losing to these peoplelmaoo
>>64492244>he thinks Russians have progressed away from being homo sovieticus slaveapeskekthey're good test dummies for weapons, though
>>64492240What an ironic post full of projection. They're not sending their best.You atill haven't explained why you object to field testing German weapons on Russians. That's natural order of the world, and you object to it. Is it some ancestral tie from WW2, are you a Russian yourself, or some Balkanoid immigrant in Germany?
>>64492272Because you're a zogbot faggot. It should be tested on you first and foremost.
>>64489513>get the people to crew them.This is why Germany is still not taking things seriouslyIf they were serious, they would buy half the number of Boxers they announced here, and spend the rest of that money on hiring people at competitive wage rates to crew them
>>64492271personally, I am thoroughly remoralized by homo sovieticus slaveapes, or "Russians" as you like to call them, dying to EU weaponryit's also funny how you post these commie russkies explaining how russkie propaganda works, yet lack the intelligence to realize that it applies much more to you than anyone ITT who likes to see German steel make mulch of muscovites
>>64492279There's nothing zogbot about German weapons killing Russians. Lebensraum is a thoroughly anti-Russian concept, you retard.
>>64492284>schizo babbling >imagining things>building strawmen in his head and getting mad at themKek, you hopeless faggot.
>>64488708gg
>>64492297>>64492284>sure it wasnt nice of them to invade ukraine but why do i have to fund their military now?because a world without russians is a good world, and it's good to test weapons on live targets>Why didnt my govt fund iranian or qatari air defence when they were unlawfully attacked?they're ragheads and far away>Why isnt my govt intervening in the sudan genocide?they're niggers and far away>Why didnt my govt fund iraq and afghanistan when they were unlawfully attacked??they're ragheads and far away>Why do we sanction russia for its prez being wanted by the ICC but we still fund and supply israel whose prez is likewise wanted by the ICC?because ziggers are a bigger, more pressing problem right now
>>64492304>>64492311>>64492307Weapons?
>>64492321So why are you seething so hard now that German weapons are used by Ukrainians to kill Russians? What's your gripe? It sure seems like that you should think that it's based.
>>64492338>Afghanistan is far away too and we intervened for 20 yearskilling ragheads with modern standoff weapons in the sandbox was based, just like killing ziggers is based
>>64492350They released the hostages and pissrael is still bombing and raping them
>>64492350boohoo small nigger died in a war between literal moloch and group of retards that like to kick the hornet nests into local nursery. I dont care. I always support the side with better tech because it looks cooler, but not the jews.
>>64492372>So the ICC and international law are a joke and>>its ok when we do it, go blue teamcorrect, that's the end result of muh multipolarity which you /pol/estinians love: might makes right and currently muh russian bear is getting ground down by EU and US weapons, cope about itI reiterate my position: I couldn't be happier that my tax payer euros are being used to slaughter random Russians every day, and I wish more of tax payer euros were used to mulch ziggers into pulp
>>64492372I never knew girls can be this cool. Maybe I should talk to some.
>>64492395>all this fake faggot moralizingyou keep whining about demoralized zogbots but you're a perfect example of onealso you're very schizotypal in writing style.did you know normal people don't obsessively repeat the exact same phrases in every single post like you do?
>>64492404You have a lot of pics saved of tranny. What's with the obsession? Do you have a crush on him?
>>64492404Sorry I dont date pictures with /chug/ cum on it.
>>64492422leftypol is over there saar>>>/pol/
>>64492311>>64492404 the brown containment board is leaking
>>64492412yeah I am a European jewish globalist demon who loves to pay many euros for zigger deaths, how did you know?
>>64492422>instantly drops the nootrooler masklol dumbass zigger.>still like greasy real womenHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHArussia as a country-wide prison culture, probably about 20% of russian males are addicted to anal rape as either giver or recipient, and those that hate it are forced to do it anyway and willingly go along with it instead of shooting those anally raping them.real fuckin' basedtrad saviour of the west there lmao.
>>64492427>zogbotyou are one, since you fervently shill for gulaghomo and love degenerate shitholes.you're a jobless loser who blames his host country for his own failures and fell into a schizo pit, everything you do from here on out in your life is out of spite, which is why it brings me great joy to know that many of your neetbux are forcibly going to ukraine against your will.>aha, le zogbot shows the true colors!no, you're just so unlikeable everyone wishes the worst for you period, don't go to a weapons board to whine about stupid shit next time.
germany buys/chug/ criesits that simple
>zogbotLmao
>>64492463yep, also picrel
>>64492456None of this gaslighting will help you, zogbot
>>64492469Nor him at the wailing wall with his mastersRemember, every accusation is a confession from these retards
>all of this desperate seething by cum/chug/gers, browns and schizoids ITTtop lel
>>64492536You're talking to a literal faggot. This is what they think about all day.
>>64492538yet you hate it when subhuman russians die to german weapons, curious!
>>64492543Yeah, we already explained why. Repeating yourself is autistic.
>>64492547you actually haven't
>>64492106How about 100 km wide gaps in the frontlines because professional army in Finland would be few tens of thousands strong. You are so fucking stupid that I lose brain cells just by posting in the same thread as you.
This thread sure got nuked
>>64492758At least he didnt start talking about nuclear explosions
>>64492803ITS A SIMULATION ITS ALL A SIMULATION DONT POKE ME WITH that. neeeeeedle...
>>64492017Fuck yea, I'm here for the cursed, terminally french bullshit they are going to design.
>>64491667>fully-embedded in power armors providing hospital-grade life-supportEven in death I still serve
>>64491902British scientists successfully disrupted a WW2 German radar project called ODIN. The name gave clues on how it works.Haha.
>>64488720For context Arminius is the name of a german officer in the roman army that united the german tribes against the romans and stopped their advances into german territory.He is generally regarded as the founder of the germans as a united population.
>>64496158>He is generally regarded as the founder of the germans as a united population.Was, maybe, back in the 19th century.
>>64496158>He is generally regarded as the founder of the germans as a united population.lol no
>>64492017reminds me of this van that the dutch marines use
>>64491881they won't be after the first couple of apartment blocks are hit
>>64491881>>64496460I have no doubt russian propaganda will reach the shitskins in germany and turn them against us. They're good at that and we're bad at it.
>>64496474>and turn them against usumso besser. a good opportunity to cleanse them, together with all the pro-Russian Marxists
>>64492201What the fuck are you talking about zigger?>>64492279>Because you're a zogbot faggot.Your butthurt is leaking..
>>64492547Lame attempt at a pivot..They really aren't sending their best..
>>64496395AN IVECO DAILY?!?
>>64497858yessir