Px4 edition No challenge this month Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious: >>64486740
>>64495761It's was No ND November where we all try really hard to go a whole month without a negligent discharge. I came close this morning but I lucked out, safety was on, so I'm still in the running!
all I want is a modern production stainless steel 25 acp
>>64495761>post your rarest Glock
>>64495868I want a 25 super. Think how many pews you could fit in a pew pew!
>>64495761Is this a long barrel handgun worth buying ? 1000 eurobucks in my cuntry. The aesthetic and spirit of the 6 inchers seems appealing.
Is 550 USD a decent price for a stainless FEG hi-power clone? Wanting to get a 9mm as I currently have a surp 1911 for.45. First time in years I’ve had dispoable income for guns and stuff so prices are still much higher than I remember in the pre-covid days. As fpr why I don’t get a modern 9mm pistol, eh I have a thing about old/historic guns.
>>64496704Is it an actual hi power or the sw copy? Too low for a hipower clone. If it's slide mounted safety it's the sw clone that looks like a hipower.
>>64495761I miss my PX4. I really wanted one in .45 but I could not for the fucking life of me find one.
>>64496756Looks to be an actual clone between the front lobe on the slide lock, and frame mounted safety like the 1911, just fore of the beaver tail. Also the recessed oval on the right side of frame showing an internal thingie that’s supposed to be like a hi-power.
aaaand the nip mongrel whore spam continues.
>>64496704FEG didn't make a stainless Hi Power. Someone either polished all the bluing off and/or had it refinished. I wouldn't buy it. Owned two FEG PJKs in the past. Brittle small parts, cast frames, shit build quality, unreliable. $550 is way too much.
>>64496782dude weed lmao
>>64496704I have an FEG pp copy and I fucking love mine. Grandpa gave it to me when I was 15. Only shot the FEG hi power once or twice, but it was much nicer than some of the other clones I had shot.
>>64496784Hard chromed or something then. Collectability aint much for me. My 1911 is WW2 dated ithaca model that some bubba nickel plated. I dig it all the same though. >>64496801I look forward to trying it out then! I was initialy planning for a walther ppk in stainless/nickel for daily/dress carry but I’ve heard nothing but complaints about how the.380 feels out of it.
I just ordered a MSH+magwell for my SA Operator.I have been using Wilson Combat 7rnd mags with the low profile pad.my concern is that they may be more difficult to fully insert with the magwell and I want to change to something a little longer.should i:>A.) swap to 7rd with standard butt plateOR.B.) go for 8rnd with no or low profile butt platedoes anybody have a pic of how far 8rnd mags stick out of a full size 1911
>>64496912I don't have a magwell on my 1911, but I like Mec-gar's 7 round Officer mags a lot. They have a nice buttplate on them and can be seated without any extra force, unlike my flush fit 7 rd factory mags. They're like $20 from the right place so worth a shot.
>>64495761Do you have a stack of Japanese gravure magazines or get new ones? Also, who is that?
>>644969128 rnds Sticks out about half a cm on my milsurp 1911. I will say it doesn’t lock open on the last round like the 7rnd mag does.
>>64496871>walther ppk in stainless/nickel for daily/dress carry but I’ve heard nothing but complaints about how the.380 feels out of itDrastically over reported. The ppk(/s) is fine, it can get uncomfortable after a few boxes of ammo. It’s a small gun, of course you get more felt recoil. People can be little Goldilocks bitches.
can anyone explain the reemergence of the M9A1? i've been seeing them a lot lately.
>>64497138Think Beretta is re-releasing it.https://www.beretta.com/en-us/product/m9a1-FA0058?srsltid=AfmBOopvJ1FODr1-9fPMEA8W_xl490wU6SZysx_mc7U74m0uj04epPsG
>>64497143nice! for a railed beretta the price seems very reasonable. i hope they don't re-release it as a piece of shit.
>>64497127really?what brand mags?
>>64497164I think the re-release was to simplify production with the LTT Elite, instead of an anodized finish on the frame and bruiton on the slide it’s black Cerakote all the way around. I would suggest trying to find a LTT Elite base mode (non Langdonized) since it has a better slide, grips and sights.
>>64496912
>>64497189With a Wilson Combat Magwell and 8 rounder
>>64497185
>>64496987I buy photo books. Magazines are printed too glossy to take photos of with my iPhone https://x.com/sinonome_umi?s=21&t=uAG8cPK1tCKKj57X0913qQ
>>64496912Just buy some Wilson, CMC, or Checkmate 8 round mags
>>64495868Well since phoenix arms went out of business you're limited to the psa-25. But it's a better idea to pick up an old Bauer or psp-25 and save 7-800 bucks.
>two failures to feed with the P320 on the left Officer probably kept thumbing the slide catch. That’s why you don’t want it too large>multiple volleys of fire before the perpetrator was neutralisedPoor marksmanship or 9x19 insufficiency? You be the judge! >>64496782Think I didn’t notice your betrayal? You and I are through professionally
>>64495761>>64497226who is this?
>>64497338He posted a link to her twitter profile.
>>64497209>>64497185this actually helps a lot, thank you.
>>64497307>copAlmost certainly marksmanship. The FBI missed 99% of their shots in that Miami Dade incident where they got shreked, and then decided the issue was the caliber. It’s even worse now, with many cops being women and/or brown.
.380 and 9mm have functionally the same ballistics. Hole poking.9mm just gets your holes through things like auto glass and thin barriers a bit better which is why it’s better for law enforcement.You know this true brother. There has never been any evidence to contradict this but plenty of evidence to show they’re about the same.
>a bit betterlol lmfao
To that one guy that was begging to get someone to buy a Hogue grip for an LCP Max, I went ahead and got one. It was a bear to put on the gun, but I got it and frankly, it feels like a damn Beretta Tomcat now. Extra thick! I'm sure it would help with recoil, but I'm probably going to send it back to Amazon and just use Talon Grip tape.
>>64497606From the back.
>>64497612From the front. Kitty says it's too thick too.
>>64497624Compared to my LCP2 without a sleeve.
>>64497641Compared to 3032 Tomcat.
>>64497647And 21a Bobcat
>>64497226I find funny how the average nip girl looks like the average "white" girl over here.T. Peruvian
>>64497651And J frame with Hogue Bantam grip. (By far my favorite J frame grip.)
Also, now that I have my old LCP2 out, I have noticed that the trigger feels better than the LCP Max trigger. It has less stacking, but oddly enough, this Hogue grip kinda improves the way the trigger feels. I guess the added thickness puts my trigger finger in a more advantageous position. idk maybe im just imagining it. . .
>>644973079mm is truly a weak shitty baby caliber. Compare this to the pawn shop 1911 boomer dropping the gunmen on their ass with one shot.40 should be minimum with JHP .45acp being the main police issue
>>64497819nogunz
>>644978239mm simply isn't enough.
>>64497826enough for what?
>>64497834for the police to end threats in a safe and timely manner
>>64495761Since there's so many beretta simps here:Does anyone know where I can buy a front target sight for a 92? I can get a rear from beretta or kensight, but idk who makes a good front. This is for bullseye btw.
>>64497826.45 ACP was invented to kill starving 4'3 manlet muslim brown people. 9mm was invented to kill 6'3 Croat Catholics. If you are okay with inferior performance since you're only going to be shooting brown manlet rock worshippers, choose .45 ACP. If you have to take on an apex predator, you need 9mm.
>>64497840>le heckin history knowledgecope and embarrassing band kid tier thought process
>>64497844oh, so you're an illiterate pavement primate. Yeah, .45 ACP is the top choice for you Tyquanderous.
>>64497846everyone ITT knows this nigga was the one who thought playing the soviet anthem or whatever was the pinnacle of humor
>>64497848I prefer this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ECySsQthE
>>64497840>scrawny flips were so durable they needed o invent .45wow
>>64497853I mean yeah, the round that preceded it was a black powder .38 with the muzzle energy of .22lr and a famously poorly designed and produced gun that breaks constantly.
went to the range , tried out a few Walther PDP Glock 47Canik S&W MP 2.0 I wanted to try an FN 509 but the only range that offers one is a state away. winners were the S&W and Glock , any opinions?
>>64497837Depends on what Beretta 92 you have, does it have a front dovetailed sight? If so Wilson Combat has a selection of sights, make sure to buy the front one.If you have a 92FS then a target sight like a LPA sight that gets roll pinned onto the existing sight would work. Like your picture but that’s a brigadier with a dovetail.
>>64497410I prefer Wilson ETM magazines since you can select between a low profile steel baseplate or a large flared polymer one that’s great for grabbing out of a mag pouch
>>64497876only things that matter with hand guns is that they work and you like it
>/hg/ doesn’t take the 380 is just as good 9mm bait>falls for 9mm is not enough bait insteadMake it make sense.yjt8k
>>64497924380 is good enough
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>>64497924>Make it make sensethis phrase absolutely infuriates me lmao
>>64497433That's probably why they replaced the 25-yard bull's eye qualifier with a silhouette at 15>>64497672>Gen5 slide>Gen3 frameInteresting>>64497924The 9x19 memes are hilarious. There's dozens of videos where it looks like officers exploiting stun lock mechanics with default pistols against perpetrators that have moderate HP, kek
Local shop has a Vp9 for sale>4 mags>Vortex Venom red dot>Apparently previous owner barely used it>$1100 Would be my first striker fired handgun. Good deal?
>>64497624>>64497641Not that anon but thanks, I was actually curious about this too
>>644980441100 for a VP9 with a budget red dot is a fucking ridiculous price
>>64498044no that's an awful deal and I think you could buy all of that new, cheaper.
>>64498044No. A new VP9 starts around $750, the Venom is $200, mags are $30 - $50 a piece. $1100 for the same, but used? Terrible deal.
Today I just finished fitting my WC Hammer and mag release. I think I'm finished with this project 1911! Smooth as butter slide and the trigger at 2.5 lbs. EGW sear, sear spring, and disconnector. Wilson Combat hammer, extended mag release, grip safety, and thumb safety. What do you all think?Also are those 1911 magwells a meme or worth it? I kinda wanna bottom out the lower part with a stainless magwell...
>>64498079Woops forgot the image
>>64498082Nice, who made that slide release? passes all safety checks?
>>64497881>make sure to buy the front one.the right one* as Brigadier and Vertex/M9A3/92X have different dovetails
>>64498090Yep! No wobbling anywhere. Thumb safety is fucking CHUNKY since I made sure to only grind off as little as possible while it can still work, Grip safety is smooth but firm and the trigger doesn't go off unless everything is actuated. I was honestly surprised at how little I had to do to fit the hammer, just needed to dremel the hole where the big pin goes in to let it go in a smidge more smoothly. Ah, the mag catch was some generic one I bought off of ebay for like $20. Figured it wasn't something that needed to be expensive or handfit.
>>64498124I meant slide stop, which does need to be competently made since MIM defects lead to them snapping due to voids. The barrel link rotates on the slide stop so the brunt of the recoil does get imparted onto the slide stop.
I'm at a loss here, are there any single shot/manually operated 22LR pistols that aren't the Cricket except pistol? Or better yet, able to mod in a slide lock function to a Browning Buckmark a-la the Hushpuppy?
>>64498140just put your thumb behind the slide retard
>Trash for trash
>>64498128>I meant slide stopOh pff I got confused. Yeah the slide stop is what I meant. Good point though, I'll look into finding a non-MIM one at some point. Right now though, I'm satisfied with its looks and it should function fine for a few thousand rounds.
>>64498181yeah I was asking since I've been looking to a checkered slide stop like that and all I could find were mystery meat ebay ones lol
>>64498181Also slide stops DO matter but most of them seem to be close enough to spec. The barrel link rotates on the slide stop which does effect lock up
Bought a new piece. I thought about getting the new production one without the hillary hole but they made it uglier than the older ones. Fucking smith man.
>>64498188Oof yeah I can't find any either outside of ebay. Well, this klonimus one from there seems to work out well enough so I'll see if there's any extreme wear as I take it out for the next year.
>>64498140zip 22 is, functionally, a single shot gun
>>64497683>>64497612>>64497624>>64497624>>64497641>>64497647>>64497651>>64497666>>64497683>begging Uh, okay. Thanks? For real though, thank you. The reason I like the current configuration is that the grip on the lcp2 is exactly the thickness of the OEM holster. The reason I wanted to know is that as you can see, it's time to replace the grip and holster. That's wear of ≈5 years of frequent carry. If I was going to buy a max or bodyguard 2.0 then I'd just clean up the gun and leave it in the safe, but between your extremely thorough and helpful research and witnessing 3 light primer strikes on another anon's bg2 (and I shot it like shit) I think I'm going to just order a new OEM holster and grip from Ruger. I'm thinking of aqua instead of purple this time. I really appreciate it!
If I order pic related, I'll quality for free shipping. The security 9 was my first gun. My other holster for it has a split in the kydex. I've been carrying other shit, but I might want the option if I can't use the cargo pants. Anyone got experience with these?
Are m9a4s just sold out every where?
Shot this for the first time in a yearDefinitely more confident nowLift more = better groups
>>64498289Seven yards?
>>64495761I love Brescian pistols, anyone else a fan? Pic 22-Bore Flintlock Break-Action Breech-Loading Magazine-Primed Holster PistolBy Andrew Dolep, Londini, Circa 1690
>>64498365faggot
>>64498367Fuck you
>>64495761I need the fucking sauce op, WHO is that
>>64498380kek>>64498386OP posted the twitter sauce
>>64496871>I’ve heard nothing but complaints about how the.380 feels out of it.It's not too bad, it's just noticeably more stout than the .32 PPK. I carried and shot my .380 for years and years before I got my hands on a .32. Get a PPK in your life.
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>>64498274Clearing inventory for the new year
>>64497853They were on drugs.
>>64498152Red pill me on these things.
>>644984832A for all
>>64498243It'll probably be fine but kydex is the standard for a reason especially with striker fired pistols.>>64498274They've had this happen before with other models and they come back in stock. I'm sure those will be back.>>644985162A only for whites who haven't committed a felony against another white person.
https://x.com/WeaponOutfitter/status/1987297888159076587?s=20Glock V in the wild
>>64498516Absolutely not.
>>64498483Cheap, pretty, shitload to choose from in every caliber and finish because they were made by 12+ companies, they trace their lineage back to the first Walther handgun so if you don't want friends you can tell people it's basically a Walther, all the small caliber ones (380 and below) are fun to shoot and aren't likely to explode in your hand or shit the bed after a few dozen rounds, parts cost pennies. They're all trash guns, but the larger caliber ones are extra-trash, and the ones that say "Lorcin", "Davis", or "Sundance" on them are extra-extra-trash. Find a Jimenez, Jennings, or Bryco in 32 or 380 in a nickel finish and you're gonna love it, they're fun, they're comfy, it's a great way to spend $50, just never make the mistake of trusting it. The 25s and 22s are more problematic, there are good options among the bunch but you have to know what you're looking at to avoid the unusable ones, and the larger caliber stuff is just asking for trouble. Hi-Points work exactly the same as these, they're based on the old ring-of-fire shit guns, but they have WAY more slide weight and steel reinforcements in the slide specifically so the slides don't tear apart into your face like the old Lorcin L9 and Jimenez JA9 do.
I'm getting tired of all my carry guns being cheap with shit triggers. I don't want to swap out triggers on a carry gun, got to be stock. I'll accept g26 or g19 size. Don't want a 1911, and I don't want it too thick so don't shill the Beretta storm or 92 series. I don't really care about a red dot but I either want no cut and night sights or a direct mount with co witness. I hate how everything comes with a plate system now but the dots ride high. I don't mind a dot but on a carry gun I really don't need it and would prefer just a smooth slide. The most important thing is a fucking good trigger out of the box. What are my options?
>>64498551glock 26 or glock 19
>>64498534>still compatible with switches>still compatible with FRTsWell that was one fat nothingburger,
>>64498551just buy a ppq retard
>>64498380thought you were the other guy, sorry
>>64498560They're discontinued. All I'm seeing is 22s and steel competition guns. Also, fuck you. >>64498557I said good stock trigger.
>>64498550>Jimenez, Jennings, or Bryco in 32I am not seeing any of n these guns in .32. That seems like the sweet spot for something like this.
>>64498607>They're discontinued.buy a used one faggotalso just get a pdp, it uses plates but mine cowitnesses an ACRO with stock height sights
What upgrades/improvements would /hg/ do to a budget 2011? It's more-so gift ideas too. Besides 1000rds of 9mm (that's already on the list)
>>64498625which budget 2011? it matters
>>64498529>Kydex is the standard for a reason. You're right but it's probably because my first holster was from a stupid company I found online and didn't know any better. I haven't had this problem with my other kydex holsters. You can see the crack the pen is pointing to.Am I right in assuming this is just shitty kydex? Or is it because the leather flexes? I've never had an actual leather holster.If I could just buy the OEM Ruger lcp pocket holster off Amazon I wouldn't need the free shipping anyway. Regardless, replacing this hasn't been a priority since I carry the lcp2 95% of the time as it's light and invisible, and I've got a couple other options with holsters that aren't broke. The only reason I dug this out of the safe is that it has a safety so when I'm putting in a cargo pocket or drawer it's not completely irresponsible. I don't mind doing it, but the safety isn't that positive and it could pop off so it's not ideal. I'd sell it but who would buy it? It's worth more to me than the money I'd get for it. I shoulda bought the Beretta for my first gun, but I didn't want to spend the money on something I wasn't sure of.
>>64498529>>64498543Faggots. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Go suck Russian dick.
>>64498607Does the LEM trigger on an HK count as stock?
>>64498659>Am I right in assuming this is just shitty kydex? Or is it because the leather flexes? I've never had an actual leather holster.seems very thin to make up for the thickness of the leather like extremely thin
>>64498551> I don't want it too thick so don't shill the Beretta storm or 92 series.
>>64498551>>64498560If anything a PPQ feels thicker than a PX4 cause it has some curves on the side of the grips. Visually they look about the same as well, but im to lazy to bust out the calipers>t. has both
>>64498665go be black somewhere else
>>64498615You'll struggle to find these for sale online because they're only worth as much as shipping+transfer anyway. I only see 9 total in the "Completed" search on Gunbroker currently. If you want to find one, take a walk to the pawn shop. I'd be looking for a Bryco 38, they made it in both 32 and 380. Jennings is overlapped with Bryco and you don't need to think of them separately, depending on the year it may say one, the other, or both. Jimenez JA-32s are probably the best made ones of the bunch but that's not saying much, I'd take a shiny Bryco over a less shiny Jimenez.Lorcin L32s might be the most common ones, but everything Lorcin is truly the bottom of the barrel for quality. I've seen many Lorcin slides shear in half, I've seen grips shatter in peoples hands (the grips are functional on these, like a Hi-Point you cannot use the gun without both grips installed), I've also seen them break striker retainers and kick them out into someones face, don't fuck with Lorcin.
>>64498365where did you get the steel accessories and how hard are they to replace the original parts with?
>>64498616>UsedSorry, but I'm not seeing any around here, and I'm very suspicious of a good model gun used online. If it's that good, he'd either keep it or sell it locally and save shipping. >arco stock sights Is that the factory plate? It looks really thin. Plastic 3 dot sights? I'd prefer no dot (less bulk) and something with factory night sights. This is why I'm asking. I'd take a good trigger with good stock irons and ignore the plate. I'm sure that thing kicks ass with its huge enclosed emitter, but it's too big and one extra thing to deal with. If I wedge the grip into my body, now that thing is poking out. You really conceal that thing every day?
>>64498631I just recently bought a MAC 9 Comp used after shooting one. It's pretty fun and another aspect of fun that I get out of it is a get to mentally hurt Staccato owners by saying my Turkkatto is "just as good"
>>64498722A new grip modulehttps://www.icarusprecision.com/online-store/Icarus-Double-Stack-1911-Grip-w-Mainspring-Housing-p706271979The Icarus one can be bought with and without the Taran Tactical branding, here's without. It's an attractive grip module and not super expensive.
>>64498731fucking retarded website won't let you link pages
>>64498711>Is that the factory plate?There was no factory plate when I bought it. Walther didn't make one for the acro. It's CHPWS >Plastic 3 dot sights?yeah>factory night sights. Night sights are the most useless thing. I have no idea how they are still popular. I swear they only sell because nobody who buys them has ever gone outside at night even once in their entire life. News flash, if you can see tritium you cannot fucking see your target. Just get normal sights and save your money.>You really conceal that thing every day?No of course not. I edc a vp9sk.
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Can't wait for my USP to arrive, I'm so fucking excited.
>>64498672Sort of. I actually have access to an HK p30, but it's technically not mine and it's the dasa decocker configuration. I should call around and see if I can rent one with the lem trigger. I wouldn't want to convert an existing model anyway so I'd have to buy a new one.To be honest, the p30 dasa trigger feels goofy af, which is why I haven't been in a hurry to try the lem. >>64498679I'm guessing the pdp is thinner? The "f" model looks nice from a carry perspective but I got to worry if my hand are too big. James tfbtv was shilling it and he's normal size.
>>64498746>pdp-f>I got to worry if my hand are too bigthey're not
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>>64498742Hope you didn't select UPS for the courier
>>64498731>>64498757Thanks Anon, that does look pretty slick.Makes me wonder if anyone makes a grip module that can take 1911 panels? It'd be funny to see a 2011 with sweetheart grips
>>64498770Nobody has yet. Atlas has system for grip panels for their custom guns but those start at like 5k and they are planning to release those grips for sale but haven't. It's a tiny grip panel but it does allow for people to customize texture easily.They make grip wraps for Airsoft 2011s that is basically vinyl cut to grip tape templates. I was thinking of doing it but couldn't find any in a respectable 2D woman.
Installed my first optic today... bubble level, Loctite and so on :3 Feels good.jpgHave a nice weekend frens, gn
>>64498790Wrong thread, buddy.
>>64498795Nah, hg is home
>>64498659>Is it because the leather flexes?Yes, in the case of the holster you posted. There are other leather & plastic designs that don't try to aggressively bend the plastic around the gun. Vedder holsters makes one.I wish holster manufacturers would use kydex to make holsters with more organic curves that soften out the gun's contact patch against the wearer. There's no reason they can't, it's just harder to design.
>>64495761Glad to see the trend I started is still going.
>>64498790That looks like a mid line gas system. Is that 20” barrel?
>>64498812>Chinesium optic and lightUnfortunately, you're correct
>>64495761I need to bite it.
>>64498823Streamlight's pistol lights are US made and holosun lights are proven good.
>>64498734>if you can see tritium you cannot fucking see your targetI'm old and with my contacts in my close up vision sucks. I've tested this in different lighting conditions and new tritium sights helps a lot if I'm in low light and the target is illuminated. I just tested it in my basement and I can still just barely see the tritium on an old gun, but it's old decayed. Age makes a big difference. I want 3 glowing dots because I can still see far with corrective lenses, but black on black sights just run together close up if I'm not lit well. >>64498747If James can use it than it's probably fine. I just had a bad experience with a thin grip double stack 380 twisting in my hand as I was trying to fire it. but it's probably not an issue here. Does it have the obligatory multiple grip panels?
>>64498832optics*
>>64498832>>64498839Chinese hardware assembled stateside is still Chinese>holosun lights are proven goodWhat's your source, the meat grinder in Ukraine?
>>64498833At that point just use a flashlight
>>64498746The PDP-F is still honestly too big for CCW imo. Just get a micro compact.
>>64498814Its a 16" and sometimes webshops call it 16.75 IDK. Its still stock af, at least i can see next week if the precision is good and than directly handloading some budget FMJs and sweet BTHPs
>>64498843ya mudda
>>64498853I know here in America, when they PnW a muzzle device they’ll count it towards the barrel length. Maybe it’s a true 16” barrel. Are you planning on adding a suppressor? I heard the laws on them are more lax in Europe. If so, you might want to get a flow through suppressor.
>>64498797we all start at /hg/
Supposedly, the "V" models will have blocks in the slide and frame so that the "crucible trigger bar" is not "easily convertible"
>>64497881The only target front sight from Wilson is too short for an actual target rear sight btw. I have both an M9 slide and a brigadier, so either from LPA would work. Thanks.
>>64498843Surefire lights use asian electronics also. Believe the bodies for streamlight's pistol lights are machined in the US also, like surefire. There's no such thing as a mass production 100% US made light.
>>64498790>folding front sightDo you even have a quick detach mount for the optic?
>>64498878https://www.importyeti.com/company/surefireAlso if you call bullshit on the surefire China thing. Check how much they import from China.
>>64498804I'll hold off on it then. I've got other options. What's annoying is that Ruger is the only place to get the OEM lcp2 holster. I know it works. I tried a sticky holster for a different gun and it doesn't work for cargo pockets because there's not enough pressure to grab the holster and it comes out with the gun. It works on slant pockets, but I can't reach those when I'm driving. I've never had the OEM Ruger holster come out with the gun. This is why I don't want to try anything else and why I have the fucking security 9 with the safety on in my pocket now. The leather just looks more comfortable if I want to carry iwb. I got kydex for a few other guns, but they aren't the most comfortable, and unless I'm appendix carrying the seat belt gets in the way.
>>64498696Beretta, Wilson Combat and LTT all sell inox parts. You can also get inox parts kits from guns that were disassembled and sold. Most are pretty simple. For the trigger return spring you want a hook type tool to make things easier.>>64498872Guess using a dremel is considered hard. Looks like light work.
>>64498890I hadn't thought of it that way before. Guess they're just like Aimpoint which also imports electronics from China
>>64498872>>64498558
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>>64498905There's also blocks machined into the slide so it's going to cost you multiple cutter wheels
Just pocket carried a S&W 637 for the first time and it was probably the comfiest carry experience I've ever had, I kind of want to do it every day
>>64498847Is there one with a not shit trigger? >>64498845That's a fair point and I just put the light from the other gun on that one and it does make it easier. If I want to be an asshole I can say1. Then I got to use a light.2. Then I'm giving away my position. I know, I know. Don't be cheap. Buy another light, buy a holster that fits it. No, you're not going to be using your cc to ambush from the shadows Mr. Mallninja. I get it.>>64498734>Vp9skHow's the stock trigger compared to the pdp? How you running it?
>>64498981But how does it shoot
>>64498928The slide tabs are definitely more annoying since they're metal but I don't think they should be much issue either. Alternatively you can just buy an aftermarket slide.
>>64498986>micro-compact>Is there one with a not shit trigger?You have to compromise on what you mean by "not shit", as in "not shit for a micro-compact". If you want it actually be not shit, then you have to compromise on what you mean by "micro-compact", as in "it may be longer, taller, wider, and heavier than a P365, but it's still a micro-compact."
>>64499004Like shit lol but training should make it manageableI think comfort is arguably the most important thing in a EDC handgun because you're less likely to leave it behindI carried it in gym shorts earlier and it felt great, never been able to do that with any of my micro-compact 9mm's
>>64498986>How's the stock trigger compared to the pdp?Vastly inferior. EVERY striker fired pistol is.>How you running it?I put the gun in a holster and that's it.
>>64498227>begging>Uh, okay. Thanks?Not meant to be an insult, just a like teasing.
>>64498987I went through this last year and went with the Olight pd Valkyrie turbo. Still works after a year but I'm not using it much, just test it now and again. It's fucking bright.I can't speak from experience, but obsessive research led me to conclude that at that time a lot of surefire and streamlight were obsolete. They were still charging state of the art prices for things that were dim as fuck compared to the latest chinisium. You can make the argument about durability, but while that may have been true at one time I'm not certain it is anymore. Also the bugmen are free to innovate while the military suppliers have to go through a process to get upgrades approved. It's my guy feeling American made optics are still better but I've had a holochink take a shit on me so I'm biased. I don't have enough experience to have confidence in that opinion. Maybe things are different now dunno.
>>64499047>olightthe only flashlight with a killcount, truly the optimal choice.
Talk me out of it
>>64499060how heavy is it?
>>64499060JUST DO IT
>>64498872The cow gun in the background! I NEED IT!
>>64499092>utter triggercursed
If ruger cucks out like glock I'm going to get a vp9a1k
>>64499060It's a based gun, do it.
>>64499060Wrong cartridge.
>>64498981Got my 638 in my pocket now. I decided to stop carrying my LCP Max after my last range session. My J frame groups are litterally a quarter the size as my LCP Max groups and my spicy handloads line up perfectly with the sights.
>>64499060I can't tell, is that the 32 or the 380 version? The double stack 32 is the best version of the cheetah.
>>64499120380>>64499106I already have a 9mm, this one would mostly be for fun and Barettas look sexy
>>6449912332 would be the correct cartridge, anon.
>>64498274Nah, last time I checked they were available everywhere. Had some good deals on the full size recently but I'm waiting for the deals on to come on a centurion personally.
>>64499060If that's the 380 version the recoil is hefty. You can convert it to .32 acp with just a new barrel, but good luck finding real .32 beretta mags. I've been using 2 Promags I got to work by replacing the springs with Wolff replacement magazine springs, no problems so far.
>>64498607Gen5 triggers are pretty good unless you want comp slop
>>64499012I have enough small guns with shitty triggers. I want something nice that I can actually carry. >>64499024So that's the best striker fired, the pdp? I'd believe it. I only got to fire one mag (it was a busy day, there were lots of guns) but it was really nice. You can't tell from dry fire at the store. >I put the gun in a holster and that's itI know right? We should have lights and dots but, nah. It'll be fine. >>64499051Yes I extensively researched that as well. It was the battery at fault. It wasn't OEM, it wasn't to spec. The family tried to sue everybody. Calib Joiner died because he mixed old and new chink discount cr123a batteries, the dead one off gassed and overheated while he had it in his mouth while he was working on a car. This is why I only use USA made batteries and change them in pairs.
>>64499165>So that's the best striker fired, the pdp?The best trigger on a striker-fired handgun, yes, yes it is.
MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT NUCLEAR ANNOUNCEMENT THE INDIANS ARE ON THE WAR PATHTHE VULTURES ARE CIRCLING THE CARCASSTHE CRIPS ARE RAIDING THE LIQUOR STORE ....EFK Dragonfire is making PX4 conversion barrels. Including for .357 Sig.
>>64499165>So that's the best striker fired, the pdp?In terms of trigger, yes, easily. It's better than most hammer fired guns.
>>64497226She's perfect
>>64499156Well, we'll have to wait on the new ones to be sure then. I'm not paying panic prices for a fucking Glock. Are the new ones coming with the premium triggers stock? I thought I heard that somewhere.
>>64499200
>>64499200I just realized the implications. YOU'RE SICKGET HELP
>>64499169>>64499197You guys are really tempting me to get one. The catch is I don't want a range/comp gun. I want a legit carry gun or I'm not bothering. They don't make a subcompact, huh? So the "f"?
>>64499226just get a sig p365>b-but sig badYes but they make the best thing you're asking for.
>>64499237What part of not shit trigger isn't clear? Did they improve it in the last 5 years? I rented it twice and it sucked ass. Have you actually shot one?
>>64499165pdp is pretty good trigger and I like the grip shape, it's very slim, but note it's damn thick for carry, I would rather a gloc>>64499188>357 sig beretta>out of stockok I might have to buy another gun if this goes in stock
>>64499251>What part of not shit trigger isn't clear?The part where you want a carry gun.>Have you actually shot one?Yes, but I'd never buy one, I'm not giving Sig money.Get a subcompact carry gun with a normal (mediocre) trigger and buy a PDP. Don't waste time with the f model it's weird and was all fucked up on release.
>>64499258>ThickEven the k model? How's it compared to Beretta?
>>64499226Yes, the Female model designed for Female bones is, arguably, the best version of the PDP, and the PDP has the best trigger of any striker-fired gun. Oddly enough it works fine even if your bones are male. You're right though, it's not small, even the shorty PDP-F, the thinnest and smallest PDP, is still taller and thicker than a G19 (and problematic, unlike all the normal-sized ones). I don't know of anything that comes anywhere close, in terms of the trigger, that isn't an even bigger and heavier hammer-fired gun.>>64499251The p365 trigger is great!>for a micro-compactAin't it a bitch?
>>64499265I don't have a Beretta, it's like 1.1", noticeably thicker than typical glock (except 20/21), carry wise ppq was better
>>64499260Noted. I already have mediocre subcompact. >And buy a pdp If I'm not carrying it I can't justify the expense. I'm not going to compete and since range time is limited I'm only practicing with what I'm using. If I could still this place and move to the sticks and have a job out there it might be different but when every half hour of range time is paid for and ammo is so expensive, I can't be bothered with another "fun" gun I never shoot. I literally never shoot my rifles. I'd have to drive for hours to fire them more than 25 yards. There's indoor ranges everywhere but outdoor not so much.
>>64499206>new ones coming with the premium triggers stock?If Weapon Outfitters is to be believed, it's just going to be Gen5 triggers but with several mod blocks
>>64499060I ended up buying it
>>64499200She's like the 3rd girl to play Umi
>>64499060I have my 84FS and I love it. I'm planning on getting an 80X too.
>>64499334The 80x is great. You’ll want to get the wraparound grips. The vertec grip is shit.
>>64499212kek
when did 9x18 ammo get so rare wtf?
>>64499546like 8 years ago
>>64499546Ever since the import bans last decade
>breath, relax, feel it out, correct the grip, careful aim>3 rounds, 3" spread>shit 3 rounds rapid without even trying to aim>2.25" spread
>>64495761Chomp chomp chomp booty cheeks
Do any of these serialized trigger group pistols actually make good on their modularity besides the 320?
>>64498551P2000sk v2 LEM with a light fpbs
>>64499629I can confidently say that after 37 years of modular handguns with serialized FCUs within plastic replaceable grips, no, the experiment failed and nobody ever cared.
>>64497307Like 90% of the human body is only vital long term and destroying it won’t kill immediately. Cops love hitting limbs, intestines and lungs and somehow missing every major blood vessel.
>>64499629I think they’re part of an unrealized gun control initiative where each person gets limited to one serialized, welded shut, biometrically secured FCU and every "gun" is a shell, neutering civilian armament and halting arms proliferation in a way boomers and zoomers would proudly cope with.For that reason I am beyond not buying them. I won’t buy from any companies that currently make them and push the paradigm forward.
>>64499660dumbest theory ever
>>64499667Indeed it is, agent. The government would never do that. Or ammo rationing. They would never say we can have our assault rifles and common sense gun control too.
>>64499678no, they would do all of that and change the laws regarding sale of firearms parts, restricting them so your chassis means nothing. Holy shit you're literally like "uh the government would totally go full totalitarian but leave me a loophole and I HATE it!"Retard. Holy shit you are so fucking stupid. You can't even schizo properly. The fuck is wrong with you.
>>64499660>I won’t buy from any companies that currently make themCan't purchase from Ruger, S&W, FN, Sig, Beretta, Taurus, Kel-Tec, HK, Walther, Springfield, list goes on. What would you buy today?
>>64499686> uh the government would totally go full totalitarian but leave me a loophole and I HATE itBut that’s a general description of every law that removes a fundamental freedom from americans everShart of the deal
>>64499692CZ/ColtThis is going to get hard to avoid. It’s basically guaranteed given the current world order.
>>64499716I was going to jokingly say Colt but I refrained.>CZNot for long :)
>The FNCOPOPFAG (Firearm Non-Collection Order to Protect Our People From Assaults with Guns) Act>Recognizing that excessive gun collection results in the mass proliferation of firearms, and that the uncontrollable used market, fed by a supply of recently replaced guns, ensures a continued supply to the black market as there is no practical means to track private property, the US government hereby limits each adult citizen to two rifles, two shotguns, and two handguns, none of which may be sold, all of which citizens will have to continually prove they own. There will come a time in firearms technology development that this will easily pass and stay passed because the market alreafy have modular FCUs in every product line as a cost saving measure… and to comply with these seemingly pointless modularity demands in contracts that never actually matter. They make them because they will matter. It is the ultimate form of gun control for the current judicial establishment that essentially agrees the second amendment does not actually say "shall not be infringed", and actually says "the state shall decide what guns are reasonable to own, and the people shall be allowed those ones, but guns can never be completely banned". And then the maximums will shrink.
>>64499716Actually, sorry, I'm retarded but so are you. I had to double check, it's what I get for second guessing myself, Colt is off the list. The XSP has an internal serialized chassis with replaceable polymer grip module. Still don't know of a CZ this way though so hey, enjoy your P's.
>>64499756I decided to google it because I haven't thought about it in awhile, but looks like it's already too late for both Colt (the XSP) and CZ as well with the P-10 M.Sorry, bud, got another brand you'd like to try?
>>64499761We’re fucked aye
Is it normal that after 400 or more rounds magwell comes slightly loose? I just tightened mine and thats it but I'm wondering if that's common.
>>64499823all screws come loose, use some threadlocker
>>64499766I'm not against the serialized chassis thing, I'm actually a huge fag for it because I like manufacturing. Chassis pistols exist to be cheap and scalable, all claims of modularity are marketing lies told to justify making a cheaper gun. It's why cheap handguns became less-bad starting in the late 90s and now there are cheap guns that are perfectly fine, they're not pot-metal trash anymore. Kids don't realize those zinc throwaways from companies like Lorcin and Jennings were "cheap" at only $150 msrp back in 1990. That's over $350 today, the price of a Ruger RXM, can you imagine anyone buying a fucking Hi-Point for $350?Oh hey, Hi-Point, I don't think they've made a chassis pistol. There's your new favorite brand, you're welcome.
>>64499823normal, it's one of the reasons guns are designed without screws, there are usually very few if any
do you guys ever appreciate how insane of a shot Hickock45 actually is?I don't think people who are inexperienced shooters realize how hard it is to hit something like that 100 yard gong of his with a fucking 2" snubbie
>>64497226>I buy photo bookswhere?
What's a sturdy hammer fired 9mm handgun? I got a shitton of smg rounds I don't want to put through my old service pistols. The ammo is infamous for cracking slides by the ejection port on various guns.
>>64499629The sig 365 is probably the best example of it's success, not the 320. The icarus precision, mischeif machining, and wilson combat grips all offer something totally different than the base model. The speingfield echelon and taurus gx4 go the more traditional "modular" route allowing you to go from compact to full size without needing a fresh 4473, but also both have 3rd party frames that take those guns from plastic fantastics to metal frames with icarus and mischeif machining. On the other hand, you have berretta doing exactly fuck all with the serialized FCU APX.You loose nothing by making your gun a serialized FCU, and I wish more companies would do it
>>64499918Yeah, dude is a damn good shot with practically everything you put in his hands. Of course if I had a range in my back yard, I would probably become a great shot too after a while. XD
>>64498551M&P 2.0 compact, shield plus>>64499188fuck yeah thank you. Yet another reason I'm glad I got the .40. even at this obnoxious price I'd have two calibers in my Px4 for less than the whole gun goes for these days. Kind of wondering if I could find anyone to port the extended one, even though I don't have that kind of money. My brain says get the 9mm, my heart says .357 sig
>>64499701dude weed lmao
>>64498881No, i need to remove it. Used it 1 time and learned its crap, nothing i can bring to apply for gun club membership without looking like a tard.>>64498865That makes sense, i want a bipod next :3
>>64500173>ARKENThat's a reputation to have, expensive shit with bad quality control. Give you any actual trouble or just disappointed?
>>64500203I love it, at x4 i can get a clear image at 2yards. Colors are geate and i can get a very sharp image. Pic related my ist try having it sit on a carton box, the paralax was incorrect because i forget it. Only downside might be the weight
>>64500312Oh you meant the front sight, glad to hear it. I've seen Arken horror stories and assumed the worst.
>>64500349Thanks god not, my boss got the same for his airgun. Next week i test it and give a range report, i wonder if my boss likes the Coom Glock
>>64500312
>>64498332I counted 25 steps out where I put my target stand. So like 8-9 yards.
>>64500518>8-9Not bad!
>>64495761Frame mounted suppressors for Storm. Thoughts? There already are comps that do that.
>>64500565So no quick detach?
>>64499300Good. You got a good gun.
>>64500063I guess
45 was better when modern JHPs like HSTs or gold dots weren’t a thing.
>>64498812Wow dude, you're so cool and original. A true trendsetter!
>TRVTH NVKEthere is a bigger terminal difference between 9mm and .45 than .380 and 9mm.
>>64500748>FMJ was better back when there wasn't anything other than FMJ
>>64500051Look for models that were made in 9mm and .40, they were built to handle the hotter rounds, ex. USP, 92A1, etc..
>>64500801>TRVTH NVKE380 is a gay reddit round for estrogenized men that fell for the pocket carry meme
>>64500832>a round designed by John Moses Browning for small pistols is for estrogenized men.>meanwhile, uses the weakest and most low recoiling “duty” caliber in 9mm
.380 is the .40 cal of 9mm, its turned into a middle bastard child that has neither capacity nor power arguements to boast about thanks to the wheel of progress making new more innovative rounds or improving existing ones.
>>64500854I'll actually say its worse than .40, as at least with .40 you can convert a 9mm frame gun to shoot it, which at least can be an argument for power. .380 is literally just shorter 9mm these days which seems almost pointless unless someone has super tiny hands and can't even grip a single stack 9mm.
>>64500866>.380 is literally just shorter 9mm these daysanon... its always been that. its literally called 9mm short lmao
Barely any 380 jhp defensive loads reliably expand out of a short barrel while there are plenty of 9mm options that doCheck mate athiests
I’m gay and I use 9mm.It’s the ultimate choice for any shooter from any diverse background.
>>64500874Yes, and it existed in an era where modern 9mm would crack frames over time. It had utilitarian usage as a pocket pistol round when we couldn't reliably make pocket pistols that could handle more than .380. Now that modern materials manufacturing exists, its lost that usefulness.
I’m trans and I carry at bodyguard 2.0
>>64500886Hi Trans, I carry my PPK/S sometimes.
380 is fine, the advantage gained by a 9mm over a 380 in a pocket sized pistol is literally negligible. oh, and the bad guy doesnt check to see if the bullet expanded before deciding what to do next. some of yall are retarded and need to stop basing your opinions on ammo from redneck youtuber shooting into pocket pussy gel
>9mm users argue about ballistics>9mm haters think about gay sex and trannies
>>645009009mm is cheaper by a good margin, you can buy more 9mm. If its negligible why buy the more expensive round?
>>64500900.380 hurts my wrist in those tiny guns.9mm is better because it doesn’t hurt my wrist.
>>64500905380 guns are smaller and follow up shots are quicker. 380 is not at all cost prohibitive, if it is then maybe stop doordashing every day
>>64500918>There's no difference>Actually there is also stop bringing up cost that doesn't matterLook if you wanna be a hipster go for it, but 9mm is cheaper and you said it was negligible in smaller handguns.
9mm is the official caliber of BLM, LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ, and anti-ICE.I know if it’s good enough for them, it’s good enough for me.
>>64500900A post so retarded it could only have been made by someone that carries a 380.
Having a meltie because you use an outdated round is wild.
>>64500919>putting words in my mouth>arguing with themballistically speaking, it is negligible. the bad guy isnt calculating how many foot pounds you just dumped into him, a well placed shot from any gun capable of penetrating flesh can end the threat. 22s and 25s have been putting people in the ground for years. ask brazil how effective 380 can be.
>>645009339mm might be outdated but it’s not obsolete.Educate yourself.
Yeah he's seething
>>64500900>several police departments used to carry round nose 38 special and officers complained about lack of terminal performance >as soon as many switched to assorted hollow points such as the 158gr fbi load those complaints went awayYou’d have to be retarded to believe it doesn’t matter at all.
>>64500935>ballistically speaking, it is negligibleIt’s not
All of my trans sisters carry bodyguard 2.0s in our purses
>>64500961you say that because you dont understand why bullets incapacitate people
>>64500968cap
>>64500980Are you gonna pull a muh shot placement on me? Might as well carry a 22 then
>>64500980Neither do you, you just pretend to know lol
>>64501031shot placement matters, holy shit some of the posters here are actually retarded lmao. is it canadian hours or something?
>>64501036You’re one of the retarded ones btw
>>64501036No shit but terminal ballistics matter as well. Look up how many people have survived getting shot in the face with weak rounds.
>>64498912Everyone imports electronics from China. Just try and buy American, you just can't. Even something simple like a grill scrubber couldn't be made 100% American. It is impossible to overstate just how much the US industrial base has been hollowed out. I play a battletech, a miniature wargame, and when the Trump tariffs hit they put out a letter explaining that it was literally impossible for them to make the game in the US. Things like color printed rulebooks and printed cardboard packaging are just not made in the country for a price that approaches sensible. https://youtu.be/3ZTGwcHQfLY
>>64500801>TRVTH NVKETwo pennies are worth twice as much as one penny.
>>64501053>but terminal ballistics matter as welli never claimed or implied it didnt, i said the terminal ballistics between pocket sized 380s and 9mms is negligible. really hard to have a conversation when yall keep putting words in my mouth. >Look up how many people have survived getting shot in the face with weak rounds.further proving my point that shot placement matters
>380>9mm>45I wish Triton cartridge survived. We needed Triton, but we did not deserve.
>>64501075NTA but the difference is not negligible and is actually enough to matter especially when it comes to hollow points
Just bought a p228 and waiting for it to come into lgs. It only had three pictures and none of them showed the area proofmarks would be. It did have made in W Germany on the slide. My gut tells me it's gonna be made after 1994.Would I be doing that gun wrong by converting it to the e2 grips? I only paid 650 so it's probably not gonna be a true west German sig
>>64499212This is immediately what my mind went to.
>>64499660It is because the word "modular" gives procurement agents the world over uncontrollable erections.
>>64499635Unobtainium, but I'll try the lem trigger like I said earlier. The p30 is basically the same gun, right?
>>64499755>Fncopopfag act
>chassis systemHas anyone ITT EVERbought a second frame for a chassis gun?known anyone who bought a second frame for a chassis gun?seen a post in the in this general of someone who has multiple frames for their chassis gun? As for me, no, no, and maybe but probably not. Maybe a competition gun where I didn't know where the original fcu came from. Also, when they keep coming out with new versions of these same pistols, do they offer the new versions as a parts kit you can just slip your existing FCU in? No! They fucking don't. It's a scam and they know it.
>>64500051The 1911 with proper recoil and hammer springs for the ftlbs of the ammo.
>>64499755>two rifles, two shotguns, and two handgunsNo, very restrictive law vulnerable to further legislation to require all parts necessary for operation (upper or other non-serialized receiver or submodule, barrel) to be serialized and matched with the rest of the firearm.
>>64501284>>64499830>Chassis pistols exist to be cheap and scalable, all claims of modularity are marketing lies told to justify making a cheaper gun.
I think it's time to remind everyone why this modular shit exists in the first place. It's all because of the m17 trial requirements. But let's look deeper. Why was there a need to replace the Beretta? Last time it was ammo interchangeability with NATO allies, but why this time? It's an ugly truth /k/ommandos don't like to think about. You see, before the GWOT handguns were for officers. In WW2 radio and mine detection troops were given 1911s, but these were replaced by carbines. Why is that? It's because handguns are concealable. The ugly truth is that in war soldiers will change their minds. They may, in some cases quite rationally, decide they aren't going to do what they're told and might take their chances as a fugitive from military justice than obey what is effectively a command to commit suicide. This is accomplished much more easily with a hand gun because they don't let the enlisted soldiers have loaded weapons at all times and are subject to very strictly controlled behavior so aberrant behavior is easily detected. It's easy to see who has a carbine and is not impossible to visually verify it's unloaded (no mag, open bolt).Having to perform summary execution to mutineers is rare in modern armies (or impossible if fragged correctly in the jungle,) so the pistol became mostly vestigial. But then the big sand nigger zogcupation happened, and you can't "nation build" with your M4 at the ready 24/7, especially with imported Iranians ready to counterculturally enrich you at any time. So the handgun suddenly became necessary for all the soldiers as they are now like police in a ghetto. And what else did we see at this time? Women and Mexicans. Lots of them, with small hands that can't fit over the plank that is the Beretta's grip. And this is why we have "modularity," because isreal made it so small handed women and Mexicans had to play beat cop for dune coons.
>>64501404Sheeeit
>>64499830How does chassis even make it cheaper, compared to, say, glock, which standardizes parts through a lot of different models, but also has a serialized plastic grip that typically holds the chassis on modular designs.>>64501390This whole grip size issue, which was a solved problem for the cops after modular backstraps, is much more plausible. Also, beautiful historical summary. bravo anon.
>>64499212
>>64501425Thank you. Finding the ugly hidden truth behind the propaganda has been a hobby of mine my whole life. War and history never made sense until I dug deeper. (Why are there six million books and documentaries on WW2 but only 109 on WW1?). Shit like that.Since the explosion of internet resources this process has become easier.
>>64500935380s rarely expand and when they do, they tend to underpenetrate unless you use a bullet that only expands to 45 caliber like an XTP. The difference in energy is irrelevant because energy is not a wounding factor at handgun velocities, but the difference in size between an expanded 9mm and 380 is a factor. It's not a huge factor, but 9mm is indeed more effective than 380 and only a retard would think otherwise. I personally think that what you gain in smaller sized guns or less recoil in 9mm sized guns chambered in 380 make up for the lesser terminal ballistic effect.
>>64501425Easier machining, easier outsourcing, but I really didn't mean compared to Glocks. Glocks are definitely cheap but also of the same era, the first Glock started shipping only 2 years before the first chassis pistol, they're contemporaries. Both are leaps and bounds cheaper to produce than their original competitors. Pretty obvious for Glock, but less obvious with the early Grendel/Kel-Tec guns, they were competing with 1980s-spec pocket guns like small Berettas and Colt Mustangs, and trash like S&Ws SW380. The SW380 and the Kel-Tec P11 launched at the same price about 8 months apart. Kel-Tec was brand new and had so little money they couldn't afford the expense to patent their designs. The P11 was a runaway success and helped launch Kel-Tec as a company, they sold it for 24 years. The SW380 on the other hand, an example of an attempt at a "cheap" pocket gun, Zamak slide like a Hi-Point, no mag release (at all, the mags had plastic clips built in to hold them into the frame), and no tool-less takedown at all (step 1 is punch a roll pin), discontinued after 1 year. That's the comparison there, best S&W could do was a gun slightly worse than a ring-of-fire throwaway for the same price that the brand new Florida company is charging for their locked breach, lightweight, compact, and reliable chassis pistol. A Ruger LCP is $250, the Beretta Tomcrack is fatter, heavier, less reliable, and costs $650, and I'll bet Ruger's margins are still better.
Good afternoon.
>>64501654Good morning.
>>64501493>380s rarely expandin what?>and when they do, they tend to underpenetratein what? if you answer ballistics gel your opinion can be discarded
>>64498365dude weed lmao
Okay, we're doing the caliber thing again. You need central nervous system hits for instant stops. It's a nigger trying to stab you that you're shooting with a gun, not a deer that's running away you're shooting with a rifle. You probably won't get attacked. If you are, presenting the gun will probably stop the threat.If not, firing the gun will probably stop the threat.If not, hitting the target anywhere will probably stop the threat.If you are unlucky enough to have a persistent attacker you've wounded you're probably fucked anyway, and a fast, controlled, follow up head shot is your best hope and that's going to be easiest with the softest shooting legit caliber. If your plan is to disable from blood loss and non CNS organ damage through power, volume, and expansion, you're going to need duty size and spare mags to be sure, regardless of caliber.
>>64501284I have posted my p365xl in multiple frame configurations, currently carry it with the XL slide but micro frame and capacity.I also did this bullshit and its fun,Modular pistols are great but the only problem i can see is i recently fucked up by taking the full size frame but packing the compact magazines to the range, making it so i couldn't actually shoot it. I had several other guns but that sucked.
>>64501693Watcha modeling?
>>64502251New grips, mags, and a charging handle because arthritis. I'd really like to do more but I'm not going to start cutting up my 1907, in the long term I'll probably clone the frame and slide and buy a couple used breech plugs so I can do whatever and not feel bad about it.
>>64498082Very nice. Have a garrison myself; yours looks better.
>>64499104
>>64495761who's the girl/book/link to porno video so i can crank it of the OP image this is relevant to the thread
>>64502407I feel like we've had sexy OPs before without multiple people showing up just to ask for sauce that's already been delivered repeatedly. Am I wrong?
I may need to take Phlster's advice and purchase the guns that I intend to make holsters for. There's info that's hard to get from a cast replica (like real weight distribution) that I really need to know to make a good holster.
>>64502431shitposting after autosage and page 9 does NOT count, dipstick
>>64502048>this bullshitYou dremmelled the frame? What is that a 320? It's hard to read this image. Please tell me you sanded it after. Also, thank you for sharing. That's at least one person.
>>64502431Phone posting zoomies and thirdies. You can't see op replies on a phone.
>>64502450yes, its a p320 and i cut out the angles and shit. They only sold the frames in full size but i had the compact slide so i just dremeled it. I was hoping for all the p320 slander to tank the prices of slides and frames and acessories but it hasn't done SHIT, glockshills need to step up their fucking game
>>64502438fair.
>>64498021>officers exploiting stun lock mechanics with default pistols against perpetrators that have moderate HP, kekdoes this mean 9mm good or bad
>>64498082is the garrison the best base 1911 to buy if you want to modify it?
>>64502594It means the police are poor marksmenhttps://youtu.be/RXgAAg3TCQc?t=97You can see them shooting the dirt and side view mirror in spite of the perpetrator being a point blank range
>>64501951Or you can aim for the pelvis and disable them. Hips move around a lot less than the head and is just a low center mass hit. The only problem is that you need something with decent penetrating power to actually break the hips. They are some of the larger bones in humans after all, but solid bullets like the Lehigh XDs or their knockoffs, hard casts, or flat nose fmj do a good job at that and can still pop a heart or head if you can or must make that shot.
I'm wondering if we're gonna see a collage from the October qual.
>>64502716Barely anyone participated and for good reason. Shooting art is a meme
>>64502675If he's melee, sure. If he's got a gun and is particularly pain resistant he can still kill you. I think of pelvic shots as anti body armor tactics, but that's a different thing. Good of you to remind me of the option, tho. My thinking has become stagnant.
>>64500763Fuck, at least its a white woman. That's a significant improvement over the usual.
>>64500854.40 is a pretty decent caliber. So is .380. All this handgun caliber nonsense is gay and retarded.
>>64502850The only correct opinion.
>>64501425>was solved by not being limited to a Beretta 92 brick in the first placeFTFY
>>64500899Based.
>>64502870corgi is good dog
>>64502835Buy your own books and take your own photos
>>64500936>9mm might be outdated but it’s not obsolete. Based. I haven't broken this image out in a long time. 9mm is the middle ground of every aspect of handgun calibers. All of which are basically crap.
>>64501284I have and unfortunately was for a P320. It's actually a pretty good gun, but Inam a bit concerned it might blow my dick off.
>>64502893>fake irisescringe
>>64502675>you can aim for the pelvis and disable them.This is particularly useful with targets wearing body armor, but that's pretty esoteric in North America. If you are under attack from someone in body armor you are probably fucked if all you have is a handgun.
>>64502893Get better taste in women.
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>>64502970Eyes not slant enough in the third image
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>>64503028saved
>>64503028kek
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>>64502893Where can I get mags like that but with eastern bloc women?
>>64503079Japan also has you covered
>>64503079>Two young eastern-block women walking to school, 1933 (Colorized)
>>64502949If you invert their penis with a hollow point at 1200fps they are probably going to drop. Armor or no.
>>64501823Not him faggot. It's missing the usual schizo ramblings that accompany.>>64502893
