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>Spears are more useful than swords in basically every actual ancient and medieval context except "I lost my spear/cannot bring a spear because it's too large"
>But swords are always the hero's weapon in every myth ever
???
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>>64502821
Heros have swords because swords are special. If they had spears they wouldn't be heroes. The point is symbolism, not a practical fighting tool.
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>>64502821
>Hemafag assblasted about the gladius up his poop hole thread #100000
Maybe furry cuckolds dance instructors and smarmy turtle looking euros who have never, ever, in their lives, seen combat aren't the end all be all of battlefield authority.
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shield block spear sword cut spear no spear
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it's because you can't keep a spear sheathed on you
let's say the hero is meeting with shady possible villains
he's not going to sit at the meeting while holding his spear the whole time, that's overtly hostile, but he also doesn't want to leave it at the doorway out of reach
it's inconvenient for the hero to have a spear whenever he's not in a battle, but he's a hero and not just a warrior so he can't just fight every problem
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>>64502821
It's just Arthurian (French) Romance having a huge impact on pop culture since 1170 AD. Fun fact, Tolkien hated that a Frog wrote the definitive British fairytale about King Arthur, so he wrote the Germanic-Finnish inspired LotR to spite it.
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>>64502821
>swords are always the hero's weapon
True. I have a sword and I am a hero. My mom made me put it in storage, but I know right where it is just in case.
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>>64502821
>But swords are always the hero's weapon in every myth ever
Swords are also all over Europe. There's basically no point in history in which swords don't exist on the battlefield. Even societies that never invented metallurgy have analogues for swords in the macahuitl and leiomanu.
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>>64502821
>rifles are better battlefield weapons than pistols
>cool guy hero always has a pistol
man never changes
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>>64506846
Contrarians trying to find the cooler weapon to like accidentally psyop'd themselves into thinking swords didn't work or exist, and now they're left genuinely confused why all the old tapestries have people fighting with swords and that they keep finding them in burial plots.
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>>64502821
>Spears are more useful than swords in basically every actual ancient and medieval context except "I lost my spear/cannot bring a spear because it's too large"
thats just flat out wrong, people carried swords out of choice, many people carried swords as primary weapons

>>But swords are always the hero's weapon in every myth ever
because swords are more expensive and need more training to use than spears, so owning one was a sign of high status
anyone owning and being able to use a sword is an easy shorthand way to say "professional soldier" or to symbolically show someone was noble, since someone carrying a sword would mean they embody noble virtues by association
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>>64504503
This.
Spears are like rifles : great when in an actual battle but you don't want to carry them around all day if you can avoid it.
Swords are like handguns : you can carry them at your belt and let them hang there for the day without much care. People will be reminded not to mess with you but won't feel like you are out to kill them.
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>>64507344
>Swords are like handguns
not quite true, since almost everyone on the battlefield carried a sword and many people used swords as their main weapon
the only people who carry handguns as a primary are cops or MPs, and no one with a rifle carries a handgun

the sword is closer to some kind of carbine or PDW
but even that isnt perfectly analagous to a sword, since PDWs replace rifles instead of supplement them
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>>64502821
spearcucks and their inferiority complex is so cute desu
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>>64507307
>because swords are more expensive and need more training to use than spears
Ding ding ding. The sword is far more versatile in individual combat, so while a spear may have been good in a tight formation, this rendered even the best and most well-coordinated spearmen inflexible in combat. But on the other hand, it was way cheaper to equip a bunch of peasants with a spear and a shield than a sword, and most likely some basic armor to protect said sword. So spears predominated in low quality infantry for a very long time (or all the way up to the era of firearms, in some cultures)

The only time you really got well trained and equipped swordsmen vs well trained and equipped spearmen was in classical era Roman vs Greek infantry matchups, and ofc Rome absolutely wiped the floor with them. That happened for a number of reasons, but the inferiority of spearcucks was definitely one of those reasons



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