Anyone own one? I want a classic shotgun and this seems like the only new-production one from a major company. Cz also isn't the worst brand ever, considering getting one.
>>64503803Isn't CZ / Uberti shotgun just turkshit? Or was it brazil? Don't care, still love my Stoeger coach gun.
>>64503809its all turkshit cz doesnt make a single shotgun in house
>>64503809Yes, they're Hulugu. Is that bad?
>>64503803>and this seems like the only new-productiondon't buy new production. All the new production is turkshit. Buy an older gun. It will be much better quality, and better value for money.
>>64504057>Is that bad?Yes. Pedersoli makes some acceptable hammer guns, otherwise look at used.
>>64504539>All the new production is turkshit (or Chinese)Unless you're willing to pay at least 4 or 5 for a (lower end) Italian, German, or English SxS.High quality new-production SxS guns aren't in very high demand, so they are limited production guns, usually made to order.The truly high-end ones don't even list a base price in their catalogs, if you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford one.As far as I'm aware, the cheapest new production SxS that's of decent quality (not Turkish or Chinese) would probably be the Fabarm Classic series. Pic rel. These start at about 4 grand in Europe, for the most basic model, versions with extra fancy engravings, faux-sidelocks, fancy wood etc are more expensive. Don't know about US pricing or availability in regards to this gun.The Beretta Parallelo series is better, but they cost about twice as much as the entry level Fabarm, but they offer a higher standard of wood and engraving than the base-model Fabarm.The Rizzini 550 and 552 series are another option. I've never fired one but they're a bit cheaper than the Berettas, and seem to offer more for the money. They can also be ordered with old-school double triggers which is I personally like.
>>64504681>Unless you're willing to pay at least 4 or 5 for a (lower end) Italian, German, or English SxS.Those are excellent, but rarely in a hammer configuration. If anon wants a hammer gun specifically it makes things a lot more complicated. The Beretta Paralellos are awesome, but they're not hammer guns.If anon wants a quality SxS but is willing to accept a hammerless gun then the best deals going in the US would be something like a used AyA Matador or a Beretta Silver Hawk.
>>64504723Or, if anon is wiling to put up with 2.5" shells there are a number of really nice older doubles out there that are brilliant value for money. I came across a Westley Richards SxS hammer 12ga a couple weeks ago for $1300. Nitro proof. The barrels had been sleeved so it had no collector value but would be a fucking fantastic shooter.
>>64503803I've been rough shooting with a pedersolli 12 gague balck powder hammer gun and dogs and its been great. Not even sure if I'll ever go back to smokeless for rough shooting.
>>64504723>New production shotgun>SxS>true side-lock>exposed hammers >double triggers>Actual high quality, not made of cheap pot metal somewhere in the third world Any of the gunmakers known for making "Best guns" would be happy to make one upon request, but it'll probably end up costing >25 grand.Pic-rel, this isn't an antique, it's a new-production Krieghoff.OP's best choice is probably an old gun.I know Husqvarna made a fuck-ton of hammer guns.Their Model-20 was a ludicrously strong and rugged gun with a Lefachuax underlever action.These things were a popular alternative for budget-minded hunters, so they were kept in production well into the 1940s.The later production guns all have barrels made of good modern steel and will survive hot nitro loads, and mild steel-shot sporting loads without the slightest complaint.Due to the number of these guns made, and the fact that they aren't very desirable to modern shooters, they're usually priced very low.Husqvarna made top-lever hammer guns too, but those are rarer and more sought after, so they're usually much more expensive.It should be noted that most of these old guns have 2½" chambers, so you've either got to be careful with ammo selection or have the chambers reamed out by a gunsmith, or you may encounter dangerous over-pressures with modern 2¾" ammo.
>>64503803Pietta makes a few coach guns too. Idk how hard they are to find, but Pietta makes western reproduction stuff and they’re out of Italy.
Looks like was wrong about Husqarna's old top-lever hammer guns being way more expensive.Had a look at US importers and retailers selling used guns, and it looks like you can pick up a decent one for around $500 with a really nice one being around $1.000Pic rel is a 12ga for sale by Simpson Limited for $800.
>>64504795Whoops! That's the wrong pic, this is the $800 gun.
>>64504774>Any of the gunmakers known for making "Best guns" would be happy to make one upon request, but it'll probably end up costing >25 grand.Yes, that's what I meant by "a lot more complicated".>OP's best choice is probably an old gun.I just said that.
>>64504723>>64504681I already have a 1957 stevens-savage double in 12. I want a classic-style (hammers, 28 or 30 inch barrels)What is bad about turkish guns? Most shotguns in my area are made in turkey.
>>64504740The pedersolli "the bohemian" shogun is basically what I want (hammers, modern cartridge, long barrels) but they are 2x/3x the cost of a cz, which is a brand I know more about. Would that be worth such a high cost?
>>64506260>What is bad about turkish guns?they don't last, they're difficult to source parts for.
>>64506285Why don't they last, precisely? Inferior steel? Factory defects?
>>64506293The steel composition is probably fine but the heat treatment rarely is--not the barrels, the lockwork and the action. The guns start out fine but after a several hundred shells start to get off the face. The extractors are generally reliable but if it's an ejector gun then expect it to be a constant battle to keep them in time.
>>64506305I have read online that pedersolli is very low quality, they basically only exist because they have a monopoly on a lot of the guns they make. The cz guns are a larger company, have better quality control, and are also easier to get work on/parts for because of CZ USA.Definitely leaning towards the CZ hammer classic.
>>64506387>and are also easier to get work on/parts for because of CZ USA.czs warranty is good if you are in the 3 year period and uttter go fuck yourself if you are past that or the gun is discontinued. they constantly discontinue things. cz warranty is not to be trusted at all. you have maybe a 5 year window of yeh they will help you. if its a gun thats been out of production for over a decade hahaha they wont help at all.
