>one of the first combat actions of the F-35 was Operation Rough Rider. The operation’s objective was to “disintegrate” the capabilities of the Houthis in Yemen>Notably, the squadron also recorded the first air-to-air kills from an F-35A against one-way attack drones>Osborne also mentioned another interesting detail in his statement. “This is the first time anyone has been shot at in 20 years – actually carrying out the Wild Weasel mission. It’s the first time we’re carrying novel weapons on the F-35, bombing into tunnels, double-tapping targets with deep-penetration weapons,” Osborne said.>In May, U.S. officials speaking to The New York Times said Houthi rebels ‘nearly struck’ U.S. F-16s and an F-35 within the first 30 days of Operation Rough Rider. Osborne’s statement could be a reference to that event, although the service did not release details.>With one of the primary missions sets of the 388th FW’s F-35s being the Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD), on June 22, a formation of the unit’s F-35s was the first to penetrate Iranian airspace. The Lightnings used their stealth, radar, sensors and targeting systems to detect and destroy surface-to-air threats.>“Our weapons officer was the overall mission commander,” Osborne said. “We flew hundreds of miles into Iran, escorting the B-2s the entire way.”>“We employed weapons to great effect against surface-to-air missile sites… while they were trying to target us with some very high high-end systems and they were just unable to,” said Osborne. “It was cool to see the jet detect and defeat things – to watch it do exactly what it was designed to do.”>The F-35s escorted the package out of Iran, and were the last U.S. assets to leave Iranian airspace.https://theaviationist.com/2025/11/25/f-35-sead-op-midnight-hammer/If only locksneed could get its head out of its ass and finishes the block 4 upgrade so the airforce could bulk buy a 1000 more F-35
>>64561274Pure sex.I want to stick my dick in it.
>while they were trying to target us with some very high high-end systems and they were just unable toWhat's air defense doing?
>>64561770>What's air defense doing?Its best anon, Its best.
>>64561274>We employed weapons to great effect against surface-to-air missile sitesIsraeli propaganda and thirdie cope busted in one sentence. Beautiful.
>>64561274thirdies seething rn
>>64561841The fact that not a single aircraft was shot down speaks volumes. The Iranians didn't even get so much as an F-16.
>>64561274>very high high-end systemsso a cheap clone of patriot and cheap clone of buk? surely an improvement over dropping paveways on S-125s
>>64561274I remember seeing FIRMS pickup on a fire that was believed to be a pantsir employed and destroyed near Fordo
>>64561274>Operation was a failure anyway>Almost got hit by the HOUTHIS lmao>Bombed an empty bunkerNot the greatest advertisement for your plane.
>>64563550Incredibly brown cope
>>64563596>Incredibly brown cope
>>64563606Yeah, the planes actually fly so often that they can get the chance to see wear and tear.
Will west taiwan ever get the same ws15 engines in all the jf20.
>>64563550>Almost got hitI'm sure this counts for something in thirdieland.
>>64563622Hey! They finally got rid of all their MiG-21 derivatives. That's should be enough for now.
>>64561274>>64561294Damn that's one ugly plane
>>64561274>In May, U.S. officials speaking to The New York Times said Houthi rebels ‘nearly struck’ U.S. F-16s and an F-35 within the first 30 days of Operation Rough Rider. Osborne’s statement could be a reference to that event, although the service did not release details.When your forces are so cutting edge that your enemy consider it a victory when it managed to fire once in your general direction without hitting after you made dozen of successful drops on him for weeks.
>>64562776S-300 and S-400.
>>64563550Being totally unable to defend your most secure facilities then pretending you didn't want it all along is some next level cope.
>>64563917Damn that’s one ugly thirdie
>>64563917Don't worry, you won't see it when it drops an SDB on your head.
>>64563613Yeah some of the F35Bs have some wear and tear on the PoW after a long deployment. Sign of a navy actually doing shit.
>>64561294Slut
>>64563606At least the brown is on the outside, not inside, unlike in your air force
>>64564200>>64564264>the falseflag chinkshill is malfunctioning
>>64564269You seem to be delusional. Not schilling for west taiwan. You need to do some research and know when someone is dunking on west taiwan.
>>64564333You don't need to be spamming chink fails when the thread topic is the sandbox.
and they only have 1300 (ONE THOUSAND AND THREE HUNDRED) of the thing
>>64563596Ah yes, brown cope is when your operation was a total failure but its okay because we spent billions bombing infrastructure trying to protect Israel only to achieve nothing.Fucking retard.
>>64564240In 2025.. common folks
>>64563606"stealth coatings" are just iron spheres mixed into paint, ofc they turn brown when they get sprayed with sea water because they turn into rust.
>>64561770Modern russian AA is practically worthless. there is no other reasonable conclusion to be reached at this point. They can't even track and intercept a relatively low velocity and high visibility 40yr old missile from a HIMARS and get ACKED instead. They're trying their best, but they're entirely unequipped to be actually effective. Im starting to think that the multiple airliners they've shot down with SAMs aren't even out of malice, the multiple blue on blue incidents arent out of operator incompetence, they're being done because the operators are terrified and their own systems are so bad that they'd have a hard time detecting any real modern threat or differentiating even obvious targets like a MIG or F-16 from each other or even perhaps an airliner. Its actually THAT bad.
>>64564560Proving effectiveness against S-300 and S-400 systems is unironically worth it alone. That shits louder than a gun shot to any nations military or political body if they're paying any attention. No Russian wunderwaffen will protect you from the US's standard issue equipment, let alone the next gen shit they're already making.
>Houthi's manage to get a shot off>Iranian air defese does nothingAre Iranians that bad?
>>64564976All evidence shows that most of Israel's strikes were carried out with F-15s and F-16s firing standoff munitions due to range, the F-35's piss poor payload in stealth configuration, and Israel's inability to completely knockout Iranian air defense. There is also little evidence based on Iranian filming and satellite footage that America conducted any SEAD campaign during their strike against Fordow.Israel had complete and total air superiority against Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis and failed to defeat them. Iran wasn't deterred by the strikes or by the F-35s performance. Both Russia and China already have all F-35's secrets from Israel and have their own stealth aircraft so they aren't deterred at all either.If anything the last few years of war has shown just how powerful and effective tunnels and ballistic missiles are against airpower so we really should be tunnel and ballistic missile maxxing.
>>64565104
>>64563606The fact that it looks kinda like rust implies that there is ferrous material in the RAM, right?I wonder if you could use magnetism to aid in detecting stealth aircraft
>>64565104>All evidence shows that most of Israel's strikes were carried out with F-15s and F-16sits almost like stealth aircraft are harder to detect or something
>>64565153Israel themselves posted the planes used in their attack and they were F-15s and F-16s. Plus quite literally zero pictures have emerged of any Israeli planes over Iranian cities and there are plenty of pictures of downed Israeli drones so its pretty safe to assume that Iranian air defenses were never totally depleted.
>>64564560>trying to protect IsraelIsrael is still standing, so the operation was a success.
>>64565104I didn't realize SDBs were now able to just teleport where you need them. Chinks and thirdies are even further behind then we thought?
>>64564896That's not how magnets work. If your sensor is sensitive to be triggered by the ferrous materials of the stealth coating of a plane at god-knows how far going god-knows how fast...... it's gonna fucking scream at the sky because our planet is surrounded by a magnetosphere, if the electricity powering the thing doesn't create enough interference from inside itself that the sensor is being triggered from it merely being connected to a live source of power.
>>64565453Wrong post to reply to, I'm a fucking dumbass>>64565144
>>64563606the absolute state of the ameristani navy
>>64561274>B-2 stealth bomber designed to penetrate alone strongest AD network in the world (USSR)>needs escorts when flying against 3rd world flip flop wearers How is it supposed to bomb Chyna?F-35 doesn't have range to escort there
>>64563550'Almost being hit' is the same as NOT being hit you idiot.
>>64565501It's not so much "B2 needs an escort" and more "we can afford to be extra-careful and go for overkill here". Trump wanted à show of force and à feat of logistics, flexing what the USA could do and the rest of the world couldn't. Doing si without a single loss was obligatory and there was no reason not to be careful.As for the range of F-35, the targets were about 600 km away from Irak's border, with air refueling happening further away from that. I let you look at how many chinese targets are within 600 km of its coastline. Distance from Japan to China is about 800-1000 km.
>>64565173>plenty of pictures of downed Israeli dronesThere were a grand total of two (2) israeli drones lost but you are right that we got their pictures from every single angles.
>>64565104now this is some premium cope.
>>64565104>and failed to defeat themI don’t even like jews but the way thirdies use mental gymnastics and straight-up hallucination to twist every single loss on their end as a victory blows my mind.Nigger, not all being exterminated does not mean you win.
>>64565467Functional and constantly on deployment, correct.
>>64565757Everyone can be a winner if you have thirdie standards for victory.
>>64565104>Israel had complete and total air superiority against Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis and failed to defeat themLet's define the goal before moving its post further, shall we ?What would you consider "defeating" the Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis ?Because as of right now, all three are basically at best nuisances and at worst impotent bitches.Sometime, you don't need to exterminate your enemies down to the last son : you can just reduce their capacity to harm you up to a point where you can live with it.Same way we will never get rid of Somali pirates as long as there'll be shipping in the Indian Ocean and misery in Somalia : you cannot prevent somali to turn to piracy out of desperation, not without either showering them with wealth or exterminating them all. But you can periodically cull the herd to keep the threat manageable.Same for terrorism : you cannot prevent idiots to have ideas and act upon them but you can prevent them to get too effective by periodically murdering your way across their ranks, letting only the most moderate elements alive, disorganized and more concerned with immediate daily survival than ideological struggle.The Houtis are a plague, sure, but world trade just adapted around them so far. They are, in the end, a curiosity and a localized problem that can be ignored or endured without it compromizing our ways.Now, if it was about pride and saving face AND the Houtis kept saying "you have lost unless you kill us all, you weak-bellied imperialist infidels !", sure, there would be an extermination campaign.But Western civilization didn't get where it is by being a slave of appearances and whims : we barely care about what the rest of the world think of us as long as we can keep prospering.
>>64565677>It's not so much "B2 needs an escort"F-35 literally preformed SEAD.>As for the range of F-35, the targets were about 600 km away from Irak's border, with air refueling happening further away from that. I let you look at how many chinese targets are within 600 km of its coastline. >let me fly Stratotanker along Chinese coastline Yeah.
>>64565780>Same way we will never get rid of Somali pirates as long as there'll be shipping in the Indian Ocean and misery in Somalia : you cannot prevent somali to turn to piracy out of desperation, not without either showering them with wealth or exterminating them all.19th century British Empire easily can do it. Just run couple gunboats along Somalian coast and sink every boat in sight, in sea or moored. Can't be pirate without ship.
>>64563550Hows the Tejas doing shit skin?
>>64561274f35 causing thirdie cope lol , lmao even.>>64565058iran has been undersactions since 79 so yes their radar system is very pathetic. hothis still have access to black market goods so tech isn't the problem.what is what iran has problem iran has is to get past sactions and isreal snoopes getting to the country disabling them on the ground before the attack. yeman doesn't have this issue.
>>64565795>F-35 literally preformed SEAD.Yep. 'cause the USAF could afford to do so.When sending several planes at hundred of millions $US a piece above enemy territory, would you NOT pile up advantages and be cautious if you could afford to be ?It's not a situation where the USAF had to choose between using the F-35 for escort or using them somewhere else : the cost of flying a F-35 for an hour is around 40-50K $US.B2 had a price tag around 2 billions $US.Even if the whole USAF fleet of F-35 would have swarmed Iran's airspace for a full day, the cost would have been less than that of a single B-2 getting downed. There were seven B-2 above Iran for that operation.Does that mean that, without the F-35, the B-2 would have been intercepted ? We do not know. But the fact that not a single F-35 got so much as targeted by Iran means that either Iran's air defense was already defeated or that it was no match for the USAF's tech to begin with.Now, you stated that the F-35 did SEAD so that mean they neutralized at least some of Iran's air defense, which means there was air defense left. Since said air defense didn't hit a single target, we can assume it was option B : Iran's air defense was already defeated or that it was no match for the USAF's tech to begin with... and so the USAF has been too cautious. What a terrible crime for a superpower to not be reckless in how it spends its might...Note that the alternative isn't much better :If Iran air defense was already defeated before the USAF even arrived, that means Israel's airforce alone was enough to do the job.If they did it using F-35, then the same argument applies : USA's tech is too good for its enemies.If they did it using F-16 and F-15 while not losing a single plane, that means that Iran's air defense was even more miserable to begin with.And so we are back to square one : sure, the USA did escort their B-2 but most evidences point to it being an additionnal precaution rather than a necessity.
>>64565799Short term, you are perfectly right.Long term, the problem comes back so you do it again periodically.It's one of these situations where the criminals see the opportunity as very rewarding and the cost of entry as very low : you can increase the cost of entry for them but as long as the prize remains, there'll be idiots to try and seize it.As long as there ain't too many idiots, you are good with the occasional theft.
>>64564896you didnt hear it from me, the stealth coating is iron particles suspended in a plasticoat like elastomer. you can get similar results by mixing iron nano spheres into some plasticoat and you will have a similar but not so durable ram coating.
>>64565834>It's one of these situations where the criminals see the opportunity as very rewarding and the cost of entry as very low : you can increase the cost of entry for them but as long as the prize remains, there'll be idiots to try and seize it.When there is no boats, and boats you are trying to put into water explode cost of entering becomes prohibitive.
>>64565827>Yep. 'cause the USAF could afford to do so.F-35 could do it. B-2 couldn't.
>>64565795I guess you haven't heard of the MQ-25 or buddy tanking.
>>645658591 boatful of cocaine succesfully smuggled will easily finance 1000 more dinghys
>>64565795>>64565827Besides, we are talking like the B-2 is the only platform when there are 6 B-21 Raiders in various stages of production and 2 already flying. The Raider is estimated to be an order of magnitude harder to detect on all spectrums.
>>64565861Not even sure what you are talking about here.Yes, B-2 ain't for SEAD.The fact that the USAF could afford to do both SEAD and long-range bombing from accross the planet in total impunity isn't a black mark against the USAF.
>>64561843>>64563596>>64564976>>64565153>bombing towelheads in mudhuts>downing low cost dronesHow is this remotely relevant? The F-35 never attacks enemies with air forces. It's a pro boxer beating the shit out of a 80 yo cripple with down syndrome.
>>64564976>Proving effectiveness against S-300 and S-400 systems is unironically worth it alone.Why do you monkeys keep lying about the S-400? It's verifiably false. Even the 3 or so S-300 export variant batteries they had are totally irrelevant without C4ISR, and of course and air force (fighter jets, reconnaissance, awacs, etc).
>>64566764Sadly, there's no other pro boxer to test it against.But since we don't build aircrafts to duel other aircrafts as a dick measuring contest, this is fine.
>>64566773>Why do you monkeys keep lying about the S-400?Because until proven otherwise, the West will assume the worst.And it was only recently that the pile of evidences became so huge it couldn't be denied that Russian MIC had no technological edge at all.
>>64566860>Because until proven otherwise, the West will assume the worst.so you make shit up on 4chan, assume it's true until proven otherwise?
>>64566921Anon, the overhyped of the Russian AA systems is at least 20 years old and goes far beyond 4chan.It was already a running joke by the end of the 90s that every post-cold war conflict made the USA look bad for NOT testing the soviets harder, given how soviet equipment was proving to be utter junk. The cope about "monkey model" was already in full swing right after the Gulf War, with the S-300 keeping it's reputation only because no country which had it had had to use it yet.
>>64565104>Literal first hand accounts describing how F35s made the strikes happen>Umm acksually F35s weren't used at allLaughing at ur life
>>64566950Iran possessing the S-400 is entirely made up on 4chan. Iran purchased 4 batteries of the S-300
>>64566773>>64567159The next thirdie cope... is pretending Iran had shitty equipment and totally didn't need the S-400?>Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) officials previously emphasized confidence in domestic systems like the Bavar-373 and Khordad-15. However, the timing of the delivery—first reported in August 2024—and the recent test suggest a limited but strategic deployment of foreign systems.https://defensemirror.com/news/39946/Iran_Receives_Russian_S_400__Chinese_HQ_Air_Defense_Systems
>>64563662that's incorrect, theres still active J7s that may have been turned into drones
>>64564224there should be more than enough hanger space to keep them all below decks. QE and PoW have anemic airwings for their size
>>64564333whatever you say chink. It obvious the "west taiwan" posts are strawman samefagging. Either that or you're a jeet
>>64565757>Failing to achieve all your goals means you win because you bombed enough apartment complexes.
>>64565780There is little to no evidence that Hamas, Hezbollah, or the Houthis have been operationally degraded in any meaningful way. Rest of your post is copium so I didn't read it.
>>64566991>I believe everything the government says at face value because they're totally trust worthy and never lie.
>>64568165You libertarians are so retarded
>>64561274Translation: we are very shabbos and do exactly as our jew masters command. No Persian ever called me a Goy.
>>64561274the Houthis have rekt the Gringos many times not to mention all those "seals" drowning on the boat ride over there. LOL! What a bunch of fucking losers.
>>64565173"It's all true, even if it never happened."
>>64561274>"It was cool to see the jet detect and defeat things – to watch it do exactly what it was designed to do.”https://youtu.be/dcsK3s9PHQM
>>64569204>thirdie has to resort to fantasies inside his mind to cope with the grim reality of his existenceSad.
>>64568159>t-there is little to no evidenceApart from, you know, losing thousands of fighters, losing all their supplies, and their leadership.But in the mind of the thirdie, any embarrassing loss can be transformed into a glorious victory, if only it worked that way in the real world as well.
>>64565104>the brownest hands
>>64570857><shittiest of all
