What are these for?
Shooting stuff
going and fucking yourself
>>64562481The lever-action .410's main purpose is legal compliance in cucknations where pumps are outlawed. The garden gun is just like its name suggests: for pest control in your garden. It's for blasting gophers, starlings, etc. The 9mm Flobert ones are much better than .22 LR though I've never seen a lever-action variant in 9mm Flobert.
>>64562481I’d wish they’d scale that design up to actual shotgun sizes. 12 gauge is probably too big, but 16 or 20 might be kino. As far as I know, the only examples of 12 gauge lever guns are 1887 clones and turkshit.
>>64562915I think one of the only reasons why the .410's exist is because 95% of the gun was borrowed from a rifle cartridge. They kinda suck even if you're into .410s. None of them are chambered for 3in shells, and they're kinda heavy which is pretty stupid for a .410. I think it's possible to make a decent .410 levergat but it would need to be a clean sheet design.
>>64562481Garden guns are generally for snooting birds that are eating fruits on trees etc without causig too much damage, or snakes in a building to avoid richocets and have their use in stuff like 9mm flobert. 22 ratshit is very marginal stuff on anything bigger than a mouse and I would not trust it on an aggressive snake which are suprisingly hard to kill. The rest of them, I just don't know, toys really or for markets where shotguns are more easy to cell than centrefire rifles and they can be used for slugs
>>64562969Best form for a 410 is just a simple side by side boxlock if you have use for one.
>>64562915Why teh fuck bother when reliable semi autos have now been around for 40 years and the ones aroud fro the alst 20 years eat and shoot anything from super mags to dove shot. Same for pumps, just retarded for retarded sake which is fine but it's got zero reaosn to be. All of these reek of legal restriction avoidance on either centrefirerifles or semi auto shotguns, probably for shitholes like Australia or the UK
Shooting 45-70 or revolver rounds out of a rifle
>>64563005Agreed about the side-by-side, though I wouldn't turn down a sidelock. IMHO a .410 is an expert's gun, nothing wrong with it being very nice. Though to be honest if ever win the lottery and end up ordering a fancypants shotty, it's going to be a 20 or 28.
there’s only one good lever action shotgun in my humble opinion
>>64562481fun
>>64562492eat shit
>>64562915>>64562969.410 shotshells are the same size as .45LC so these likely use their .45LC stuff, though it's a different stock and lever on the steel for some reason
>>64563015>Same for pumps,pumps are usually super cheep compared to anything other than single shots and tfbtv has said the vast majority of mossberg's sales at this point are on retarded meme shotguns and not hunting shotguns.it's why all those shotgun companies keep doing paid vids for their semi auto tacticool meme shotgun shit and why no one ever relaced winchester or remingshit in the shotgun market.
>>64563143The rim diameter is similar but there's no way they're using mostly pistol parts because it has much too short of a stroke to chamber the much longer shotshell. The extractor or the bolt head might be the same as .45LC but the rest of the gun is not.
Just get a .45-70 and shoot .410s through it. Much easier.
>>64563015Because click-clack.
>>64563015why spend a billion dollars on a good semi auto shotgun when you can get a maverick 88 for $275?>inb4 turkshitno
>>64563764based on the way they marketed them and that james reeves comment about most mossbergs being sold being the retarded meme models I'm assuming it's just retards who want>muh combat shotgunmav 88 is probably good enough for 99% of HD scenarios
>>64563102Nice 1895.
>>64562481Close-range birdshotter for pest control (or buckshotter for anything slightly larger) in your backyard, look up garden guns.
>>64564041thank you
>>64563645best reason I suppose but letting the bolt cock and release on a semi auto is pretty good click clack too
>>64563121you eat shit anon
>>64562513>cucknations where pumps are outlawedWhat is even the point of that? It just comes across as petty fun-policing at that point
>>64569138you first. eat shit, tranny >>64570166the people writing the laws are retards. go read the 1994 AWB like 90% of the guns listed were specifically used in 1980s action movies. I remember reading some gun control law that names the G11 by name as a banned gun
>>64570166>>64570400Weapon laws are never "what makes sense" even in the insane demon mind of a gun grabber.They are always, and only, "what can I get away with banning at this very second"Every rule designed by an enemy is designed in bad faith. Stop pretending that anti gunners are "humans" like you who are just misinformed about what's "reasonable".
>>64570166someone got scared when a bad guy in a movie used a pump-action shotgun>>64573403A lot of antis act in bad faith, but there's a huge number of them who are simply stupid sheeple reacting to their feefees and/or following what someone said on TV or FaceTweet. Of course the former are more dangerous but the latter outnumber them 10:1.>>64570400The Canadians recently banned picrel by name even though it's an entirely unique gun, only one prototype exists.
>>64575844Didn't that list include black rifle coffee? like the drink?
>>64575844>call it sound master>its not going in the pee-hole
>>64575878>mfw I'm smugglin' grounds in my hog crank case to leafylandia
>>64562513My dad's old break-action flobert garden gun couldn't break the side of a soda can with rat shot. Maybe a good butterfly gun
>>64576617>good butterfly gunPersonally, I feel that butterfly assassins are the lowest form of degeneracy thinkable. Right up there with sticking a pin in them, but worse!