Last thread of photos from my summer trip to Japan, here it's time for the Yushukan ("Place to commune with noble souls"), a museum right next door to and run by the Yasakuni shrine. It covers Japan's history, with a heavy focus on the military side, from around the Meiji restoration and up until the latter parts of WW2. Most of it is simply signs and poster with written information and some illustrations, which may not be the most exciting thing (unless you want to see the far rightmost flank of Japanese politics try and put one hell of a spin on things, because sweet Ammy do they ever), but they also have some artefacts worth a look.Now I hadn't planned on visiting, as I had been there both in 2013 and 2016, and back then you were only allowed to photograph out in the main foyer. But when flight delays gave me some extra time to kill I ended up dropping by, and somehow this temple of conservatism had decided to now also allow photography in the main exhibition hall, which is where all the WW2 artefacts are on display. Now my main camera had been left with my luggage in the hotel, but hopefully you'll agree that my small walkaround&backup camera is reasonably competent as well.Starting out in the foyer, here's the Type 0 carrier-based fighter, specifically the A6M5 Model 52 version, which was the most produced one.
Zero seat.
Model 89 15cm cannonDug out from a cave on Okinawa, where it had been used by the 100th Independent Heavy Artillery Battalion.
Some wear and tear.
Model 96 15cm howitzerAlso last used on Okinawa
Great bread.I'm interested in seeing the placards they have for these, they probably have photos of each from the war.
That wear and tear is super cool.Thanks for posting anon.
>>64570386>Most of it is simply signs and poster with written information and some illustrations, which may not be the most exciting thing (unless you want to see the far rightmost flank of Japanese politics try and put one hell of a spin on things, because sweet Ammy do they ever)oh dear.I wanted to go there and read them because I thought there might be additional Jap-centric info but that would certainly put me off>Starting out in the foyer, here's the Type 0an iconic feature of the Yushukan, I've heardlooking forward for morethis year is supposed to be their big bash due to the 80th anniversary of V-J
>>64570386>unless you want to see the far rightmost flank of Japanese politics try and put one hell of a spin on things, because sweet Ammy do they everplease post some
>>64570541Well, off the top of my memory they were greatly admiring of Russian tank crews who stayed in their burning, wrecked tanks to burn to death shouting "For Stalin!" and such instead of bailing out. They also made a big deal of how the Japanese territorial gains of WW2 helped light the flame of independence in the regiosn they took over, resulting in the psot-WW2 decolonisation of south east Asia. Now why exactly their presence resulted in such sentiment, well, they kinda just skip past that one. Also IIRC towards the end of WW2 there plenty of talk of bravery and noble sacrifice and such, but it once again gets rather light on the details of how exactly things were going with the war overall there.
>>64570522There's not that much in the way of in-the-field photos, and most of the artefacts on display is stuff excavated after the war, meaning anyone who may have been there with a cameras was likely took his camera with him to the afterlife instead of the photos being preserved for our benefit.
Logistics logistics logistics...Class C56 steam locomotive, used during the construction of the Thai-Burma railway (you may start whistling now), and after that in Thailand in general during the war.
Nice stuff, thank you. You ever been to Hamamatsu air museum?
And we're off to the main exhibition hall. Passing by a room with some old swords and armour along the way, but no photography allowed there. Sham,e they had a neat ginsui-to, and a comically oversized (presumably ceremonial) tanto, amongst other things.Yokosuka D4Y1 Suisei. Very fast and agile for a dive bomber, it could outrun both the F4F and the Zero. Also saw use for reconnaissance and as a night fighter.
>>64570617No, but that may well change some day.
Atsuta Model 21 engine, a license built DB601 version. Used in the early Suisei models, amongst others. Good performance, but questionable reliability even before you start adding jagged holes where the engineers didn't see the need for any.
>>64570647that looks like a night-sight protruding from the cockpitdid you get any info on that?
>>64570718It’s an optic for aiming the guns/dive-bombing.
Kaiten Model 1 Kaiichi, on permanent loan form the US Army Museum in HawaiiAs perhaps another illustration of the museums leanings (since such were requested), I'll quote a bit form the sign:>Using this desperate weapon that was named in the meaning of "It change a situation of the world completely and reverse the war situation" more than 100 young people tried to defend the mother country with their own bodies, and one after another they died in the South Seas.They certainly seem to have had great hopes for it.
>>64570718It's a form of gun sight we see every now and then, mostly on pre-war designs. Many a Fokker D.XX for example has it. Japan appears to have been a bit slow to phase it out.
Middle section of a Kaiten Model 4. An upgraded version that didn't see any use before the end of the war, about six built.
>>64570722>>64570734damnbit of a disappointment>>64570725>100 young people tried to defend the mother country with their own bodies, and one after another they died in the South Seasthat's not too bad
Hull's about 35cm greater in diameter than the previous models.
Type 93 Model 3 Torpedo, sans fireworks bit.The first oxygen torpedo, the "long lance" was coined by US Navy historian Samuel Eliot Morison after the war.From what I've understood it took quite a few of their ships exploding for no apparent reason before US naval intelligence started to entertain the idea that perhaps Japan had a torpedo with greater range than any of the US ones.
Type 41 Mountain gun, this specific one saw use in New Guniea.
Launcher for the Type 4 200mm rocket. This specific one was used on Iwo Jima.
And the rocket itself.
Model 96 25mm machine gun (yes, the IJN had their own ideas about what counts as a machine gun).Retrieved in 1968 from a navy AA-site on Rabaul.
Model 92 heavy machine gun
Shell and casing for a Model 4 15cm howitzer.
Type 97 medium tank, last used by the 9th tank regiment on Saipan.
Model 88 7.5cm field anti-aircraft gun. Brought back from New Guinea in 1971.
Navy model 3 8cm high-angle gun, also last used on New Guinea.
Hi KM, do you upload pics to Wiki Commons?>lic. CC BY-SA 4.0 or CØ
Large naval shell, sign's in Japanese (and has no numbers) so the details escape me.>>64570953Nope.
Model 3 14cm 50cal gun, salvaged from Mutsu where it was part of the casemate secondary battery.
According to the illustration on the sign this would be the foremost casemate gun on the starboard side.
>>64570386Been there a few years back and it was pretty dope. Nice pics OP.
Replica Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka rocket plane. No landing gear needed, you'll land right at Yasakuni regardless.
>>64570965how did you get around Japan without using Google Translate?although in this case Translate says this is a replica of a "195mm Musashi naval shell weighing 1.4 tons" which makes no sense
A not so great angle to see it from back in the war.
>>64571004>how did you get around Japan without using Google Translate?nta but you can learn the language, at least the basics
>>64571004Subway nand train stations have English language signs where I was, some meals ordered just on sight, every convini checkout showing you the total cost with numbers and the yen sign... And frankly in Tokyo you get quite far with English, Moscow&St Petersburg were noticeably behind there.
Sword blade by Sukekane of the Shinshinto Bizen, forged in August of 1866. Returned to Japan by an Australian priest who worked to reconcile Australia and Japan after the war, for example by returning the belongings of Japanese soldiers to their families. In this case the family couldn't be found, and so the sword was given to Yasakuni instead.
Tanto blade forged out of metals smelted from ore collected on Guadacanal, created at the request of a Japanese veteran's organisation for those who had been involved in the battles there.
>>64570428No padding or other cushion? That looks very uncomfortable.
>>64571100They used the parachute pack as cushion
Last out, not really part of the museum but found nearby: a gun form the Russian frigate Diana, wrecked off of Shimoda in 1854.Customary zip archive of it all: https://www.mediafire.com/file/vc0aiwp1mv0zz56/Japan_-_Yushukan_2025.zip/filePrevious archives: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4v4c0uwexuyo7/My+PhotographsSo that's all from this year's trip to Japan. More photos to follow in the coming weeks/months, as I've already been on another (somewhat shorter) trip.
that's it?doesn't seem to be many exhibits
>>64570725Holy shit, I saw that in the background of one of the Judy photos and thought "no way that's a Kaiten." I can't believe any survived the war, desu.
>>64570848>slightly deformed>baseball-sized hole in the casingI see the Japanese share the British knack for understatement.
>>64571107Sometimes, in a rather severe case of boys will be boys, leaving the straps to actually connect the parachute to themselves at home, thus leaving the parachute as a fancy cushion and nothing but a fancy cushion.>>64571125Yeah, it's not a massive amount. As I said, it's mostly text they have to show. Plus, photography of the older arms&armour wans't allowed, and I passed on photographing the scale models and the large pile of assorted personal equipment they have on display in "as excavated"-condition.
>>64571107I'll be damned, that's actually a clever system. Not sure it really would have been much more comfortable, but still clever.
>>64570495Any artillery experts able to tell me the difference between these two shells? I assume the one on the left is HE, that's what I think of HE shells as looking like.
>>64571157>older arms&armour>large pile of assorted personal equipment they have on display in "as excavated"-conditionoo what was there?
>>64571166Used in basically every fighter and similar at the time IIRC.>>64571189In the former case there was a few swords, armours and polearms. I don't quite remember more specifically beyond the gensui-to and tanto already mentioned.In the latter case you have an assortment or helmet,s water bottles, bayonets, cooking utensils, ammo clips, boots, etc. Basically take a Japanese infantry unit, bomb it dead, wait two decades and change, and then sweep up whatever still exists.
>>64571166>cleverI'm not sure I'd be happy sitting on my chute for hours and hours
>>64571128Various, actually. A model 10 kaiten (a later series) is on display at Kure, another Kaiten is displayed at one of the former kaiten training bases, but i forgot the name of the place.
>>64570965>軍艦「武蔵」主砲弾(模造)It's a replica of a shell for the Musashi's main cannons.
>>64570573>they were greatly admiring of Russian tank crews who stayed in their burning, wrecked tanks to burn to death shouting "For Stalin!" and such instead of bailing out.lmao
>>64570718>>64570734It's a type 2 model 1 computing telescopic divebombing sight. There's a good thread about it on the ww2aircraft forum. The "bulb" at the front houses the articulated colimating prism.
>>64571110thanks anon, i don't frequent /k/ so it's a very nice thread for me. would anyone mind if i dumped my micromuseum pics some other day? dunno if that would be considered shitting up the board
>>64571767Nah, we love museum image dumps. You may not get much thread engagement, but it's always worth sharing cool pics.
>>64571035>Moscow & St Petersburgwent there for a short holiday 7 years ago, the 2,5 sentences of french i remembered from childhood holidays got me further than English or pointing and mimingmy favorite kind of reaction to not speaking Russian was angry looks and them pointing at russian signs
>>64570642Suisei, my beloved. Such a cool plane. Thanks for the pics! I really wish a B5N or D3A survived. Japanese torpedo/bomber planes are some of my favorites.
>>64571157>leaving the parachute as a fancy cushion and nothing but a fancy cushion.Reminds me of something tangentially related in Derek Robinson's "A Good Clean Fight"
>>64571533>vacuum cocklulz
>>64570386based museumanon
>>64571901got it, thanks anon
>>64570522Took some pics of the plaques when I was there.
Excellent post anon thanks for the effort
>>64570711>>64570706>>64570704If I were a gearhead I might look into building a working replica Sakae engine.They're an interesting case of uconventional methods for powerboosting a military engine.Also the Japanese miliota and teikokuboos seem to think of the Sakae engine as "the masterpiece" engine.
>>64571004It's 195 cm and is referring to the projectile height, not the caliber.
>>64573196>>64571004I have to say, it didn't seem all that big in person. The display shells on board the USS New Jersey appeared rather beefier. I wonder if it's not quite to full scale, or if the whole thing is just another illustration of how utterly unreliable "it seems to be..." is (at least in my case) for size.
>>64570573Japan, for a time, was a hotbed and host for pan-asianist ideals and thinking since other nations at the time were colonized not under national rule. Japan used to support these movements but also had its own adjacent idea of also ruling these countries/colonies. Japan used these reasons to take over places like China, Philippines, Dutch colonies, French Indochina, etc. While many populaces, especially Indonesia were accepting of the idea of removing European nations as colonial powers, Japan proved itself to be yet another naughty colonizer. Which is why many guerrilla groups such as the ones ran by Mao Zedong and Ho Chi Minh fought the japs and saw assistance from the US and other Western nations.Although the Indonesians had a lot of assistance of former japanese troops in their Independence movement after WWII. >>64570386Is this the museum that has the questionable placards with japanese revisionism?
>>64574400>Is this the museum that has the questionable placards with japanese revisionism?Yes, some of those were what I was trying to retell form memory in the other post of mine that you replied to there.
>>64574400Japan beating Russia during the Russo-Japanese War broke the image of the invincible European among SEAians. Here is an Asian country that defeated a Western power. This became the rallying cry of nationalists around the region. Unfortunately, the Japs squandered this goodwill when they treated SEAians even worse than the Europeans. Letting the Imperial Jap Army run wild was a mistake by their government and it was what led them to war with the US in the first place. >Although the Indonesians had a lot of assistance of former japanese troops It was not actual assistance, more of the Japs sulking at the surrender and basically piling the weapons out in the open and saying not my problem. They were later dragooned and rearmed by the British to keep the peace until the Dutch returned.
only real thread on /k/
>>64574400>>64574431>Is this the museum that has the questionable placards with japanese revisionism?tl;dr yesThe shrine and the museum attached to it are privately owned by a religious entity that enshrines people who died defending the country. Originally, it did not enshrine class A war criminals, but their head priest in 1978 decided to do so to discredit Tokyo trials. Even since then, no Japanese Emperor visited it, although they did previously. Because of this, it became a holy site of sort for nationalists and ultra right wingers since then. But them, along with Japan War-Bereaved Families Association, have grown to be quite influential in the political scene. Conservative leaning politicians cannot ignore the support from them, so they visit the shrine even though they know that it might upset Koreans and Chinese. For example, Koizumi back in 2001 visited the shrine in order to garner support from them, which did upset the Asians, but won the election. This became so controversial even among the Japanese people that, at one point in late 2000s, the government attempted to negotiate with the shrine to "move" the war criminals out of the shrine, which outright got refused for religious reasons. The Japanese government quite literally can't do shit because of its quite liberal and lenient constitutions, and the still need the votes. Naturally, this kind of movement has died out because it affects the votes.
>>64570858The chud phenotype even down to clothing transcends races
Yasukuni Shrine is Japan's containment board.>>64576109It's people who can'd hold themselves together, and see this external force or idea as a potential guiding light, not only for themselves but also for the whole society.>>64575348>a religious entityfrom Wiki:"Yasukuni Shrine has been privately funded and operated since 1946, when it was elected to become an individual religious corporation, independent of the Association of Shinto Shrines."Interesting, I assumed it would be Shinto, but I didn't expect it to be *formally* disconnected from other Shrines."The museum and website of the Yasukuni Shrine have made statements criticizing the United States for 'convincing' the Empire of Japan to launch the attack on Pearl Harbor"OMEGALULUgly Bastard Hentai doujin raping the girl: "This is your fault for being so sexy!"
>>64571235You're sitting on your poop chute right now
>>64576146>independent of the Association of Shinto Shrines.">Interesting, I assumed it would be Shinto, but I didn't expect it to be *formally* disconnected from other Shrines.All shrines are Shinto. Though some other big shrines, like the Fushimi Inari Taisha at Kyoto or the Toshogu at Nikko also aren't members of the Association of Shinto shrines or Jinja Honcho, along with various smaller shrines. That association is, as far as i know, merely an organization that helps the member shrines coordinating their activities, their PR, everyday affairs, and so on, but it's not a religious institution that defines "right" or "wrong" Shinto. (which would be difficult anway, since there is no central religious text like the bible that defines "right" Shinto.")
Just finished playing Tengaidoes the Yasukuni shrine have any cute/hot shrine maidens?
>>64570386>(unless you want to see the far rightmost flank of Japanese politics try and put one hell of a spin on things, because sweet Ammy do they ever)Yes please!>perhaps, might we Japanese end up doing the same thing?
>>64576146>"The museum and website of the Yasukuni Shrine have made statements criticizing the United States for 'convincing' the Empire of Japan to launch the attack on Pearl Harbor"I'd say they aren't entirely wrong, but something tells me what was actually said was likely entirely wrong.
>>64570642looks like a p40
>>64578256>looks like a p40I mean if you squint, and have cataracts, then maybe in a poor light
>>64570474Failed thermite chargers, or defects from pooring?
>>64578313Normally you'd place the thermite in the chamber.
>>64578313Probably shell splinter impacts from counter-battery fire
>>64570386Ahh, the Japanese Fascist Museum. Loved it, food is decent for museums standards and the staff kind.Just askin', there are any more Japanese military museums focused on "recent history"? I heard there's the museums down in Kure with the Yamato pieces and several Self-Defense force "museums" to motivate recruitment, but it seems limited compared to European or American offerings. Does the public truly dislike the genre or there's something I'm missing? /trv/ was useless in helping (the only thing they're knowledgeable about is banging chinese hookers).
>>64570454>>64570474>>64570711With authentic battle damage!
>>64578509>Does the public truly dislike the genre or there's something I'm missing?They don't like having to address awkward questions
>>64570386Looks like a good time. The first zero is really cool to see and looks to be kept in great condition. Thanks for sharing anon.
>>64578509>Does the public truly dislike the genreWouldn't you?>or there's something I'm missing?Most nations not the US after WW2 were really impoverished and struggling to put their country back together, so there wasn't much money for artifacts to be preserved in museum condition. A lot of stuff that exists today even in West Europe is only there because they were used in the subsequent decades.>only thing they're knowledgeable about is banging chinese hookers).Do tell
