What's it like being in a small but elite military like what the Baltic states have? Is it more /comfy/ than being in a larger military? Do they do a lot more infantry drills and exercises?
i'm just going to assume that small countries are poor and don't invest much in their military.
>no deployments>no training exercises>no ammo for training>weapons are beat to shit and barely work>meagre fleet of vehicles made from cannibalised parts from other vehicles because no one can get replacement parts>fuel regularly siphoned and all valuable equipment is stolen or sold>spend days doing pointless busywork like painting rocks and sweeping>don't get paid some months because the government is so dysfunctionalEvery small country's army is like this. Sadly the special forces guys are usually around as motivated as first world soldiers but stuck with their shitty circumstances. The most they can look forward to is a training exercise with a big country like France or the UK or US
>>64572514I don't think any of that applies to the baltics.
>>64572514Ukraine is a fairly small military and yet it's very well equipped and elite. Not as small as the baltics obviously but still, not every country is ran like Russia, the Estonian military is probably very well-supplied and trained.
>>64572528dude ukraine since 2022 grew to be one the largest most experienced militaries currently existing ofc there probably going to be a large demobilization after the war like with the us army after ww2
>>64572545>there probably going to be a large demobilization after the warUnlikely, Ukraine will either need a large military in case Russia tries something again (assuming Russia still exists) or more likely will need to keep its large military around to occupy whatever parts of Russia it ends up annexing after pushing into their territory. Either way I don't see Ukraine ever decreasing military spending, if anything they could use reparations from Russia to keep up military spending.
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>>64572528conscripts by definition are not elite
>>64572695Ukraine only has conscription on paper, in practice most of the conscripts are volunteers.
>>64572711cool story broconscript kidnapping.webm
>>64572714>conscript kidnapping.webmYou mean that video of the Russians doing that exact thing? Yeah, we've all seen it.
>>64572715He means the russian spies getting picked up by Ukie police and FSB. Vatniks spun the story and said that those are conscripts being press ganged in.
>>64572689Yeah, most of those are indeed make-believe armies.I wish we left them to their fate.
>>64572720given the amount of videos out there then for what you say to be true ukraine must have more russian spies in it than oxygen molecules at this point.
>>64572519There's nothing 'elite' about the baltics, literally 100% of people from there who can, move to nordic countries or western europe and the only they thing they contribute is organised crime. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania are crumbling poorfag soviet shiholes like the Czech republic, Poland, Romania etc.Look at the soldier in the pic>shit-tier FLC vest>serpa crossdraw holster>big smersh flapped pouchesThe standard infantry rifle in Estonia is a fucking Galil with iron sights, literally on par with a Soviet conscript 50 years ago.Literally identical to the Burkina Faso guy who goes to press conferences dressed in chinese larp gear
>>64572715You slavs love "whataboutism" so much it is unreal. Like a woman.
>>64572451Based on that vest, I'd say it's pretty grim
>>64572528This is the most fanatical cope
>>64572883butthurt russian/commieboo spotted
>>64572883Its an NFM bear vest, an older design but used by a bunch of not-poor euro countries like Norway and Denmark. Flapped pouches were not invented by Sposn, and are preferable in countries with harsh winters. Their service rifle has been a gucci AR for like half a decade.
>>64572952cool now explain why the whole of estonia looks like pic relI've been there, it's a miserable snowy shithole full of women wearing headscarves boiling stew in pots. They have nothing in common with Germans or Norwegians or English, and are visually indistinguishable from literal Russians in the Russian Federation.
>>64572451Being elite anything sucks. It’s such hard work.
>>64572451Their military is not elite in any way, shape or form.
>>64573023Depends on who you're comparing them to. Maybe not elite compared to the US but certainly compared to Russia or China.
>>64572528>he Estonian military is probably very well-supplied and trained.Not really, they're tiny and have barely any resources in account of the Baltic States having really small populations and equally diminutive economies. They exist a formality to dissuade the drunk rapist next door.
>estonian army
>>64572996>boiling stew in potssorry we don't cook it in microwaves here in Europe, like you "Americans"
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>>64572996whats wrong with stew???
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>>64572451I heard Estonians will straight up eat two loaves of bread and call it a meal.
>>64573053oh yeah we allow small amount of conscripts into the EOG
>>64573041>>64573050It's just the stereotype that comes to mind. He wasn't dissing soup or soup making.
>>64573057That's all of Europe. That's why they're emaciated, they have an incredibly low protein diet over there
>>64573074dunno manits a weird point to bring out, was he refused soup here or what and now holds a grudge
>>64573042>>64573049>>64573053The first descriptor that comes to mind when seeing their females is "handsome."
>>64573074they obviously don't speak English well enough to understand it was supposed to be painting imagery in the reader's head.
>>64572996Did you get cucked by an Estonian or something or why are you so butthurt?
>>64573090kek
>>64572996Isn't their population still like 30% Russian too?
>>64573106I think they pretend not to understand, simply so it gives them a chance to bitch about Americans, again.
>>64573140It is a useful way to identify genuine seething euros, as opposed to other types of sub humans pretending to be euros
>>64573041I'm not American you stupid fuck.>>64573042>>64573049kek they look exactly like ugly slavsYou see pic rel sweeping floors in your average retail outlet in Sweden
>>64573050If its not Chunky it's junky, bitch
>>64573110>why are you so butthurt?Because you're faggot amerimutt whose great grandfather was probably an estonian immigrant back before it was even part of the USSR, and you're here on 4chan making a whole thread to gas up estonia as if it isn't a poor shithole because it's the only connection you have to 'europe' or being 'white'You're some disgusting mystery meat mutt with curly black hair and eyes as black as coal. You probably say shit like "my mom's sicilian and dad's dominican but my grandfather was actually lithuanian, I've always felt 'european' at heart and I think I identify much more strongly with my northern european roots"
>>64573184Meds. Now
>>64573184>Because you're faggot amerimutt whose great grandfather was probably an estonian immigrant back before it was even part of the USSR, and you're here on 4chan making a whole thread to gas up estonia as if it isn't a poor shithole because it's the only connection you have to 'europe' or being 'white'>You're some disgusting mystery meat mutt with curly black hair and eyes as black as coal. You probably say shit like "my mom's sicilian and dad's dominican but my grandfather was actually lithuanian, I've always felt 'european' at heart and I think I identify much more strongly with my northern european roots"Not him, but post your psychology degree. Way too much for it to not be projection or just beating the absolute shit out of a straw man
>>64572451oh sweet, a USP. I like him
>>64572952>Their service rifle has been a gucci AR for like half a decade.I actually miss my AK4, but that's because I'm a dumbfuck reservistM4 gustav is nice tho
>>64573243>>64573325>y-you're crazyLaziest form of gaslighting imaginableLet's actually break down the OP>What's it like being in a small but elite military like what the Baltic states have?>What's it like being in a small but elite military like what the Baltic states have?It's painfully easy to see OP is an American. The only conception he has of a 'military' is his own military, the US military, which is this gigantic empire comprised of 2 million soldiers, most of whom are low IQ spics and niggers only in it as a federal jobs program.>Is it more /comfy/ than being in a larger military?He has this naive idealised concept of what a 'small military' is like in his head, he probably thinks it's this super patriotic 'spartan culture' organisation full of hardcore white nationalists who are united in their hatred of 'ziggers' or that this 'small military' is like some kind of bastion of uber soldiers where everyone is on par with special forces because they're all so ideologically motivated to be good soldiers.>Do they do a lot more infantry drills and exercises?This is him basically coping. He knows they do zero deployments and there is no possibility of combat but he thinks that boring shit exercises in the field will somehow be fun in this idealised small military he's gassing up in his headFinally, OP wrote about Lithuania because he has a distant relative who was Lithuanian and so he's essentially masterbating to the fantasy of being European by living vicariously through his great great grandfather ivan who left Riga to work on a potato farm in Idaho in 1910.
>>64573074If you love soup so much, why don't you marry soup?
>>64573423You're an annoying faggot.
>>64573423I didn't call you crazy, I'm just having severe doubts of your psychological expertise.
>>64573423You're just throwing out baseless assumptions that are entirely false.
>>64573441>>64573458>>64573465mutts absolutely seething
>>64573497>t. inbred Baltic vatnik rape baby
>>64572695I dunno man, finns and swiss tend to do pretty well in excercises and competitions.
>>64573545wow they do well in the place they live in. sounds familiar.
>>64573564Yeah? They're explicitly focused on defense, not expeditionary capabilities.
>>64573545what competitions?
>>64573585Like the international sniper competition. There are others, but I forget what they're called.
>>64572451Food's better.
>>64573603middle of the pack is doing well?
>>64573612I don't see finnish or swiss teams participating in that one.
>>64573621post the competition you're talking about
>>64572883there's literally nothing wrong with a serpa and I'm tired of pretending there is
>>64573623Maybe I was thinking of this onehttps://www.nato.int/en/news-and-events/articles/nato-stories/2024/01/23/sniper-activity-nato-allies-and-partners-spar-at-the-european-best-sniper-team-competition
>>64573184>>64572996Easy on the krokodil Ivan.
>>64572714>conscript kidnappingwhy do ppl act like this is some unspeakable horror? conscription when you get invaded is the most common thing in the world... it would be weird if they _didnt_ make people fight...
>>64572689blessed poland
>>64572996>ool now explain why the whole of estonia looks like pic relwhat? you thought they would demolish every building the day after independence? retard
>>64572514But enough about Russia
>>64572883>t.
>>64573951Russia unironically makes more artillery shells in one day than your entire military has stockpiled.
>>64573963Can we see them?
>>64573963Russia unironically has more male on male ass rape in a day than my country's history.
>>6457396350% or more of Russia's artillery munitions comes from North Korea
>>64573959>no no no you don't understand my friend>I'm not Russian, I live in Narva, Estonia, a completely different country>we hate Russians so much, we are completely unalike in every way>yes I speak fluent Russian and my parents speak fluent Russian and my father served in the Soviet Army in the 1980s>yes the city I live in was built by the soviets and the Russian border is literally 100 metres away from my house>but I'm not RussianThis is what you sound like
>>64572514That's my daily life and I hate it.
>>64572514Belgium.avi
>>64573978Get cubed
>>64573978how is this different from tiblas seething from cyrpus, georgia or serbia?
Superpower 2030
>>64572514t.
>>64573978Didn't take you long enough to chimpout in your usual feminine way pidorashka.
>>64573038damn i wish i could wash her camo off in the shower...
>>64574005>This is some kind of provocation That's the highest level Russian way to deflect and gaslight
>>64576201Til you realize how disgusting the sex sounds Europeans make are.>ja>ja>ja>o ja>ja>got >jaaaaInsufferable. She is hot though
>>64572451>small but elite military like what the Baltic states havehaha what
>>64572528>Ukraine is a fairly small militarywhat the fuck is this bullshit, they had the second largest army when the war started. the biggest was fucking russia. fuck nu/k/, i'm out.
>>64573042I'm always surprised that women with that dr. pepper "red" hair dye whkavthink it looks good.
>>64577639>whkavthinkTranslation please
>>64577620>he thinks sex sounds boring in other languagesThat's not a cultural thing, that's a skill issue for specific people.
>>64577653No. The height of euro retardation is implying your disgusting sex noises are cultured.
>>64577664>noooo i get to decidenope, you don't, and your opinion has been noted and ignored.
>>64572559This is unbelievably delusional. Russia's going to carve out Ukraine's ass sorry but it was inevitable
>>64572996>Now let me tell you any your country >T. American
>>64577700They won't, it's getting increasingly unlikely with every year.
>>64572996>cool now explain why the whole of estonia looks like pic relBecause of the fucking soviets?Can't speak for the other two but Estonia has their shit together pretty well and soon it will be us going over the pond to work there T:Finn
I love Estonia so much it's unreal.T. fin
>>64577700we are on the 4th year of a "world superpower" vs moldova but with larger population
>>64577620whhahaha what a fuckin faggotcute girl voices always sound nice
>>64572451When ziggers invade in the upcoming war in the baltics then everybody will know everything. Some of them, like Estonia, at least take their defense seriously and have gone for the conscription reserve training model like finland and israel. So they can rapidly bulk up to decent defense force size for their terrain others, like latvia, gave up completely on defending themselves during the iraq/afghan days and abolished reserve training. Leaving only a single battalion of """professionals""" that speak vatnik, not latvian, and are meant to rotate company wise between foreign deployments for the NATO obligations. So now latvia is basically a wide open hole between Estonia and LithuaniaAll three have the advantage of being dismissed and grossly underestimated by literally everyone. Despite the singular wars between them and vatniks in history ending thus far in their favor. While finland up north is perceived to be some impenetrable hyper fortress. when it has a longer land border with ziggers then baltics and about the same body count as the three combinedTL/DR: they have the advantage of the underdog but its fully up to them to stop the initial invasion rush before allies are embarrassed enough to at least provide low risk air cover for them
>>64577700>This is unbelievably delusional. Russia's going to carve out Ukraine's assRussia is in a money fight with the western world. Yesterday morning they spent nearly $100m usd in missiles and drones for a big attack. Consequences:>3 civilians killed, 2 in Kyiv>heating and power cut to five suburbs for six hours >heating and power cut to one suburb for thirty one hoursEvery compatible piece of electrical hardware on the planet has been acquired, bought or donated and is sitting in warehouses outside Ukraine waiting to be transported and installed. The west can afford this as a recurring budget line item.Russia just assigned 1/3 of its budget to war, had to slash social services, doesn't even have the money to fund its budget, has raised taxes and it's revenue streams are exploding every night with each refinery, terminal or depot fire wiping out billions from its budget in repairs and lost income. And Europe has just written their costs into their aid budgets which they can maintain forever. And you think confidence in Russia s defeat is delusional.
>>64578228>others, like latvia, gave up completely on defending themselves during the iraq/afghan days and abolished reserve training. Leaving only a single battalion of """professionals""" that speak vatnik, not latvian, and are meant to rotate company wise between foreign deployments for the NATO obligations. So now latvia is basically a wide open hole between Estonia and LithuaniaFunny how people like to pretend Latvia's still in 2015 whenever discussion of Baltic militaries is brought up.
>>64572528Ukraine has neither a small nor elite military
>>64572528you're welcome for the equipment. the AFU in 2004 is closer to what your ass just said
>>64578586Breh i sometimes see vatniks posting like 2009 pictures. Its funny to see them spend all this money posting on a mongolian basket weaving forum and shitpost on twitter while another cucked zigger gets a drone flown into them.
>>64578578lmao
>>64572870Now you understand the problem. Russians and Ukrainians have been intermingling and coexisting for a very long time. When the proper war started, there were so many pro-Russian people living in Ukraine. Ukraine has the unenviable task of trying to clean out a large amount of traitors and enemy sympathizers in its population.
>>64573090Nope >handsomeis old timey bong for MILF
>>64573423Estonia has a grand total of 7,700 full time active troops in the ArmyBy all metrics, even the European ones, it had an absolutely tiny armyFuck off
>>64573184Unironically go outside dude. For your own sake. Please.
>>64572514>The most they can look forward to is a training exercise with a big country like France or the UK or USUntil '22 anyway. I was at a party last night drinking with this ex-NZ SAS who hadn't handled civilian life very well and had been in Ukraine from the instant that foreigners were invited to come.He's doing assaults full-time and basically loving the suck.
>>64578655>>handsome>is old timey bong for MILFThat's not inaccurate but it's incomplete too.Handsome means beautiful but it excludes pretty, cute, sexy and hot, though not sensual or smouldering. It suggests a robust figure, probably statuesque.There is definitely a slightly masculine edge to a handsome woman. Probably a strong jaw and cheekbones too.
>>64573184>You probably say shit like "my mom's sicilian and dad's dominican but my grandfather was actually lithuanian, I've always felt 'european' at heart and I think I identify much more strongly with my northern european roots"I do this and I say that btw>>64573423>he's essentially masterbating to the fantasy of being European by living vicariously through his great great grandfather ivan who left Riga to work on a potato farm in Idaho in 1910.That's me in fact
>>64577981Yea shit talk Latvia and Lithuania all you want, but leave Estonia out of it! They are our brothers. If push came to shove, we'd most likely be there defending them, because fuck those ziggers, they ain't molesting our Finnic brothers.
>>64579099Imagine if Hungary unfucked themselves and joined in.
>>64579245That's the -ugric part of the family. We don't talk to those relatives anymore after they prostrate themselves to the ziggers. Good as dead to us.
>>64579275>after they prostrate themselves to the ziggersHence the need to unfuck themselves.
>>64573976Just like with the Ukrainians, there's a reason that nations in close proximity to Russia don't like being associated with them. Namely, it's because Russians are fucking mongoloid barbarians who are only good at drinking, raping, murdering, lying, and stealing.
>>64577620German women literally have the sexiest voices on earth, and I say this as an American. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you're gay.
>>64577700>carve out Ukraine's ass
>>64578529Exactly. The sinews of war are money, money, and yet more money. And Russia is fucking BLEEDING money right now, and it's not getting better. It's getting worse, every single day.
>>64578626Goes both ways, there are a metric fuckton of saboteurs in Russia because of the aforementioned ties.
