did anything cool come after fcg9 and he machine gun equiv fmgc9.:I feel like3D PRINTING DID NOT ACTUALLY CHANGE SHITyeah bro just-buy barrel-buy bcg-buy pistonsI mean sure can do that, but in a way you could do that b4 just buying p2p.... If you want to do a crime you can also just swap the barrel unless you leave the gun at the scene nothing will happen and if they find the gun on you you lost either way . Sure its cool to bypass the 3d waiting period and not have it linked o your name but you could easily achieve this before.It feels gay and sorta just a more based version of redditors priting figurines and useless shit. Yes its cool but don't act like it liberated us much. I guess you can print some things that send you to jail in regards to uhhhhmmm "fire select" lets say if you get me but you could also sorta make these parts pre-3d printing era with hardware store equip.So:- did someone actively put in effort into producing BCGs lets say or pistons or any metal parts that are sorta difficult to mill?- At what stage are home + affordable CNC's (nobody spending 3k on a ghostgunner lol if you can just buy an used ar and swap barrels)?or anything thats like 0% builds not just lowers n shit. Yeah suppressors are cool too but cmon. I know ppl were making 22 bcgs fully plastic for ar platform BUT its 22 so cmon.
>he doesn't own a 3d metal printer
>>64574404Jungle people in Myanmar figured it out, I’m sure we could over here if it came down to it.
>>64574404>3D PRINTING DID NOT ACTUALLY CHANGE SHITWell yeah. The printers that people can afford produce parts that are too weak and have too shitty of a surface finish to do anything really groundbreaking with. That should have been obvious to anyone who has seen a 3D printed part.
>have steel>have a filewe need to go back
The biggest advances that 3D printing brings to the niche hobby of guns is largely cloisteted to sub-niches within the hobby. If you're Joe Average and have a couple grand a year to spend on whatever guns you want then year there's probably not a ton there for you, the consumer grade market should satisfy you. But between experimental stuff and >>64574436 there's plenty of utility in being able to do things that otherwise wouldn't be feasible>inb4 metal shopYou can print and assemble a 3D printed gun in a studio apartment
3D printing metals have improved suppressors, 3D printed plastic simply is too weak versus injection molded glass reinforced nylons and any serious manufacturer is gonna have at least a 80-100 ton press for molding.
What if instead of 3d printing the part, you 3d printed the tools to make the part.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cNeAOpR-Ws
>>64574599Another video about this process:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxzqkhmcRlY
>>64574599That kind of thing is the real strength of current 3D printing technology. 3D printing patterns for investment casting is another great use for it. You can also 3D print molds and use those for compression-molding composite parts--carbon fiber or fiberglass.>>64574609You can make dies like that out of wood too. People should not be closed-minded and think of new VS old methods. Pick and choose the best of BOTH.
3D printing will be a game-changer only when one can make pressure-bearing components at home. Barrels, bolts, and cases. And also propellant and primers. receivers, handguards, grips, stocks, etc are trivial to make, they’re not really guns. That’s probably never gonna happen unless we get some cool metal 3D printing tech like the xenonite printer from Project Hail Mary.
>>64574735They don't just have to be strong enough to bear pressure. They *also* need to be smooth enough that pivots, pins, sears, plungers, slides, locking lugs, etc can function without friction jamming things up and without wearing itself out quickly.
>It feels gay and sorta just a more based version of redditors priting figurines and useless shit.what do you actually want? whats your desire?
>>64574826Hah, yeah, the precision and capability bar to clear is much higher. Though I guess most every part of the gun, except for the barrel, can be made with a CNC + 3D printer. So it’s a matter of, what, putting a 5 axis desktop mill into everyone’s hands? Idk if I’d call that homemade though. Anything is homemade if I define a manufacturing floor as my home lol. There’s also the learning curve that probably can’t be above a certain threshold, because then it’s no longer true that any idiot can fabricate whatever at home. If you need a degree to use the device, it doesn’t really count.
>>64574599This is what I'm doing, 3print tools like. 3d printed jigs
>>64574735Rogue 9, ecm and hydraulic tubing takes care of the barrel and the bolt is machined from bar stock using printed jigs and hand drills. Ammo is always the sticking point because even if you can form casings and primers, making smokeless powder and priming compound is not really garage chemistry.
>>64574404I had a hobby shop with a lathe, mill, surface grinder and heat treatment ovens to do a full, proper semi-auto gun if I wanted for decades.I saw 3d print meme about making guns and laughed at it, also kind of didn't understand it because I had all the tools to make proper guns and they're quite accessible.Like sure it's maybe 20k$ worth of equipment and you need to hunt it down used and you need to fix things yourself but you could cheapskate and do it for less than half if you wanted to.The problem is not the unavailability of tools. That's not why people don't make more guns themselves.No the problem is people are generally retarded. Only a tiny elite of people is smart enough to make guns, and those people are also smart enough to just go and buy one.Unless it's a gun you can't buy and then you get the rare chad like WA2000 anon who builds a WA2000 from scratch because he can.
>>64575142>Hello atf, yes this is the anon
>bobo
op here>>64574422tell me more anon>>64574436they use fgc9 cool, i know this exists as well. Or do they actually make meta carriers>>64574542they are quite strong desu, it actually got sooooo much better I have to admit that much. And I mean fgc9 does exist and work and ppl run hundreds of rounds trough it and the metal parts are quite few and kinda ghetto fused with plastic.>>64574559in a way
op here >>64574571well yes, I mean if you don't have a record ... and a well paying job and no bitchwife that drains your 7 credit car funding an oxy addiction on the side and type 2 diabetes You can do looooooootsaaaa very funny shit even outside the US. I know collectors/"specialists" in Finland , Germany and Czech rep who b playin with crap that would get even some insane burger gunnut wet. But in a way its sort of completely irrelevant to anyone except a very small niche with often yeah unlim resources...connections and money. >You can print and assemble a 3D printed gun in a studio apartmentwym , like fgc or some 80% build ? Like essentially I'm asking for things cooler than an fgc that do NOT simply build on the fact you can buy partkits for nearly everything. like>build ak>simply buy this 600 shekl ak "parts kit"(it can be done cheaper but i think you get me)
>>64576153>7 credit car*cards*>>64574599>>64574609very interesting anon. Thanks for sharing this. Though this is sorta focused on sheets and can make for lotsa cool parts But bcg and slides and your barrel and co sorta gotta be rock solid (well ppl do "skeletonize" some parts of their guns the starting material was pretty fucking solid shit)>>64574671I thought about this, I wonder what goes into making a cast ... and how precise you can really get. Judging by the shit a friend of mine cast you'd still need to do a shitload of "postprocessing" . I wonder if you can unironically use a hand file and or powertools to get it into a state good enough to neither blow up or jam/fail to cycle.>>64574735Tl;Dr my take(a man can dream)
>>64576156>>64576153If you think you're so cool, then do it better yourself. Meanwhile I will buy parts kits for my printed receiver and frames.
Can those print in place primer-only cartridges cycle a plastic blowback slide?
>>64575142>WA2000you mean this guy. Damn that indeed is sexyhttps://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/my-walther-wa2000.7082906/
>>64576176>https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/my-walther-wa2000.7082906/no anon, hes a 4chan Chad.he made his in 300 winmag. maybe we can summon him
>>64576171borin shit,yeah sure its cool but its just larp.sure sure I'm very much against playin the cuck bg check route ...not cuz i wanna but cuz I can.... chad whatever yes I agreebut like its not gonna change shit .. what point r u even trying to make "haha lol look at me I do this thing thats old news and have no dreams n ambitions beyond">Why invent a car when u got a horse >>64576171>then do it better yourselfNah don't care enough also I can afford dropping 40k of a preban m16 if you get a bad deal?! I got nothing to spend money on and I don't wanna buy property here. Maybe ima go the SOT/FFL route. Not sure if I can cuz only got Lawful perma redsidency not a real citizen but other than that I believe it shoudl be do able gotta check once more ig .
>>64576174whats print in place? And why would you do that like can't you just decap or buy blanks? I know a primer delivers a little bit more blast then expected shot a decapped 9mm with only the primer once . It can't cycle a berreta but im sorta convinced it can move the plastic >>64576184>no anon, hes a 4chan Chad.>he made his in 300 winmag.>maybe we can summon himthat be awesome niggy. Though i lowkey feel hes to chad for us im prolly gonna give the fbi my fingerprints soon ................. Im forever banned from entering oilfiltertopia
>>645744043D printing always has been and will remain a shitty method of fabrication for anything. Just fabricate things how they're meant to be fabricated. Get the real machines to make those pieces. It's not hard, a gun can be made in a garage. You just have to do it right, not try to take some easy way out.
>>64576346maybe
>>64576156>I wonder if you can unironically use a hand file and or powertoolsWhy are you "wondering"? That is exactly how guns were made before modern machinery. The main parts (other than the barrel) were cast or perhaps forged with a hammer and anvil to a rough shape which was then finished by hand-filing. Every gun made prior to the industrial revolution was made like that.
>>64574404You are the dumbest gayest nigger goyim. Holy shit stop breathing.
>>64578209wow thanks for the bump
>>64576257>whats print in place? You print the case and projectile together as a single part>And why would you do that like can't you just decap or buy blanks? Because primers are a lot cheaper and I use my brass for my real guns.>I know a primer delivers a little bit more blast then expected shot a decapped 9mm with only the primer once . It can't cycle a berreta but im sorta convinced it can move the plasticSo if a printed a plastic PPK or something with a plastic slide, would it explode or would it work or would it fail to cycle?
