Lmao
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>>64574747>>64574748>>64574755Two possible takes on this :- this is a white elephant, let it be so it will suck up resources while only ever be used for PR.- let's sink it just to prove we can do it and Iran cannot do a thing about it, both eliminating a possible mild threat while also dealing a PR blow.
>>64574772Yes, we must bomb it for Isr-our freedoms.
>>64574772I think its a white elephant They have like 7 of these converted ships
isn't that just an oil tanker painted in navy grey?
>>64574780Yes but with a helicopter deck
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>>64574775Or just 'cause we can.Really, there's very little hope of Iran ever having a friendly or even not hostile view on the West.So if the dog's barking and trying to bite at you even when you bring him treats, might as well have fun spraying it with shit.
>>64574807Can we bomb their drone carrier
this thing will sink on its own
>>64574810This guy might have the right answer >>64574811Otherwise, who is "we" ?
>>64574747another turd world white elephant
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>>64574815Uhh....we
this is very smart>>64567298Iran owns like 70% of all tankers. This is a very low cost way to figure out what works for mild weaponization of their tankers. Its like Ye Day of Olde when every merchant Galley had a few guns. Most of the time you wouldn't even carry a full load of guns, but you could, to create FUD.Lots of reasons to have a nice big helo deck on a ship, and WTF not?
>>64574886Wouldn't building a destroyer be better? Even north korea has 2
>>64574807Then we would bomb Mexico for aiding and abetting a hostile invasion of our country by 3rd world savages
>>64574953??
>>64575271Entonces bombardearíamos México por ayudar e instigar una invasión hostil de nuestro país por parte de salvajes del tercer mundo.
>>64575291मुझे माफ़ करना क्या आप हिंदी बोलते हैं?mujhe maaf karana kya aap hindee bolate hain?
Will Iran make more of these for those ships?
>>64574772I know I keep getting flak for this but:Not every weapons system needs to be able to compete with the US. For stuff like: immigration/customs-duties pickets, ASW, Search and Rescue, infil-exfil of friendlies, and force projection against groups with limited naval/anti-air capacity (so most people in that corner of the world) this type of approach can be a cost-effective alternative to a big-boy carrierBut thats just my two cents
>>64574775>Israel!>we should let Iran fuck with US shipping because of da joooooos/pol/niggers need their heads bashed in with a fucking hammer.
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>>64574905I would just be a destroyer, not an armed tanker.Who would win between a NATO tier destroyer and an armed tanker assuming they were close enough so both would score hits, like in some "naval blockade" games? Who would win if they collide? :)During Iran/Iraq War, a tanker hit a full size mine and it ripped a 50ft hole, but the tanker didn't even change its schedule.
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>>64575370>For stuff like: immigration/customs-duties pickets, ASW, Search and Rescue, infil-exfil of friendlies, and force projection against groups with limited naval/anti-air capacityconverted oil tankers are terrible at all of that, both in absolute terms and by cost-efficiency
>>64575370pretty much, Iran (and China) are just prepping for the day USN throws in the towel and can no longer provide The World with free Sea Police.Currently, shipping between Mexico and Europe, Europe and China, China and Mexico....etc...is all protected by USN.
>>64575418Trust me, Iran doesn't want to get into a frigate-sinking-in-home-waters-during-peacetime race because they'd win. They're the world champions at it. They even managed to have one capsized while in a drydock.
>>64574747>floating baseA helicopter carrier?
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>>64575420Well ostensibly the tanker serves as a mothership for helicopters and maybe even small boats, though Id be happy for an autistic anon to prove me wrong by crunching the numbers - like, the cost differential analysis of one budget carrier versus a fleet of helicopter-operating frigates for a given area of ocean.
>>64575420I don't think is "converted" as much "a few add-ons, and the main one, the aviation deck, is multi-purpose".Even if these ships are no longer hauling Iranian oil to China, its clearly a dev-program for armed tankers.They will then build a bunch of pre-fab kits that can be slapped on the rest of their VAST tanker fleet overnight, with trained up crews. That slapping could happen in Iranian or Chinese or even Paki shipyards, once the Blue Prints are sorted out.One thing about a militarized tanker-you don't know WTF else it might be hiding in the huge tank voids.Meanwhile, back at the ranch.....https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/11/constellation-class-frigate-program-cancelled-u-s-navy-looking-for-faster-procurement-of-alternatives/
>>64575399They only fuck with US shipping because of Israel you dumb fucking nigger.
>>64574747iranians are incompetent chimpanzees
>>64574886>Iran owns like 70% of all tankers.No it doesn't.
>>64575484Homie, everyone in the region has an Air Force. Like an actual one, not leftovers from when the Shah was in power. Converted oil tankers are only a threat to the environment
>>64575551not sure how its counted, by number or tonnage, but they got a big fleet.its also all murky due to "flagged" vs actually owned, and shell company owned.but I think you are right. maybe it was they have some partial ownership or "lic to use" or some shit.
>>64575720just like fighter jets are mostly now missile trucks, its not the ship as much as WTF is on its deck.the SAMs and ASM don't know and don't care
>>64575501>they only commit piracy against [country] because of [unrelated country]Israel sucks, but this whole idea that anything is justified because Israel is within spitting distance or touched it once or looked at it is retarded.
>>64575884who just stole several $100 millions from Ukraine (that was gifted by US Tax Payers)?Answer: Israel.Israel intentionally targets women and children in Gaza, but will tell you "Legally, we just can't" do anything about the Jews who are now in Israel with nearly a billion worth of stolen US Tax Dollars.Guess which nation is solely behind ramming countless "carvans" of Illegals into USA? Hint: the name of the NGO is "Israid" not "Chinaid".Its true China has much stole US military secrets, but for the most part, China didn't steal it from USA, Israelis did.
>>64575877>the SAMs and ASM don't know and don't careThey do actually, because otherwise they get ludicrously outranged, outperformed, and outclassed by similar or even identical weapons mounted on non-improvised platforms. There's a lot more to an effective missile than just the missile.
>>64576053An actual bot response
>>64575833>not sure how its counted, by number or tonnage, but they got a big fleet.Right... but that doesn't mean they're anywhere close to 70% of the global fleet. That's just frankly an absurd number given how they're sanctioned.
>>64576058cool thing about tanker based warship is you got nothing but wide open space to put all that shit.you know 3/4 of the cost of a new top tier warship is trying to stuff 20lbs of shit in a 5lb sack.with lots of extra room, a converted tanker can carry the latest shit experimental versions, with crew of extra nerds, years before it gets miniaturized and put into a destroyer sized ship.
>>64574775Dude the Israelis didn't even bother going after the Iranian fleet during the Twelve Days campaign. That's how little they think of it.
>>64575884Iran is only an enemy because of Israel. The only reason the Houthis are blockading the Red Sea is because of Israel. Iran was quite literally engaging in diplomatic talks trying to reestablish the Obama nuclear deal before they were perfidiously attacked by Israel.We would have zero enemies in the Middle East, or really West Asia in general, if it wasn't for Israel.
>>64576220It's likely more that Israel only has a limited stockpile of standoff weapons that they couldn't justify using on Iran's rather small navy over murdering more civilians in Tehran trying to provoke a regime change. Most Moral Army.
>>64576224yeah bro we really need some fundamentalist ragheads as our allies right? And yeah that includes the Sauds too, in case of any gotchas
>>64576239I'd rather have fundamentalist raghead allies who sell us cheap oil over a shitty turdie ethnostate that has made us pay trillions to fight their wars and fund their dogshit military.
>>64576224Iran is an enemy because they're muslim and muslims are psychopaths that are taught to be psychopaths by a book written by a false-prophet who got assfucked in the desert by Zutts while telling a disciple to watch. Isreal's alliliance is incendental, they'd still be pissy and howling "death to america!" if just because the US is majority Christian, regardless if the population was anti-Zion or not.
>>64576239exactly. :)The reason its Aramco (Arab-American Company) is Saudis and Muslim in general like 'Mericans much more than Euros, for a few reasons.Like them, 'Mericans are born from religious nut job stock (Quakers and Puritians, and Mormons). USA had Prohibition (unthinkable in Europe) and even to this day many Dry and Damp counties, with too many churches. 'Mericans, even by 1933, were burning lot more gas in cars than Europeans in their shitty trains.Also, USA didn't have a history of conflict with Arabs like European powers, regardless of what The Jews will tell about "USA's first war" in 1700s something.Without Israel, USA had natural allies across the entire Muslim world and would ace out Euros, Russians, Indian, China in that region, without even trying.Prior to The Jews committing crimes in our name, any American was treated as a demi-god in any Muslim land. Closest thing to "trouble" would be locals trying to pull rank on each other to have the honor of hosting The American.
>>64574778And they are big ass bunks then?
>>64575443non moving
>>64574747>floating baseHow is that not another word for a ship?
>>64576130I was going to go look for an image to reply with, but I decided what you typed out doesn't deserve that much effort so just imagine it says>File: brainlet_wojak.pngUp in the top left there
>>64574747it's funny to me that the only reason its still exists is that even israel thinks it's a joke
>>64576412it still
>>64576224>The Scorpion and the Frog: the post
>>64576130You think that quantum computer and the stealth fighter are real, don't you?
>>64576238>standoffthey flew completely unimpeded over iran dropping loads of the same JDAMs they drop on gazawhat are you on about >murdering more civilians ah you're brown that's it
>>64574816What's the story behind the rings?
>>64575501>ignores the fact they fuck with EVERYONE'S shippingRetard.
>>64576053>source >I just made it the fuck up
>>64576242>shitty turdie ethnostate that made us spend trillions to fight their warsEnough about Saudi Arabia already.
>>64576457>they flew completely unimpeded over iranMay we see it?>dropping loads of the same JDAMs they drop on gazaIcebreakers and Golden Horizons aren't JDAMs, sorry.>ah you're brownInternational conventions on the treatment of civilians and purposefully avoiding excess casualties is one of the whitest things around which is precisely why Yahuds like you can't abide by it.
>>64574772>let's sink it just to prove we can do itWhy would I want to sink another nations boat we are not at war with?
take your meds schizo kurdistan doesn't exist
>>64576224Iran is an enemy because they overthrew the Shah, which was an American backed puppet during the Cold War. Iran immediately sided with the Soviet Union. Iran was completely incapable of doing anything to Israel other than seethe at them, calling them the 'Little Satan'. The 'Great Satan' was, of course, the US, because they were behind the Shah.I hate Israel as much as the next person, but this "history started with 9/11" mindset needs to fucking stop.
>>64577026you have to wait years to try to memory hole thatregular ass jdams >International conventions on the treatment of civilians and purposefully avoiding excess casualties is one of the whitest things around which is precisely why Yahuds like you can't abide by it.>1062 people were killed during the recent 12-day conflict with Israel, including 786 military personnel and 276 civilians.you can keep the whining to twitter or can't you anymore because elon exposed your actual locationoh and btw out of the 33 israelis killed, only 1 was militarymaking it 0.74% vs 0.03%
>>64576224israel is little satan so remind me who do you call big satan and then explain how iran hates the big satan only because of little satan
>>64574775I like it when my government kills brown people. I wish they would do it more.
>IranAre we still pretending they are relevant?
>>64577997Israel did 9/11
>>64576544Their chief mullah wears that ring, the multiple copies are just part of the joke
>>64574747>LmaoReally? Post your converted cargo ship helicopter base and drone launch platform then.I'll wait.
>>64575501Do you think France got involved in the 30 years war because they were pro protestant?
>>64576224Israel has tarnishes US relations with many Arab and Muslim States, this much is very trueBut you don't know the first thing about Iran, and those tarnished relations caused by Israel were relevant to the cold war, most of the region is US aligned or neutral now, and the main players such as the actual Arabs are undeniably western aligned
>>64576349Nigger you're thick as mud, most relations are a carry over from the bongoloids, excluding Egypt. The Arab States in particular is very much a bong holdover from when they dicked the ottomans with them, and their monarchy doing funny dances together
>>64578439You think you're clever with that remark, but that's exactly what I was referring to - so thanks for stating the obvious.
