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>>64574785
1690

Maybe I am dyslexic
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nahhh im all about joint shooting brotherr
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>>64574785
Revolvers are easier to shoot "from the hip" than autoloaders. We are about to come full circle back to reality.
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>>64574870
But there's much fewer times you can shoot revolver from the hip
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>>64574785
Dropped my GP100 and the target rear sight snapped in half. Built like a tank my ass.
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>>64574955
Point shooting 2026

No more sights on guns
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Glock changed the spec for no other reason than to cuck out for the anti-rights lobby but Sig Sauer pistols are still demonstrably worse for now
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https://checkpointcharlies.com/product-tag/james-earl-jones/
James Earl Jones' gun collection (partial). Some standouts:
Korth Semi-Auto
Borchardt C93
Hogue Avenger
Bren Ten
AMT Automag
LAR Grizzly
Wildey Survivor
Couple of Gyrojets
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> Newest acquisition, feels damn good in the hands

Hopefully everyone had a good Thanksgiving, and recommendations for an optic I should mount on this? Sadly wont be able to shoot until I start my vacation next month.
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Pussy hoe
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>>64575247
Forgot to post nigger
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>>64575108
Awesome acquisition, anon! I see a lot of people recommending Swampfox red dots for those, but I haven't ever tried them.
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>>64575108
If you already have a cheap optic that you want to demote from a reciprocating slide and retire on a calm 22, that one. If you don't, 407K $160 on primary arms is the cheapest, if you have no budget constraints, do whatever memes tell you to.
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>>64575349
Is there an American made optic that isn't a Horosun in a dress?
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>>64575363
Yeah, RMR
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>>64575363
Oh and Leupold Deltapoint pros
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Just passed 1500 rounds through this thing. Besides some initial hiccups I can now mag dump this thing easily.
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>>64574887
How do you think a gunfight actually works with pistols? 99% of all handgun altercations end when the first person pulls a pistol. No shots fired. 99% of the remaining ones 1% end when the first person gets hit. Literally anywhere. The remaining miniscule amount are all the videos on YouTube.
I don't need more than six. If I have fired six times i have hit six times. If the shit is still hitting the fan I have fired six times to get to a rifle, or get the fuck out of there.
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>>64575363
Not at that price.

Sig Romeo RS series is """"""assembled in the USA"""""" though it probably uses some US made components since the Romeo X series is actually made in the US. The Compact (Shield) is around $160, the large (DPP) is around $135. But the Holosun K is a better buy at that price, despite the much worse warranty

Actually I lied, you can sometimes find Deltapoint Micros on sale for ~$150, those are entirely made in the US. They're also pretty awful to use
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>>64575108
Fantastic handgun but have some time with the irons first
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>>64575104
Damn he had good taste in gats.
>9mm win mag carbine
If I had an automag or a grizzly with a conversion kit I'd snap that up.
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Oh Burt I know you also love wacky 22s, so how about a weapon from our greatest allies. I have a mountain eagle to go with the "baby" eagle

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>>64575349

Thanks guys will look into them for the future
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>>64575250
>Australians showing off the one type of handgun they are allowed to have
Cute. Adorable.
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>>64574785
Probably going to swap grip modules, the prodigy mainspring housing wobbles when it cycles. It’s weird
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Still waiting for my m1x
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>>64575560
Oh for fucks sakes bird wrists. Wouldn't it be nice if you had Accuracy better than a cluster bomb? Stop the faggotry. Use the main hand thumb as a fucking thumb and allow the natural angle of your wrist and the grip angle to point the pistol. Stop pulling so hard with your off hand fingers so hard they change color in recoil anticipation. Use the off hand thumb as a thumb to grip as well you dumb little cunt.
>>posts another shot timer
>>posts another random target
>>makes more claims then posts requests to post guns
Learn how to shoot and stop compensating for the fact you are a scrawny little bitch boy already.
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>>64575599
It was actually the trigger bow not being fit right so it gets stuck on the magazine making the trigger pull oddly heavy like 9-10 pounds
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>>64575625
No, it's more like you pulled so fucking hard in recoil anticipation after the first shot all the rest were in a different time zone. Add to that the push push game you are playing with your thumbs and off hand index finger (that is rising while you shoot by the way) giving you all the Accuracy of a ouija board. And frankly your wrist angle is so cocked back I'm amazed nobody has pointed it out to you.
That specific grip angle fits about 90% of people. To find it one simple holds the pistol with a single outstretched arm using ones fucking thumb as a thumb and point the fucking gun. If you cannot match that same natural angle with both hands on the pistol it's because you are a trendy asshole. Try again.
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>>64575642
I’m shooting a gun I just built for the first time, I know what’s wrong with it.
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>>64575659
Don't know how to properly fit pieces, don't know how to shoot. Makes sense. It's cool seeing some faggot who spergs bad advice post a video of the worst hand, wrist and finger position i have ever seen. All makes sense now.
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I can't wait to shoot my PDP, I love pulling that gun's trigger
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>>64575599
>>64575642
NTA, but one day if you become a better shooter, you'll discover that different techniques work for different people, because ergonomics is a major factor for handguns.
There is no one-size-fits-all correct way to shoot.
(But yes, anon's shots looked really janky in that clip)
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>>64575724
>>different strokes for different folks
Wrong is always wrong. The proof is in the video. Lil hands there literally can not use his preferred grip on this handgun. That should tell you all you need to know.
Someday when you learn to shoot something other than paper that actually moves, and shoots back YOU will understand.
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>>64575670
Do you have a video of yourself shooting a .45? Or ever going to post guns? You come off like some retarded underage kid or an equally retarded boomer talking shit. I can barely understand your rambling but the parts that I do are contradicted by several professional instructors or competitive shooters
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>>64575744
Look at your fucking wrist and hand angle. That's heinous. Use your fucking thumb to find the grip angle dumb ass. You are literally taking the pistol out of the "pocket" that allows you to naturally shoot to your instinctive point of aim. Then you are compensating for the lack of stability and retention the unnatural thumb position you are using causes by applying pressures in multiple directions...holy fucking tard ship aquafag.
>>muh pro comp shooters
Are fucking retarded women beating, larping, fat, retired asshats selling you trendy nonsense. Fucking just look at all the retard level shit you are doing that is completely contradictory to the actual design of the tool you are using. It's like turning off a light switch with a pool stick from across the room and claiming it's the "right" way.
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>>64575778
Yeah I’m looking at my thumb and wrist angle. Seems to work for me, the fastest draw from concealment I can do with my 1911 is 1.2-1.3s but I can easily shoot a .25 split at 7 yards with good A zone hits
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>>64575599
>doesn't post gun
>doesn't post times
Every single time. Interloper.
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>>64575250
>Australian Burt
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>>64575787
You can't hit shit kid. That some of the worst disparity between shots i have seen in a long time. Swallow your pride and learn how to actually shoot instead of larping with timers and screenshots. Go find someone who can actually shoot and show a little humility and fix yourself. It's fucking sad. Normally I wouldn't just shit on someone who doesn't know may actually listen to your advice. And they should not. It's bad. It's all bad and you should feel bad.
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Anyone know anything about antiques? Was going through my Grandpa's personal effects today and found his old handgun.
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>>64575800
Thinks that
>>post something
Is somehow a counter point to a verifiable fact that was pointed out you don't like...
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Who here still carries a shield without an optic?
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>>64575813
I have a shield plus with no way to put on an optic
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>>64575806
A lot of words and not a lot of guns or shooting being posted
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>>64575810
It's a very simple filter that so far has not failed once. The streak continues.
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>>64575829
The filter is lay down on your side proped up on your off hand elbow and shoot a target at a 90° angle to your body. If you practice with any grip that does not allow this one handed action you are not practicing. You are larping.
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>>64575825
Yes, a lot of words pointing out you are a larping faggot. I could post a quarter million in guns, or a glock with grip tape. Or nothing. None of that will make you less of a wrong, larping faggot who has been exposed.
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>>64575861
Still noguns/noshoots. How hypocritical to call someone else a larper.
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>>64575861
You could, if you had guns.
But alas,

You do not.
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>>64575870
>>how on point to call out the bad technique that does not translate to real world use, and is counterproductive to actual shooters
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>>64575861
you could, but you won’t
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Do these people come from other boards or something? How the fuck could you think you'd get away with not being an object owner on an object-oriented board? "Pics or stfu" has been the ethos of 4chan since the beginning but still these tourist interlopers come.
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>>64575874
The repeated attempts at distraction won't work. You simply had followed the logical fallacy of a plea to authority with another.
I can defend my criticisms with sound logical explanations. I can defend my advice with sound reasons. Me being right does not hinge on my possessions or lack thereof. My sense of well being does not require your belief in my knowledge or abilities. What I am able to point out from two short clips speaks for itself. As does your lack of any reasoning whatsoever why you are doing it.
You are playing checkers on a chess board kid.
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>>64575891
You haven't been here as long as I have then. I am pre gathering circle jerk red dick fag invasion. Suck a dick.
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Man I can't wait for my P365, M9, M17, and PDP
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>>64575817
There are ways.
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>>64575800
This is a common leftypol and similar raid tactic, although I think this is nigger trash spam is organic. A lot of gun people are pretty fucking dumb.
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>>64575808
Well, it's a cap and ball black powder pistol, but you probably didn't need me to tell you that.
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>>64575966
Yeah. That nigger is dumb. Imagine pointing out that in 30%+ of pistol shootings this guy wouldn't be able to shoot back the way he is practicing. What a buffoon. Go team popularity! Let's do whatever the last almost retired comp shooter does after he beats his wife and loses his sponsor! Quick post a Pic or the truth isn't the truth!
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>not one post about the glock gen 6 images
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>30%+ of pistol shootings
This definitely sounds like someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Not only that, but this particular they/them sounds like a redditfag while doing it.
I'd probably kill yourself.
Ignore the fag and let's keep going.
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>>64575891
It's pretty common knowledge that posting on a hobby board on 4ch is slumming it. Don't expect earnest conversation, not like they're impossible, but discussion here is a bit fucking stupider than an actual forum where things like decorum and dignity are things acknowledged by the participants. Also ppk/s is a fuckass of a gun I love this lil guy
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>>64576065
We should hang out sometime
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>>64576061
>>I'd probably kill yourself
Better learn to shoot one handed then because that faggot comp grip wont cut it for that
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>>64576049
Do you have something you'd like to share?
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>>64576098
but I do know how to shoot one handed, Ben told me how
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>>64576065
The PPK really is fantastic. There are tons of good hoby threads and sometimes you get retards that shit things up, but in those other threads, people are much better at spotting and ignoring it. For some reason the gun community is especially susceptible to trolling.
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>>64576132
I want a red and white and black Glock with the Austrian black eagle symbol on it
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>>64575898
y’know, you’re talking a lot and not saying anything; when i have nothing to say, my lips are sealed.
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>>64576132
I hate it
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>>64576132
But will they put a rail on the G26?
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>>64575681
I tried a PDP for the first time recently and fucken loved it. Ergonomics are great and the trigger is nice. Super accurate too
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>>64575737
I can see that you're upset for being called out, but it's better for you in the long run this way.
Trying to give someone shooting advice based on a single video clip just makes you look dumb.
Giving someone shooting advice is hard enough when you're there in person IRL, and it requires significant amounts of time and trial and error.
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>think I have average hands
>try shopping around for a .357 Magnum revolver
>hand's too small to cock the hammer one-handed on any model

I don't get it. My hands are too large for most auto-loading compacts but they feel too small on most revolvers.
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>>64576317
Good thing it's easy to change revolver grips
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>>64576317
It's probably not your hand size, but your thumb position on your hand.
Some people have thumbs that look like nubs sticking out of the side of their hand.
Others have thumbs that look like they're coming out of their wrists.
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>>64576303
Please, don't feed the niggers. It creates a dependent population and a costly mess.
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>>64576089
cool but we must discuss firearms or I will become irate.
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>>64576490
That’s the faggiest tattoo I’ve ever seen.

Congrats!
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>>64576497
it indicates how far I am able to get my fist up your father's rectum. He's a clencher.
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>>64576490
trans?
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>>64576490
Oh look someone adjusting the sight picture to the natural point position of the wrist and firearm angle instead of adjusting the grip, wrist, arms, and overall body position to the natural upright neck and line of sight position. Literally one person who knows how to shoot who hasn't chugged the backwards cool aid.
Any more? Obviously nobody can articulate why they are doing everything wrong. It's like stumbling into a DK syndrome lack of support group
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>>64576541
I'm not sure what all that means brother I learned how to shoot from youtube
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>>64576541
Dunning-Kruger syndrome post
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>>64576303
>>Giving someone shooting advice is hard enough when you're there in person IRL
That right there, means you aren't qualified to be doing it.
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>>64576317
>My hands are too large for most auto-loading compacts but they feel too small on most revolvers.
Auto-loading grips are built around the magazine. Revolver grips are built around the human hand.
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>>64576552
It means if you straighten your trigger finger you will be pointing directly at where you are aiming. All of your body's angles if you will are in the most natural and repeatable position to hit where you are shooting. It is the way shooting has been taught with handguns since blackpowder pistols.
The modern comp shooters position moves the pistol and body angles so the pistol is lined up with the eyes natural line of sight. In doing so there is a bunch of bullshit that is explained away as "better" for things like support, stability etc. But it's all bullshit. It is simply a sport shooting style that has a plethora of adjustments to fix problems it creates.
What you are doing can be done with one or two hands in any position without changing a thing on the firing hand. While this pisses off people with something to sell, and those who bought into it, it is the right way.
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>>64576556
Good to know you know what DK means. Thanks for telling the class you understand big guy.
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>>64576578
care to post pictures of your targets or any sort of metric? or even a shooter who does such things
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>>64576585
Thanks for demonstrating someone that suffers from it.
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>>64576578
>>64576541
lol
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>>64576578
huh. Well I guess that's an interesting affirm to get. I'd really like to get over my flinch someday instead of just trying to shoot around it.
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>>64576590
Sure. Here, from above. He is firing with the main thumb up/foreword. Common comp nonsense. This has his wrist in an unnatural position. His finger would be pointing wildly up were he to extend it. Due to the pancake style two hand grip he does not have control and stability of the firearm without controlling the pistol further down the lever arm. Off hand index and thumb pressure. He is doing this even if he does not know why to bring the firearm on center. To keep it up and in line with his eyes natural line of sight over everything else. Add to that the modern trigger finger angle that is an overcorrection by changing the drive angle instead of correcting the actual finger contact position.
It's all bullshit. And that's why this tard has to have a different grip if he wants to shoot one handed. As opposed the the father fister with the tattoo that can most outshoot timer guy even if he isn't trying.
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>>64576619
No, let's see what you're describing and your own gun or targets

just show us any sort of proficiency in firearms
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>>64576619
Let me guess, you aren't going to post guns nor are you going to post yourself shooting right?
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>>64576643
Don't sperg out and post another manifesto there Brenton
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>>64576659
>>I want you to be wrong but I don't know enough about shooting to hold a conversation
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>>64576610
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>>64576677
more like most of your post is nonsense and lists things I'm not actually doing. trigger finger contact position is boomer nonsense

are you a haley strategic guy? what's with all the big words instead of actually posting you holding a gun or even shooting
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>>64576695
Literally everything I said you are doing, you are doing twink. And you can obviously see that and it has struck a nerve.
Focus on the subject if you have something of substance to say. Your pathetic flailing to find some sort of retribution or distraction wont fix your shit form child.
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>>64576677
Anon you're a textbook donkey-kong syndrome case. No shooters worth their salt do anything you're saying. I'm just replying to get a few laughs out of you.
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>>64576695
>>trigger finger contact position is boomer nonsense
This right here...
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holy shit this nigga spazing out LMAO I thought we would have a comfy handgun thread. hahaha.
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>>64576669
Typical imperial, looking down your nose at the rest of us.
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>>64576713
>>No shooters worth their salt do anything you're saying.
Literally all the most accurate and quickest shooters in history all do what i am saying. Modern comp position is very new. It started with a comp shooter who retired that wanted to sell a book pitching thumbs forward, and has evolved into full retard.
Do go on about how modern form does not sacrifice literally everything to bring the gun to the line of sight instead of taking the best most natural position and angles and adjusting the line of sight to that. I'll wait while you pretend that isn't the modern forms biggest retard, I mean spokesman teaching fat ass there how to take a shit in the front yard...
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>>64576715
pic related is boomer nonsense.

obsessing over trigger finger contact position does not translate to other people, people have different length fingers and their exact hand position on the gun is different. asserting that their is a correct trigger finger placement is wrong, all that matters is that someone pulls the trigger consistently. Results matter, not "correct" technique.

I can shoot one hole groups at 7 yards and 2 inch at 25 yards. I can shoot sub .2 splits for A zone hits. What I do works for me. All I have been asking is for video or photos of the other guy about how he actually shoots so I can what he's doing.
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I shoot with two fingers over the trigger.
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Rob Leatham shoots with his finger hooked down...
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>>64576744
Keep on fighting against common sense in favor of your larp kid. It's not helping your case. You can't shoot at all without having a wild disparity between shots. That's per YOUR videos. Shot timers, pictures of targets are just a large without witnesses.
Perhaps it's genetic with you.
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>>64576769
you've yet to post a target
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>>64576773
You have yet to articulate a reasonable response or even remotely be able to explain why you are doing something so wrong you have a massive disparity between shots, barrel angle and level. That's because you have been exposed.
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>>64576734
https://youtu.be/69Hh8XWGpvo
so why isn't it represented by the quickest and fastest shooters?
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Hwansik Kim shoots with his finger hooked down...
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>>64576781
so we should shoot like this?
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>>64576788
Turn the gun sideways first
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>>64576773
The literal best in the world throughout the entire history of handgun shooting for accuracy, speed, and repeatability in any position are all students of the same class. Only the modern meme shooters "comp" decided to do everything ass backwards.
"My way" works in any position with any pistol with two or one hand with any sights.
"Your way" doesn't work at all for you. And for those it does they have to be square to the target, upright and squatting, and requires two hands.
Hmmmm, I wonder who is wrong here...
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>>64576788
If you want to hit high and right if at all. Probably should learn how to hold a pistol first. I recommend whoever that was start by using some power tools and doing some manual labor. That shit is weak.
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>>64576806
what do you mean, he's shooting exactly the way you described
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>>64576785
That's cute. You think comps shooters are the quickest and most accurate. They are like JV high school football compared to the NFL all star team. The quickest shooters are cowboy action. To the point with live ammo demonstrations they hit six targets in the time a comp shooter can draw and hit one. The most accurate would be Olympic pistol.
>>oh so we should all go be cowboys
No, you should learn to draw and fire with one hand from the natural wrist angle. You will be faster and more accurate.
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>>64576813
He's "behind the pistol" with his grip. Among the plethora of issues one can see here including his incorrect wrist angle you can see his extended trigger finger would be both pointed up and wildly to the right.
You see your incorrect assertions about what I am saying and your bruised ego have blinded you. Keep trying kid. Perhaps being exposed as a faggot that can't shoot who has been posting bogus targets and times for that sweet sweet anonymous cat molestation thread credit is just too much for you.
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Are my only options for Sig P232 mags either OEM ones that go for $100+ on GB or $20 Pro Mag ones that I assume are shit?
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>>64576822
>The quickest shooters are cowboy action.
you mean shooting near squib loads, both Olympic shooting and cowboy action they're essentially shooting .22 lr
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While I like the p30 I really hate how far back the trigger breaks I grabbed one of the gray guns hybrid triggers that moves it forward a bit.
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>>64576855
Being a habitual liar means you cannot accept the truth nor admit your own lies.
It's almost like if you follow the basic principles of accuracy, natural wrist and forearm point angle, you can shoot from literally any position. Quickly and accurately. Even without the sights. But what the fuck do i know? Oh yeah, how the fuck to shoot. Something you demonstrably do not.
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>>64576874
>But what the fuck do i know? Oh yeah, how the fuck to shoot
Proofs?
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>>64576874
those guys shoot wax bullets propelled by a shotgun primer or a large pistol primer, not live fire.
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>>64576885
Proof is in the pudding princess. The fact I know and you don't says it all.
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>>64576874
Lol, his finger is literally pointing down
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>>64576888
Those guys also shoot live rounds, cowboy loads and full loads at steel, fallaway and slug coins. Even if they didn't, it wouldn't matter. That's the best part. The form proves my point, and highlights how incorrect yours is.
You are searching trying to prove me wrong. If you were right and confident you would be trying to prove yourself right. You came up short. Speaks volumes.
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>>64576895
dude weed lmao
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>>64576908
I can literally see the wax bullets on the ground, I own a cowboy quick draw kit with .45 long colt shells for it
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>>64576901
And if he straightened it out it would be pointing directly at the target. Or in this case a little high and right as he has already shot and followed through. You really don't know what you are talking about do you?
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>>64576913
And yet you cannot shoot for shit and post videos of the worst shooting i have ever seen. Almost like you have something stuff, but suck at all of it. Huh.
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>>64576911
I know right. It's crazy how fucking ass sniffing stupid you would have to be to invest years into posting shot timer grabs, targets and vid clips only to be exposed as someone who literally can't shoot for shit. All well at least we will always have the liberty...
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>>64574785
Are Ruger P89s junk? I’ve liked the look of them for a while and checked it out online. I was surprised to see them listed so cheap. Are they just undesirable or total shit pistols? What don’t I know?
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>>64576931
Fairly certain everyone in this thread shoots better than you
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>>64576953
Not you obviously. We have all seen the video now. You fucking suck. Keep posting that larp dipshit. Fucking days of angle...
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>>64576953
It's weedgineer doing some on topic trolling just ignore it.
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>>64576946
They were never expensive guns, they were lower cost alternatives compared to the Beretta 92, Sig p226, and S&W DA/SAs. Ruger submitted it to military trials, I think the retrial of the M9 versus other guns since they accused Beretta of cheating. It did okay in military trials.
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>>64576946
Nah man they're great. I just got one for $225. The only thing weird about it is the take down, but it's not hard. I think people don't like it because it's big and blocky, but not as big and blocky as like a 1911 or something similar. It's also out of production, but Ruger still has parts for it and will still service it, within reason. It's accurate as fuck, eats any ammo I throw at it, and has a decent trigger. It's like a 9 - 13 lb DA but it's pretty manageable. It's my daily driver
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>>64576968
Nah it’s a different guy, complete schizo
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>>64576958
The video of me shooting a gun without sights just testing cycling?
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>>64576971
Very cool. I’d love a nice metal frame hammer fired pistol to balance out my plastic strikers. And this seems like a budget friendly way, and isn’t a generic Beretta or 1911. Also I love rugers, their revolvers at least.
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>>64576968
>>ignore the fact the larping faggot "resident expert" can't properly assemble and fit a pistol or shoot for that matter. Look away nothing to see here.
This is fucking chan faggot not let everyone just like stuff you epic pile of shit. Eat a dick and fuck off
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>>64576982
Literally every video of you shooting you larping fag. It's over faggot. It's out.
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>>64576995
Ever going to post guns?

I was trying to pin down if you’re some Europoor
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>>64576995
I don’t know why you’ve got a bee up your bonnet, but I do know that you’re spending entirely too much effort poasting shittily. It’s also immediately evident you’re a newfaggot.
Please lurk moar, and if you see something that upsets you, don’t attempt to post until you calm down enough to post something funny, or at least meritorious of the fraction of a cent of data it takes to access your poasts.
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>>64576979
Deep down you know I'm right.
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>>64576985
It's a very solid choice. You can even find wood grips online for them still if you so desire. I'm making some custom ones next week, but the stock ones are fine, too. I think you'll dig it
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>>64577124
Any models, years, styled to avoid?
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>>64576619
Oh shit I get it now, youre just a retard that doesnt know what hes talking about and probably doesnt shoot at all, so you've repackaged boomer shooting techniques from pre-Fairbairn/Sykes era and act like you have long lost knowledge as if people arent shooting wildly successfully doing the opposite of what youre saying.
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>>64576744
This actually is boomer nonsense. The ideal point of contact on the tilrigger will be different for every shooter and gun and is ideal when you can pull that trigger straight back. Even then you can hold the gun upside down and pull it with a pinky and if sight picture, grip, and press are clean it'll hit.
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Why is the vippy9sk so good?
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>>64576781
Shooting isn't a look, its consistent performance on demand
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>>64577158
Yes, Ben talks about that in his book

“Practical shooting reloaded” with a image of him holding a CZ pattern pistol upside down
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>>64577141
They're all about the same, more or less. KP89 is stainless steel, DC is the decocker version, but mine is just the regular P89. The safety is also the decocker. I know the later year variants are most likely better in quality.
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Any good Black Friday/ cyber Monday deals? Im particularly interested in wheel guns
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>>64576619
>Chat GPT, write a critique of this shooting style.
You're so full of shit. It's unreal. Too bad all these other retards keep replaying to you.
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>>64576643
>>64576659
>>64577156
THIS IS NOT AN ORGANIC POSTER!!!!!
DO NOT REDEEM!!!!!
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Had me in the first half, not gonna lie but when he started posting Olympic and Cowboy Action shooting is when I thought "Ain't no way this cat isn't jiving!"
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>>64576734
Stoger isn't a very good shooter outside of square range gun games bullshit. Aside from EXTREMELY basic fundamentals, his stuff is basically useless nonsense.
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>>64577509
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>>64577454
Based frog poster.
Sadly, I haven't seen anything worth mentioning. It's mostly just the regular fake mark downs.
If you're not using guns.deal and ammoseek.com, those are some great resources.
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>>64576397
I wear walker earplug earbuds edc. They probably provide minimal protection but 32 and 44special are quiet rounds so hopefully would push below irreversible damage threshold
>>64576065
Chose your weapon
>>64576118
I’ve been practicing with a laser snap cap. It point shoots really well.
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>>64574189
based thank you I'll just do this
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>>64577158
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>>64577568
>Quiet rounds
So probably I don't want 357 for a vehicle gun?
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>>64578005
You want a .460 S&W
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P225A1 or a glock 48 (non shield)?
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It's pretty funny when dipshits refer to single-action as SAO. That's like calling automatic pistols "semiauto only". The abbreviation also matches the one for Sword Art Online, kek

>>64577521
He misspelled Stoeger so it's probably the one ESL still at it
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>>64578265
Go away sgt SNAPbin
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>>64578268
sybau
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Does anyone have any experience with Chip McCormick "Match Grade" vs "Classic" 1911 magazines?
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>>64577568
You should do double ears when shooting.
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>>64578265
SAO is the capabilities of a gun, single action is a type of action. Go back to the /arg/ kiddy table.
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>>64578432
>Match grade magazine
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>>64576946
Some police departments issued them back in the day.
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>>64578469
That was my first thought, but it has modified gemotry, different spring material and tighter tolerances. They are only about $4 more.
All I know is that 1911 are the most magazine sensitive pistols I've ever seen, so if they can increase reliability, it might be worth it.
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What are the merits of irons-only holsters in today's world of slide-mounted optics?
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>>64578432
Wilson combat mags have always worked for me.
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>safe won’t open
Uh oh
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>>64578512
Just a bit more coverage that doesn't really matter to most people
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>>64578432
I like their silver 8 rounders with the little plastic lip to help you seat them, their 10 round mags are the best I’ve come across too. Wilson is good too but I have to slam the mags in much harder to seat them.
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>>64578516
>>64578524
Have you used the fancy "Match Grade" mags or just the regular ones?
Also, what do you think about Winchester white box IN .45 ACP?
I bought a new Colt 1911 and so far I have the Colt mag, a Mec-Gar, 2 Wilson Combat mags (I got a deal) and I have a CMC on the way. In need to buy ammo and I'm thinking WWB.
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>>64578550
I think they’re just normal ones, they say Powermag on the side. And WWB is fine for .45acp, I don’t like most of their other lines, but they still make good .45.
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>>64578550
I prefer Wilson ETM mags, you can get them like 25 dollars each on sale

WWB is fine, dirty but people like that since it makes the gun look cool. I shoot whatever I could get cheaper, Speer, Winchester, Blazer, and lately Federal RTP or whatever.

My favorite ammo has been Winchester Red Box (Ready) as it comes flat nose which punches nice round holes like a wadcutter/JHP in targets instead of round nose that tears the paper.
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>>64575560
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>>64575778
When you grip the gun hard with your right thumb, it creates an opening above it, below the beavertail. When your thumb up, your hand occupies that space and you can get higher on the gun. That's true, even if one-handed. If you owned a gun, you could try it right now and see.
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>>64578451
>capabilities of a gun
LMAO, here's the capabilities of my gun when I shoot SAO instead of selecting automatic fire
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>>64578574
Go away antifabin.
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We got to the point where someone doesn't know what Single Action Only guns are, and how they are different from the rest? /k/ has declined.
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>>64576490
wtf is that arm jello
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>>64578632
We don't call this a Colt Single Action Only, you dipshit
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Go back to /arg/
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I am having an issue helping my grandma choose her carry gun. She is extremely weak handed due to neglected carpal tunnel and arthritis. She can not rack the slide on ANY semi auto I have, and I have a Smith ez 380 and a Keltec P17, two of the easiest slides to rack. She also has difficulty pulling the trigger on most revolvers, but could pull my LCR my personal J frames that I opened up and worked the action on (stoned and polished action and put in a lighter trigger return spring, but kept the stock hammer spring), It takes some effort though so she wouldn't be able to hit anything unless it was right up on her.
The question is, do I get her a .22 that she can shoot and actually hit something with, but could jam and she physically wouldn't be able to clear unless adrenaline gives her super strength, get her a 380 ez that would have the same issues as the 22, but would at least be centerfire, a big full size 9mm that she could handle and shoot, but also couldn't clear if it jams and she would probably not carry most of the time because too big, or get her an LCR or J frame, work on the action, get lighter springs than what mine has to make it easier for her, have fewer rounds, and have to hand load ammo for her since 32 ammo is hard to find and expensive (she lives off of social security) and 38 can be had in low recoil options, rarely works and will underpenetrate if they expand. I would have to hand load special low recoil hardcast wadcutter loads that still have enough ass behind them to actually stop someone. Low recoil solids like FMJ or LRN are usually shitty range ammo and may have duds and are super light loaded. Gun sam on youtube had really shitty results with target wadcutters so I am a bit leery of using factory wadcutters. I would feel a lot better if I made her some good ammo. Not full house buffalo bore style +Ps, but still stronger than the shit from factory and will be meticulously hand loaded one at a time and sealed to ensure reliability.
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strikers are SAO
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>>64578780
Some of them, some of them are more like double actions where the trigger cocks the action as it’s pulled like the Glock Safe Action. The GSA isn’t double action since the striker is partially cocked by cycling the slide
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>>64578779
Honestly most people run as soon as you start shooting so a .22 lr that jams has already served its purpose. Not being able to load it is a serious issue so I would say revolver is better, is a .22lr revolver possible? I know their triggers are usually heavier, I wonder if any of the centerfire .22s are in a revolver that could have a lighter trigger
>5.7 revolver when
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Are striker actions less reliable than hammer fired ones? In my anecdotal experience it has been the case that striker actions have more light primer strikes than hammer actions.
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>>64578779
>older J frame
>apex spring kit
>TK custom or power custom extended firing pin
>hornady 110gr critical defense
There you go. Only reason I'm gonna say the LCR might not be the best choice is because it's easy to short stroke the trigger.
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>>64578796
You know how when you squeeze something as hard as you can and you hand starts quivering? That's her when she pulls the trigger slowly on my LCR. She can jerk it through though. She can get it done, but not without effort. She has actually borrowed my SP101 with a 4 inch barrel loaded with standard pressure 38s, up till now to have around the house just in case, but she can't pull the trigger on that one anymore so I doubt that a 22 revolver would help. If she could, a 22 mag revolver may have been the best option. Though maybe if I put in a lighter trigger return spring, she could have a slightly lighter pull without effecting reliability.
I would feel better giving her a centerfire though. I can load ammo and put in federal match primers that have softer cups and put in a lighter hammer spring. Then she would definitely be able to use it. I don't know. . .
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>>64578798
I think it depends on the gun really.
I've never had a light primer strike on a striker fired weapon yet but most of my rounds are through hammer fired guns.
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>>64578779
It's a tough question because despite manufacturers marketing guns for those with low hand strength there's always one or two issues that keep them from ideal. If you do go the semi auto route they make these things to make racking it easier, but as you said if it jams she's out of luck. If you could get cocking wings on a bodyguard 2.0 or something similar id say that's pretty close to ideal. Otherwise I think you're on the right path with a tuned revolver
This anon has some good suggestions
>>64578824
Or maybe even consider sending it to a good gunsmith to lighten/smooth it further than the kits.
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>>64578824
Yeah I have noticed that too. With my LCR I tend to skip a chamber sometimes when shooting quickly. I don't know about the critical defense though. Gel testing I have seem it only penetrates like 10 inches and barely expands with standard pressure. I would rather use a hot wadcutter that penetrates deeply and weighs more.
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>>64578725
You revisionist dipshits

>>64578780
Strikers are hammerless
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>>64578877
The +P variant really isn't that bad unless you're getting her an airweight which even then she might be able to handle it. Recoil to me feels barely more than cheap target shooting ammo. Gun Sam also says it's the most consistent snub load.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X-sqOkKed4
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>>64578908
Consistent, sure, but consistently underpenetrating. Over penetration could get you sued, but underpenetration can get you killed.
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>>64578908
Gun sam has a lot of bad takes when it comes to interpreting the results of his testing. I like his tests, but rarely come to the same conclusions as him. I really miss shootingthebull410. He was the best gel tester by far.
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>>64578925
Remington golden saber 125gr +p is another great option that does consistently exceed the 12 inches of penetration and expand out of a snub nose. Recoil is also really low. That's what I carry.
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>>64578925
>underpenetration can get you killed.
In da streetz?
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>>64578937
I have never used Golden sabers. Good to know that they work well from a snub. They are always really expensive on the rare occurrence that I see them at a store. Are they cheaper online?
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>>64578953
Ya bruv! Killt in the streets!
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>>64578956
Yes. Do not buy the 25rd boxes from a store, buy the 50rd LE boxes online it's way cheaper. I always get them from ammunitiondepot but they're out of stock now.
There are plenty of videos on this round on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRUSjvfRcwY
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does anyone make a real magwell for the vp9? picrel is usp + jet funnel on left vs vp9 + tyrant “magwell”
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>>64579065
taylor freelance
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If that guy who wanted a good deal on a Mark 23 is still here, https://lockedloaded.com/product/hk-mark-23-45acp-5.87-12rd-fde they're selling it for $1700, unfortunately it's tan. I'm gonna pass because I hate FDE and tan frame pistols but it's a good price.
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>>64579160
if I hadn't just bought a new pistol I'd buy that in a heartbeat, FDE be damned that price is too good and I been wanting a mk23.
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>>64579172
It's funny because I see people coping on gunbroker about how the color variants of Mark 23s are somehow "rare" or desirable, and the ONLY variant on sale on black friday is FDE, proving it is not a hot seller at normal price.
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>>64578874
>there's always one or two issues that keep them from ideal
Equalizer works great. Having purchased one this year and putting something like 750 rounds through it so far I'd say it's pretty much ideal as an auto carry gun for limited hand strength.

>>64578779
See above. I replaced my wife's carry gun with a S&W Equalizer and it's pretty much perfect. Some people bitch about the grip safety but I have zero issues with it, nor does she.
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>>64574785
will factory USPc 9mm magazines ever be in stock again
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>>64579219
I can only hope that the lack of enthusiasm persists because I'd really like to get a mk23 next year so anything that drives the price down makes that more plausible.
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>>64579160
pAINT IT YOURSELF
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>>64579160
Damn that's a great price
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>>64579254
>just paint it bro
retard. It's just going to wear off and look like dogshit. Painted polymer never holds up. Paint a glock clone or something, but not a nearly $2,000 gun.
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>>64579263
>that filename
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>>64579292
Burt's always been sketchy adjacent if you pay attention long enough.
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>>64579313
He's a portland protestor he has stated it before in the 'cord.
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>>64579350
nah, Burt can't leave his home or the private investigator coca cola sent would out him as "not immobilized by coca cola induced obesity" and his lawsuit would fall apart. He said he's waiting for a settlement so he can buy a manhurin or korth revolver with a Blue PVD finish
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>>64579435
>soda pop lawsuit
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>>64574785
Guns similar in size to the P365 X-Macro?
I tried a friends and it felt like the perfect size for concealed carry, and I liked it more than my current g19 for carrying due to just the comfort. Seems like my other options seem to be either the G48 or Shield X, but I'd like to have a safety, and the Shield X's sucked when I tried it in the gun store. Just looking for any other options or suggestions to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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>>64579803
CSX E series
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>>64579805
lol
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6” vs 4” barrel revolver? Full under lug or half lug? I’m really thinking about a 6” full under lug like a 686 or GP100 but I’m not sure how unwieldy that long of a barrel would be will the extra weight of a full lug.
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>>64579875
4 is more practical
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>>64579803
Hellcat pro? CSX E 3.6"? I have both the regular Hellcat and CSX E and like both of them. The Hellcat is definitely harder for me to shoot well, I think I am the worse with it of any gun I own for some reason. The CSX E is a fine shooter and is my usual carry.
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>>64579875
6" full underlug unless you want to carry the thing
>t. 5" half underlug chad
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>>64579890
The regular hellcat is snappy because its slide is light and its grip is short, worse than a G26 while retaining roughly equal barrel length. I imagine the pro would be more controllable, likely in similar proportion to the difference between a G26 and a G19.
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>>64579940
Wrong. It has absolutely zero to do with it being """"""snappy"""""". I just don't shoot it well, even in slow fire my groups are bigger with it and that isn't affected even in the slightest by how much recoil, muzzle flip, etc a gun has. I can make the tiniest group with my 629, I shoot it as well as I do my MKIV, and it has immense recoil and muzzle rise.
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Ben bros…

He has cancer…

https://youtu.be/PrWFIH34Fv0?
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>>64579805
>>64579890
I heard bad things about the original CSX line, but I'll check out the e series.
Also hows carrying a 1911? This is probably just zoomerlore but I always heard that conceal carrying a 1911 was inherently unsafe.
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>>64579962
Only really old 1911s aren't drop safe, and that's the only reason a 1911 would be an unsafe carry gun. They're just a poor choice for a CCW because good ones are expensive, and they're big and have tiny capacity for the size. If you're going to carry a full size pistol it may as well be double stack. 1911s are the perfect range toy, other than .45ACP being about 1.5x the price of 9mm at best.
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>>64579962
>>64579971
All 1911s that lack a firing pin block are not technically drop safe, all guns without one are, where theoretically the firing pin can get enough momentum to defeat the firing pin spring and detonate a primer since it’s just riding in the slide without any retention other then the spring. This means a 1911 dropped muzzle down can go off. They’ve added firing pin blocks to 1911s but people don’t like them and depending on actuation they make the trigger bad. Dropping a gun muzzle down mostly is safe towards the user so a lot of people don’t care that much.

You can carry a 1911 or a 2011, you just have to be motivated to do so. Like being a 1911/2011 enthusiast.
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>>64579953
>get ball cancer
>get divorced from your retard whore wife who can’t into logic
>still win worlds that year, in the most competitive division too

B-B-B-BASED
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>>64579981
>All 1911s that lack a firing pin block are not technically drop safe
Series 80 and guns based on them are drop safe. They have a firing pin block. Competition guns often omit it because they aren't intended for carry use but some retards still carry them.
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>>64579949
If you have training on one gun you might have a particular "cadence" that doesn't work so well with another because gun # 2's trigger breaks at a finger pose that's not what you're used to.
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>>64580035
Series 80s have bad triggers and the vast majority of 1911s are “series 70” without the firing pin block. As someone who CCs a “series 70” I feel attacked. The MILITARY guns from 1911 were without a firing pin block. The MILITARY guns post series 80 were still without firing pin block, Delta, FBI, USMC were getting series 70 guns.
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>>64579875
>4 inch half underlug for OWB belt carry or range use.
>6 inch full lug for range play
>3 inch full lug for IWB belt carry or innawoods bear gun
>Snub J frame or LCR for pocket carry
3 inch is the overall best barrel length for maximum versatility in an L frame size revolver. it can do anything other than pocket carry and you aren't pocketing a 686 or GP100 no matter what. If you plan on carrying it get the 3 inch. It is just enough easier to conceal to make a noticeable difference compared to the 4 inch.
If you will never carry it other than maybe taking out to hunt small game, get the 6 inch.
If it is mostly for range use, but you may randomly decide to carry it, get the 4 inch.
4 inch is still pretty easy to conceal, but is a little nicer at the range than the 3 inch.
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>>64580043
It's probably completely down to trigger position. There's nothing about the finger position that is normal on guns like the Hellcat for me. With guns of the Hellcat's size class and smaller I use my first knuckle on the trigger because the grips are so tiny. If I don't, I consistently push left. I don't have this issue on normal size guns.
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>>64580049
Series 70 guns just need a titanium firing pin then they are drop safe enough to not have to worry about it.
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>>64579768
is the decocker there actually metal with the plastic wearing off?

does the USP have a metal decocker too?
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>>64580063
except those peen and fail, albeit at higher round counts but I don't want to put something that fails in a critical position for really no increase in safety at all.
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>>64579949
Literally retard.
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>>64580102
>he thinks recoil will make your groups bigger in slow fire
Go back to school retard
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I gave up on buying the sp101 for now. I just ordered a new Hogue grip and pocket holster for my lcp2.
I spent hours looking into earpro I could EDC that would function as a Bluetooth for phone calls and cancel out background noise for both ends of the call while not being awkwardly huge. No such luck. The market isn't there yet. Most the high end shit is for combat with radio or factories. There's nothing for a guy in and out of a work vehicle and dealing with customers. It's really close and I could make it work if I absolutely had to, but I'd be spending hundreds of dollars on 3M shit and USB adapters to have in ear buds with an external clip on mic, and even then it night not work.
>>64577568
>44 special quiet
I actually looked into it as an upgrade to my lcp2. Apparently it's much more powerful but the same or lower decibels. I'm not about the spend a grand on a Ruger Alaskan and the only concealed hammer one I can find is charter arms anyway.
I'm not going through the hood anymore so concealment is the bigger priority over capacity and power. This position is a lot whiter.

Anyway, I spent the money on bougie coffee and espresso makers and a grinder. It's a much better use of my funds this cyber Monday than a gun I want but probably don't need and insane levels of EDC earpro that I'll likely never need.

Maybe I'll buy a used 44 special off GunBroker next year.
Maybe some guntuber shill will convince the chinks to make consumer Bluetooth noise cancelling gunshot rated earpro with a dedicated clip on nose cancelling boom mic for EDC.
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>>64580123
It does if you flinch.
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>>64576799
You are. Ypu are absolutely flat fuxkimg wrong. Sorry mate.
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>>64580067
that big lever is the safety. The P30's decocker is on the back of the slide, to the left of the hammer. Idk about the usp this is the only hk gun I own.
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>>64580067
the USP uses a polymer coated metal decocker, the trigger and hammer are the same
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>>64580155
If I don't flinch for a 629, I'm not flinching for a hellcat, dude
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>>64580167
I'm flat right, mate. The proof is in the facts. Bunch of migrants from reddick and comp wannabe fags following YouTube nonsense doesn't mean shit. The absolute fastest draw with any pistol or holster setup is one handed. The quickest and most repeatable wrist and arm position is the natural point aim. It's fun to watch the comp shooter pretend he is great when he graces us with his presence after punching the shit out of his former partner/wife. But he is just a comp shooter. Ya simply can't use his or any of these techniques in actual combat, police or civilian altercations save a few. And they do not translate. That reads when you add a new metric you have to completely change your form. It's very much like the idiotic CAR system. Or canted sights on an ar. It's just movie level retarded. You are welcome to keep training the wrong way. Considering over 99% of the population will never even see actual gun fight first hand let alone be in one you will most likely be fine. It's because of this low chance so many people get away with all the nonsense. Ask someone in person. Privately. Someone who has actually been in multiple shootings to see the edc they carry. And for advice on how to shoot to stay alive.
Spoiler, its going to be a basic bitch pistol with iron sights. And they will tell you to learn to shoot one handed. Over all. Two is better. One however is necessary and should be the main muscle memory default grip you have. Don't take my word for it. Go. Get off the internet and ask someone with experience. They aren't here. Obviously.
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>>64580431
I’m happy for you or sorry that it happened
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>>64580146
That's a buzz killing about the ear pro.
>I'm not going through the hood anymore
Ke, wut?
>used 44 special
Why .44 Special?
Why not a .45 ACP Pitbull?
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>>64580431
No one is reading that cope essay.
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>>64580453
>Why not a .45 ACP Pitbull?
NTA but it's a good question
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>>64578573
>>When you grip the gun hard with your right thumb
Nobody said to do that. It's stupid. Don't. Last knuckle of the thumb should be bent down. It's not possible to "grip hard" that way. Lends itself to the two handed combat grip as well.
>>creates an opening above it, below the beavertail. When your thumb up, your hand occupies that space and you can get higher on the gun.
Have you ever handled a pistol? As long as you aren't trying to shoot a deagle with 12 year old sized hands...what the fuck are you talking about? The "beavertail" is in the thumb joint 1/3 over the knuckles or so firearm or hand depending. The thumb is bent at the last knuckle. With the wrist at the natural angle the trigger finger laid out on the frame will be parallel to the barrel. You will now have optimal trigger position contract and not be "curled over and down" like in the thumb up grip.
>>That's true, even if one-handed. If you owned a gun, you could try it right now and see.
I'm fully convinced you are either retarded or have pic related hands.
It's not a dick you aren't trying to strangle it. It's a tool. The handle has evolved from plow handles to revolvers to autoloaders and modern day hand tools. They are literally made to be held one handed and point where you point. The good ones anyway. Fucking dipshit larping can't shoot fake ass mother fucker. Literally the worst disparity from shot to shot I have ever seen. Days of angle with you. Not minutes.
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>>64580464
I'm amazed you can even type on that prison wallet phone.
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>>64580431
Not reading this, kys.
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>>64580505
Wow anon, could you take a picture of yourself holding the gun so we can see how to do it?
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>>64580530
You already read it. Realized you were wrong. More likely can not overcome your bias and realize you can not articulate anything to defend the position you blindly chose and went with the tired old trope response. It's ok. It's harder to admit you were duped than it is to just continue being duped.
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>>64580453
I'm not going through the hood as in I'm not exposed to basketball americans. Granted 5 shots of 357 isn't the call there, 15+1 and of 9mm and spare mags is more appropriate, but the general point is that there's extremely low probability of conflict here.
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>>64580467
>Why not a 45 pitbull
44 special is slightly quieter (maybe, would have to confirm)
I know you don't need moon clips but it's an extra point of failure
semi auto ammo is more likely to crimp jump
The pitbull isn't available in hammerless as far as I can tell. I don't want a hammer for a pocket gun.
Yes, I have big pockets.
If I found a hammerless one I'd be open to the idea. I'd check GunBroker but someone will do it for me so he can call me stupid.
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>>64580543
I can assure you I didn't read your schizobabble.
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>>64580536
Quick post another fake timer screen grab and follow it with literally the worst shooting i have ever seen. You know how bad someone is when you can literally see the angle difference from shot to shot in real time. Holy fuck i wonder how many times you have been kicked out for hitting ceiling and floor.
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>>64580550
The fact you responded right there...ya you did. Dipshit.
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I won't be taking my dad to the range again....former military my ass...
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>>64580551
What? I was asking you to display your knowledge, what’s wrong with you?
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>>64580566
You made a claim that is demonstrably false. I corrected you. Feel free to show how with the thumb down you have gotten lower and created a gap. As already pointed out that means you are trying to settle the backstrap into the meat of the web and not in the knuckle joint of the thumb.
You have strong opinions, don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Typical. You don't need a picture. You need to go handle a fucking pistol. Correctly. Stop asking me for dick pics. I'm not into you.
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Is this some sort of elaborate bait or do we have a new noshoots schizo?
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>>64580579
Wtf is wrong with you
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>>64580555
>take new buddy out shooting, he use to be us army
>"so you said you've shot a lot, ya?"
>"ofc i'm very familiar with guns"
>flags me, twice
>limp wrists pistol and provokes endless ftfs
>'group' is an even smattering of holes across the entire paper, at 7 yards
no one knows how to fucking shoot i'm starting to suspect i'm a fuckin unicorn because I can hit the target sometimes
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Ben has ball cancer? Penile prognosis? schlong status? Nuttsack news? Sperms status? Cum consolidation? Logic wins everytime bud.
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>>64580594
Actual shooters are pretty rare. Even a C class USPSA shooter mops the floor with like 90% of people. A Master class shooter is like a literal unicorn/Bigfoot. A US Army sub IQ mong probably couldn't even out shoot a civilian USPSA D class.
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>>64580547
Pretty sure you can just call charter arms and they will sell you a bobbed hammer to put into your pitbull or bulldog. They make a 45 colt bulldog now too you know. It's pretty neat.
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>>64580594
I'm very hard on my placements and times but I frequently have normies come up to me at public ranges and ask me how to shoot better. Most gun owners literally can't hit the broadside of a barn
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>>64579160
What's the reasoning behind a tan frame and a black slide?

Black frame and stainless slide is ok thought.
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>2011slop
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>>64579160
who would pay $1700 for this gigantic slop? a USP 45 tac is like $1400 and basically very similar and less gigantic. Also a FNX 45 tac is like $1200 and accepts optics/pic rail.
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>>64580606
How do you feel about an inox 92FS with a black threaded barrel?
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>>64580630
I was referring to the classic two tone USP40.

But since you ask nicely, I like my Berettas just as my sisters likes her boyfriends, all black.
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>>64580636
>just as my sisters likes her boyfriends, all black.
hot
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>>64580555
>>64580594
Probably found out why military issue guns have safeties
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>>64580600
Truth is, I didn't even want a "pocket" revolver until I got that stupid no dash model 36 for free. Now my brain thinks I have one, but it light strikes in double action making it pretty useless. I mean, it's effectively a single action for reliability.
I found a guy that sells shims and the Wolfe spring kit. I already replaced the spring with the 8.5# factory spring. I already cleaned it. The "hammer nose" (firing pin) protrudes more than a dime past the frame.
The wear marks on the side plate suggest the sear pin is dragging. It might also be end shake but I don't think so. So the same in going to order the 9# spring kit, some hammer shims and cylinder shims.
I can just carry my 380 anyway. No one's going to fuck with me. Probably.
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>>64580646
You could just sent it to smith and they will try to fix it.
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The yoke button has a notch in it and that might be an issue. I need to buy real feeler gauges to check the actual end shake. I only have spark plug ones and they don't go thin enough.
Hell, it might be end shake and switching the number 1 and 2 screws might fix it, or it might make it worse.
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>>64580657
They're going to fix a 57 year old gun for freev for it's (at least) third owner?
They barely fix their new shit anymore.
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>>64580645
Enlisted aren't meant to use pistols. Too dangerous.
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>>64580606
Delta force and other top tier units tricked out GI 1911s. Often taking the best frames they could and then changing out all the other parts, the frame would be old so they often just sprayed it in rust protecting paints which were the predecessors to Cerakote. The slide would be new and not need to be refinished leaving the guns with black slides and painted frames. The most common was OD green and black. People liked the style so they do it even without needing to
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>>64580664
Smith will fix any post 1958 revolver that has a model number stamped on it. That's a model 36 they will work on it.
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>>64580646
Does the hammer nose go freely in and out of the firing pin bushing? Have you cleaned that hole out? Check if there are any burrs or wear signs there. I'm almost wondering if something there is binding, in SA the hammer goes back a bit further than when shooting in DA which could just be giving the little extra force it needs to ignite the primer.
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>>64580677
Well considering the history behind...it makes no sense on a polymer frame
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I bought a p365 tacpac, did I fuck up?
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>>64580693
I'll call them tomorrow, but I don't know if I trust them. They've been fucking up a lot lately. If I can't fix it with the spring and shims I'll let them have a go, maybe.
>>64580741
I'll look again but I cleaned it pretty thoroughly. It's denting the primer and it goes off the next time it comes around.
I think that either the extra half pound spring or shimming the hammer to stop the sear pin from dragging should do it.
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>>64580752
Not really, for science, tell about that weird holster from the tac pac.
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>>64580646
Are you lubing it? That looks bone dry
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And I mean I cleaned it. I was hoping that would do it
Also, is it normal to have circular tool marks on the inside of the frame, or did someone fuck with it?
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1136609089

>Italian made
>No lawyer writing
>Manufactured in the year of my birth

I'm tempted bros
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>>64580786
Yeah, that's normal.
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>>64580790
Ima get it.
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>>64580786
All of mine have the same marks.
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>>64580780
It was, probably for decades. It's got a fine coat of hoppes #9 now everywhere I could reach with a patch.
That gunblue YouTube boomer says you're not supposed to use too much oil, just enough to coat everything and wipe the excess off. He claims to have been trained by smith as a police armorer. He also says never use shims and send it to the factory...
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>>64580802
Hoppes 9 solvent or their brand of lube? It needs a thin amount of lube at the pivot and contact points
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>>64580646
>>64580765
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>>64580800
Ngl, first time looking at the guts of a revolver, they never interested me. Interesting.
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>>64580807
The oil. I used clp on the barrel and chambers, but only used oil on the insides. I followed the Boomer's instructions as well as I could. Gunblue1488675309 or whatever his name is.
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>>64580752
p365 is great, bit of a kick but otherwise great
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>>64580807
>>64580810
https://youtu.be/4ujyLn3lHBc?si=Wj91kgIGsK-E9cJt
This is the video. If you can stand to listen to a guy explain everything spent m slowly in an east coast accent it's very educational. Maybe too much information.
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>>64580832
kek I've watched a lot of his videos already. He's good.
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>>64580799
Please do not bid up a gun I intend to purchase

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1139898766

Why not get this one instead?
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Let me guess you “need” more
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>>64580747
It makes no sense because the guy is a fucking retard making shit up. Two tone guns have been around for a long time. For the HK in particular, it's a fuck load cheaper to run a different color plastic through the molds than it is to paint/coat the slide in a new color. It's purely decorative and some people like it.
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>>64579768
is blame any good
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>>64578779
If she can't rack any slides and she can't even pull a trigger, then she's too weak to carry a gun. Simple as. Tell her to give up on guns. It's like taking their keys away once they're too old to drive. It's just that time.
>inb4 SHE HAS A RIGHT
She isn't physically capable. Even the guns specifically designed for people who are physically weak are beyond her. How the fuck is she even going to aim the thing if she's so decrepit that she can't pull the trigger? At this point, you're just buying a gun for the hypothetical robber.
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>>64581319
What I said predates HK making polymer pistols
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>>64581046
how's the 75d?
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>>64581336
The difference is that a car won't pull her into the driver seat and force her to drive. Dindu may put her into a situation where she needs a gun. We are in Texas so there are all sorts of diversity around us and none of them are trustworthy. Every time a hurricane hits Louisiana, we get even more diversity for a while too. She is always out and about and among the populace and I worry about her. She can pull the trigger on my stock LCR and I am sure she could point shoot it out to maybe 5 yards. She would be able to aim and shoot a semi properly, but wouldn't be able to clear a jam. I am just questioning whether the capacity is worth the potential jamming issues if I give her a semi auto. Maybe I could get her a 5.7 pistol. Low recoil, centerfire, loud as fuck for psychological stops, bottleneck cartridge for better feeding, and 20 rounds before running dry. Maybe that new Keltec 5.7 would work since reloading is pretty much not even a factor. Anyone have one of those? Are they reliable?
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>>64580790
>>Manufactured in the year of my birth
>88
Damn unc shouldn't you save your money for a coffin instead?
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>>64581761
Little timmys on the IPad before school again!
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>>64580616
Because I like it (not the FDE one) more than a USP (I have a USP already)
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>>64579762
Man I can't wait to get my hands on my M9
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>>64581425
>clip fed keltec in meme caliber
>reliable
Get Grandma whatever revolver has the lightest double action pull. Memaw will find the strength to do the needful, saar.
God bless you for caring.
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I'm tempted to comp my g17 with this new lws comp that just came out. I already have a threaded oem barrel.
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>>64582173
Why? Is it your competition gun? Are you competitive in a class that requires compensators?
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>>64582189
I just really want to try a comp for fun with out spending over 300 bucks on a radian ramjet. It's more of a curiosity thing for me.
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>>64581761
lmao
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I just bought the best handgun on the market, the SIG Sauer p365. SIG is KING.
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>>64578779
She gotta be able to track shield ez (380) slide. If not, revolver. Something steel, heavy in 38 special.
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>>64582355
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92FS, new in box, Italy production, 1 extra mag, $635 OTD includes all fees, tax, etc.
Good deal or should I walk away? I looked on Gun.deals but most retailers are charging shipping + my local FFL has a $35 xfer fee.
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>>64583076
That’s a decent price, probably not the best since I remember seeing 5s infront of 92 prices but I bet the hassle of drop shippers takes away any price gains
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Time to buy another trade in Glock
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>>64583095
Cool, thanks. I haven't been in tune with Beretta pricing at all so I wasn't sure what the market looked liked for them lately.
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>>64583076
I bought mine for $500 two years ago so I wouldn't say it's a steal
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>>64583235
is yours made by superior italians though?
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