Boomers would have eaten up a 9mm or a .45 caliber version, and the platform could be feasibly adapted to other rimmed cartridges too.
It's just a simple straight blowback pistol. If you scaled up the bolt to make it heavy enough to shoot 9mm or whatever else the gun would have absurd proportions.
Bill Ruger was a high Fuddite priest and would hex any guns Ruger made that were too based.
>>64574997>Deleting my pic for being a soijakTheres not even a rule against soijaks. Why are blueboard mods so sensitive
>>64575010Any examples? It is sort of weird they didnt really make anything particularly innovative for 90% of their life.>>64575004The proportions couldnt be that much worse
>>64575025They'd be hi-point tier in size.
>>64574997Lots of reasons.Mostly it just wasn't the market Ruger was going for. Back in the 50s there was a wide variety of 22 automatic caliber pistols and revolvers available. Basically every pistol manufacturer offered a rimfire plinker or target pistol, but they were typically fairly expensive or so cheap that they were pure junk. There wasn't much in between. Bill Ruger figured out a clever way to stamp/weld the frame in a way to save cost and cribbed the upper/bolt design from a captured Nambu. By having a much better pistol with comparable quality to the Colt/Hi-Standard offerings but at a significantly lower price point, Ruger quickly came to dominate that market specifically.When he started designing guns for other markets they too were pretty focused on what would disrupt and sell well. The key being to design something particularly inexpensive and efficient to manufacture but still delivering good quality.A centerfire Standard/MK I/II/III/IV is theoretically possible up to a point and actually has been done. Some madlad made a custom one in 32 ACP a long time ago, which required a new barrel, adjusting bolt face, shifting the firing pin and a widened magazine well/custom magazine. It was quite a project and nobody is quite sure if the gun even works properly. Would anyone buy a dedicated 32 version of the MK series? Probably not enough to justify making them.As far as 9mm and 45 you'd need to scale the whole design up and probably add some sort of delay mechanism because straight blowback in those cartridges would be pretty horrible to shoot.Other than the Nambu that the Ruger is vaguely derived from closest example I can think of is the Musgrave 9mm from South Africa.https://youtu.be/HEpvFBwpOao?si=dorI81m2HssUJSIuThat was marketed to be as cheap as possible for black customers living in shanty towns and still sold poorly. Because it was straight blowback in 9mm it was difficult to cock (heavy recoil spring) and recoil was awful.
>>64575025No they were actually very innovative from the beginning. Devil is in the details.Take for example the Security Six. On the surface a totally unremarkable double action swing out cylinder 357 revolver. Put it next to a S&W 19 and the difference becomes apparent. The S&W has all it's lockwork behind a plate on one side which makes the middle of the frame asymmetrical, Ruger's frame is more like a chassis with the lockwork packaged inside. The frame can bear stress more evenly and it is also significantly cheaper to assemble. This means both a lower unit cost and a longer service life. Compare the cost of revolvers available in the 1970s and Ruger was way cheaper than comparable offerings from Colt or S&W and they humiliated the latter in a trial for the Border Patrol.10/22 used a novel injection molded alloy receiver which turned out to be modular due to relatively easy barrel swaps and a rotary magazine design. It's pedestrian nowadays because they are common as dirt, but at the time almost every other 22 rifle had a tube steel or milled receiver with press fit/pinned barrels.M77 was a Mauser derivative with a controlled feed extractor and everything, but undercut the cheaper post 68 Winchester mod. 70 with an investment cast receiver.
>>64575025>The proportions couldnt be that much worsehttps://10mmautocombat.wordpress.com/blowback-bolt-calculations/A .22LR bolt can weigh a fraction of a pound. If you want it to shoot stuff like 9mm or fuddy-five it needs to weigh 2lbs or more. It would need to be totally redesigned to include a delay or locking mechanism.
>>64575072Don't know why I said the 10/22 receiver is injection molded, it's cast. But still it saved a ton of cost.The Mini-14 is also a highly simplified design beyond just being a scaled down M14. It is more like an M14/M1 carbine hybrid. In fact Jim Sullivan worked on it as well as the M77.https://youtu.be/BgzTjX1alpM?si=Vk5UQOLm_00L3ntZ
>>64575072Back in the day Bill Ruger brought a machine to an NRA convention that used an electric motor to repeatedly dry-fire a Security Six over and over again as fast as the motor could run, 24-7. It completely blew people's minds that you could abuse the revolver like that and have it not shit the bed.
>>64575025>The proportions couldnt be that much worseWrong.
>>64575094When they were playing around with the P85 during the preliminary XM9 trials they read the requirement about +P+ ammunition and simulated a slide failure by cutting away the entire right side of the slide below the ejection port and running thousands of rounds of ammunition in that condition.
>>64574997What about a 22 caliber handgun that's more Nambu rather than Standard?
>>64574997Or maybe I could interest you in a hand drill instead?
>>64575195I wonder what a non telescoping version of this would look like
>>64575050good answer
