Wouldn't a .22LR gatling gun with very high fire rates be a better weapon to defeat drones?Just make it as portable as it can.Assign one guy in the squad to carry this weapon and make him carry a lot of ammo.3000 rounds of .22LR should weight 12kg.BRRRRRRRRRRRR on the drones.
Is OP being retarded on purpose
>>65216556>slava rossiy-AAAAAAAACK!!!
>>65216556Why not try taking cover in the sunflower field? The best outcome is the drone getting detonated by the stalks.
Why bother? Going through the effort of developing that kind of weapon, training the meat to use it then having to deal with all the hassle of supplying and maintaining it sounds like a major pain. Just send more meat
>>65216556>Who you gonna call?>Wormbusters!
>>65216567>The best outcome is that his dead corpse will nutrition to the sunflowersfixed it for you.
>>65216567>The best outcome is the drone getting detonated by the stalks.Congrats you just made it in to an air burst munition.
1. What's in his backpack?2. What weapon did he use?
>>65216556>Wouldn't a .22LR gatling gun with very high fire rates be a better weapon to defeat drones? Gatlings are inefficient af. Too heavy, and all the ammo gets wasted in a handful of bursts. What you want is an assault rifle-style automatic shotgun. Semi, 3-round burst and full auto switch, 12-gauge, large mag (24 rounds min), big nigger (3½'') shells, tungsten shot, turkey/super full choke, individual pellet diameter min 5 mm, etc.
>>65216560Yes. There's plenty of examples of Ukies shooting down FPVs. The ziggers are just really shit marksmen since they get fuck all training as their purpose is to meatwave them anyways.
>>65216556>>65216560OP is for sure retarded but 22lr miniguns aren't necessarily impossible.Halo MFG was working on one years and years ago, not sure if it ever went anywhere though.See old forum link here for some pics: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/threads/22lr-multi-barrel-mini-gun.266518/
1200-1500 rpm ought to be enough.
>>65216556>congratulation you just fired all your amo to shoot down 2 drones >guess what's coming next ??? :D
>>65216556MCG's would cost about 20 guns worth to build. The bullets are unobtanium for the russians. That and a single bad bullet on a recoil based system means it jams. If it's electronic, good luck keeping it in service out in the marsh summers and permafrost winters.
Drones are cool because they make the gazilion dollar wunderwaffe irrelevant, its not gonna change anytime soon sorry
>>65216556Why did he explode in toilet paper?
>>65216556IMO only robots can beat other robots (not that FPV is really "robot").You want a Temu triple threat of:radar, visual, audio detection/targetingsomething on a tripod that one guy can carry.when fully deployed its legs might be 12' high.among other things, besides a gun, it should have lasers and/or spotlight to light up and blind FPV drones, or robot hunter/killers.lighting up a drone with lasers/spot light would allow other meatbags to attempt to engage, or at least know WTF it is.but for now I'm thinking a good semi-auto shotgun with fast reloading big clips would be the thing.I'm working on one of these then put extended tube and get those quick reloading tubes.spotlight, laser and red-dot.then....wait for it....some thing where it can rest/pivot off a tripod, but can also instantly be lifted off the stand. Stand would allow 360 and maybe -30 to +70, but would rock on a roller, so it wouldn't be flopping to either side, and could be reloaded with kwik-tube.https://eaacorp.com/product/girsan-mc312/
A rifle and a steady hand
>>65216951rifle or shotgun for the one shot kill?
>>65216982Why are you obsessed with americans?
>>65216556.22 LR isn't gonna be enough.
>>65216981Likely rifle with Ukrainian anti-drone ammo?
>>65216556The xm556 microgun will rise again
Its called a m1911. Walk over to where the bad man made the drone, shoot him. Then the bad man who sold it, shoot him too. Definitely shoot the bad man who bought it. Shoot the bad man who delivered it to a warehouse and shoot the man who took it from there to the front line. Shoot them at any time. At work, at home. When he's shopping, picking up the children, fucking his wife. Total indiscriminate terror against military drone infrastructure defeats drones every time.
Soon, people connect the dots. The over anxious wife realises her husband who orders drones might be next. The terrified father who manages warehouses witj drones takes sick days as he might be next. The son, petrified of being shot in the same streets he grew up in, quits his job delivering drone parts.None of these bad men come close to the front line. But that doesn't guarantee their safety. The only thing that guarantees their safety is never being bad men who enable other bad men to use drones.
>>65216957Did that drone go between his torso and the ground?
>>65216990Nope. You were sliding the thread again.
>>65216577Wow, didn't know we had actual Russian officers posting here
What if they used trained eagles to drop a net on top of drones.The net would entangle the propeller blades and destroy the drones.
>>65216965>IMO only robots can beat other robots (not that FPV is really "robot").Yes.>radar, visual, audio detection/targetingYes. >something on a tripod that one guy can carry.No. Just no. Humans are too weak to provide necessary carrying capacity, and energy supply.It should be at minimum technical car carrying micro AAA system. Infantry would act nside air defense "bubble" provided by such systems.
>>65218060>Moshe, the goys are talking about Drones on /k/ again!>Oh my coinage, disrupt the thread immediately!
>>65216982Americans are a little cut up about how they now have to purchase drones from Ukraine, as a matter of fact. Definitely would not describe it as their favourite thing that has happened.And since the Germans paid big for the information in Delta's datalake, you see Data centres erupting all over the US with all kinds of flimsy pretexts for their utility when they're just frantically trying to play catch up, with the small side effect of diminished social cohesion and general public outrage. Honestly, 4chan, these fucking captchas.
>>65218133why is Delta 1 eyed? What happened to her second eye? Also she should be dark bloo
>>65216916>We have infinite drones/missiles in my scenario but your ammo/interceptors are limitedI know what you are.
>>65218628Hell yeah sister
>>65218628gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
>>65218657>SEA hours>this mindbrokenI bet you cried when you woke up today and saw that your fellow shitskins are getting bombed again.
>>65218658How many kids did you kill today, IDF?
>>65218658Find an argument, amerifat, I'm Australian and whiter than you.
>>65218657>I just am not as into firearms as I used to be and the $200 Kohl's gift card Madame President offered is just what my former son wants for her birthdayI can't wait for the copes and the Gun Buyback General threads...
>>65218657it's gonna be soooo funny seeing them cope after playing so tuff :devilish:
>>65218657Burgers deserve it
>>65216957>if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a drone
>>65218657This.gif
>>65218657Total chud disarmament is going to go so hard, seeing white supremacists humiliated and bred out is the best. They can't even fight back or we get more dronekino.
>>65216556Seriously, just… start issuing grenade launchers with tungsten shot en masse. It’s not that much more weight, and that’s a lot of shots per squad. I don’t understand why this has to be such a difficult fucking problem.
>>65218657>>65218668>>65218688I once again testify that nu/k/ is composed of stinky, noguns, eurocommie tourists and we need a great ip address cleansing after this war comes to a close. NO EUROS. NO COMMIES. NO TOURISTS. TOTAL EUROCOMMIE TOURIST DEATH!
>>65218662Not nearly enough, evidently.
>>65218843Tungsten is expensive. Lead or steel works just fine.
>>65218859>tungsten is expensiveFor eurocommie trash, evidently. That shit is sold on store shelves here in burgerland.
>>65218871Bullshit. Tungsten is the stuff you use to carve out rifling. The US army doesn't use it for Sabots because Depleted Uranium is nearly as good and way cheaper. We only see it used in 120mm cannister because it's supposed to take out helicopter gunships.
>>65218968>Spreading out>Finding concealment>Hitting the dronesWho are these guys?
>>65218854Hi Russian asset!
>>65218668>im a noguns boot licking faggot and my my social security is openly being invested into our wildly over speculated real estate marketI honestly dont know how any canadian, australia or bong unironically announces themselves with anything less than the utmost shame on this board
>>65219003Cry more, eurocommie. You know I’m right.
>>65218986From the watermark and logo? Ukie patrol cops. But likely border guards.
>>65219010I’m convinced there isn’t a single genuinely white “Australian” on this board. No one with even the most minute amount of self-esteem would so proudly announce themselves as being from such a godforsaken country. It’d be like someone here actually announcing themselves as Russian.
net gun
>>65216556>FPVs equipped with mortar shellsat least they stopped dropping tiny AP grenades. nothing worse than getting peppered with shrapnel and slowly bleeding out.
>>65219042Thanks, my Cyrillic is non-existent.
because an autonomous system would be too heavy and handheld systems still require users to be alerted to the presence of the drone. having your head on a swivel 24/7 looking for drones is not feasible, let alone the skill needed to reliably shoot them down.real anti-drone coutermeasures will be passive.
>>65217163Why wouldn't the pregnant widow or orphan son find out where the bad man who made the m1911 is and wreck him with a drone? Then the bad man who sold it, wreck him with a drone too. Definitely wreck with a drone the bad man who bought it. Wreck with a drone the bad man who delivered it to a warehouse and wreck with a drone the man who took it from there to the front line. Wreck them with a drone at any time. At work, at home. When he's shopping, picking up the children, fucking his wife. Total indiscriminate terror against military m1911 infrastructure defeats m1911 every time.
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>>65219205
>>65219205fascinating
>>65219208>the last guy woke up to some drone buzz noise
>>65219205>1:13Don't Ukies use blue tapes?
>>65216556>all that to kill one dudeis the cost to outcome ratio even worth it in this instance?
>>65219522I think his gun alone cost more than a drone, not to mention armor, supplies, spare ammo etc.
>>65219500yeah he aint the snoozer from 2022.. also: sleeping bags kill!
>>65219522>hundreds of mobniks cross no man's land spaced a few hundred meters apart from each other and start trading lives with Ukrainians. uncontested.brilliant play commander. you've saved our drone budget tens of thousands of dollars
>>65219091>nothing worse than getting peppered with shrapnel and slowly bleeding out.considering the fate of some of the people on the receiving end of those blasts. I'd take my chances with the shrapnel
>>65218657kek
>>65216797>loaded with rat shotImagine the clouds you could put up.
>>65216916...a medal and early retirement?
>>65218083Just deploy nets over the canopy. Infantry copecage basically.
>>65216991Anything hitting those frail propellers can already disable the drone.
>>65216556It’s so gay how there isn’t tech to perimeter pluralize ammo production.The best you can do is shot gun tier with lead bullets, low pressures and paper cartridges.I want to be able to make cartridges from 20 to 120mm with cutting edge cuts at barrel melting pressures as a hobby with with the appropriate pre fabbed kit that can fit in a ruck or two.Drones are the someway. The chips require so many hours of labor it’s insane, and that’s just to get a single chip. The buildup is incredible.
>>65220112You probably need to disable 2-3, maybe 4, to drop that thing. You won't do that with a .22lr as you're desperately aiming up lol
>>65220241You probably need only 1.Those blades are spinning at very high speeds.Any unbalance will make them shake a lot.
>>65216960>Why did he explode in toilet paper?They all do that.I think it's just layers of clothes but it happens all the time. >>65218133Oh, haven't seen Delta-posting in a minute. >>65218625>infinite dronesRussians claim that Ukraine fields an average of ten drones per mobik at the front. It's definitely more than two coming for you.
>>65218986>Who are these guys?Soldiers who got more than ten days training.
>>65220241>You probably need to disable 2-3, maybe 4, to drop that thing.One hit almost anywhere on the drone will mission kill it.Even the frame would render the drone unflyable due to vibration if a 22lr went through it somewhere.
>>65217179That reads like it was a real hefty thought for you
>>65218854Flags would be nice desu
>>65219208>>65219205Humanity is so fucked up lol
>>65220740>>65220829If this were true, choppers would go down like flies when hit with rifle fire. Yes they can go down to it, if it hits critical points or is sufficiently high volume, but it's not as if a tiny bit of destabilization and loss of integrity from a few hits is going to do much.
>>65216556Laser weapon that automatically detects and severs the fiber optic wires.
>>65219205I'm gonna laugh so hard when Zelensky gets hanged.
>>65219507They do, but the guy was wearing Russian uniform and is more than likely heading towards a forward russian position or is meant to infiltrate behind Ukrainian lines. Thus explaining the blue tape (most likely the latter)
>>65219205>>65219208Loving how the Ukrainians have developed what is essentially an entire industry behind animated military logos just so that they can show themselves dunking on the Russians
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>>65221092I checked again and it seems like just a blue strap for his backpack.
>>65218978>Depleted Uranium is nearly as goodDU is better than tungsten for penetrators
>>65216556A .22 gatling is silly and unnecessarily heavy. Just get a good automatic shotgun with a high rate of fire and a large magazine, and load it with birdshot.
>>65221247why won't they carry any though??
>>65216991Do we have any footage of this bomb being used? I NEED to see it.
>>65221649
>>65221649>>65221653
>>65221649>>65221653>>65221656
>>65221649I think its been a year since I saw these, are they actually being used on the front or was it just a demonstraton?
>>65219205this shit is pure scifi horror
proxy fuse HE scaled down to 10ga AKA 20mmhttps://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/gold/overview.htmlhttps://fnamerica.com/products/military/fn-mtl-30/some of you fags say in modern infantry combat a precision GL is more important than rifle, so just tweak existing Proxy Fuse 30mm into one of these.I'd bet 30mm HEAT could kill most APCs and even many tanks if hit in right spot.Might need bigger clip for anti-drone work.
>>65221279Cost probably
>>65219208>That guy at 1:07 hitting the drone battery causing the drone to catch on fire one second before hittingHe was so close!>>65219205I wonder what time frame these cover. The Ukrainians announce a thousand kills a day but I don't think anyone even watches that much footage every day. >>65218978Tungsten carbide is used for tooling, not the same as regular tungsten. >>65217179>>65217163Quit larping boy.
>>65216991 I'm waiting for Ukies_drop_comically_big_bombs_on_clueless_zigs_compilation.mp4
>>65221214Tungsten penetrates better. It's nearly as dense and much stronger. Uranium might be self-sharpening but without the mechanical strength to cut into armor this means very little. Really, the biggest advantage is that Uranium is pyrophoric, igniting when unoxidized surfaces are exposed to air. This gives DU a mild incendiary effect.
>>65221096>Loving how the Ukrainians have developed what is essentially an entire industry behind animated military logosA lot of media degrees went into the armed forces, and it shows when you compare Ukie production openings to the lame 90s-looking ones Russia has.What mildly upsets me is that Hezbollah drone vids look almost as good as far as opening/closing FX go.
>>65216556A modernized American-180 loaded with tracers and extra hot rat shot would basically do what you want.The problem with your entire premise is Russia doesn't actually care if these guys die. You need to realize that these guys are a modern form of penal troops. Everything about them is expendable. They're out there because they pissed off someone higher up, they're foreign, or they're not important enough to be safe from being voluntold to go die. The Russians wouldn't waste time or resources giving them tools meant to counter drones. There is no "squad". There's you and maybe one other guy with food and water for a day or two and you're told to "walk that way". Meeting other Russians can be every bit as dangerous as running into Ukrainians.The entire strategy is creeping enough Russia aligned troops into an area to be able to say it's occupied without risking the loss of a large offensive.
>>65216556my friend in lebanon just told me of guys shooting down FPVs easily with regular M4s/flattops without SMASH. these were optical FPVs though which are slower.
>>65219208>Demontage at 0:49Indeed. Troops are being dissassembled.
