Post the armor, discuss the armor, touch the armor, wear thr armor, hug the armor, make love to the armorResources: https://myarmoury.com/home.phpCommon questions:>Isnt that shit too heavy/cumbersome to be practicalNo, its a little heavy and very loud, but properly made armor is more flexible than the human body, but you can do a full range of gymnastics in them with a bit of training>Arent they easily defeated by longbows/crossbows/musketsGenerally no, armor is fairly effective at stopping shots but lucky shots can get through weaker parts, and the rise of plate armor very closely coincided with the developement of firearms all the way up into the 17th century, until the mass production of muskets>I could easily just defeat someone in armor with a war hammer or maceAlso not the most effective choice, armor is very good at distributing blows across a large area or causing them to glance awayTheres a video somewhere of an idiot in full gothic kit getting slammed across the head with something blunt so hard he falls to the ground, and then getting right back up saying that it only winded him for a moment, despite the clear dent on the helmet, wish I could find itThe most reliable bet at defeating someone in armor is a well placed dagger, or of course a 9mm
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>>65473244same vibe
>>65473294I want their tactical buckler so fucking bad. Talhoffer would be proud.
>>65473627uh just buy it? It's $195.
>>65473244>Can you seeSometimes, depends on the helmet, not always important. I don't need to see all of your body to know what you're doing. >Does armor make you slowNo, you can run a few miles in it if you're fit >Breathing Primary issue is good plate comes in at the waist in a manner similar to a corset. I can breathe, but I can't take a full, deep breath. The closest equivalent for someone without armor is the breathing technique needed in a PC and gas mask. >Disadvantages You can't hear a fucking thing if you're in a full harness and helm.Or rather, you CAN, but not if you're moving quickly. If you're standing around, you probably won't hear someone quietly walking around. If you do, you can't really tell where a sound is coming from unless you look around and face the noise.
>>65474169>good plate comes in at the waist in a manner similar to a corset.Lose weight or lose the buhurt Michelin man padding t. Whiteharness wearerer Your breastplate should end above your natural waist and nothing should be impacting your diaphragm or chest to manually arrest breathing. The big breathing thing is that CO2 builds up in a visored helmet like wearing a training mask, so mouth breathing and deep breathing will fuck you; controlled breaths and experience feeling oxygen starved comes with time in harness when you're conscious of it. Even trading your eyes and teeth by wearing a wolfrib bad breath control will gas you like in any combat sport.
>>65474546No padding and not fat, but I'm wearing a corrazina made of five distinct pieces, so it's adjustable and mine comes in very tight at the waist. I could wear it looser, but I hate the fit when I do. Helmets don't bother me much, I do distance runs in my klapp.
>>65475203>5 piece corazinai assume this is the one you're talking about, which actually isnt a historical shape, it was a victorian reconstruction from parts they had laying around and they needed some kind of chest armor for a complete kitand to be honest i dont know if there ever was such thing as a "corrazine", as far as i can tell i've only ever seen brigandines with smaller plates or covered cuirasses (cloth riveted or tightly covering over a cuirass which gets confused a lot for brigandines)
>>65474169>good plate>>65475203>I'm wearing a corrazina
>>65475546>and to be honest i dont know if there ever was such thing as a "corrazine", as far as i can tell i've only ever seen brigandines with smaller plates or covered cuirasses (cloth riveted or tightly covering over a cuirass which gets confused a lot for brigandines)Coat-of-Plates, you mean? There seems to be a through line between coat of plates and italian styles of covered armour, so it's not completely odd to imagine that some of them had been constructed with structural rather than decorative coverings.
>>65475568coats of plates arent really the same, and I get the strong feeling that they kind of dissappeared in the late 14th century when solid breastplates became a thing, and sometime later eventually brigandines came aroundI'm not well read on the topic though I'm primarily going off what I've seen in manuscripts and the fact I've never really heard much legitimate talk about corazinasalso arent corazinas supposed to be italian anyways?
>>65475546Nah, one of these. No weird Victorian fauld. >>65475550Pls no bullyMy legs are good I promise
>>65475778i see yea, those ones that svan makes are still not the best shapeddont get me wrong though i think they're cool and I've thought a lot about getting one myself, but remember that its buhurt armor, not a close fitting reproduction
>>65475825Yeah, I bought it because I'm poor and it packs well.
>>65475662Nah, they aren't the same, but there seems to have been a fairly linear progression from coat-of-plates to Churburg type harnesses.If you can even call it that. Any smith who can raise a helmet bowl and make a CoP would find a Churburg breastplate well within their capabilities.
>>65475203Sounds like it doesn't fit. A pair of plates style brig doesn't need to be strapped that tight and shouldn't be constricting anything. The waist is in the wrong place at the least.
>>65476790It's just personal preference - I LIKE tight fitting kit. I could choose to wear it looser easily enough. I don't find the breathing restriction matters, as it's just causing me the breathe the same way I would anyway when fighting or running. In exchange the weight of it is all on my hips, to the point where it'll stay up and in place even with both shoulder straps unfastened.
slightly related subject, i think people too often get the idea of what the earliedt guns looked likeyou always just see a crude looking barrel on an unfinished block of wood when someone reproduces them, but with how expensive they were I seriously doubt even the really primitive ones wouldnt have atleast some kind of nice finish or paint on them, or as far as like brass or evony/ivory inlaying on the nicer examples
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>>65478174Thanks, I hate it
>>65475546This with a hauberk or voiders/sleeves/vambraces, clamshells, and a good helmet would be ideal. I'm a huge fan of brigs
>>65477936Lots of original military matchlocks exist, albeit mostly 17th century onesThey were undecorated and spartan as fuckOnly fancy rich pipo guns got inlays and shit, why waste the effort on a utilitarian tool
>>65478636That's not a brig - it's a breastplate, split in half, abd the riveted to a racing garment to give it structure. Similar, but not the same- I here something similar, and my crmuriass, ignoring the faulds (the ones in that pic are made up shit) is 7 pieces total.
>>65478679shit in the 17th century was mass produced though, the 15th century was a wildly different timethat would be like saying the british army during the revolution wouldve had to have looked like they were in poverty and wore varying shades of gray and brown because confederates a hundred years later were so broke that they looked like thatdo these look like rough hewn slabs of wood to you?
>>65477936I don't hold to your thesis because medieval firearm repros are expensive a shit bespoke items. You see s therifleshoppe wheellock gunsmithed together and your reaction isn't "wow this AA walnut sure is brown, how boring" Landsnecht guys don't slouch either when they're the guy with the thousands of bucks invested in medieval rifles like that one. Even handgonnes have a lot of work into them. No one is halfassing black powder firearms.
>>65478823The picture says brigandine
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>>65480187Don't put all too much faith in file names.
>>65480187And it's not. You can actually SEE that's it not just from the rivets.
>>65481931>spandex undergarmentFUCK>chainmail leotardJUST KILL ME NOW>maximilian fluted plate with gold inlay*dies*
