But there is a nuance......
>>65473612I haven't been following the frontline all summer. What did I miss?
>>65473680Russians are advancing towards the East in great numbers.
>>65473685...wait but Kiev is to the west
>>65473685Towards the east?
>>65473685May we see these advances?
>>65473680Kostiantynivka in two weeks
>>65473710They haven't even reached the fortress belt yet?
>>65473718Kostiantynivka is the very very beginning of it. It will be years before anything happens with Kramatorsk or Sloviansk. Picrel are my predictions from the start of the year.
>>65473718They're losing ground in Kostiantynivka based on geolocated footage the Russians posted. They're shelling ground they had previously captured.
>>65473734>>65473739When I was younger and had more investment in the week-by-week movements of the frontline, I used to toast fallen settlements with Moldovan wine and Ukrainian vodka. Sounds like I would have been sober for a while if I had been paying attention.
>>65473748>week-by-week movements of the frontlinejust check in every 6 months
>>65473612wait a sec, is that really by rybar?why are they in full doomer mode again?
>>65473767The real situation is way worse
>>65473710/pol/ declared that konstantynivka (and the Stinky) have been captured three times already this summer, tho
>>65473770the new mobik wave will set things right
>>65473794>/pol/ declaredAt this point they are nothing but thirdie shills and browns baiting each other
>>65473838Lots of lefty/pol/ trannies as well.
>>65473612Not enough arrows
>>65473794And I expect them to do it several more times this fall, through winter, and into spring
>>65473612There’s an unironic zigger I know who unironically calls every village that falls “the last fortress city”.I’ve been thinking about pointing out he says that every time the next time he does it.
>>65473612why don't they just push them a bit more???
Does Lyman alone cutoff Krematorsk and Slovyansk or do they need Izium for that as well?
What’s the realistic death toll estimate for each side these days?
>>65473872how the fuck?
>>6547387955,000 for Ukraine, around 450,000 for Russia
>>65473886Only another 50k before the supposed magic threshold where Russia starts thinking this shit might not be worth it.
>>65473767Rybar could be falling back on the old trick where'd they invent a Ukie attack then boldly claim it was repulsed
>>65473872>>65473881The first batches functioned correctly, I wouldn't rule out subtle sabotage al la stuxnet.
Russia cut a third of their non military spending. That’s how things are going for them economically.
>>65473929>subtle sabotage al(?) la stuxnet>(it was a usb with гeй-ceкc written on it)
>>65473838My favourite one that the image is missing is basically (I'm paraphrasing) "I won't be citing my work because nobody reads citations anyways."I forget where it's from but I actually think it's a good stance to have.
>>65473690No, no, no, they've advanced beyond the East, they're not in the East
>>65473958There was a historian I read once who refused to cite page numbers. That guy was my hero.
>>65473958>I forget where it's fromThat citation is already on the list
>>65473886There's no way, I refuse to believe this, don't give me hope like that
>>65473929>The first batches functioned correctlythe first batch was made of tiny prototype sats.the real ones (current) are much bigger (4x time heavier).but the first batch was still a failure since none of the sats went to the correct altitude.
>>65473962So they've gone BEYOND the East, is what you're saying.
>>65473612Didn't the ukraine capture lyman back in 2023?
>>65473968Russia's medevac is limited in the best of times and with their small unit infiltration it's basically nonexistent. Russians who get wounded behind Ukrainian front lines either surrender or die, there is no rescue.
>>65473968It's a lowball estimate of both sides. Most estimates give about a 3:1 to 4:1 casualty ratio across the war as a whole, with russia having a higher proportion of KIA on top of the higher losses. Russia has more than likely crossed the 1 million KIA mark.
>>65474008Oh and I forgot to mention; Wagner leaked their KIA numbers in Bakhmut during their campaign to get more resources from the MoD. About 50,000 Wagner KIA in Bakhmut alone, iirc. Brutal as Bakhmut was, I really don't believe for a moment that it represented over 10% of all russian KIA since 2022.
>>65473939Would not really want to be russian dependent on state pension, though considering their average lifespan tends to be in sixties and pension age is 65, well...
At least a Transnistruian pensioner can just cross the river to get their benefits.
>>65473958Varg Vikernes, i've read the book most of these were from.
>>65473963>There was a historian I read once who refused to cite page numbers. That guy was my heroStephen Ambrose
>>65473990No, they're beyond the East, they're not advancing in a direction, they have advanced beyond directions
>>65474008>>65474005Those are rookie numbers, we're gonna need to pump those numbers up
>>65473958It was from some commie thing, claimed that Stalin haters wouldn't care for sourcesIts also missing the Varg reincarnation quote
>>65473968A lot of Russia's extreme causalities are actual third worlders and prisoners
>>65474112So average Russians?
>>65473612Oh, thats the source... so the real mess must be some kind of special mess
>>65474131It's probably nothing but Russia indirectly admittign their last few km of 'advancing' was just made up BS.
>>65473689from a certain point of view. they could be going eastward until they're the ones approaching kiev from the west. do you have proofs this isnt the plan?
>>65474211>PlanWhat plan?
>>65474064Well, where are they advancing to, then?
>>65474343>Gaining clay May we see this? Be sure to include hundreds of large red arrows
>>65474359Russia is gaining clay in a rearward direction.5D chess in its purest form.Also, all the dead mobiks slowly turn Ukronazi clay into Russia clay.
>>65473612Is putin retarded or being lied to its been like 2 years of advances slower than WW1 but he insists on dragging it along longer than either world war for some reason? Its already worse than the Iran Iraq war but probably a perfect analogue
>>65474394He understands that if this ends, he will commit suicide.
>>65474416I understand the fear and rationale of this opinion but he could literally just Stalin purge anyone of value after ending this under the pretense of eradicating "war criminals found to not obey the rules of war" as both a internal and external cover and buys some good grace even if fake
>>65474435>but he could literally just Stalin purge anyone of valueNo, he couldn't. Good chance that starts a civil war, and the west fundamentally understands it's putin and not anyone else who caused the war. He wins or dies.
>>65474394he's hoping to grab the rest of donbabwe and luhganda so he can declare victory and pretend that was the plan all along. it's 5D chess
>>65474464They are not large enough. They need more arrows >>65474470
>>65474282Nothing, there is nothing out there except land, and birds, and mice
>>65474523Bad bait.
>>65474010Yeah there has been at least 3 more battles of that scale that I can recall since; avdiivka, vulehdar and PokrovskOn top of those, you've also got pre bakhmut engagements like Severaldonuts as well
>>65474520...and drones
>>65474573They are too stupid to stop commiting national suicide.
>>65474591Then why can't russia beat them after a longer span of time than WW1?
>>65474523>>65474573>>65474591>ukrainian can't fight for shits.im demoralized now, I say we let puccia occupy whatever they want. Lets stop resisting.
>>65474573The actually important question is: at what cost?
>>65474596>The actually important question is: at what cost?Thats where you are mistaken. Putin and saars dont care about the cost. All they need is projection of victory.
>>65474600So they're merely pretending to be retarded and purposefully fighting in extremely suboptimal ways?
>>65474604Exactly! Now you get it!
>>65474607One where you don't suffer 10 casualties for every ukrainian casualty?
>>65474582And about 20,000 tons of dead mobiksAnd a fire
>>65474011Imma be real with you: Russia is fucked.How do I know? Anecdotal evidence.I work as mid management type in public office in a eurocunt. I sign my name on granted social gibs like welfare payment, state sponsored elderly care in a retirement prison and so on.we had a crapload of russian show up in the past half year who all have a degree, don't speak a lick of english, german or french and just try to survive. All of them are bewildered that I just tell them get a job and still grant them welfare gibs, because the law's the law.One family who lives now in germany tries to drag their granny from some elite muscovite retirement prison to my cunt. Also they want gibs for that.Without even knowing how to get a demented old lady out of russia, onto a plane. also the planes don't directy fly to my cunt. the closest airport for a layover is Ankara. Like wtf are they doing.Shit is so bad in Russia, that relatives abroad try to drag demented grannies out of it.
>>65474600I am sure this is totally worth the price of a Million+ dead and wounded, thousands of traumatized and pissed off returning veterans, becoming a pariah state and a crashed economy and industry. It is worth it, right? Right?
>>65474624>Why dont you search the corpses exchange rate between Ukraine and Rusia?hahahahah retard
>>65474658>thrive>shocked others had full grocery stores
>>65473958
>>65474624And what’s the rate of Russian corpses being found in Russian lines?
>>65474607Pretty much anything other than meat waves where most of your personnel are droned before they ever get to the front lines. The casualty ratio is like 8:1 in Ukraine's favor.I'd start with air superiority, obviously. The fact that Russia never got air superiority is embarrassing enough.
>>65473794A while ago ISW wrote that Russian gains are slowing but that they're increasingly making claims that are disconnected from reality to maintain the image of success.
>>65474112>A lot of Russia's extreme causalities are [Russians]No shit Sherlock
>>65474653Nigga they can't vote. Nobody can vote unless you're a citizen. We have like an excess of 1 million adults who can't vote for various reasons including being a foreigner.
>>65473757>the blue chunk in the southhuh?
>>65474554Weren't the battles for Seversldonuts and Lepercunts the reason russia had an arty shell hunger? They shot like retarded amounts of shells daily and wore their barrels down like crazy.
>>65474601they might not, but the overall trajectory of the war does
>>65474624Look, we know Russia has a bigger population than Ukraine. We know Russia has pulled from prisons, foreign mercenaries, spends huge amounts on new soldiers, bought Norks and did scams to pull in thirdies. Thats a lot of meat.If casualties were even or even just slightly in Ukraines favor, then there would be no ukranian army left. The fact that Russia still has someone to fight and can't advance at any reasonable rate, means the casualty rates have to be heavily in Ukraines favour. We went over this a million times already.
>>65474717Why don't you call 117
>>65474712I'm not aware of any European country that allows non citizens to voteI'm not aware of any non European democracies that allow non citizens to vote either, but I'm less informed about those
>>65474714they played a role, the Russians were dropping north of 60k shells a day across the front at that stage of the warbut there were other important factors as well, such as all the shells lost during the initial HIMARS rampage and the development of the Ukrainian dispersed counter battery network
>>65474733May we see these million dead mercenaries?
>>65474717I accept your concession
>>65474747You're the retard claiming that Ukraine has higher losses than Russia lmaoFucking retard
>>65474035https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_E._AmbroseIn 2002, several instances of plagiarism were discovered in his books.[not verified in body] In 2010, after his death, Ambrose was found to have fabricated interviews and events in his biographies of Eisenhower.[not verified in body] Several of Ambrose's books—The Wild Blue, Undaunted Courage, Citizen Soldiers, and others—contained plagiarized passages,[47][2] a pattern that a Forbes investigation traced back to his doctoral dissertation.[3]"Oh, a bullshit artist?"
>>65474700Clearly a clever ruse so if and when Konstantiniyvka is actually finally captured we're surprised and caught off guard and will know everything about the eggs
>>65474739Why you bragging about killing civilians?
>>65474717We both know you've been told several times why the exchange rates are those ratios. You've also been told over and over why the same ratio is an impossibility for the casualties, cause then the Ukranian army would simply be gone and who the fuck is Russia fighting then? You better be getting paid for this or you need to get a better hobby.
>>65474717>Independent outlets scour russian SM for hundreds of thousands of russian deceased as evidence>meanwhile the primary zigger evidence is "well if you extrapolate from the exchange of bodies you will see that russia is winning"
>>65474733If Ukraines losses were bigger than Russias and they use mercenaries instead, then the majority of the forces fighting for Ukraine would be foreign mercenaries/volunteers by now. Which would mean we would see lots of footage of these foreigners, yet that is not the case. You just can't escape reality.
>>65474624>how come the attacker doesn't need to trade as many corpses as the defenderI swear ever since Russia broke the million casualties the corpse exchange rate had been the only cope you guys got.
>>65474790Russia is losing to an army of trannies?
>>65474790theres only been video evidence of russians butt fucking and giving each other blowjobs in the field though
>>65474769Non citizens are barred from voting in every US state and a federal law prohibits them from voting in federal elections
>>65474797You've been watching it happen for four years now
>>65474780You’re trying to hard
>>65474807>but I didnt have breakfast today
>>65474806>esl >forgot one fucking letterOh surely you know the entire complexities of the English language
>>65474797Here you go
>>65474786Honestly, this might actually, sorta-kinda be a valid point. Not the cope thing, but the thing where they see corpse exchange rates as cope. The Russians themselves DO NOT CARE how many of their own people they have to mulch. It's that morbid Russian mentality that human life, for them, is worthless. Even their own lives. Especially their own lives. And some nebulous idea about "Great Russia" is so much more important that of course you should mulch tons and tons of your own people if you can just say that "now Russia is greater. And it doesn't even matter if it actually is greater. As long as the lie "Russia is now greater" can not be (or is not dared to be) questioned, it's all right. It's all one giant death cult. Death cults do not care about corpse ratios. Until it can not be sustained, and it all comes crumbling down. At which point, you blame the perfidious Anglo-Saxons.
He’s going all out now
>>65474807If you talk the talk, walk the walk, you're an ESL vatnigger. It's been over 4 years, and here you're, gloating about killing civilians who refuse to be assimilated into the shit hole known as Russia by force. Russians need to be exterminated for the goodness of mankind, followed by Indians, just as a start
>>65474523Hi Copelord, are you done writing your Lolita offshoot?
>>65474784By them not looking like slavs and not speaking the local language. How do you think people tell Russians and Chechens apart. Or africans, asians, etc. Are you actually retarded? You think it would not be noticeable if 50+% of the army was non-ukranian.
>>65474814>perfidous AlbionWhy never the US? England is super irrelevant now. The US atleast still acts globally. Or did Khasham buckbreak the Kremlinoids too hard?
>>65474828You can't hear what language they speak through footage of them getting droned you dumb fuck
>>65474844US has saved russia from disaster 4 times in a century counting Trump
>>65474713Don't worry about it
>>65474844It goes all the way back to the colonial era and "The Great Game". England is, for Russia, just one of those old enemies that you love to hate. Americans are newcomers, and the threat they possess is mostly "Nuclear war". And if that happens, well... then you don't have to worry about it anymore because everything is ashes. So why worry about something that is not going to happen?But the Brits? Oh, the grudge goes DEEP.
>>65474844There could be US spies anywhere in Russia, they'd never know
>>65474824I think I'll send a donation to Azov or the birds instead. How many ziggers do you think $500 can kill?
>>65474868Hopefully a few considering it goes into their pool for making FPV's and its in for the mid-range drones they're still out there blowing up ships and trucker fuckingAt some point I'm going to save my pennies up for civilian aid too because winter is going to be tough for the old folks and kids
>>65474845You can see them though. You can hear people talk in combat footage, you can hear drone operators talk. Russia takes prisoners too, if most of them were foreigners it would be spammed in every single thread. Do you ever put a single thought into things?Russia has higher casualties. They are constantly on the offensive with tons of footage of disastrous attacks, their tactics are costly in lives, but somehow Ukraine who is on the defense and has many incentives to preserve lifes has higher casualties. I guess because of magic. And Russia is still mostly stuck despite having killed every Ukranian soldier two times over. I guess also because of magic. What retard logic is that.
>>65474875>But if we compare the percentage of casualties and number of active duty soldier...Russia has higher casulty rates by all metrics. Why do you think they're preparing for another mobilization? They have run out of meat doing literally every other way possible other than full mobilization.But you know this already, of course, and are merely raiding the board to try to piss some morons off.
>>65474875If you want anyone to engage with whatever lie you're pushing now then feel free to post numbers with sources, I'm not doing research to disprove something you just made up lmao
Think this is what's had the shills riled up?
What’s even the point of this. Tens of thousands of casualties for tiny villages
>>65474875Then what? Finish your thought. Are you too much of an imbecile to write a full argument with data and examples. If you can't do it just say so.
>>65474879The shills are always riled up these days.
>>65474884Have we approached the final stretch of this war? I haven't seen russian shills this on edge since fall of 2022.I kinda want russia to finally lose but then it's over. I don't want to shitpost about a sandwar. It's just not the same.
>>65474896>Have we approached the final stretch of this war?Lol nope. Brace yourself for yet another long winter of nothingburgers. This debacle is going to outlast the entire administration at the very leastWhen ziggers actually get eerily quiet is the sign to look out for when something actually happens
>>65474880Monke wants banan. Lives of all his serf Vanyas are worth it.>>65474896You might be in luck since a loss that big for Russia will result in a civil war, as per tradition>you now imagine Tatty Kim taking over the largest still standing Ozon warehouse with a band of purple-colored mercs and a Shilka
>>65473695Nigger, look where the east is on the map
Time to post 'that' greentext again it seems>cost of war outweighs benefits and potential profit by factor of 40>note, cost of WAR, not everything else>profits of land taken amount to approximately 5-6 billion in GDP per year (at peak production without all the facilities, resources, people who work and live there, support facilities, civil facilities and services, housing, stores, energy and hydro infrastructure and transportation being bombed out, looted, fucked up or fled the area)>cost of war assets alone amount 200 billion>cost of rebuilding potentially in the hundreds of billions, perhaps a few trillion>cost of relocation of workers to work those resources, cost of relocation of people to support those sectors and cost to relocate and house new military assets in those areas upwards of a few billion, possibly dozens of billions>oil industry both cripples and suffering from sanctions>every other industry that relied on trade basically dried up to skeletal levels>complete and total distrust on the international stage affecting trade and beneficiary deals>only 'friend' of worth left is china (who just wants the trade)>complete and total embarrassment and gutting of the military with refurbishment and replenishment costs exceeding upwards of 620 billion>hundreds of thousands killed, many more wounded who can no longer work and benefit to the russian economy, with the wounded being a further cost>many parts of the russian economy sufferings losses that will take decades to fully see profit from with what they could gain in ukraine>drive two of the most hard standing anti-russian but neutral standing nations into NATO>one of which is ready, willing, able and basically feral for the fight>and caused an upheaval in NATO military spending that, while slow and trundling, is shown to be both speeding up and improving in quality of industrial capability without the need to fight a war at the same time>'oh but dude russia got a big pile of dirt big win :D'
>>65474881Send in the cripple brigade!
>>65474909Z? More like Zzzzzz because these copypasta put me to sleep
>>65474918Man the way Russian shills so eagerly treat even their own as disposable trash is hilarious Why don’t you go to the front and die for Putin
>>65474724>I'm not aware of any non European democracies that allow non citizens to vote eitherNew Zealand allows you to vote if you're a Permanent Resident and have been here for a continuous year or more.
>>65474010I was under the impression that casualties have only increased over the last year or so, surely suggesting you are correct. Maybe not about the million kia thing but certainly that a lot of Russians have died.
>>65474924So russia is this fucked in a 'not war'? Hoo boy, imagine the fuck hole they'd become in a real war then.
>>65474929>casualties have only increased over the last yearHow tho? Russia has not mounted a major offensive since Avdiivka. Even Pokrovsk was fought over by feeding only small amounts of mobiks into the meatgrinder at a time with their infiltration tactics as far as I recall
>>65474881Russian disability and funeral statistics
>>65474936They do infiltration tactics across most of the front every single dayWhen you consider the front is a few hundred kilometers long that adds up quickly
>>65474918>There are no oportunity costs or losses of productivity, wealth creation, and spending power associated with the death of a human Get a load of this economically illiterate retard
>>65474924No war in Mosque Ow Se, amirite?
>>65474936>Russia has not mounted a major offensive since Avdiivka.False. There has been Kharkiv '24 '25 '26, Sumy '23-26, Lyman 22-26, Zapo '23-26. You may think they're not offensives because they achieve absolutely fuck all for the offensive power invested in them. You're thinking of an offensive as "something happens" while the Russian practical version is "Russians die and lose material in hilarious quantities for some square meters of farmland"
>>65474713https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-has-retaken-745-sq-km-precision-operation-this-year-zelenskiy-says-2026-08-12/
>>65474936Russia has attempted major offensive operations, its just that they're much less visible and impactful now they're out of proper equipment. They're sending more men into the meat grinder for less gain while ukranian tactics and drones have improved massively when compared with the start of the war. Not to mention that Ukraine adopted a new strategy that is essentially "kill as many orcs as realistically possible" in the hopes that they can attrite them to the point they can no longer fight effectively. Wether or not this works long term remains to be seen but they are absolutely managing to kill or injure more Russians than Putin can recruit currently.
>>65474949All of those are productive assets and consumers, you stupid fucking nigger. Once you kill a serf or an illiterate retarded Vanya, that serf will never be used for slave labour again. Do you understand this basic concept? You're also thinking that some Russian in Mosqueow is ubermensch when they're also just another version of buckbrolem subhuman Asiatic mystery meat. Nevertheless, if you kill off your subhuman production and consumer units, you will literally not have an economy.
>>65474945>Kharkiv '24 '25 '26For years zig shills crow about "massive gains across the entire front!" and yet Kharkiv (the city not just the oblast) is still there. It's 40km from the Russian border to downtown KharkivIt's like if the US military invading from San Diego couldn't even capture Tijuana.
>>65474936Russia has been on a non stop offensive for years now. They simply lost the abbility to perform big armored pushes forever ago. But they attack everywhere with small units.
>>65474958Oh no.. Ukro bro.. how could this be? Buda must be lying right?
>see OP with big ass meme arrows>open thread figuring something must finally be happening in this quagmire of a war>it's just yet another thread of slavs shitflinging claiming russia has suffered a billion casualties actually and posting literal copy pastasLamest war ever I swear, though America is absolutely trying their hardest to give it a run for it money
>>65474844US is monkeperiums ultimate life insurance. When everything falls really apart, americans will do everything in its power to keep it together
>>65474955Kharkiv is one of those places that eats invaders, some of the shit fights between commies and nazis during WW2 were off the fucking hook nutsGeographically, large amounts of the landscape turns into funnels as people, like water hate going the 'too-hard way' and from memory, there's no easy way around that even if you booked it down south and came in from the east, west or southern approaches. Its all bad!Sorta why the last time Russia decided "YEAH lets take Kharkiv!" they made it about 10km across the border before getting fucked in every hole
>>65474896They are building up the propaganda narrative to conduct some limited strike on one of the baltics. Monke has only one gear and its escalation. If anything happens its going to be after the next meat round up this fall
>>65474918then what are (you) still posting here? the glory of the monkeperium calls
>>65474966Russia has always had that one gear of escalation, anyone else tries it and they go poor victim mode of poor rasha never invade or bother anyone starting warsIts all very tiresome, hence why the entire country needs to be burned to ash
>>65474966>conduct some limited strike on one of the balticsI would give my left nut to see footage of mobiks getting droned trying to float over the Peipus on crocodile pool floaties and inner tubes
>>65474958>Mandick the serb homo at it again
>>65474963Why does the American political class love the Russian subhumans so much?
>>65474975The American political class is gay, and hates the American people, especially the smart and brave ones. They wish they could clamp down on us with real impunity like the kremlin can.
>>65474975Many jews on both sides
>>65474975Man in charge unironically runs on Kremlin logic, from spending years in Moscow doing lines and fucking small children.As evidenced by the fact that he's shit at doing his actual job. But he's great at stacking the deck around him with friends or plants so he's safe from critique.But because of this Kremlin-logic, rest of the world that isn't paranoid and manipulative and backstabbing is scary and uncertain, but Kremlin and Rooseya stronk and make sense and safe.
>>65475001This goes way back before Trump though.
>>65474975Americans are a lot of things but the higher you go the more arrogant and grifty they seem to getEnded up deluding themselves that they can turn Russia into something that's not a piss soaked, frozen dump into a place to make money before anyone else and be first in. Course there's that other unfortunate part where history and failure isn't studied nearly as much to understand that Russia is and always will be a piss soaked, frozen swamp full of fucking troglodytes
>>65474972Didn't he die last week?
>>65474966>The BalticsWill the EU and NATO pussy out or finally btfo puccia? I'm kinda sick of brazen russian sabotage attacks or a fucking rocket smashing into an empty field and nobody does shit because escalator management.
>>65475001This fetishization of Russian subhumans by yanks go way beyond orange man though. The USA has saved Russians from annihilation three or four times in the last century: WW1, WW2, 90s and arguably trying to do it right now too.
>>65474814>The Russians themselves DO NOT CARE how many of their own people they have to mulch.>It's that morbid Russian mentality that human life, for them, is worthless. Even their own lives. Especially their own lives. And some nebulous idea about "Great Russia" is so much more important that of course you should mulch tons and tons of your own people if you can just say that "now Russia is greater.This point might hold water, except over a million men between the age of 20-35 NOPEd right the fuck out of Russia at the first mobilization. Some trickled back when it felt safe but a lot are still sitting this one out in places like Mexico, Thailand, Brazil etc. (I've been a dedicated and engaged sex tourist [three times a year, every year] for 20 years and I've NEVER seen as many young Russian guys around the usual haunts as I do now), I don't think anyone knows how many are still outside Russia. And the RUMOURS of another mobilizatiopn touched off another exodus, with Russia border posts with Georgia and Azerbaijan seeing 10-15 hour car queues. This idea Russians will sacrifice anything for greater Russia doesn't hold water anymore. The recruits they get now are the poor who simply don't have the option to flee and desperately need the money. And there's not enough of them either anymore.
>>65475018They also stabilized the USSR during the 1920s and helped industrialize it.
>>65475023I am demoralized. We should not waste time and fight the mighty bear of Russia. We should surrender to save lives! Us Europeans are so weak and feminine and gay unlike manly burly Russian bear!t. Igor from Latvia oblast
>>65475025There's some fun rumours circulating that the Rus government might pull the pin on people outside the countries passports, bank finances and consular bans as part of their 'Traitor Law' passed in 2026. So if you end up either stateless or deported back to the piss swampThey also annulled a lot of the Internal Passports to stop people from traveling outside their local cesspit
>>65475032Yeah, the problem with that is that all of that is easily fixable with a moderate bribe. So again, you're only going to catch the poor and stupid and you already got most of them.
>>65475017I, for one, want them to try it with Finngols since they are the only ones besides Ukraine who dabbled pretty hard into dronesSo that when (not even if, when) that STD bumrush fails, it will be yet another russian humiliation recorded for generations to come
>>65475032I know a lot of russian expats from Dagestan. They all told me this summer is the last time they could visit their families without getting bussed. So no idea what is coming, but the average rus knows something is up.
>>65475043Hence why they will go for some chump like latvia or estonia instead
>>65473689Columbus planned to take a small detour and attack the muslims from behind, where they least expected it. Instead, he discovered America. Russians already know where America is, and the have taken it into accoun. Soon, the offensive for Uzhgorod will start blyat
>>65474999Nah, the US mediated an extremely pro-Russian peace treaty in 1905. At that point in time the Russian government was straight up doing test runs of what the Germans did in the 1930s. Pogroms and extreme government repression of Jews. So many Eastern European Jews living in the US in the first place is a result of Russian pre-WW2 policies.>>65474975Russia is located perfectly to annoy anyone the US deems a threat in both Europe and Asia.In the 1900s it was to annoy the Japanese.During WW1 it was to mess with the Germans.In the 1930s it was again to annoy with the Japanese.Then in the 1940s it was to screw over the Germans.There was then the 1945-91 period when the plan backfired and Russia did become a problem for the US.During the 90s, 00s and 10s the US didn't really have much of a geopolitical rival. So they left Russia alone for the most part.In the 2020s Russia is now useful again to annoy the Europeans and potentially the Chinese as well. The later part of the plan seems to be backfiring since Russia is slowly becoming a Chinese satellite state.>>65474844>Why never the US?Russians believe Americans are idiot cowboys. No way these hicks with a country that's only 250 years old can avhieve anything. Clearly there must be a mastermind behind it all. And who else but perfidous Albion?
>>65474033Which book is that?
>>65475032in certain countries being stateless entitles you to citizenship, the bank stuff is more concerning
>>65474875Well maybe if you swithed to Base 3 math, then subdivided and reclassed the numerative...Nope.Russia is still a goddamn disaster even if I don't carry the чeтыpe.
>>65475054Some (not all i think) are from Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia. It is actually decent, he is not entirely retarded. I had an issue with buying it directly from his vender in France so i messaged with him for a bit and ended up having an academic talk. At the time i owned a full 14 volume unabridged copy of the Golden Bough and he couldn't access one, it is pretty rare in complete form.
>>65475060Since the Russians that GTFO are the smart and competent ones, taking them in is probably a net gain for many countries.They're not like the brown/muslim refugee waves coming into Europe in that sense.
>>65474997>the smart and brave oneName one that's not a gay sucking dick lover faggot that will sell out his country like Snowden did
Fuel status?
>>65474881Take the current authorised maximum strength of the Russian army and compare it to the number of soldiers they claim to have recruited, keeping in mind as you do that everyone who joins is in for the duration unless they become a casualtyThe Russian MODs own numbers indicated 1,000,000+ casualties as early as late 2024
>>65475167The video is much funnier.
>>65474896right now I suspect they have been ordered into shill overdrive in preparation for the "election", Putin needs to manufacture some "civic consent" for his planned mobilisation
>>65474921Russia sent their best all the way back in 2022, cripples and retards are all they have left
>>65473953>bix nookI think I found the anti-satellite weapon used, pic related
>>65474879There’s no shortage of things to rile them up now.
>>65475173>Another great and successful landing!Hope the trees are ok
>>65475173Is new method of trimming trees. HATO trannies wouldn't understand.
>>65474033>make a citation saying you won't bother with sources since nobody reads citations anyway>actually nobody reads your book except for the funny citationFate has a sense of humor
>>65474923fascinating, its always a good day when I learn something new
>>65474958Isn't budanov the head of GUR?
>>65475032>Internal PassportsThe fuck?
>>65475017The U.S. would respond, if its one of the Baltic states housing U.S. troops. This of course will be met with the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth from the EU however.
>>65475197Peons aren't allowed to cross internal borders.
>>65475197Welcome back, serfdom.
>>65475197russia is basicly a shitload of autonomous regions anon some of them needs a passportsome of them also needs you to pass a background check from the fsb i went to yamalo years ago thinking that a passport was enough and was told to go back to moscow to the fsb office to get permission
>>65475197Autocratic states like to restrict the internal movement of their "citizens" as a way of limiting political communication and organisation at a grassroots level, China does it too and Iran probably does it as wellhaving the right to move freely around the country is very much a modern liberal democratic thing. Historically you, a commoner, would be bound by law to whatever patch of dirt you happened to be born on and thus the authority of whatever noble happened to own it
>>65475167>>65475173This has to be a new low, no pun intended
>>65475187Besides Burzum royalties his mythology books are his biggest seller, they are half decent and would probably be mildly successful even if he wasn't who he is. His RPGs suck though.
>>65474601>Putin and saars dont care about the costAnd eventually that attitude will hang them, which is why Ukraine has a strategy to make this cost that they don't care about, the bottleneck of their advances and what Russia must buy every km of clay with.Put it another way, if you're a retailer and your marketing expert tells you that customers see transactions paid with a credit card as being 50% as much as transactions made with cash and suddenly you're going to have a whole new sales strategy based around rewarding customers for using credit cards because they spend twice as much in your store.Now monke has a credit card that he believes is actually free, he doesn't have to spend paper money to get banan, the bank just tells the store to give him banan.So the store is giving him banan and charging exorbitant rates to his Bank of Russian Men and the Bank just keeps approving the transfers.Eventually, that account is going to hit zero and he won't be able to buy banan any more. The bank has taken a look at his finances and is already reducing the size of transaction that they'll approve and he's getting less and less banan from the store each visit.
>>65474642>Shit is so bad in Russia, that relatives abroad try to drag demented grannies out of it.Counterpoint, another body means another welfare cheque.They only need to give her a room, a tv and/or smartphone, and buckwheat, and she's happy and will probably cook borsch for them. They can keep the rest of the payment and supplement their own welfare.
>>65475032Did this man inherit the total empathy of the Russian people?
>>65474923>New Zealand allows you to vote if you're a Permanent Resident and have been here for a continuous year or more.That seems like a very bad idea.
>>65475266Da Igor, that is exactly what the monolith known as /k/ believes.
>>65475173there's an open field right there.
>>65473929>khokholnet
>>65475266yes, the whole /k/ is against you, look outside your window, there is also /k/ waiting for you
>>65474010>About 50,000 Wagner KIA in Bakhmut aloneNot in all of Bakhmut actually, _one axis of attack on Bakhmut alone_
>>65474115Lel
>>65475193>Isn't budanov the head of GUR?No, he's Zelenskyy's chief of staff.Essentially Hand of the King.
>>65474724there's two categories of foreigner voting in the EU.citizens of other EU countries are allowed to vote in local elections and EU elections in their country of residence if they meet certain residency requirements.some EU countries allow non citizen permanent residents to vote in local elections no EU country allows non citizens to vote in national electionsif you want an interesting factoid.the pope is also the elected head of state of the Vatican and practically none of the electorate have Vatican citizenship
>>65475205>apparently it continued till this morning when the police showed up to calm them all or try toI'm surprised shills aren't more on top of this, it seems like a perfect scandal to show Ukraine as corrupt and incomeptent.Zelenskyy was forced to publicly admonish both agencies and Budanov made some public statements too. They leaked that Zelenskyy lost his shit with the heads, which will certainly be a strategic leak but seems likely regardless.One HUR guy is dead, two injured.
>>65475276>there's an open field right there.I don't think they had the altitude left to get there.That was probably partly autorotation.
>>65475198>The U.S. would respondWith another Anchorage Agreement?Or do you think Putin will come up witrh another humiliation ritual for Donnie to remind him of who holds the kompromat?
>>65474852>It goes all the way back to the colonial era and "The Great Game". England is, for Russia, just one of those old enemies that you love to hate.It's older than that actually. Ivan the Terrible had correspondence with Elizabeth I about possible marriage and possible asylum in Britain (shit was bad in muscovy back then) and supposedly got ass blasted when marriage was denied and asylum was agree only if he'd financially support himself. He sperged out about "you're not a real monarch" and such.
>>65475205russia had Prigozhinukraine decided to shit on them and do whatever the fuck this is
>>65475294>I'm surprised shills aren't more on top of thisgive it time. takes a while before everyone gets their script
>>65475296It looks like a rollout after touching down in autorotation.Then the rotor hits the trees and they end up in the ditch.I mean, it is kinda embarassing to just run out of fuel but that really points at maintenance fuckups, you'd have to be a retard to lift off with too little fuel.>it's Russiawelp
>>65474862So that's where all the mobik rations went
>>65474713Kurds
>>65475320>Then the rotor hits the trees and they end up in the ditch.>I mean, it is kinda embarassing to just run out of fuel but that really points at maintenance fuckups, you'd have to be a retard to lift off with too little fuel.According to zigger-bomber, the helo was avoiding the truck and had to hit the tree.He also said that it crashed 5km from the airfield due to fuel exhaustion that shut down both engines.And I agree, it was likely momentum from autorotation dumped into forward flight to bleed it off and hopefully end up on the road where they could be easily recovered/refueled.
>>65475330>But the fact that the GUR has entire units that accept orders for contract killings is no secret to anyone anymore.Big if true.
>>65475265Shit he may well have run off with all of their common sense
>>65475299>Russia bombs german Airports and factories >silence>Russia bum rushes U.S. troops and sabre rattles against Europe>Gets BTFO and cut off from the European market forciblyThe only Nato nations that have actually stood up to Russia in the modern era is the burgers, and roaches. No amount of whataboutism changes that
>>65475173in post soviet russia helicopters drive on roads
>>65475185https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JfHudxB1fo
>>65475385>The only Nato nations that have actually stood up to Russia in the modern era is the burgers, and roaches. No amount of whataboutism changes thatShow tankers
>>65475330>until the West changes power, and it will change quite soonYes, soon (in two weeks) the West will see Russia's raised eybrow and everyone will know everything
>>65475385>Russia bombs german Airports and factoriesmay we see those Russian attacks?
>>65474844Because they view us in continuity with the British.
>>65474394>Is putin retarded or being lied to Both.
>>65475060That's why it's not real statelessness, they leave you with Russian citizenship but no papers, so local authorities wrongly assume Russia is like a normal country and tell you to go to your consulate/embassy to get the documents replaced.
>>65473612Slava UkrainiSimple as.02.09.2026Tanks — 12324 (+4)Armored fighting vehicle — 25263 (+6)Artillery systems — 49016 (+62)MLRS — 2081 (+2)Anti-aircraft warfare — 1598 (+1)Planes — 440Helicopters — 354Ground robotic systems — 2464 (+12)UAV — 494146 (+1969)Cruise missiles — 5070 (+10)Ships (boats) — 35Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 142715 (+383)Special equipment — 4625 (+2)Military personnel — aprx. 1491030 people (+1390)
>>65475173absolute state
Still crazy how this war is still ongoing. Makes me wonder what things would be like if Wagner group rebellion was successful.
>>65475173Russian dashcams never disappoint
>>65475197The most recent thing is that during 1932 the soviet union created internal passports (basically IDs on steroids) as a way to control the movement of people inside the country:- since the rural areas were robbed blind by the state to pay for industrialization (and feed the industrial labor force), it left the rural areas turbo-fucked (the peak of this being ukies getting genocided by an artificial terror-famine);- people would thus try to leave the rural areas and move to cities, since at least laborers there would get special certificates that would allow them to get bread and thus they wouldn't die from hunger;- however, if everyone would leave the rural areas, it would leave the state without either food for industrial labor force or export money from the grain being exported, since nobody would work in the farms and produce grain;- thus, people had to be "attached" to the land a similar manner as it was during serfdom and using what was known as "the passport system" was chosen as a way to do this;
>>65475173I want to give them the benefit of the doubt that this was an emergency landing but with this clown war I can't tell anymore.
I don't get why Putin won't just Pretend He Won and dare people to try and say otherwise. It's not like the Russian people have any balls left.
cont. >>65475670Basically:- a person couldn't really leave his rural town or village without having an internal passport, well technically he could, but they'd easily be stopped by the first cop who notices them and asked to provide documents and since they wouldn't be able to show their passport they'd get turbofucked instantly;- that's why men would carry passports in their everyday life with them all the day until USSR collapsed, since cops checking your documents for any bullshit reason was common, many people still do this because it got so ingrained, however the passport became "just an id", even if people still were too eager to request it for retarded reasons in daily life;- this was compounded by the "propiska" (pro-pee-ska) system, basically a very invasive and rigid system of registration of your place of residency, i.e. even if you had a passport but it was registered in a different city, the cops would have questions for you about why the fuck are you in the wrong place, yes it was a thing;- without having the local "propiska" you wouldn't be able to access or use anything, be it getting a local job, receive medical care, get housing (or rather getting into a queue system to wait or it lol), get your kid into school or kindergarten, get a new passport, move or even just be in any large city for more than a few days, etc;- people could technically travel outside their towns and villages, usually by receiving special temporary permits for specific usage, e.g. a farm sends their mechanic to the neighboring city gives him a document about it ("hurr-durr Ivan from Bumfuckville can travel to Bumfucktown during September 2th - September 5th for work reasons of getting parts for tractor"), but generally shit was controlled and oppressive as fuck;
>>65475173Final Destination-tier shit
>>65475691He can't, his power base has eroded to the point where other oligarchs could band together to have him replaced.And Xi has Russia bent over a barrel either way.
>>65475266>c-call me a zigger, i-i don't careyou do and are seething kek.
cont. >>65475701So how specifically the rural population was controlled by this passport system? Easy: the state didn't issue them passports lmao. Technically the document exists and people can get them, but not for you, you're of a wrong class (so much for classless society lmao), you don't get a passport retard. This changed during 1976 - 1981, when USSR finally started to issue passports to rural folk. Yes, 1980s. Really.But yeah, these internal passports were known by locals as just "passports", and thus real passports in a western sense of the word were thus known as "foreign passports" (or "passports for foreign travel"), and getting one was even harder kek. But even so, a passport in USSR was a very invasive element of control. They didn't just use the system to force the rural folk to stay in the farms working for nothing, but also to remove those whom they deemed undesirable from the cities. You just don't issue a passport to a person who's already living in the city and boom - he can't live there legally and has to leave or face punishment. Yes, this actually was done.And even when shit slowly got relaxed over the decades some elements would still be fucked up, e.g. cities like mosqueov would have their own local "propiska", so that people from the neighboring cities wouldn't be able to move there (because life was better in mosqueov due to distribution of financing and resources) of their own choice or desire. To the point that there was a system of "second-class" mosqueov residents called "limita" (limit-ah), basically some enterprises which weren't able to get enough locals would be allowed to hire people from outside mosqueov up to a specific quota (known as "limit"), with those people moving to mosqueov and having to work in those enterprises for N years (usually 5 or more) before they'd actually get a local "propiska". Real shit.
>>65475197China has this too.Peons are not allowed to move to cities so the countryside stays populated (and poor) and there will be a reserve of desperate people for manufacturing companies to exploit.It rarely gets talked about but it's completely normal over there and one of those things that makes the skin of anyone who grew up with FREEDOM crawl.
>>65475691He took loans from people you do NOT fuck with, and those people do not accept fiat currency.
>>65475173lmao the truck moved 5 centimetres to the right and exclaimed "that's it! not my problem" helifag could've probably avoided the trees and subsequently the ditch had he actually had a free road to land onclassic zigger shenaningans
>>65475766>Peons are not allowed to move to cities so the countryside stays populated (and poor) and there will be a reserve of desperate people for manufacturing companies to exploit.Adding to this - competition in China is hard because if you are stuck in the countryside, you will be stuck there FOREVER.
>>65475691He really believes schizo shit he does, so either he wins or dies trying. It ends when he ends.>>65475718Yeah dumbass. Oligarchs would already topple him if they could, they don't like losing money.
>>65475595Where Syria?
>>65475767Interdimensional demons are not people.
>>65475173I'd be shitting bricks, fucking leaving my vehicle and jumping into a ditch on the opposite side if i was driving on that road with a car.
>>65475770It's either a "and wut ya gunna do pidoras)))" or a "zis road for truck not heli cumrad!!"
>>65475807But their makers are. So are human sorcerers """helping""" him with all the sincerity of a mob moneylender.
>>65475385funny how it turns out to be russia a day after the opinion poll showing merz quite literally at 14% making him the most unpopular chencelor ever
>>65475799>Assad and the Baath party
>>65475856That December was glorious.
>>65475205>unironically linking to a pedo russian propagandist
>>65475718>his power base has eroded to the point where other oligarchs could band together to have him replacedThey already would have if they could.Whoever makes the first move will be torn down by the rest and used as a scapegoat for the failure of the SMO which would surely have won in just two more weeks if it weren't for the wreckers and factionalists.The oligarchs would literally crab-bucket the crab that saved them.
>>65475896>google his name>his half sister sued him both in russia and in netherlands>lost both cases cause the evidence she presented wasnt her on the videos or him hmm yeah
>>65475718>oligarchs could band together to have him replacedAnd do what? Continue the pointless and costly war?
>>65473689Globe is round comrade. Hohols will not expect attack from the west )))
>>65475924>guy is a russian stooge who lives abroad with a ton of money>had issues with the law in ukraine even pre-2014>his own sister said that she observed CP on his laptop multiple times>there's obviously no physical evidence because she didn't take away the laptop from him at the timebruh, you'll be saying that the russian stood isn't a pedo? that would be a first
>>65475900>They already would have if they could.That is the point. Right now, they cannot. But if there is some sort of prolonged ceasefire, peace process or whatever bullshit term they select, the oligarchs will start to recover and regain power, and tehy will begin to actively work on replacing Putin.That is why Putin cannot stop the fighting, as soon as it stops the danger for him personally will begin to increase exponentially. And it will more likely than not mean his death.
>>65475950>uses a ukranian source that provides zero evidence instead of the actual cases
>>65475767>He took loans from people you do NOT fuck withWhat kind of fever dream did you just wake from?>>65475888>at it againThat's the tail end of the same incident.>>65475953>the oligarchs will start to recover and regain power, and tehy will begin to actively work on replacing PutinI think they'd be working on making money as quickly as possible.Replacing a bad president is definitely on the cards but that's kind of a longer term problem.
>>65474394Putins generals and officers are lying about progress for a few different reasons.>Fear of repercussionsIf they don’t report things are going swimmingly they make their bosses look bad. If they make their bosses look bad they get put on the front lines or recalled.>ProfitThe Russian officers often extort their soldiers for their pay. Higher value technicians and such constantly are getting their paychecks taken and if they decline or can’t pay enough it’s off to the slaughter house
RCBS is still holding its ground.
>>65475906qrd?
>>65476336>reee why dem jannies deleting my derailing attemptI pray your family dies tonight.
>>65476190
>>65476155i mean even deepstatemap shows progress so..
>>65475765>>65475701>>65475670I read this and just want to thank you for writing it. No idea if this is legit or not but it's funny and suits my narrative so I'll believe it.
>>65475167>>65475173that had to be a joke, right?you know you need X amount of fuel for the fight, but your boss gives you X-Y amount and you just shrug and take off?i don't believe it, it's too fucking stupid even for the pidors
>>65475283tbf it was the MAIN axis, and likely constituted 70-90% of casualties if I had to guess. But yes there is a strong chance russia took more KIA in Bakhmut than the city had pre-war population, lol
>>65474880Monke recently said to his close suite that unless the Donbas is eventually conquered he WILL hang.He's fucking scared and cornered. That's also why I'm afraid that further escalation being it low yield nukes or attacking Baltics is his only option now. He can't deescalate, he clearly can't keep it as it is. Further escalation it is than.
>>65476574It's more likely that they have cut their safety margins to the absolute bone to conserve fuel, and for some reason (unexpected weather, they did a an unscheduled move etc.) they burned more than they expected to.It may be that Russian helicopters and planes are now routinely landing on fumes to try and conserve fuel as much as possible.
>>65476574>>65476596They are importing aviation fuel from worst Korea, they might legitimately just not have enough.
>>65476623>nation of plentiful gas and oil deposits>nation of aggressive military expansion>can't produce enough oil or gas for your military
>38 deleted posts>bunch of unrelated bullshit to the war They are NOT happy about the 2000 Russians getting surrounded.
>>65476590That's why Ratcliffe was sent to Moscow to once again remind putin:"Don't. Don't do it. Don't think about doing it. Don't bullshit yourself into believing you will in any way improve your situation by pressing that button. Any of your lackeys try to tell you otherwise, they're hoping to be your replacement. The nukes fly, and you die. Capisce?"The important thing is that monkey must be convinced that turning the war internal (i.e. slaughtering endless numbers of the desperate or the ambitious who will turn against him) is preferable over doing the funny.But because he is *not* a rational player (let alone a well-informed one) the message has to be repeated over and over, or in his panic he might think he'd get away with it.
>>65476521I'm a boomer born in USSR, always ready to drop some commie lore
>>65476574Most likely fuel was diluted (e.g. you steal 20% of the fuel and dilute it with water), so that the volume is the same but it can't produce the same amount of power and thus runs out faster.
>>65476590>eventually conqueredThat's a nebulous thing to say. That's like saying>I'm gonna die some dayOkay, cool? Putin is only telling that because they know if Putin goes, they have to start sucking up to the new guy and the new guy might hate them, so support me or bye bye gravy train. Because that's a fucking vague timeline. That could be 2040 for all he cares. Or 2050. The EU planned for the war to end in 2030. So is it 2030? Is it four more years of shit? Putin can easily just claim he achieved his goals of protecting Russian speakers and denazifying Ukraine and preventing NATO bases and just pull out.
>>65476657>Putin can easily just claim he achieved his goals of protecting Russian speakers and denazifying Ukraine and preventing NATO bases and just pull out.No, he can't. Russia has been continually mobilized and brought into the war economy and mindset. Many russians genuinely support the war and are only upset they haven't won yet like they're supposed to have.Pulling out means the economy immediatly implodes, politics implode, and the people are rioting, and the Ukranians will take that for the sign of weakness it is and continue to try and liberate territory.
>>65475299If a NATO member gets attacked and lights the beacons we are treaty-bound to ride to their aid. So far nobody has actually triggered article 5 over shit falling in their country or acts of sabotage thus nothing continues to happen. The Romanians have probably had the best excuses but aren't willing to actually do it. Not even after a drone smacked an apartment building in Galati. Russia has been playing a dangerous game lobbing shaheds at Ukrainian cities on the western border for years but nobody's really punished them for fuck ups yet which is likely to just make them bolder about it.Assuming Putin really does have serious blackmail materials on the president you need to understand "kompromat" doesn't matter when you finally have the excuse you need to just straight up publicly kill the guy holding it. Article 5 is a death sentence for Putin if you're right about the relationship. It's also easy to deflect any released materials because of fucking course the Russians are going to try and make you look bad with everything they can put together in photoshop before the first tomahawks hit. Blackmail only works if the victim cannot freely act in their own favor. Giving them a legitimate and legal excuse to publicly Mozambique you is the end of the game.
>>65476667So what's the end goal here? Keep going until it's done and hope Ukraine accepts it? Because the alternative is a forever war until he dies, a literal forever war. If he pulls out he can at least show humility and the West might throw him a bone (USA defo will under Trump) but if he just keeps trying he's trying in the hope as soon as the oblasts are painted red he can click the menu button to sue for peace and the world accepts the new territory.
>>65476716>So what's the end goal here?Ook ook.There was no backup plan to the initial plan failing, certainly not for the war lasting this long. There is no goal, no plan, no reserve to fall back on. There is only continual reactive behavior.
>>65476711Except Article 5 is specifically just about support. A few drones flying into apartment buildings isn't enough to actually do anything. Sure you can call Article 5 but the rules state that 'military action' is 'up to' part. Not the default. Which means that NATO can fulfil its obligations by providing medical care, supplies or putting AA units on the border, along with thoughts and prayers. There is no obligation or method for every NATO member to unilaterally declare war on the aggressor and attack + move to Moscow.Every time something has happened of actual note it has been swept under the rug. Poland has been hit directly by Russia to prevent transports of stuff and it was hushed up as 'accidental' or 'from Ukraine not Russia'. The Russians locked onto a RAF aircraft - twice - an act of war in and of itself and fired a missile - twice - at the aircraft and it was only due to counter-measures and poor maintenance on the second missile that nothing happened. Bongs covered it up until the flight audio leaked which showed it wasn't a 'malfunction' like the government had said, but a direct attack. It was hand waved as an 'error of one pilot' and nothing further happened. Nobody in NATO wants to actually fight Russia. So they'll do everything in their power to avoid it.Even if Russia marched across the border into the Baltic states you can bet your ass they will go>They started it, we're defending ourselvesJust like they did with Finland in the 30's. This then means NATO has to investigate this and prove it because you can't go and defend the Baltic states if they started it! So NATO doesn't stop the Russians to 'avoid bloodshed' and then they entrench and set up AA and oops 'don't want to die for the Baltics' pops up in Berlin and Paris.
>>65473690>hfw I use my good boy points to buy more good boy points
>>65476741
>>65476654Or cut with Euro 4 or whatever Sulphur water they call fuel these days.
>>65476745LmaoNow THIS is kino
>>65475701propiska still exists btw, I literally have it in my internal passport to this day, that system became a bit less restrictive but is still there>>65476716hoping for a miracle, they thought the Iran war would be one, but oil prices are stubbornly below the 130-150 per barrel neededi havent posted in over a year what the fuck is this new captcha
>>65476716>end goalIt is the 21st Century. For more than 25 years The Monkey has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Russia. He is the Master of Ruskind by the will of the Siloviki, and master of millions of square miles of useless land by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a botoxed carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of the Soviet Union. He is the Loser Lord of the Federation for whom a thousand mobiks are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly lose.To be a russian in such times is to be one amongst untold millions. It is to live in the gayest and most retarded regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim darkness of the present, there is only war. There is no peace amongst the East European Plain, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of those hungry for banan.
>>65476753Euro-4 is actually good compared to shit which was used during the late 90s and early 20s. Even Euro-2 was even good compared to that.
>>65476785I strongly suspect it has alot to do with Soviet era engines being able to handle fuel with low vaporization points due to having really shitty and wasteful carburetors while modern Asian imports with fuel injection just can't use it.
>>65476817Soviet fuel was turbo shit both in terms of specs and actual quality. Since day one actually. Lenin was riding around in Rolls Royces the engines of which got fucked up by carbon and order sort of build up from the local fuel lmao. So yeah, soviet engines were designed to work with that crap, hence soviet engines were perpetually underpowered. I remember how 76 octane gasoline (which was used in the 30s and 40s in western countries) was considered "high octane" and "good" up until the mid 80s or something like that, and even then it wasn't instantly phased out and still was used up until 90s.
>>65476738This reads like very wishful thinking at best. Again, if Putin really does have some serious kompromat on Trump there's no better excuse for Trump to just go all in and waste him. If not that's still an ally being attacked and if we just cram our thumbs up our asses as an ally gets invaded the entire alliance collapses. The US not taking military action when an ally article 5s is the effective end of NATO, especially when they responded when we called on them after 9/11. Nations will leave and enemies won't take it or other US alliances seriously anymore.>every NATO memberIs not even necessary. The US, UK, Germany, France, Poland, Romania, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Lithuania, and Latvia are pretty much guaranteed and at this point I'd wages the Poles could handle it on their own. Between those that share a border and expect to be next and the heavy hitters of the alliance you'd be fucked. The idea that you could just invade a NATO member and nobody would do anything is downright hilarious. I sincerely doubt there would need to be investigation period because what kind of absolute retard would actually believe Estonia would have attacked first? The only way Russian troops are getting shot at by Estonians is if they invaded Estonia or otherwise attacked it first.Article 5 is not automatic. The call actually has to go out from the attacked party. Poland, Romania, and the Bongs clearly don't see what's happened so far as worth going to war over. With increased Russian boldness over nothing really happening in response there's an always increasing risk that it won't just be one drone aimed at Reni that missed their way into Galati houses or someone may actually get shot down. If missiles connected and a brit pilot died it would've very likely been on.The escalation will likely continue until Comrade Conscriptovich fucks up really bad or Putin gives a really fucking dumb order mistakenly believing that because nothing has happened nothing will happen.
>>65476834Older carburetors can run on pretty shitty fuel, i once didn't have enough gas to get to town in my 1985 F250 so i mixed some 106LL octane i had for old yard tools 50/50 with Coleman camp fuel (white gas, 55 octane) and it ran just fine.
>>65476745Who is she again?
>>65473872Why the unicorn emoji?
>>65476907gaaaaaaayyyy
>>65476862Xev Bellringer
>>65476849I mean Article 5 has been called before but it doesn't result in what we think it would mean. Russia is perfidious and just like Winter War, they shelled their own village and claimed it was Finland. It took weeks to prove it wasn't and by then the war had started.
i hate russia and enjoy watching mobiks get killed
>>65476939Article 5 has only been formally invoked once by the US after 9/11. You're possibly thinking of article 4 instead.The winter war was long before effective surveillance and rapid data sharing we enjoy today. The exact same event today would very likely be noticed before the first shells fired. It'd probably be noticed before the guns were even in position. A buildup of artillery anywhere near the border, especially with any recent saber rattling and the Ukraine war still ongoing, would raise alarm bells immediately.Again though, even without modern surveillance and data sharing speeds the entire idea relies on someone being so monumentally stupid they believe wee little Estonia actually tried to attack Russia first.
>>65476849>The US not taking military action when an ally article 5s is the effective end of NATO, especially when they responded when we called on them after 9/11. Nations will leave and enemies won't take it or other US alliances seriously anymore. bro has been living in la la land for 2 yearsthe US has been regularly, actively threatening two NATO members with war, and issues statements at least weekly casting doubts on the de facto existance of the alliance
>>65476628It's almost like all those strikes Ukrainians have been doing on russian infrastructure is having an effect
>>65477070The end result every single time has been they increase military spending then orange man starts dancing triumphantly or tariffs hit because it's a trade issue, not a military issue. As much as I desire the coming of the day of the rake I don't for one second believe we'll be doing anything beyond a the occasional trade war with actual military allies. I firmly believe if the call comes, even from those dirty Canukistanis, we'll show up to help them fight off foreign invaders.There are legitimate issues with the alliance and the big one on Trump's radar has always been members not meeting military spending requirements effectively freeloading. Treating your military as a speed bump that has to hold out long enough the the US or the French to show up is unacceptable and legitimately a problem for the alliance itself. If members cannot, or worse, will not meet obligations it's a big deal. Ukraine has made some boost their spending but getting saber rattled at by a loose cannon or having you military memed on is apparently necessary for some.Also, failing to rename Lake Ontario to Lake Chauncey was a god awful missed opportunity.
>>65477151>real actions and statements by officials are not real>instead some shit i made up in my head is real because it doesn't cast dear leader in such a bad lightanother victim of fascism, have fun with the 'free and fair' midterms
>>6547674510/10i dont know where to save this webm, does it belong in the /s/ folder? /misc/? /wsg/?
>>65476907didn't they ban the clown emoji? i'd wager a guess it's the closest analogue
>>65475932Reveal that, shockingly, Putin and his clique were traitors and enemies of the state, return to 2014 borders and set up their own businesses so that they can live comfortably in Dubai again instead of being raped by China forever like the rest of Russia.
>>65477727I keep saying it and i'll keep up doing it:Lukashenko.
>>65477934Nah, he has no power base. He'D be a figurehead at most, and Belarus will just explode as soon as he leaves.
>>65477151>Treating your military as a speed bump that has to hold out long enough the the US or the French to show up is unacceptableWho did this?Give examples.
>>65476716>as soon as the oblasts are painted red he can click the menu button to sue for peace and the world accepts the new territory.Worked for crimea
>>65478061Not really, and it was a completely different set of circumstances to begin with.
>>65478061No one accepts Crimea as russian territory. Even Baidu maps, which shows the nine-dashed line in all its glory, shows Crimea as a part of Ukraine.
>>65476711>The Romanians have probably had the best excuses but aren't willing to actually do it. Not even after a drone smacked an apartment building in GalatiRomanians did summon NATO for air policing, the last drone that was shot down over Romania was shot down by a non-Romanian NATO fighter, I forget what airforce exactly.
>>65478138Thirdies cannot fathom that 'NATO actually works' doesn't equal 'NATO bombs Russia'Becasue they all huffed the actual poccian propaganda like good little brics browns.
>>65478128yet it has effectively been part of russia for more than a decade with nobody doing fuck all about it and only nominally being against its annexionGo ahead, try and cross into it whiel showing Baidu maps as proof you aren't crossing from Ukraine to Russia
>>65478188>Thirdies cannot fathom that 'NATO actually works' doesn't equal 'NATO bombs Russia'I think Kaliningrad will be occupied by a NATO force before the decade is out.Russia is making it happen by messing around with provocations and everyone is letting them because they like the excuse to retaliate with their own hybrid measures, like seizing tankers of oil that are just floating past.If Russia backs off too much from the provocations, I think Poland will incite some on the Kaliningrad border just for funsies and to keep the party going.
>>65478286>We didn't need them or that position anyway Kek, must be true
>>65478209>nobody doing fuck all about itI guess I just imagined all those sanction packages and mass emigration as a result of the unlawful annexation of Crimea.>Go ahead, try and cross into it At least I've got enough gasoline to try if I wanted to.
>>65478286>dead ziggers are meaningless, Russian front being pushed back is meaninglesssure thing
>>65478286>You claimIt's the actual Russian propaganda site that claims it.
>>65478286Meanwhile, THE VOVCHANSK CAULDRON !
>>65478286Bull fucking shit, multiple times in the book "Storm Z" (aside from the many real life reported examples), if you're russian and pinned down and encircled, you're fucked. Written off at the first sign of trouble. Not just mobiks either, Storm Z soldiers and even Chechen/afghan vets.
>>65478343>2 years later big strong MIGHTY russia has taken 15k population town and maybe encircled and couple dozen ukraniansjesus christ it's joever lol
>>65478364The actual frontline looks like this. Their gigacope map show very futile moves considering the present and past "goals" of the 3 days SMO. Which is very comical. Even their cope has been scale downed.
>>65478405
>DONBAS
>>65478405>scale downed
>>65474975helps them to keep Europe their Bitch
>>65478502yoink, steal
