New russian tank dropped. is it obsolete?
>>65558604Depends. Is it running a German engine from the 40s, or a Soviet engine from the 50s?
>>65558604more pics
>>65558612weird barrel
>>65558604>No cope cage in the drones ageAre they retarded?
>>65558616interior
Was it able to leave under its own power?
>>65558619Wait a minute, that thing is supposedly remote controlled.
>>65558622the bms?
>>65558612>those welds
there's also a BMO-T type tank chassis to APC conversion at the show
>>65558612Are the turrets being welded together in Buhanka factories? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhf9LoQSCQc
>>65558664Absolutely dogshit welding on military vehicles is a proud russian tradition.
>>65558604>>65558612>>65558616>>65558619>>65558664Looks like a one off propaganda peice to show Russia is very strong and the only country with a tank designed in current year.
>>65558612>>65558634>Endsieg level welds
>>65558672In WW2 is makes sense because they were shitting them out as fast as possible, these days it just shows a lack of automation that can do it both faster and better than a human.
>>65558674>with a tank designed in current yearThat tank, have no cope cage. Any tank designed during russo ukranian war should have a cope cage.
>>65558674More or less on par with the Iranians showing off their new "stealth fighter" made of cardboard, featuring controls and instrumentation cobbled together from decade-old PC parts.
>>65558681No comrad tank must have sexy photo while naked for zigger fun times, it not made see combat so not cage.
Inb4 before Ukies figure out how to hack the datalink to this thing and then use it to blow up its own command vehicleThis war is silly enough that it's pretty much guaranteed
>>65558612Panoramic TV camera?>>65558616152mm short barreled gun.
>>65558680>these days it just shows a lack of automationAny decently skilled welder could do a far better job just welding it manually with the shittiest $30 Chinese arc welding machine imaginable.It's not a lack of automation, it's a lack of basic welding skills.
>>65558685>Iranians showing off their new "stealth fighter"Honestly, it still baffles me. Why would iran waste their resource on that? They should focus on developing balistic missile like Kim.
>>65558619Screen space too is too small. Boomers are still in charge of the design. Don't they have Chinese SUVs with xbawks huge screens to copy now?
>>65558692I'm not saying a human can't do better than that, I'm saying if humans are doing the welds you are about 20 years behind in industrialisation.
>>65558697Starship is manually welded.
It's yet another version of T-72 (or worse, T-62/64) with new barrel, new armor package and some fancy imported gizmos just to make it look different from the tanks that already do everything that it does ...isn't it?
>>65558706The still experimental starship, yes.Every rocket in serial production uses CNC stir welding.
>>65558709This one is remote controled.
>>65558716Teletank is back?
>>65558670>The real one
>>65558710Stainless steel can't be friction stir welded in such huge parts. So Starship is laser welded. Rings are welded by robot arms, but when stacked on top of each other robots can't reach there so staked rings are manually laser welded. Though spacex adopted advanced welding systems for that, their handheld welders have automatic wire feed, that reads movement velocity and feeds wire at constant wire to weld length ratio. This simple trick skyrocketed weld quality, and removed pressure to automate welding. Welders with these semi automatic welders achieve consistent excellent results already.
>>65558729Yep, better than ever. This thing should be called drone tank. The bigges ugv ever produced
>>65558709How, exactly? Does it trail behind it a long-ass optic cable or something? How will it counter EW and jamming?
>>65558735>Does it trail behind it a long-ass optic cable or something?It is supposedly wireless with range of up to 4km from its command vehicle.
>>65558697manual welding isn't going anywhere retards. Robots are good for mass serial welding where you teach the machine to complete the same cycle on the same frame over and over again. In small serial and unique projects a human will always be faster then teaching the computer Also with even robots a human who knows manual welding has to observe them. To correct fuck ups like random gushes of air introducing spores to finishing the final ends of the weld to make sure the root is uniform>inb4 AI magic saaar
>>65558740I work construction and know manual welding isn't going anywhere but if I walk into the Ford factory and see manual welding I'm hanging shit on them.
>>655587394km wireless connection in today's battle-space? Where the whole "active killzone" can be 20 km deep?
>>65558753>4km wireless connectionThe prototype version, yes.
>>65558758Why are we assuming that there will be a production version?
>>65558769They need at least a few working examples to scam some orders from India and Algeria
>>65558758>the production version
>assault guns are backkino
>>65558604>is it obsolete?At the very least, it is better than the chellenger 2.
>>65558772>They won't flaunt it so much otherwise.
So we have a tank that is based on T-72 (which are facing extinction anyways), with a new body-kit to make it look cool... that has been turned into remote controlled vehicle. But the remote controlling doesn't happen using something like an optical cable, but rather than wireless connetcion which is easily jammed or interferd with. And even in optimal conditions, the people who operate the tank must be within 4 km range, and thus within mortar-fire range of ...where-ever that tank is. So if you see this on the battlefield, you can either jam it, or you can just start looking for the guy in the bushes nearby who is controlling it ...who is within your artillery range....and who thought this was a good idea?
>>65558670>just a prototype>>65558758>the production version should be more polishedprototype>>65558802>For the prototype version
>>65558688
>>65558802>For the prototype version.yeah yeah, you said this already. Multiple times. You seem very invested in making sure the whole thread knows that its dogshit performance (couldn't drive unmanned and got stuck in the mud immediately) is totally due to the fact that it's a prototype, and not that it's a piece of junk cobbled together to rake in government money. Why's that?
>>65558857Nice one, you got some folks.
>>65558604Will it at least fare better than their previous military analogovnet invention?>>65558796>...and who thought this was a good idea?General Embezzlovich didGranted, this *is* a very good scheme to earn a new mansion for himself
>you now remember Armata and Terminator
>>65558772Like the now canceled T-14 whose hulls are rotting out in the open?
>>65558796>...and who thought this was a good idea?Somebody that's getting a brand new yacht and 12 room Dacha, that's for sure!
>>65558604Great, another CSFO wunderwaffe that will never see action.
>>65558869That armata looks pristine, will they finnaly send some to the frontline?
>>65558870
>>65558604Looks like a T-72 in a body kit tbqh
>>65558604pool's closed due to aids
>>65558944Looks can be decieving, anon. That shit is remote controlled and carrying 150 mm cannon while protected by one of the best aps russia can currently field.
>>65558963>protected by one of the best aps russia can currently fieldWhich is to say, none?
>>65558706They automated the welding a few years ago.
>>65558619>Video feed has visible and obtrusive imaging artifacts >>65558681The russian tanks in the southern and eastern fronts have had most of their xbox huge barns removed in favor of the more gen 1-like cope cages. Allegedly this is because of new Russian made EW and anti-drone kits, but they still get blown the fuck out of the sky regardless
>>65558716if it's RCwhy is the turret that armored lmao
>>65559019Their guns haven't stopped using shock sensitive propellants.
>>65559023it looks more armored than the aramata turret that was like that because it had no crew
>>65558924>Going in reverse made it break downHow in the world are these people that inept at mechanical engineering
>>65559019Because it's a T-72.
>>65559027It's probably a spaced armor meant to mitigate shape charges to prevent small drone charges from penetrating the turret.
>>65559035not a T-72 one no
>>65558971Arena-M shot down 7 FPVs in succession according to Ukrainian drone pilots.
>>65558606In theory it might be a German engine from the 1980s, the Norks have a MTU knock off so they might have shared a few with Russia.
>>65558716>>65558729>"Surely teletank will work THIS TIME cumrade! Especially once we build THE REAL ONE">>65558870How could I forget the screaming noise of that transmission? Or the worst case of Parkinsons in the world?
>>65559273Hey, don't mock the Teletank, it actually kind of worked, unlike Russia's own UGVs which without fail throw their tracks before getting to their theater.
>>65558963>>65559059+10 izzat sars!
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>65559332>I come to 4chan for serious discussion>shiggy diggity
>>65558664Weld is like woman, comrade. Pretty one is weak.
>>65558697A good welder is a better welder than a robot, full stop
>>65559411A high bar that takes a lot of time and experience to clear. If what you need is consistency and speed, go with robots. Circumferential welds and long, constant thickness/depth, linear welds are basically the perfect use case for robots.
>>65558604Its called the Shturm, it is a remote controlled T72, with an APC version and tank version. It popped up via mockups a few years ago. Pic rel, with APC.>>65558689Wrong, cut down 125mm for urban ops, I remember the digital designs being shown off, and the first one that popped up in pictures was the APC version, this one has a turret. They can be remote controlled from a relatively far distance.https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/russia-debuts-new-shturm-robotic-tank-it-loses-connection-and-gets-stuck-in-the-mud-23085
>>65559411>A good welder is a better welder than a robot, full stopMaybe at non-repetitive, complex welds. A robot will run a perfect and straight bead every time if it is set up right, will probably do it faster too. Humans aren't going to be fully replaced in jobs like this because a dude can contort himself to fit into tight spaces and operate autonomously with few catches.
>>65558617>No cope cage in the drones ageThis is stock from the factory, the cope cages are fitted in the field.
>>65559019>why is the turret that armored lmaoTo make it harder to disable the turret and less likely to detonate the ammunition inside.A turret kill is more or less a mission kill, it has to be armoured.Without a gunner though, there's room for armour on the inside too and you need less void internally, just enough for the ammunition feed/autoloader systems.
>>65558963>Finest APS>A circle of shotguns that cant tilt at all and is unlikely to stop any top down attackKek, ignoring the fact that thats just the drones camera mount.Not that I dont think a circle of shotguns could hypothetically have some use in limiting attack angles.>>65559059Totally real btw. Russians say Ukrainians have hypertech btw.
>>65558604Ah, now we know what they're doing with the 1k or so T-72 hulls that had no working turrets
>>65559315>Hey, don't mock the Teletank, it actually kind of worked, unlike Russia's own UGVs which without fail throw their tracks before getting to their theater.Well 1470 of Russia's UGVs made it to the frontline to be destroyed by Ukraine...yesterday.That's a typical number, so Russian UGVs do seem to be in-theatre and I haven't read anything by Ukrainian sources saying that they're comically inept.
>>65558604Why does it look like they cut a 125mm gun barrel at the bore evacuator?
>>65558604I didn't know the Armata had a Starship version of itself.
>>65558604Doesn't look Russian, they're genetically incapable of properly stacking ERA bricks in a neat and tidy configuration.
>>65559019The avoid it being disabled by heat-seeking ATGMs.
>>65559899They may have. They claim it will have a 152mm smoothbore with HE + Kornets, but the initial design was just a chopped standard cannon.
>>65558664Buhankake weld strong like robots
>>65559363
>>65560132I have been here so long I have seen faggots take the internet seriously and think that proves they belong here.
>>65560169You're a tourist. Go back.
Amounts of blatant ESL shit are insane itt.
>>65560194I'm an eternal newfag, you are worst than cancer.
>>65558924>I AM NOT GOING ! I AM NOT GOING ! I AM NOT GOING !
>>65558857>doing better than the expected>T-50>SU-57Pretty hard to do worse than the expected when they don't get made or used saar
>>65558616>They're building uncircumcised tanks nowHas antisemitism gone too far?
>>65558857>su-57>first flight: 2010>in service since: 2020>numbers built ~ 30>entire service record consists of sitting thousands of kilometers away from contested air space and still getting blown up
>>65560225>still getting blown upProofs?
Ok, serious question now. If someone did decide to properly design an RC tank, what would it look like? What would the layout be? Skeletonized turret? Massively redesigned hull since you don't need to accommodate crew? Less powerful engine? Repeater drones above for extended range?
>>65560231>properly design an RC tankThe sturhm is already a properly designed RC tank.
>>65560207>You are going if I have to drag you out>Don't do this in front of all the people!
>>65558617It's remotely controlled, that's why it has so many antennas
>>65558672"As long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work!"
>>65558636that's a mobile gazebo
>>65560232Its a T72 derivative. Strapping servos and an antenna to a platform designed to have a crew does not make a proper unmanned design. It is improvisation
>>65558670There will never be a real one and even if there was it would have the same russian quality.
>>65558762>prototype versionSo the best they can objectively do and no significant improvement can be expected within the decade. Gotcha.
>>65558963>remote controlledIn a way that is wholly useless on the mdoern battlefield.>150 mm cannonIt's a sawn-off 125mm.>while protected by one of the best aps russia can currently fieldSo it's virtually defenseless against modern threats just like all T-72s regardless of the specific bodykit, gotcha.
>>65560277Nah. that one's more "Hurry up Sergey, the Germans are only 5 miles away!"
>>65558664the is a company selling them in germany or austria? they have a like a 15 page disclaimer and are extremely selective about who they sell to because they are so shit. You need old-timer and repair experience and large funds. all are sold "used, sold as seen" because the quality is so horrible and they dont want to have legal issues with new owners. or instagram fans. >>65558740we have robots that do "touch trace welding". put in the piece in a sled, trance the weldarea with the robot arm. it records the path based on the sled XYZ or via edgefinder. if the pieces are within tolerance you just have place them on the sled and let it weld it not much programming is needed. like automatic pipe welding it needs to be set up but is simple and quality is excellent. sure does't make sense for prototypes or in the field and if you have skilled welders but even for small series its very easy
>>65560367>sawn-off 125mmFor the prototype.There is a plan to change the calibre to 152mm on the production line.
>>65559444>Trips of TruthCan this basically be summed up as a Temu Sheridan then?
>>65560226I remember Armatard screeching for weeks after the first one crashed on takeoff back in 2015
>>65560509Source?
>>65560509There will only ever be a handful of "prototypes". Russia can't build shit anymore, even updating old Soviet junk is asking a lot.
>>65560555Looking at how rough this thing appears, my guess is that it's response to Russia not being about to "build" "new" T-90s faster than they're losing them. They need something they can shit out even faster, hence the T-72 Obr.2026 drone tank.
>>65558612>those weldsI see they're keeping the "great" patriotic war traditions alive
>>65560052what sort of retarded monkeys are they hiring at the tank factory?
>>65558612do they just not have welders anymore or something kek
>>65560632That's an insult to retarded monkeys
>>65560509>planSo it doesn't exist LMAO.
>>65558664russian soldier strong and make do)))) does not need decadent pretty weldings of homosexual transexual bbc wect
>>65559444I really struggle to see the use case for a remotly controlled APC. Surely you don't want the dismounts to be impotently stuck in there in the case the datalink is severed, right? And surely severing such a datalink is an easier thing to do than incapaciting the driver?And if you have manual controls for backup, why not have a driver then? He should have a much better situational awareness than a remote operator.
>>65560052That is absolutely unforgivable. I have never welded anything in my life and I know I could do better.
>>65559059>7 FPVscheaper than a single advanced ATGM
>>65560779Everyone starts out making bird crap welds.
>>65560795In most countries that end up 12 years into a war, the factories do not have people who are just "starting out".
>>65560819Yes, and bird-crap welds reflect a rather desperate depletion of skilled labor to fill meat wave squads, but I mostly meant that anyone else that's just starting out probably will not do a better job.
>>65560821if I welded like that I'd be ashamed and I'm not even a welder but a fabricator
>>65560778That's why they're called "optionally manned" vehicles. The direct crew interface is still there. And it'll be manned most of time. Only when performing some niche role that they'll toggle it to be remotely operated. It's like what ukie did recently with that explosive path clearing BTR for op vivaldi.
>>65558636>APCwhere's the Armor on said Armored Personnel Carrier?
>>65560888>where's the ArmorProtecting the important bits. The driver, the engine, and the fuel tank.
>>65560888>You see comrade, log lifting babushka cannot put fist through steel>Is armored, is good
>>65560888Engine, fuel tank, running gears.Men are expendable, machine spirit isn't.
>Russia's new Shturm uncrewed tank failed in its first major outing, losing its control link again and again during the Tsentr-2026 strategic exercise and finally getting stuck in mud, even with a human driver at the controls.
>>65560549https://defence-blog.com/russia-shows-shturm-robotic-tank-system-in-big-exercise/?amp
>>65560850like what you fucking clown? those look like pretty good welds on thick composite blocks>>65558672those also look like decent welds by ww2 standards, i don't see the problem
>>65560915>United24
>>65560915what's wrong with United24?
>>65560888It's a T-series tank hull. Here's a drawing
>>65560929>newfag alertAndrei-bt, look it up. One of the best russian armor bloggers of the 00s and 10s.
>>65560932So basically, BMO-T?
>>65560932Why dont they make the armor as heavy as turtle tank? Weight should not be a problem since there is no turret, cannon, and ammo.
>>65560934well Kharkov indeed is just a temporarily occupied Russian city but thinhatch himself isn't necessarily
>>65560938Yes, these new vehicles aren't that new. They're famous ideas which got prototyped in russia in the early 2010s era and war thunder tank twitter talked a lot about them back then. Now they're being dragged out of the shed because russian mic needs *something*. Well, they should have invested in these - they're not bad ideas, and they were fairly good in the pre-FPV era - but they didn't. Don't expect mass production.>>65560943It's not supposed to be invincible to drones; it's supposed to be immune to dumb artillery shrapnel by having a 2-3" RHA hull like a tank, instead of paper thin like a BMP. Classic design. Think western ifv tier protection, but made out of welded up t72s.
>>65560962>invincible to dronesArmored vehicle that is literally deisgned during a war where cheap drones are used in massive number should be well protected against drones. Russia get first hand experience on how effective fpv drones can be. Why dont they design it accordingly?
>>65560795Yeah, I don't work in a tank factory though
>>65560973I told you nigger: it's a circa 2010 design.
>>65560924They make ziggers seethe
>>65560929So you're OK admitting it got stuck multiple times then, you're only issue is with unprotected compartments from drones?
>>65560977>it's a circa 2010 designBut they present it like a brand new design. At very least add some field modification like a turtle cage to show the spectator that you acknowlede drones as a threat and working to fix it.
>>65560926really?
>>65560917>shit for hands knuckle dragger doesn't know what good welds are
>>65560989Are you blind as well as uneducated?See >>65558636
>>65560887Okay the VBIED (guess the "I" would be superfluous here) is a legitimate use case. But I would guess that is not going to be how the capability is gonna be used most of the time? Because using a whole ass APC is expensive, so if you are going to do it it would be better to use knackered old ones than brand new ones. But if if you are not to do the VBED thing, immediatly, why install the remote control hardware now? It's not like you can convert your APC into a VBED instantaneously, you still need to at the very least put in the explosives.So if your APC is destroyed doing APC things, you have wasted your money on the self driving bits. What else would you do with the self driving capability ? Medevac I guess. Ferry. Doesn't sound like much. Anything else?
>>65560999That is not a cope cage. That shit is only installed to provide a shade to the mounted infantry (which is surprisingly riding on top of the vehicle not inside it).
>>65560052Oof, If this is how they maintain their nukes..
>>65561005>how they maintain their nukesDont get your hopes up. There is no indication that they mantain their nukes like this.
>>65560997russian media didn't think ukraine would lose?
>>65560996I take the gun and shoot you.
>>65560997This post is profoundly ESL.
>>65561079so your objection is they did say those things and the ukrainians are being meanies for making a compilation out of it?
>>65561005the ukrainians were maintaining their nukes..
>>65561084Just because we said that there was no oxcart of shit doesn't mean it's okay for you to make a compilation of us saying it.
>>65561103>take whatever they said out of context, spin them to according to their narative, and then compile them to makes russia looks badThe challenge would be compiling them to make Russia look good.You know how you put a cable in your pocket and it gets tangled? It's because the odds of being in an untangled state are way lower than the odds of it being in a tangled state. It's sort of the same about looking at random Russian things and them looking good, it's possible but it's way more likely that any random compilation of Russian visuals is going to make Russia look very bad indeed.
>>65561103>and then compile them to makes russia looks bad.have you considered that russia (that at the time was considered the 2nd strongest army in the world) attacking a country and>advancing so slowly that a snail advances faster than the frontline>having to buy troops and ammos from north korea>taking longer to capture a town than the entire first world war lastedmakes russia look bad ?not to mention the countless images we have of russia's equipement being so dogshit that 40 years old western equipement outmatches it
>>65561103you're a funny one you know thatI havent laughed like this in weeks
>>65560996Point out bad welds here you retard i bet you never worked on heavy machinery that needs to be welded in several passes subhuman jeet
>whataboutthere he goes!
>>65561103You make yourself look bad.
>>65561142>AmerimuttsYou retards can never help yourselves, you always have to break down when facing any sort of pushback to your online bullshit
>>65561142Uh oh
>>65561142>Russia still gains landRussia has been losing land for most of this year, pidorovich.
>>65561142>not answering my pointis it because you can't because you don't want to or because you can't ?>Whole military alliance with infinite cannon fodder glitchnot even an alliance, and if you mean the afformentionned "gifts" of 40+ years old equipement to a country with no real army until the war and a significantly lower population than the attacker, then sure, the incredible military of modern russia can fight back, wow>Amerimutts lost to Iran not winning =/= losing, which is something russia will learn once this shitshow is over
>>65561142>infinite cannon fodder glitchand what glitch would this be?
Every accusation a confession etc. etc.Notice the two pronged attack, deflecting to talk about Iran while projecting and using 'pidor', something they've been called herefor years now, as an insult.At any rate seeing people try and defend the welds on that abomination of a tank is pretty funny.
>>65561180>Russian forces lost control over almost 300 square kilometers between March and September 2026 – a period including Ukraine’s successful Operation Vivaldi, which liberated at least 147 square kilometers over several months.>ISW has observed evidence to assess that Russian forces seized 175.54 square kilometers but lost 256.35 square kilometers of territory in Ukraine in September 2026 for a net loss of 80.81 square kilometers – an average pace of -2.69 square kilometers per day. Russian forces also had negative gains in September when accounting for Russian infiltrations into areas over which Russian forces have not gained control, with Russian forces seizing or infiltrating into 143.2 square kilometers, but losing 318.38 square kilometers of territory for a net loss of 175.18 square kilometers.Lmao oops
>>65561187let's take what my country gifted and its ageTRF1 Howitzer : 80's artilleryCAESAR Gun : 2008AMX10 RC : 80'sVAB : 70'sif your army can't beat that with modern equipement then all I can say is skill issuealso the other tanks (leopards, abrams) gifted are all models from the 80s, the armata and any manpad should be trouncing them, why aren't they ?
>>65561177>KekarooNobody but the most manic, apolpleptically upset people have ever said this
Ahem>Russian Center-2026 joint exercise, brought a ton of new equipment showcases, some confirmations of standing claims, some interesting vehicles returning in the background>I think the most interesting overall, is the rather public appearance of TShRK Shturm robotic assault complex, built on T-72 chassis and equipped with brand new unmanned turret systems, both in assault tank role, and a tank support vehicle role (a BMPT). The assault gun variant features a shortened 125mm gun, with special reinforcment at the end, to prevent damage in urban enviroments and during assault operations. The new turret still houses a typical T-72 AZ series autoloader, feeding the shortened gun with HE rounds. The assault gun variant features a shortened 125mm gun, with special reinforcment at the end, to prevent damage in urban enviroments and during assault operations. The peculiar shape of it, with receeded cheeks is caused by removal of space for the crew inside, what space is left, is meant only for servicing the vehicle and loading the autoloader or coax with ammo, there is no control equipment, and no space for it, it is fully unmanned. In other news, the russkies fitted a working Arena-M APS to a T-72, Armata isn't dead, the engine's flaws are supposedly fixed (the engine itself isn't a copy of a German one), the new heavy BMO-T APC is in the pipeline along with a new unnamed mine clearing system and the UVZ is pumping 250 "new" tanks a year. Said tanks aren't going straight to the meatgrinder. The Kyiv is being struck on a daily basis. IMHO we are about to witness some very interesting things. https://x.com/Volke__/status/2106513657303892209
>>65561212He's from /vg/ of /wtg/ provenance.
>>65561215All of this is irrelevant up until it actually gets deployed in numbers that matter. Armata has been just around the corner from full production for over a decade now.
>>65561177Yes. An actual source that is infinitely more credible than allk claims out of the so-called "Russia" and it's shills like (You) combined. Seethe more about it.>>65561180>net loss in last 3 monthsFTFY. And that's with the ukies letting your fake claims stand unopposed more often than not to fuck you over on the frontlines, pidor. The actual reality on the ground is even worse for Russia than what your own commanders report upwards and tell propaganda shills like (You).>>65561187>delusional pidorBut enough of you projecting your own state upon those calling out your metodichka.>>65561192>more projectionBoring. Get a new trick, vatnigger.
>>65561215>The Kyiv is being struck on a daily basis. Way to out yourself LMAO.
>>65561215>IMHO we are about to witness some very interesting things. No, we're not. None of this is ever getting fielded in any numbers. Just typical R*ssian vaporware to scam the MoD with. Unless something actually shows up on frontline footage idgaf about vatnigger trash.
>>65561269 I wish. But Arena equipped T-72 already made it to the front and quite far into the no man's land. I'm betting on another blyatzkrieg fro Belarus
>>65561269speaking of vaporware...
>>65561200>Belgorod>enemy attacks
Is this the new glavset metodichka or are they actually using LLMs to vomit this buzzword babble out to seem 'hip' and 'cool'?
swapping tactics, huh.
...Maybe I should take up welding course.Otherwise I'm fucked if I were to lose my current job.
>>65561348>Is this the new glavset metodichka or are they actually using LLMs to vomit this buzzword babble out to seem 'hip' and 'cool'?picrel>>65561354educate yourself newfag
speaking of vaproware
He's still doubling down.>>65561371I rember...
>>65561191Unlike strong manly Rossiyan army, decadent wectern militaries waste millions on foolish luxuries like "functional body armor" and "casevac". Thus, like zombie, one wectern soldier can be wounded many times before he is kill.
are ukies finally gonna use a normal american alphabet rather than russki slop? I heard some of the post soviet states adopted the latin alphabet and got rid of the russian alphabet to write their language. ukraine should get on that since their literaly being invaded by russia
>>65561383>All I know about the Eastern bloc is what I learned from coldwar movies and cartoonsThen stop complaining that people know more than you do.If you'd been on /k/ for more than five minutes, you'd have picked all this stuff up through osmosis already, it's common knowledge here and anywhere else that ziggers show their faces.Only a fool glorifies their ignorance.
>>65561457>american alphabet
>>65561457>are ukies finally gonna use a normal american alphabet rather than russki slop?The Cyrillic Script is Bulgarian/Greek in origin and predates the Russian state by at least four centuries.Ukraine has more right to it than Russia does desu.That said, your feigned ignorance is impressive.
>>65561482>bro the swastika is an ancient buddhist and hindu symbol for peace i have every right to wear it in a synagoguethe russian letters are probably worse to ukraine than any other symbols while EU and NATO and USA all of whic they'd want to be a part of if they don't want to be raided by russkies every day for another milennia doesnt use russian
>>65561343>muh slavsOh hi, Indiana vatnigger. Kys already.PS: You and your fellow subhuman asiatic mystery meat (aka "Russians") still aren't real slavs.
>>65561498stop trying to compare an alphabet to the swastika
>>65560778Mate... The APC is the command vehicle for the unmanned tank.
>>65558612JUding from the state of the panel fits and the welding it's the T-Dustbinlid. Top lada qualityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgZJzjbEh4
>>65561517why are you defending ruzzia?
>>65561300THey only have about 1200 tanks of all trypes left now, many of them that used car with seven previous owners and no service histoiry left in a barn condition. Russian optimists and OSINT types with good hearts trying to big up the numbers to get further militarty fund for Ukraine (which should be sent any way just for the lulz) will tell you that Russia has mor ebut it just ain;t so. By the end of this year Russia will probably have less than a thousand tanks and a third will belong in museums. Conventionally Russia is only a threat to itself Ukraine and maybe the baltics and georgia at this point
>>65561517Well NTA but Russia due to it's rather grim and frankly evil hiostory of communist imperialim and marxist terroism and dicatatorships, state atheism and gulags, cults of personality, show trials, famines, nmuclear accidents and more recently the kgb pensioners club deciding they really want the abomination thatw as the USSR back is synonmous with absolute evil and muder in the minds of hundreds of millions of people that were imacted by it's grim marxist and torture chamber do a terror and a disctor last century I peronally view the cyrillic alphabet as satanic but it took marxist moscow funded terroists blowing one of my families legs off while there were doing some grocery shopping to make me this way.Nod if you understand.
>>65558628>what is out of combat
>>65561572the cyrilic alphabet in Ukraine predates all of these by centuries, I don't think they're going to ditch their alphabet because Russia happens to use a version of it as well.The hammer & sickle as a symbol is far more despised, anyway.
>>65561599I hate all Russians equal;ly at this point, any decenet ones liek Kasparov left. Any Russian still in Russia deserves no sympathy, no understanding but poverty, humiliation and death. I love and I mean that word love in it's real sense the Ukranians. They are doing what the USA for all it's posturing never had the balls to do and they are doing it with style top the same bastards who sent wepons to kill Americqan boys in Kore and Vietnam and terrorised an entire generation worldwide with their threat to do nuclear armageddon for fucking karl marx. Ukraine is the most righeous and based nation on earth. Ukranian can fuck my sister anjyday. If they want to redeem the satanic russian gibberish then they can, they can do what the fuck they like when the fuck they like because they deserve to for tearing up the kremlin and it's bullshit. If they want to stop buy and kill some of the nucommie kremlin lovers here, I'll buy them beer and shake their hands for that too.
>>65560962Didn't ukies have a similar idea post-2014? I.e. a "heavy IFV" made from T-64s chassis, which they had a ton of de-milled ones.
>>65560973>Armored vehicle that is literally deisgned during a war where cheap drones are used in massive number should be well protected against drones.Not really. ATGMs became abundant decades ago and pretty much no tanks, let alone APCs/IFVs, were able to withstand them.
>>65561457The spoken sounds of slavic languages are badly translated to latin script. You either have to do what poles do (the szchk crap for a single sound, i.e. retarded written shit which is impossible to read for anyone else) or what czechs do (the č, š, ž, ď, ť, ň, ř, á, é, í, ó, ú, ý, ů crap) - both are retarded, compared to how the latin script is used in English, German and so on.
>>65561764The Czech system is fine.Agreed the Polish system is bad.Real problem is how inaccessible all the diacritics / accent marks are on the US QWERTY keyboard for all but the most dedicated language autists like myself.
>>65558604>is it obsolete?Yes.What's its specs?
Was the ziggerposting in this thread yet another one of Robert/Indiana Vatnik's daily meltdowns?
>>65561771It's a T-72 hull with a new turret, the gun is supposed to be a 152mm smoothbore.>>65562608Who knows. Ziggerstan had a shitty week, and their new wave of mobiks will be up for cubing by the end of the month.
>>65561764>or what czechs do (the č, š, ž, ď, ť, ň, ř, á, é, í, ó, ú, ý, ů crap)Montenegro, Croatia, and Bosnia(&H) make it work well enough.
>>65562608>Was the ziggerposting in this thread yet another one of Robert/Indiana Vatnik's daily meltdowns?It was all "le both sides", "slav slapfight" and no glorifying war crimes, so that seems like the latter and not the former.
>>65562608>>65562625The stupid, ignorant burger stereotypes felt a bit like a US/Euro D&C attempt too.
>>65558604>ChelyabinskI’m a huge huge Hockey fan, and Chelyabinsk is my favorite team in the KHL. Dallas Stars and Edmonton Oilers are my teams for a bunch of reasons, but KHL can be superb.
>>65562720Forgot pic.
>>65561764>how the latin script is used in English, GermanEnglish is pretty much fucked up when it comes to pronunciation, though.German is a lot closer to 'latin' pronunciation, at least that is what a yt vid taught me.This probaby makes it harder for English-speakers to wrap their head around how other languages pronounce things.I absolutely agree on Polish being hard to read due to theri consonant salad, and having a few weird sounds compared to Czech or Slovak. . .but coming from a Germanic language most of the Slavic sounds are actually doable, they just use them to make funny words and have weird grammar.I'm sure western Slavic languages feel the same about German.
>>65558870>Long list of failed bids>Pittyfuck order from Kazakhstan >No solid number in service with RuAf, but a lot of "dude trust me">300 FOR ALGERIA Why are they like this?
>>65562758Algeria does nothing but le ebin strongman parades, and their dick-measuring contest with Morocco.And they might serve as deterrent agaisnt revolutionaries and rebels.
>>65561769you can just buy an azerty key board or left shift alt to switch to itwith a bit of training you can blind type with both qwerty and azertythat being said the classical azerty keyboard also isn't that well suited to the fucking shit the slavs did with the alphabet
>>65558636Holy shit Russians will do literally anything but ride inside an APC.
>>65562812I rather trained myself to remember certain "Alt-formations" as I call them.Alt + 148 on my numpad = ö130 = é138 = è133 = àand so forth.It's not the same as the codes you find in the Character Map.Unfortunately not all computers have this function loaded...I already know the keyboard switching function and have 4 installed.I'm open to the idea of getting some Dvorjak-type of keyboard too, eventually.
>>65562825sounds like you're way a head of me I switch between qwerty and azerty a lot because my work has me handling things in 4 different western European languages and depending on the mail/form/file it's easier to switch between them
>>65558604>>65558612>>65558616>>65558622Looks like a Eurasian Dynasty unit from Earth 2150.
>>65562825>It's not the same as the codes you find in the Character Map.Extended Unicode is a path to many powers that some might consider unnatural.▲▲▲
>>65560509>>65558963The only place this thing will appear is in Russian-developed RTS games.>anguished Broken Arrow groaning
>We hate germans>They wanted to exterminate us>We are fighting the Nazis once again>Lets name our Tank "storm" in german, misspel, it sounds cool>basedfucking thirdies man
>>65561200this image is so funny and sad
>>65560052Maybe he had a seizure or was attacked by bees.
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>>65564394Africanised or non-union labour bees in your welding helmet would definitely affect the quality
>>65562839>>65564419
>>65562868Russian is an unholy mess of French and German terms mashed toegether, for everything that wasn't developed in the middle ages.Some English and American terms, too. Many are are hard to actually notice because Cyrillic fucks up the spelling.Plus the usual smattering of Internet-English lingua frnaca terms, of course.
>>65561215>working Arena-M APS to a T-72so it doesn't actually work, but they still played pretend and drove a aT-72 with mockups around>Armata isn't deadthe project is in forever development hell>the engine's flaws are supposedly fixed (the engine itself isn't a copy of a German one)engine is still a fuck, and it was copied off a German designDeciphering Russian statements is not so hard.
>>65564537>so it doesn't actually workIDK about this guy, but the Ukrainians said it worked in Ukraine. About a dozen of them were fielded in a company-size armor push last month. They died eventually but the APSs have been updated to successfully shoot down FPVs.
>>65558634that's just their culture
