Why do trannies think they will ever pass with a horse face? Are they stupid?
>>37820654i have a good midface but i have a masculine face and i'm 6'1
>>37820666Midface is next to height as the two unchangable clocky mtf features, unfortunately they’re correlated and you’re fucked if you have either
>>37820654me on the left
>>37820673my midface ratio is 1:1.03
>>37820673you're forgetting handseverything else though, yeah those can be changed with surgery or hormones
>>37820654thank god all my face length went into my chin all i have to do is have them dice it off.
>>37820673>>37820686Youre forgetting ribcage and skull sizeAnd feetAnd long bone thickness
>>37820932arm length as well men have longer arms.
>>37820654there's a website that calculates this it's funny http://looksrate2-dev.42web.io/?i=3
>>37820654are there any decent mid face photo checkers? there used to be this real good incel one earlier in the year but i forget it
>>37820958i think the one i mentioned in >>37820952 is pretty decent it might be the incel one youre talking about
>>37820952>>37820961yes perfect ive been looking for this one for so long thank youu <3
>>37820654>>37820673it's not really clocky, it's just ugly. pretty men have small midface and ugly cis women have horse face. but being ugly is kinda clocky so it adds to that factor>>37820686>>37820932you're all wrong shoulder to hip ratio and waist to hip ratio matter mostalso limb length, and to a lesser extent heightit's the things with strong dimorphism that are visible in silhouette/at a distance that impact first impressions most and first impressions alter how everything else is read
>>37820952idk I put a few photos in and I didn’t think it’s the most accurate lol>significantly too narrow jaw>horribly short lower thirdyeah in my dreams T_T
>>37821017mfwyeah but obvs the ideals it has are for men and not women
>>37821024yeah but mine feel pretty ideal for a man lol im a manmoder that still gets told their handsome bleh idk maybe it’s my midface being so long throwing it off hmmmm (gonna obsess over this now for the rest of the day)
>>37821017its not perfect at all, my approach has always been take a half dozen or so pics then sorta average out the result and take that. some pics are gonna have you looking better and some worse so this makes that less so
>>37821006>it's not really clocky, it's just ugly. pretty men have small midface and ugly cis women have horse face. but being ugly is kinda clocky so it adds to that factorWhat are the surgeries available to fix this? For example the OP photo, what can be done to fix it? Can she fix it?
>>37820952?
>>37820682That’s very high, could be good could be bad depending on facial features
>>37820654she's just so h*cking adorable, she has this exhausted look and soulful eyes
>>37820654Right is prettier but both pass
>>37820654So close and so over at the same time.
>>37820654I pass with a horse face
>>37823976Holy shit you finally grew out your hair
>>37820952this actually cured my brainworms a bit. Better results than expected
>>37820952put in two diff pics & got "horribly long midface" & "extremely compact midface"
>>37820952i don't even know what these mean lmao. I put in one picture and it says "too compact midface", I use a different picture and it says "too long midface", then I use a different picture and it says "perfect". mf which is it??
>>37823976you just have an oval shaped face. not even close to horseface. >basically no brow bone>fem chin>fem jaw>fem nose>fem hairlineyeah no shit you pass lmao.
>>37824185she's literally so so pretty i need to get ffs one day
/brainwormgen/
>>37824242also i'm pretty sure these are for incels, so the "perfect" ones probably just mean "masculine". I'm so cooked lmao
>>37823976Small lips, long philtrum, long midface, strong jawline, cleft chin, and hairline needs to be lowered. Also get that angry look off your face you look violent and dangerous.
>>37820952this thing changes depending on the pic but it always clocks my midface as being too long
>>37820952It's so over...
>>37824348u have a compact mid-face everything else can be changed
>>37820654
>>37824345okay this thing is retarded i just used a pic of afab and it said the mid face was significantly too long
>>37824348>>37824105is a compact midface bad? most trannies have a long midface.
is this good or bad? some of them say bad but i feel like this site puts masc as good and fem as bad
>>37824508No, whatever this site said is good, it just means you look like a normal person be it male or female. I've looked the standards it refers for both genders and anything beyond them means you look kinda freakish, like mouthbreather-tier.
>>37820952hell yeah this is my kind of brainworms
>>37824928yeh i don't think being a bit off looks mouthbreather tier ur just trying to make me insecure
>>37824185>when your conservative uncle says something so racist on thanksgiving that you hit him with the depressed wine aunt starejokes aside you're literally too cute and would be so cute for you to find a bf who can cuddle you and make you happy
>>37820654I have a 0.9 midface and ive accepted my lot in life as an unloveable permanently ugly trannyit gets easier since i dont need to take care of myself at all anymore and only really leave my room to eat which makes life bearable i guessi hope i can get disability one day but probably not
>>37825832I was a premie and I thank god every day
>>37820654im 5'5 with a 1.25 midface ratio (measured irl). do i win?
>>37824105>horribly>extremelygoddamn and i thought i was ugly, id didnt get anything over "noticeably"
>>378206540.83. should i literally just kill myself
>>37820654ignore my uneven canthal :(
>>37823976Oh honey you don't pass. You look decent in a twinkhon-ish way, but don't kid yourself.
>>37827978nah its just that godawful fucking haircut, somethin about her face just registers as female in my brain
i mean hey, at least you guys arent me, so there's that
My midface ratio is 1.05 and my face is still long, because i have huge skull and giant cranium/forehead which strerches me face despite having a normal midface.TLDR all trannies are horsefaces one way or another so just learn to cope with it
>>37828104my midface is longer than yours. and short lower third is good for women
Is it over for me?
>>37828185you have no idea how weird and dysgenic my face looks, i dont even have an oval face its longer than that, my face is also kind of uneven, my eyes are usually never fully open so i look like im high or retarded 90% of the time, and i just generally look so nasty that i bet youd visibly cringe looking at me
>>37828220i think thats just tranny face? welcome to the club
all this and i'm a gigahon
>>378275171.25 is basically impossible and not accurate
>>37828346Nah my measurements are even worse desu, i look like i have down syndrome, fuck off with your "we all have it bad we're trannies!" shit
>>37820654idgi what is a good midface and what is a badmidface for trannies
>>37824284this person is absolutely wormpilled, you pass to me but just barely. only if i suspected you were trans would I analyze you so hard to see your slightly SLIGHTLY boyish face.
i used a photo i will not be sharing, but the numbers dont matter at all. anyone with a functioning brain would clock me even if i tried.it's weird like i think im a perfectly acceptable hrtfemboy, but with a face that could never, even with surgery, be fem. i dont think any amount of bone shaving / repositioning unmales my face, the issues are core to the general shape of my skull. when i tried dating months ago i only got FTM matches5'6'', 30y/o, hrt 1.5 years
>>37820654no alot are just delusional
>>37828455i can assure you its accurate. lol. heres my measurements pupil to lower lip length : 2.1 inches (or nasion-prosthion)ipd : 2.6 inches
>>37820654Looks like a woman either way Brainbroken retards go outside
>>37828797also showing the measurement lines the estimator is very inaccurate in some places. I wish I could manually fix the box/lines that are off. some measurements that are "perfect" are off target and would be worse. also my face doesn't have the right fat definition to smooth out like a fem face.>>37820654PIC"no edits aside from facial shorting"you shortened your midface but kept all the fat from the longer version and just squished it. if you had a shorter midface genetically you'd very likely still have the hollow cheecks from the left side. I think with some minor bone contouring and a couple fat graphs you'd look fem without a shorter midface. soft tissue work alone would get you most of the way there honestly. added the middle pic with just a fuller face, same midface length.>>37824508honestly just upload a picture of yourself if you want a real answer. how all the features work together means a lot more than the numbers.>>37823976i think the lighting giving you low contrast is doing a lot of work here and in some angles and lighting i assume you do well, but do have a clocky face. you have a great eye and brow area and that's doing a lot for you. i think if i met you and you had enough other fem context clues i'd she you. your cheeks and jaw aren't helping. maybe a small fat graft?
>>37829084you just made her look fat
>>37829084yes i just look fat, idk if fat transfer there would be a good idea and i don’t know if any surgeon shaves down the bones there? is that even a real thing
>>37820952Could be worse
>>37830737>>37831510women have more fat on their faces, idk im just a random on 4chan with a smear tool. there isn't really anything you can do overall to reduce your midface, so smoothing out the rest of your face is probably your best bet. here's another 30 second attempt you probably won't like either way. i honestly think you'd clock more fem with more fat to round you out.> i don’t know if any surgeon shaves down the bones thereyour edited photo on the right side has a less prominent zygomatic bone on top of a dozen other bone changes. you can actually get that one reduced though if you google zygoma reduction. unsure if that helps you alone but if you wanted to start looking at surgeries it's a place to start.
>>37831761you're cute either way though, do what makes you happy anon
>>37829084>just upload a picture of yourselfnah i know my face isn’t bad cuz i had ffs, i just think it was weird that it called my jaw too narrow and my lower third too short, so that’s why i think it’s made for men cuz men are supposed to have bigger jaws and lower thirds than women
>>37831761She could always try to hide her long midface by 1) putting emphasis on both extremities of her face (making her eyes and lips look bigger with makeup and glasses) and 2) cutting it by growing face-framing bangs up to her cheekbones and applying contour makeup techniques on her nose.
>>37828797please try out new glasses that suit and complement your face shape; I'm like 90% sure it would help alot <3 don't let the tttt brainworms get to you!
>>37820654I'd worry more about that atrocious hairline
>>37832174if you think bangs work on long midfaces you're geniunely an idiot. bangs are good for large foreheads but not if you also have a long midface ratio
>>37820654I'm so fucking ugly and man faced, it's not fair bros
>>37820654>forehead smaller>cheekbones less pronouncedok retard, these two contribute way more than a couple millimeters of midface
>>37824185did the roblox zoomers ever accept you?
long midface is less apparent when you smile : )
>>37834679not really
>>37835514that’s not a smile though
>>37833076>pic unrelated showing a girl with a short midface