Really Blanchard was right in a way. His theory was partly true. There are the two fundamentally opposed bases or transness. The woman, the AGP. And the gay man, the HSTS. The woman, the AGP, is a real woman innately, somehow, whether it be cognitive malfunction or the soul, its a woman in a man's body. They, like cis women acknowledge the female forms aesthetic superiority. They, like me, don't have as much dysphoria because they fundamentally cannot see themselves as men. As I mentioned before, when I look in the mirror I just see a woman; a defective, physically inferior woman, but a woman nonetheless. But true dysphoria can still arise when there is a substantial physical gap between themselves and a female.The HSTS, the gay man, cannot acknowledge the female forms superiority. Ans in the realm of men they are more attracted to "fubs" and "twinks" and "bears" and otherwise homosexual archetypes. They have a fundamental miswiring which makes them have a cognitive disconnect such that they cannot acknowledge the superiority of the female form, however they seek to imitate it as a means to attract men. They never suffer TRUE dysphoria, only a distress when they cannot reach the expectations they've set as the goal for attracting men.The AGP simply worries. I will never be a woman.The HSTS worries. I will never been enough of a woman for a man to want me.The AGP is attracted to men, much like the cis women, for extra-physical purposesThe HSTS is attracted to men as a gay man would be.Thank you
>>42725831oh god do u have a life fr
>>42725831AGPs are normally not into men. Some can be bisexuals but generally if you're finding yourself with men all the time you should probably consider the possibility you're just HSTS.Also neither are truly women. Anne Lawrence is definitely an AGP transsexual and wrote about how AGPs are not really women so much as men trapped in men's bodies. The idea of being a woman is the paraphilia but it's a uniquely male paraphilia. Women generally don't put anywhere near as much thought into it as AGP men do when it comes to the concept of being female.
>>42725933Cis women are agp. That's why they want 7 foot tall horse cock slinging guys to impregnate them. Just read their genre of literature. Its quite simply really. The majority of AGPs prefer men. HSTS are gay men, there's no distinction besides one being on hormones. You can usually tell from the voice
>>42725831didnt read posted it again
>>42725950>The majority of AGPs prefer men.That's definitely not true since even the majority of trans women in general prefer cis women.If you excluded HSTS they would overwhelmingly prefer women.Also Blanchard invented the term autogynephilia and he's made it clear that natal females are not AGP.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLN38t_eOjk&t=1400s
>>42725962I'm there are more than just agp and hsts. Most notably hs2s and quirk chungus
>>42725975Maybe, but most likely you can assume about half of a given trans population started out as gay males. That's the usual proportion when you look at studies on this.And about half of the group in that study reported being into men.And HSTS by definition are not into women.So if you removed half of the group and that half is necessarily into men and half of the group was into men that implies the remaining half will almost entirely be into women.And that was Blanchard's take on it too: AGPs are usually transitioning later in life after already being in a heterosexual relationship with a girlfriend or wife.
not to be controversial or anything but i think discordia is fake trans
>>42726019I'm the one who's been arguing with this person and I'm not sure I'd call discordia fake trans personally. My own experiences with taking hormones, getting laser hair removal, and crossdressing are that I do them purely for fetish-esque paraphilia reasons, which I think makes me a typical AGP but also would get called fake trans by many other people probably.
>>42725831why r u back we have new annoying trips now
>>42725831>There are the two fundamentally opposed bases or transness.almost no one fits into his two categories, and they dont eve run on a dichotomy. The simple fact is, WPATH standards required trans women to produce false narratives to get HRT, heavily skewing his data. And the existence of bi trans women completely invalidates the dichotomy in an unresolvable way. He had bad data, so he produced a shit result of a theory from it.
>>42726156Right but those standards would require them to report HSTS-type experiences rather than AGP ones. Blanchard used phallometric analysis to show that the AGPs were experiencing arousal, that isn’t based on self-report. Bisexuality doesn’t really invalidate AGP and Blanchard explained this, many are “bisexual” and the bisexuality is mediated by autogynephilia - this is “meta attraction” or what Blanchard called pseudo-bisexuality. It’s also GAMP which is elevated in AGPs and vice-versa. I think some AGPs have some genuine bisexuality but it skews towards feminine, more “pretty” males.
>>42725831>The woman, the AGP, is a real woman innately,Stopped reading, you are too insane to function
>>42725831>discordia is backFuck the world lol
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>>42728637Wdym back i never left girly
not to be controversial or anything but i don't think discordia is on hrt
>>42725831whenever i first heard of this AGP was equivalent to transbiandid that change or what
>>42730249Its a weird misconception mostly pushed by hsts bc they feel like if they are the only ones attracted to men then they get more validity despite being gay men. Agp are for the most part attracted to men
is it gamp if you are into passoids but also hairy strong women. like its gotta be the cis swap swap not clocky. feels weird and arbitrary
>>42730249You're being schooled on transgenderisms by someone that doesn't take hrt
>>42730340nah i think its all retarded and agp is just female sexuality
>>42730383>agp is just female sexuality>>42728789
>>42730286so if hsts are necessarily attracted to men and agps are mostly attracted to men what does that mean about the pathology of the majority of trannies now who are mostly female attracted? i don’t even think you’re wrong i just think there’s more pathways to trooning now. true dysphorics seem like a rare variant of jeeps, lesbian transmaxxers who weren’t able to make it as men seem more like hstses in practice, and internet poisoned political trannies seem like something else entirely. we know that trannies occur when males have stunted sexual development (perhaps not growing up in a place with other gay males, being unattractive to women, or stuck inside due to covid), wrongly treating their gender as the cause. idk what’s going on im just asking questions. i think there’s probably no reversing the mental disorder once it’s set in, but that it can be stamped out in most young boys by unisolating them.
>>42730513trying to pathologize everyone outside of yourself is preventing you from looking at yourselfplease log off
>>42730513>we know that trannies occur when males have stunted sexual development (perhaps not growing up in a place with other gay males, being unattractive to women, or stuck inside due to covid)where did you get that? It seems uncannily fitting to me...
>>42730513There's more than just gay and straight you know. Sexuality is complex
