Twinkdeath is tragic. Twinkdeath when you never even took advantage of being a twink is like hell.
>>43665330literally me
>>43665330this needs a meaner jak
>>43665330YeahThe consequences of homophobia
>>43665330lol literally me 7-8 years ago, now im just another failed tranny. i just wanted to be a cute boy but i fucked my life up and became a hon instead
>>43665330PSA from a HRTwink to TAKE YOUR ESTROGEN. 99% of the time you will get small or no tits.No exercise routine, moisturizer, diet, or wishful thinking will stop your browbone from expanding, your jaw from flaring, your gut from bulging, your hair from falling out, your body sprouting body hair, your skin roughening, and every bit of androgyny leaving you as you age.You WILL moid out unless you take estrogen, it is the ONLY preventative that WORKS.>b-but it didn't happen to me-Sure, maybe not to you. You got the one in a million androgyny/neoteny genes and lucked out for longer than the rest of us. But for the VAST MAJORITY, we will be FUCKED. Do you, the twinkanon reading this, REALLY want to make that gamble, knowing if you get it wrong you can NEVER go back? That's like betting on milllion-to-one odds for the same reward you get from a 20-dollar investment. It's retarded.TAKE YOUR ESTROGEN!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
>>43665330>just wants to be a cute boy and cuddle cute boysit hurts so much
>>43665630I'm 24 though it's too late...
>>4366564524 was when i cracked and trooned and now 5 years later i successfully became a man with breasts.
>>43665645No it's fucking not. I started at 25 and while it's less than ideal (I could have had zero browbone protrusion if I started at 18) it's better than the alternative.
>>43665330Yep. I’ve ruined my entire stupid fucking life. Fuck
>>43665645Im not going to refute you anon but if you start you can at least keep it from getting worse. It is never too late to minimize your moiding. I actually was getting carded and misgendered all the way up to my present age of 29 thanks to finasteride and avoiding the sun religiously. But when I looked in the mirror I saw the moid I would become and said fuck it. Now people say I'm aging in reverse. I'm still gonna need a bit of FFS to get back to where I want to be but overall I'm quite pleased with how I look.And yes, I WAS lucky, i was one of the one in a million lucky twinks with good skincare and bone structure that would likely hit 30 still cute if a bit more masc, but it still wasn't going to last. I absolutely wouldn't make it past that, so even if you are still riding high I recommend taking estrogen anyway. It honestly makes things so much easier. Before E I was constantly fighting against the current to keep my body, now its super easy. Nicer skin, better fat distribution, etc.
>>43665714I just wish I could make my mind up. I've taken it twice for a month at a time but keep getting scared I'll regret it. But I know I need to make the decision now and not 3 years later. I didn't even realize I want to look feminine until age 23 ;w;
>>43665777Just do it. IMO, if you can afford it or you even care, bank your sperm first so you'll have being able to start a family being locked in. I find it both eased my mind and shut up anxious relatives. Legacy lets you do it for like 3k which is a huge investment but other services are 10k so its the best you can get.If that's not a problem then just do it. No normal man would even CONSIDER doing it. The fact that you are waffling almost certainly means you want it but are scared of social consequences. What's worse, some people judging you or being trapped in a moided meat prison until you die? You can find people who will accept you, you can't tear off your flesh if it betrays you. Also, unlike a trans woman, you don't need to wear female clothing, use the women's bathroom, use female pronouns, etc etc. No need to fuss about a social transition so it should be wayyyyy easier for you than them.
>>43665831Could I ask how significant breast growth was? I'd prefer not to have any but I suppose some growth would be ok if it's able to be hidden. Sucks I won't be able to swim anymore but yeah this is probably the right decision.
>>43666112Im not even a-cup. I've got pointy nipples and a bit of swelling but that's it, it isn't noticeable unless I point it out. If I go out I just throw on a thick collared shirt or put a bandaid underneath each nip. I also work out and have decent arms/pecs so i can play it off as that if people ask questions.
>>43666112You can swim with breast.
>>43665330Fucking real bro. I was only really cute for around 2 years and I never did anything with anyone. It still haunts me sometimes, eight years later
Is 2 mg of estradiol a day okay, or should I increase it to 4 mg?
>>43666553It depends. Dosage matters less than "is the dosage counteracting or replacing your innate T production." And for that you either need to eyeball the physical effects or get a blood test. You might need 4, might need 2, but you don't know until you analyze what's going on in there. If you don't want to do that or can't afford it, try a high (safe) dosage and scale it back bit by bit if you get migraines or other serious effects.
You niggas are larping hard talking about twinkdeath all the time on this board. I guarantee you than most of you never were nor could have been twinks. You have to be hot to be a twink, you have to be pretty, you have to be consistency youthful as you age further. I am 27 and still get regularly carded and told I'm pretty, I even get regularly complimented on how I dress, because I'm not a shut in dress go spinny retard. I surprised a 21 yo hunk at an orgy last week when he found out I was half a decade older than him and not the same age or younger.The "twinks" you like probably aren't even twinks, they're probably femboys or repping trans women who are highly physically feminised by literally taking oestrogen.Every single last one of you would've fit into pic related even at 18. Very few if any of these retards are gross because they're "too old" it's because they're ugly and always were. You niggas need to grow the fuck up, if you are gay or bi then it's not a problem to find men to fuck anyway. If you're not hot enough to fuck hot guys it means you were never hot, could never have been a twink and should shut the fuck up or kys.
>>43666666correct, most of us were/are average guys that just want to look like teenagers forever
>>43666666tmw when they all mog me
>>43665777Im 3 years on and I still constantly worry about my decision and think of stopping
>>43666666evil ass post number holy shit
>>43666771we are all the devils children
>>43665645So what I’m 24 I’m still cute as a button>>43665630Maybe this is true for the average bald fat 4chan user but this is actually not a problem for legitimately good looking twinks
>>43666666I AGREE ENTIRELY SATAN TWINK Although some of the old school femboy were external sexy don’t be hating on them
>>43666700So stop larping about twinkdeath, you were never a twink to begin with, you just grew up. If anything, lots of twinks don't even get hot until their late teens in my experience.>>43666858based actual twink
The problem with femboys is that they’re socially male and don’t do actual femboy stuff. They just want to buy pleated skirts and act like anime girls. To be a twink is a lot of work. You have to eat well with low grains no sugar and do cardio for a flat stomach. You have to get into skincare and makeup. Then on top of all that there is the genetic lottery to see if you have the potential to be one.
>>43666916Yeah I was a twink with abysmal self esteem from living in a rural homophobic area and idk why I bothered taking estrogen. Now I look the same but with a gross chest thats noticable even when I wear a binder so I cant even dress how id like.
>>43666858>Maybe this is true for the average bald fat 4chan user but this is actually not a problem for legitimately good looking twinksThere are plenty of good looking twinks who get fucked by genetics anon. You can look great and suddenly be a shiny-headed sasquatch because your man genes kicked in. It's not a binary.
>>43666998You literally only have to pay as much attention to your appearance as the average (not fat) woman, except you have it easier as a twink because that thing you said about makeup is nonsense, you don't need makeup to be a twink and most twinks wear at most some foundation or concealer when they absolutely have to for a picture or something, maybe eyeliner for clubbing. Most of us are not James Charles>genetic lotterythat and eating sensibly, maybe also shaving body hair (which plenty of other men do anyway) are all you need to be a twinkThe only other thing potentially is not having the retarded awful dress sense that most moids have
>>43665630for the tits thing i think there are also meds you can take to prevent them from growing but i'm not mtf so i wouldn't know
>>43667240There are, raloxifene for example. The problem is you are taking a gamble with your liver and organ health. Its not a guarantee or even a majority but it is considerable enough over time that it scared me off of it. If you absolutely cannot stand even a bit of breast tissue then sure, take it, but for me the complication potential was too much. There are options though.
>>43666666To add on to my point, if you want to make your larp less obvious, you need to start talking about twinkdeath happening at the ages it actually does, when the worries like fat, hairloss, and body hair become something you need to manage. 25 yo at least, none of this "twinkdeath at 20" bullshit because if you stop looking like a teenager when you literally stopped being one then you're not a fucking twink
YupBack when I was a teen to my early 20s I was always trying to be more masculine but everyone around me seemed to insinuate I was cute, compared me to fictional characters like cloud link raiden, some thought I was gay but I only dated girls. I tried to fight against all of that and be and act more masculineI finally cracked after so many years of lowkey thinking about gay tranny shit and realized I was actually starting to look more masculine. Anyway I've messed around with HRT for years and its helped but I always think about what if I wasn't so brainwashed into society's masculinity cult and been a feminine faggot in my prime like I wanted to be
>>43666553getting E up is less important than keeping T down. If youre on pills u NEED to be taking a T blocker
>Youth was the time for happiness, its only season; young people, leading a lazy, carefree life, partially occupied by scarcely absorbing studies, were able to devote themselves unlimitedly to the liberated exultation of their bodies. They could play, dance, love, and multiply their pleasures. They could leave a party, in the early hours of the morning, in the company of sexual partners they had chosen, and contemplate the dreary line of employees going to work. They were the salt of the earth, and everything was given to them, everything was permitted for them, everything was possible. Later on, having started a family, having entered the adult world, they would be introduced to worry, work, responsibility, and the difficulties of existence; they would have to pay taxes, submit themselves to administrative formalities while ceaselessly bearing witness--powerless and shame-filled--to the irreversible degradation of their own bodies, which would be slow at first, then increasingly rapid; above all, they would have to look after children, mortal enemies, in their own homes, they would have to pamper them, feed them, worry about their illnesses, provide the means for their education and their pleasure, and unlike in the world of animals, this would last not just for a season, they would remain slaves of their offspring always, the time of joy was well and truly over for them, they would have to continue to suffer until the end, in pain and with increasing health problems, until they were no longer good for anything and were definitively thrown into the rubbish heap, cumbersome and useless. In return, their children would not be at all grateful, on the contrary their efforts, however strenuous, would never be considered enough, they would, until the bitter end, be considered guilty because of the simple fact of being parents.
>>43670040>From this sad life, marked by shame, all joy would be pitilessly banished. When they wanted to draw near to young people's bodies, they would be chased away, rejected, ridiculed, insulted, and, more and more often nowadays, imprisoned. The physical bodies of young people, the only desirable possession the world has ever produced, were reserved for the exclusive use of the young, and the fate of the old was to work and to suffer. This was the true meaning of solidarity between generations; it was a pure and simple holocaust of each generation in favor of the one that replaced it, a cruel, prolonged holocaust that brought with it no consolation, no comfort, nor any material or emotional compensation.
>>43665630fine. this is the last straw. ill chemically castrate myself
I still don't understand how to cope with peter pan syndrome
>>43671174suicide unironically, you'll stay young forever if you kill yourself at a early age. see you on the other side of the rainbow anon. good luck!
>>43665330>23 year oldwtf are you guys on about, you act like you're 50literally take care of your looks and get on grindr and you'll have a bf within a month.this is just doomer giving up mentality, weak...
>>43666781No, we are God's children.
>>43671209no one hit me up on grindr that was my type, everyone made it seem like it was easy to find someone but its not
>>43671241do you not live in a big city? and you have to message people yourself you know
>>43671246grrr nevermind im too shy and i dont like confrontation, you're right.
>>43671241What is your type? Every femboy on grindr only likes other femboys and as a masculine top it makes me sad because thats my type.
>>43671296uhmmm are you in lala land or am i because it seems like femboys/twinks on grindr want majority masculine hairy daddy type men. they usually want to be the "cute thing" and do the whole opposites attract thing. but same my type is femboys/twinks/skinny boys (picrel is my type(s)). but anyways its a lost hope, and im not really even into sex, like i just need someone to hold onto. and im a "top" but im seem so bottom brained.
>>43671333>uhmmm are you in lala land or am i because it seems like femboys/twinks on grindr want majority masculine hairy daddy type men.We should switch places bro :c I need to be where you are at so I can finally get a femboy/twink bf and you can find one too. Seriously though I feel your pain. I hope you find someone anon <3
>>43671366im in the gayest state in burgerland, i hope you find what you desire but its not gonna happen for me.
>>43671333>look this guy updamn bro got fucking cooked by twinkdeath within 10 years of that pic accelerated by drug use too but damn
>>43671509yeah bro he turned into a schizo i guess because of the LSD and got fat but mannn he was so perfect right here, im obsessed with him
>>43665630I got fairly big tits even tho I'm bmi 17 so uhm proceed with caution
>>43671772Fairly big you say?
