When you’re judging men, what do you actually care about?Not the nice answer, not the “everyone is different” answer. I mean the real answer when deciding if a guy is hot, dateable, or worth taking seriously.How would you rank this stuff?>heightHow much does 5'7 vs 5'9 vs 5'11 vs 6'1 matter?>faceCan a good face carry a guy, or only up to a point?>bodyDo you care if he’s lean / muscular / broad / low body fat, or is that mostly secondary?>raceHow much does white / asian / brown / black matter in practice?>moneyBroke vs normal job vs well-off vs rich.>lifestyleNice place, travel, fun dates, freedom, not living like a loser.>personalityNice vs asshole, funny vs boring, smooth vs autistic, dominant vs passive.>respect / commitmentNot DL, not ashamed of being seen with you, willing to date publicly, introduce you to people, commit for real, and not treat you like a secret sex thing.I’m asking because I think people say one thing when they’re trying to sound normal, but react differently in real life.If you’re attractive and have options, what’s the real importance of each thing?
all trans women look male, passing is a myth
>>43668322nice to me. makes me feel protected and desired. listens to me. hot and tall
>>43668322pass is mythbut for me>nice to his mom>cares and loves animals>loves me
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>>43668322>Passoid hottieswhy are you asking here
>>43668322Fuck me the reddit spacing on that is a lot. You don't have to double tap enter every fucking time. In terms of what it actually takes to get me between your legs with your cock in my mouth? 1. Be nice to me2. See me as a person, not a sex toy3. Make me feel safe to be around you4. Shave your crotch and your face5. DO NOT TOUCH MY DICK!
>>43668421I am not just touching your penisI am gracing it with reverence and I'm going to feel up your male ribs while I suuuuccccCCCccccCCc all the spermfluids out
>>43668450Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm out. Although I am lowkey desperate enough that we can discuss money.
>>43668421Not really chaser, only ever been with cis women but I'd date a trans girl if she was the right girl for me, can I ask how you go about getting a trans girl off without touching it? Like I don't wanna do anything she doesnt want me to, but I like to make girls cum when I'm with them. What do?
>>43668483>>43668421LMAO where is that guy who says all trannies are prostitutes when you need him?
>>43668322i want to clarify that im the opposite of a passoid hottie but this board was made for unnecessary blogposts so here goes>heightprefer my height or taller (im 5'11) ideal height would be between 6'3 and 6'8, willing to date shorter but anything below 5'9 is gonna have to be doing a lot to make up for it>faceto me face is probably the second most important physical feature (under height) so yes it matters a lot and can easily make or break a guy (although most faces are average enough for it to not matter a lot)>bodyone of the least important features to me but anything that at least looks physically bigger than me is heavily preferred (im relatively skinny). the twunk body type is my ideal but anything between that and obesity could do fine>racebarely matters at all to me, i think every race has some attractive people (although i do have a very slight bias toward white and asian men sure me)>moneydoesnt matter much but if i wasnt broke i would probably want him to at least be making something>lifestyleanything beyond complete neet shut in is okay, as long as our lifestyles are compatible enough. my ideal would be a realtively humble person who spends free time outdoors relatively often but has a slight preference for being inside>personalitythe package matters more than individual features. nice is better than asshole, funny is a lot better than boring, smooth and autistic i can go either way but ideally not super autistic, and dominant is strongly preferred but im okay with some passivity>respectif i had any self worth i would probably want someone who just treats me like a woman and that includes in public and with friends. but im way too ugly and nonpassing to feel a need to force that out of anyone so functionally i dont really carewow that was a lot, why did i even do this lol
>>43668322Height isn't important im 5'3" i just want tallerFace extremely important there's a guy I think is into me I'm only hesitating cause his faceBody secondary but fit is a big plusRace white only i want to date my raceMoney current maybe ex? Was jobless and broke so nothing crazyLifestyle just don't be a loser desuRespect no guy I have ever dated has respected me so I guess not important I have such low self esteem I put up with it.
>>43668546Fuck my arse until I stop speaking english. >>43668583When push comes to shove all women are whores. It's just a matter of price.
>>43668322>heightnot that big really, pref same or taller is nice but dated short kings in the past>facegood jaw and kind eyes are my absolute weakness, not be and end all>bodyjust not a fat slob. i put a lot of work into my body and expect the same>racenot really a factor>moneyjust not in crippling debt where i have to pull them out, and have some kind of work/studying to work>lifestylei like extroverts and those who enjoy going out>personalitythis can turn a 10/10 looking guy to me into a 1 for me, just be nice, if you're funny even better, both dominant and passive have their positives, so not a biggy>respect / commitmentrespect or not going to happenrespect>personality>lifestyle>money>body>face>height>race
>>43669086>Fuck my arse until I stop speaking english.Oh okay nice thats easy enough
>>43669479Yet strangely most guys can't seem to figure it out.
>>43668421>shaveCan it be a really close buzz instead?
>>43670293Seems simple enough to me :) If you like you can check to make sure I have understood?
>>43670318Personally, close shave is always best. I really don't want to be getting exfoliated by your whiskers while I'm trying to fuck you.
>>43670355If I didn't live on the other side of the planet to you I so would.
>>43670370That's weird bc most girls said they like a short beard at least.
>>43670378UK?
>>43670382I either don't believe you or I don't believe them. Facial hair is for old married guys who don't want to have sex any more.And pubes are for guys who never did. Maturity on a guy is hot, but there's lots of ways to get that without face fur.
>>43670406Sorry.
>>43670407I mean straight women like beard and men who have pubes.If you don't like it and only like smooth twinks that's cool.
>>43670418Ah. Lol. Well let you know if I ever join the hordes of other young brits moving there
>>43670425No I like men, I just don't like the feel of whiskers on my sensitive skin. I can't imagine anyone would, my sister certainly doesn't. And I've literally never seen a fuckboy who could get it who even had a mo (it's one of the give aways). As for pubes, literally nobody wants a face full of pubes when they're trying to suck a dick. Have you considered the possibility that maybe the girls were just letting you know they were into by commenting positively on an obvious feature? We do that y'know.
>>43670465Make it soon. Not for me, for you. It really is UK without all the bullshit and nicer weather here. And there are lots of poms here.
>>43670482I can't speak for everyone, I know if I were gay or a woman I wouldn't like pubes bc I hate body hair.But I've been with 14 women and they've all been really happy about me having a *short* beard and trimmed but present pubes.Even in long term relationships with them its been the same.I'm not invalidating your preferences or experiences or anything at all, I'm just saying from my experience this is what women have wanted.
>>43670522Okay, if that's your experience, that's your experience. I don't have a problem with body hair (tho now I think about it I do love clean guys), it's really just the face and the pubes because those are the bits that I have to touch with my face.
>>43668322>heightbarely matters>facepretty important but not the defining factor>bodycompletely secondary, just don't be extremely skinny or out of shape (chubby and fat are hot too but don't be out of shape)>moneybarely a factor>lifestylethe most important>personalitythe most important>respectyou're getting nowhere without it
>>43670547And I mean I've asked "hey should I shave?" and they've said "NO!"I guess there's just different factions.
>>43670600If it's working for you, and it seems to be, keep doing it. I don't need every guy to be groomed to my liking, I just need a few (hundred).
>>43668377i can see where this is going
>>43670612Hey I'm not defending it. If you asked me to shave I've be smooth in 30 mins.
>>43670637You're sweet. I like you.
>t. 180cm(5'10.7) 25y blonde white youngshit >importance on a 1 to 10 scale ( )>respect / commitment(10)This is the most important bar none, you gotta be comfortable treating me like a normal gf after a couple months. If you want DL nonsense or being your trans mistress, 'secret sex pet' ect. It'd have to be a lot more transaction thing to continue long term(money, influence, or something that makes me more interesting to have fucked you, like being your muse something cliché like that)A partner can interact with my dick if they want, just be considerate about, don't make me feel like its your main objective of desire or treat it like you would with some dude.>personality(9) On paper standards will always be higher than reality, when personality hits a lot of that other stuff will fade away.Playful, not so serious and doesn't yell at me regularly(I like arguing a bit though) idc if I have to "wear the pants", accepts me being a little clingy and a bare minimum of kindness.>height(4)I think a guy of any height could win me over but I guess instinctually I would be apprehensive about marrying someone super short(<5'7)Between 5'8.5-6' (174-182cm) I wouldn't think about it either way, 6'1-6'4 (185cm-195cm) is the fantasy so yea I'd look more favorably on them. >face (7)Most important physical attribute, a good face can make up for a lot, not to say I'm chasing the most conventionally attractive faces, some faces just "click" I guess I like kind slightly nerdy faces if I had to describe it.>body (2)Matters the least of physical attributes, preferably he takes care of himself enough to stay healthy so maybe under 25%bf. Not a huge fan of ultra thin or super big muscles. "Slim fit" is my preference. .
>>43670912>race(2)I have developed a bit bias towards Asian guys, I'll notice them more, give them a bit more consideration. I feel like I relate to them well. I'm a little wary of black guys, in the past they've been the most likely to play loose with "respect".>money(2 up to a 5 with age) I don't care right now at least, but if you're chronically broke let it be with purpose and have Ambition. I think will care more as I get older and worry about not being able to afford to have a family. >lifestyle(6)I think I can find happiness in a lot of places and ways of existing but I really need someone who will be spontaneous sometimes and go on adventures. To be curious about the world and someone who wants kids eventually, yes I know that's playing with fire as a tranny....>values(5) gotta at least a somewhat compatible moral system and set of values.
>>43670880Thank you babe.
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>>43668322everything real women with wombs consider the bare minimum >60 feet tall>600 inch cock>6000 million a year>10/10 minimum, 15/10 decent, 20/10 ideal>biggest house ever>let me fuck anyone i want>buy me everything>dont ask me to do anything at all including duty sex let alone cooking
idrc about race and height, those are so superficialbody is not super important, he just cant be fat cause that means he doesn't take care of himself. I don't really like super shredded bodies either cause it means he'll be too busy at the gym and also hard bodies are difficult to grip and touchmoney and lifestyle just go hand in hand. obv the more the better in this regard but it's not my #1 priorityface is really important yes but it doesn't ''carry'' a guypersonality and respect is 100% the most important. i dont want to be treated any different than if i were a cis woman.and btw one thing u didnt list is the VOICEoh my god I love a suave, deep voice, that is like such a big plus. in terms of physical features that's probably my #1
>>43668322>heightHeight is extremely important. As long as he is as tall as me (5'10) or a little taller (6'2), it's fine. Shorter or taller than that are deal-breakers.>faceFace is important, but a good face cannot carry a guy.>bodyImportant. Underweight or overweight are fine, but only if he is willing to change. Extremely muscular/bodybuilders/lean men are ugly.>raceI would only date white or brown men (mixed white-black and MENA to be specific), maybe sex with black men (being honest), but I doubt. No preference between them.>moneyI don't care at all, as long as he is willing to work or is already working it's fine.>lifestyleI don't know what to say, but I would have to find it interesting.>personalityNot an asshole. Funny and dominant.>respect / commitmentDepends on the situation.
>>43668322>doesn't include hygene
>>43668322>passoid hottiesok answering as a super clocky ugly troon>HeightIdeally? Taller than me, just because I feel broad, so 5'7+ , but it's not a deciding factor or anything>faceI don't think about it too much, but they just need one I'm attracted to, not special or specific>bodymuscular, broad or fat are fine, good musculature even if fat is fine. I just want him to be stronger than me and not make me look like a wide dwarf in comparison>raceI don't really care too much, but white is easier since my family is southern, even if I don't care it'd suck if they all made it harder for them>moneyNormal or rich, I want to have a career, dual-income household where it's closer to equal finances, but if they make way more then I'd do way more to make up for it>lifestyleTravel, Outdoorsy, fun dates all sound nice, would be good to just be taken outHe could honestly be a neet too if I can get into hos hobbies like gaming or warhammer or whatever it may be, but if I find it too boring then it'd be difficult>personalityhas to be nicehas to be dominantSmooth/aautistic dont matterfunny preferred>respectHugely important to be respected, not hidden or treated like dirty sex secret. probably most important on list
>>43668322Where is a heterosexual man meant to meet passoids? Ones that are intact, of course.
>>43668322how tight his pussy is
>>43672062Ew ew
>>43668322>When you’re judging men, what do you actually care about?personalityi think autistic guys are cute and delicious. They instantly become disgusting if I notice they're trying to larp as normies or are ashamed of being weirdi like weird guys who are okay with being weird and accept themselves>heightI like guys around my height. I'm 5'6~5'7 in burger units>faceclean. i prefer shaved>bodylow body fat, always. lean or muscular are fine, but i prefer skinny twink-ish guys>raceno strong preference, been with guys from all races>moneynot a criteria really>lifestyleno preference>personalitynice. assholes suck. for me the most important part is that they like their own personality, at least to a degree. low self-stem stinksi have a high libido, so if they can match that, that's great. but it's not a requirement>respect/commitmentas long as you treat me well, I don't care. being a "secret sex thing" is pretty common for cis girls as well desu
>>43668322>heightabove average is nice>facea lot>body don't care>moneybeing wiling and able to support me economically so i can stay at home is wonderful, other than that i don't want/need tons of expenses (eg expensive gifts like jewelry). paying for further work on my body also is a giant bonus>racemostly white but some others can be ok, i've dated non white a lot >lifestylei am not judgmental... i think academic interests are cool>personalityvery big... if you want to understand the least attractive personality, just look at darksydephil, there's no way you can date something like that. i like men that make me feel safe personally, i have the kind of people pleasing personality where ill panic and get afraid if someone seems angry and i have ptsd, i really am attracted when someone makes me feel safe and especially protective personalities are an enormously attractive thing to me, it feels very nice>respecti think id be pretty depressed and dejected if it went too far, i understand when to avoid stuff but when its possible i love meeting family. if i felt like he was ashamed of me id feel incredibly depressed and probably not be able to do it
>>43668322>heighttaller than me (average male height) required. i dont wanna look down to meet my bfs eyes or bend over to kiss him. im sorry it has to be this way but it is.>facethe first filter. must be nice to look at and 90+% of moids fail this utterly, unfortunately. i like pretty boys>bodyi prefer low bodyfat, whether that means skinny or muscular i dont really care. just dont be fat like most moids. hairless is a big bonus. a nice cock size is another bonus, and independently of size, if it looks suckable thats an even bigger bonus. a lean prettyboy with an aesthetically pleasing cock makes my libido unquenchable>racedont care>moneyim not a retard i can make my own money>lifestylejust be compatible with mine>personalityfunny, intelligent, reasonable values>Nice vs assholeonly sexually traumatized afabs find themselves attracted to assholes, and then they cry about it to their friends when hes being an asshole. not being an asshole is like the most important skill you could have as a human regardless of who you are or what youre trying to achieve and if this isnt obvious to you, you might just be underage or retarded>respect / commitmentobviously not wasting my time with someone who doesnt meet me in public or introduce me to his friends and family>>43671937this is an important addition. its insane how many moids fail the basic standard of "do you wash your ass"
>>43673814>its insane how many moids fail the basic standard of "do you wash your ass"this, and "don't stink". i was bothered by my own smell enough before hrt, but you start to notice all types of smell much more on e, and it just ends the game right there