males fundamentally cannot understand our experience and need to stay out edition
>>43849428i love gock
maybe you should try to NOT enforce binary gender roles
>>43849917tell that to trans people
>>43849428>No malesSorry but the mtf gender role is founded on going places you are not allowed usually in droves
>>43849885have you ever considered your trans feelings are just a byproduct of the masochism inherent to being born and raised female and by playing into this you're just reinforcing exactly what you're trying to avoid in an endless cycle i understand that you like it and are proud of being a humiliation kink masochist but it doesn't seem sustainable in the long-term
Current read.Actually funny book.
>>43849987>your trans feelings are just a byproduct of the masochism inherent to being born and raised female and by playing into this you're just reinforcing exactly what you're trying to avoid in an endless cyclethis explains basically every theyfab ever btw. and yes its true, good job anon>it doesn't seem sustainable in the long-termits been like 8+ years and i still remember the time [REDACTED] misgendered and deadnamed me on purpose. it still turns me on. this wasnt a mtf though
>>43850120do you think it's unhealthy for you to seek this out and enable it? or does it feel healthy and regulating in some ways. genuinely asking because i try to repress all masochism after recognizing it for what it was and how it was hurting me beyond the physical
>>43849943>you are on a different team>you are not doing the same thing they are>you don't believe the same binary lies they do ahem ahemting tingIt's ok to be a masculine lesbian (really masculine) without taking testosterone or identifying as male.
>>43850162i agree but most kweers do not. trannies literally say joan of arc was trans because she wore pants
>>43850162>It's ok to be a masculine lesbian (really masculine)In a perfect world, yes. Try it in this one and it's an endless shit show with 99% of people you know trying to convert you into femininity or straight up antagonize you.
>>43850217you people seem slightly more sensible than male reppers, who seem much more autistic hmmm
>>43850239let's team up and fight back against all those who would oppose you being gnc lesbiansdon't just give in, butch lezzies are supposed to have a fighting spirit and male aggression, show me what ur made of
>>43850162>>43850242probably because i barely post here. and i only post here sometimes in the first place because it's one of the only spaces where you can openly vent about resenting the material reality of being female without people calling you transphobic for not including trans women in it or some other kneejerk concern troll panic. i wanted to be a boy as a kid then had a theyfab he/him phase before realizing it was all just internalized misogyny, which was a wakeup call.
>>43850317it's easier to be a woman than a man
>>43850317im trying to stop hating women but i cant
>>43850317i don't think trans men truly "want to be men." what they want is specifically to not be female in this world. becoming a man is just the only way that seems possible. contrast this to trans women not really caring about their maleness and instead specifically wanting to be women as the first and only goal. the trans man operates on the negative of negation, the trans woman operates on the positive of desire>>43850336prime example of trans women desiring womanhood more than any concern with negating manhood. you are just an incel with extra steps, envious of the women you see as having the world handed to them on a platter, without ever knowing what it is like to experience exactly what i have. your world view is only possible through forcibly shaming women into silence and plugging your ears screaming when they remind you of reality.
The FTM thread is a cesspit of theyfabs roleplaying about their fetishes for misogyny and abusive men. Entire female sex is doomed
>>43850143it really depends on what you consider healthy desu. most people wouldnt consider deluding themselves healthy but they also wouldnt like the idea of being hyper aware all the time, so they tend to be a little more delusional most of the time, which i guess theyd find healthier. idk man its either me or forestchan most of the time
>>43850388I'm not a trans woman. I'm a man who has noticed how much more freedom women have to express themselves, make mistakes, break the rules, etc. I don't think you foids realize your privilege.
>>43850388>i don't think trans men truly "want to be men." what they want is specifically to not be female in this world. becoming a man is just the only way that seems possibleI'd be just as unhappy turning into a "non-man, non-woman" than just staying a woman, becoming a man is the only option
btw forestchan if youre there, what do you look like? i kinda wanna draw you sometime
>>43850756take it to the ftm thread where they'll agree and masturbate to you saying this. we don't care, go cry about it elsewhere
>>43850847it's not sexual I just think women are allowed to get away with a lot, obviously butch lesbians less so, but still more than men arejust be thankful you can hold hands with other women without people flipping out on you
>>43850861i dont even understand why butch lesbians exist. why do they love other women instead of wanting to kill them? seems very fantasy-trope-y and larpy. genuinely dont understand how any of it is real.we all know that gay doms and subs operate on a borderline misogynistic power difference thing that is less about relationships and more about just sex, but lesbians seem to operate on a whole different level, unless its just the same and they like lying about it to seem innocent and less like men. is that what it really is? otherwise i dont understand. i dont like taking such a great amount of time trying to understand cis women. transbians and their puppygirl dynamics are much easier to understand
>>43851080butch lesbians exist to protect lil fem gay men like me from harm
>>43851109what if theyre terfs and think all men are evil
>>43851152I'm pretty used to that. You have to tiptoe around women. Sadly even the butchies fell for the propaganda are say things like "I never feel safe around men". But, realistically, I'm pretty femmy so it's clear they DO feel safe around me (being naked too I'm just not interested), but they WILL use it against me if they feel threatened by me, so I have to be careful. I wish women were more loyal.
>>43851080>why do they love other women instead of wanting to kill them?literally what? i'm sorry i genuinely don't understand where this is coming from. do you think all sexual attraction lies on a sub/dom, humiliator/humiliated, hater/hated scale? you are projecting your own internalization of patriarchal heterosexuality. which i guess is why you have the whole masochist thing going on where you talk about loving mtf gock but that's really not representative of everyone especially wlw. in fact i'd say that most women with humiliation kinks only have them when with men, not when with other (real) women
>>43849428take your HRT, retards
>>43849428not only am I repping but I am also intentionally ruining my life by not going to pursue a career or higher education. i had a chance at 19 to troon out and go to college FOR FREE but I refused as i am a low iq sociopath who is capable somehow of manipulating all into believing me and I MUST BE PUNISHED FOR MY CRIMES>
brootal sexpill that mtfs remain defensive about misandry while ftms love misogyny
>>43851080its not that u cant understand cis women desu this is a very cishet viewpoint, and that isnt uncommon for theyfabs who are always cishet women. u just sound like u dont understand lesbianism bc ur heterosexual
>>43851206cmon you know none of this cope is real. "wlw" are just women trying to be different to escape what you describe as "patriarchal heterosexuality". are gay dynamics heterosexual? i dont think so, but i feel like you would argue that they are>most women with humiliation kinks only have them when with men, not when with other (real) womenthis is exactly what i was talking about. while you think that may be true i think there is truly no way to know if youre telling the truth or lying again like i explained earlier. lesbians are human, so i think theyre more than capable of having those "heterosexual" kinks you claim they dont have>>43851308but if thats because im heterosexual, then why do transbians often operate on different dynamics and not the ones that cisbians do? i bet youd say its because theyre "heterosexual males" too. personally, i feel like this is just an excuse
>>43851080Why TF would they want to kill other women? Take your meds
>>43851557i mean kill as in be incredibly annoyed by other foids since theyre like the total opposite of them. You take your meds
>>43851583Yeah, why would they want to do that? They're sexually and romantically attracted to women, a lot of the "butch lesbian" stuff is just living in a pseudo-heterosexual role, it shouldn't be hard to understand
All radfems (especially femreppers) and incels (especially reppers) should be forced into the CWC forced mating chambers and forcefully married for life. All accusations of abuse from either side should be thrown out the window because you deserve it for being sexist /r9k/ rejects that have to shit up my board
>>43851438u’d have to be a retard to not know that even though similar dynamics in relationships exist, separate cultures often come with them. the way u describe it, u know nothing about dyke culture (because youre cishet) and can only compare what u do know to what transbians do because u believe that lesbianism for cis women is in a constant state of trying to avoid misogyny, if im understanding u correctly. the exclusion of trans women from modern lesbian history and the promotion of radical feminism/sexual censorship is the only reason why u assume cisbians are somehow tame in comparison anyway. like there are lots of freaky ass cisbians, but u fetishize transbians, so ur in spaces where u see more criticism than most about them. the cisbians criticizing them are not usually the same lesbians that have weird shit theyre into. most terfs are very sanitized. so it has nothing to do with being male vs female. everybody is capable of being into weird sexual dynamics, however, ur heterosexual socialization and lack of knowledge on dykes prevents u from seeing cis women as a group that can be vulgar about sex, thus causing u to be attracted to and understand a group u subconsciously associate with vulgarity (gay men/transbians). which doesn’t make transbians males, at least not to me, but theyre definitely closer to that for u based on ur thinking imo
>>43851829You*
>>43851775Kill yourself retard
>>43851602>Yeah, why would they want to do that?because theyre pseudo reppers and most of them do actually end up being either trans men or reppers, which just catches my attention because i want to know how this is any different from reppers who are heterosexual instead. it seems that all that separates them is having a cool label prior to that realization vs not.>a lot of the "butch lesbian" stuff is just living in a pseudo-heterosexual roleso theyre lying about their dynamics not being pseudo-heterosexual then. thats all i needed to know>>43851829>dyke culturenot a thing, keep coping foid>prevents u from seeing cis women as a group that can be vulgar about sexbecause theyre not dude. majority of them are not, you dont even see the same phenomenon of "sanitized terfs" happening on mens side, that alone tells you this is unfortunately something foids are more prone to experiencing. the freaks you mention are the exception not the rule>doesn't make transbians malesok good>theyre definitely closer to that for u based on ur thinkingNo
>>43849428Do you think that a “male” could understand your experience if you carefully explained it to him or still no? Be honest
>>43852303No, I'll be laughing when you do, though.
>>43852333u must be a hurt tgirl larping unless ur just really retarded and never grew up around actual gay people. there are plenty of gay men who try to act holier than thou about how they arent like “those” kind of homosexuals. nobody is a monolith, there is no rule to how lesbians or gays navigate sex. the only things ‘foids’ (lesbians really) are more prone to experiencing is censorship, which is why u THINK theres a rule. cishet women read agegap stepfather monster rape porn for fun and u actually believe that lesbians are all asexual nuns bruh
