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Why does no one read him anymore?
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His shorter works are better. ‘Sun’ for instance.
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If no one read him then bookstore chains wouldn’t carry him
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>>24847224
It really was. Nothing more than a soap opera.
Sons and Lovers is pretty good though.
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>>24840545
He got merked by Colin Hanks
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>>24840767
Die

>>24840545
A lot of his shit was pointless perversion

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Is this shit actually good? I watched the movie and didn't like the humor, I tried playing the game back in the late 80s and didn't like the humor, I tried reading it in high school and didn't like the humor, am I just not getting it? It was everywhere at the time, was it just a product of its age and I was of too advanced intelligence for my era?
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>>24843745
42 is the original "the cake is a lie"
Or, as the elderly seem to believe kids these days say, 6, 7.
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>>24844290
Oh, the poor Babel-fish. That gag still holds up. Super edgy.
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>>24848131
God, no. You'll be morally justified in punching people that do in the throat, though, so you'll have that going for you, which is nice.
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>>24848604
I dunno take a picture of your dome first so I can assess that properly
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>>24848604
>the entire premise is based off 5 years of internet history
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>less Americans reading
>more not being able to read/follow a book

How would you fix it, /lit/? How would you make reading for for kids/teens?
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>>24846508
>Simple
Pick up a book fag
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>>24848644
Why are you so mad?
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>>24846379
No they're doing the right thing. Academia is a dead end. Idiocy will bring up birth rates. Don't ask how I know.
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>>24846472
> Another reason people hate books is because a lot of literature you're forced to read or is considered classic is actually hot garbage, complete irredeemable trash plot wise that's only recommended reading because of prose. This is also an attitude I see on /lit/ a lot
It’s strange that you can’t reflect on your own abilities enough to recognize that the problem isn’t classic literature. Imagine someone saying they hate art because their teacher made them look at paintings and the only art that matters is manga because it’s the only fun art that you enjoy.
You’d think it was a small child that was soft in the head. Which is correct.

Without the basic ability to appreciate something you can’t comprehend what there is to appreciate. Talent is meaningless to you. A scribble and old master are equivalent to you as it is for a pigeon who would shit on both. So too for your appreciation of books. You praise Sanderson and you think the problem is he writes “standard American English”. Which of course isn’t the problem. But how could you know?

> Turns out it's enjoyable if you're reading to enjoy the story not to memorise details and beats for a test.
You misunderstood the conclusion of your own observation.

Post your favorite fictional characters ITT
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>>24847588
Someone came up with these ten commandments anon, if not a historical moses then who?

I am the Lord thy God. Thou shall not have strange gods before Me.
Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.
Honor thy father and mother.
Thou shall not kill.
Thou shall not commit adultery.
Thou shall not steal.
Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.
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not a character but my favourite fictional setting is space
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>>24847588
This mischievous nigga right here
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>>24847588
Moses is based, I was sad when he died. Way better prophet than Muhammad.
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>>24847588
>fictional
We’ve had genetic evidence of both Moses and Abraham for a while now desu.

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"Next Generation" edition

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stop being mean.
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>/wng/ leaves the thread
>immediately dies
CURIOUS!
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>>24848998
it really is a night and day difference
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Thinking of blowing a little cash on a 4chan ad for my KDP ebook. I'll target /lit/, but what other boards might be enticed by a slightly surreal, sapphic dark romance? I can only think of /u/ and maybe /x/.

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Give me your honest thoughts on The Culture series.
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>>24848556
Based and feral pilled
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>>24848509
It's garbage like all science fiction.
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I liked Excession solely because the smug commie gods get one-upped for the first time.
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>>24848509
Top shelf sci-fi. Like the other anon said, thoughtful and imaginative. Every book has something to say, some commentary, some thought-provoking questions or themes. None of them read like shenanigans just for the sake of having another entry in a series, all are individual works.
And it doesn't get imaginatively lazy either, the scenes, settings, technologies always feel novel enough or crazy enough to be real. No lazy recourse to the shorthand of standardized sci-fi imagery.
In conclusion, it's ok.
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>>24848509
I picked this up after Against a Dark Background but shortly put it down again. I imagine it picks up, especially throughout the series, but the main character and the start was just too off-putting for me.

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Why is it so unusual in the history of thought for someone to be so thoroughly God-affirming yet so perfectly irreligious?

After Plotinus I can think of very few, and all are relatively recent. Even the germans, or the french spiritualists (think Ravaisson, Bergson) seem to remain open to religiosity on principle.

Notably, Eric Perl (neoplatonism scholar, former Roman Catholic) has apostasized in recent years, and theologian David Bentley Hart (though for some mysterious reason he still insists on calling himself a christian) does not seem terribly convinced about things like exclusivism or the real efficacy of religious rituals.

But by and large, people who are willing to admit that the world depends on a principle (call it what you want, really) tend to be open to or convinced of the notion that said principle could manifest or reveal itself in another special, priviledged way, that it could somehow act no longer as the principle, but as a being among beings, intervening among them and upon them.

This is obviously a very counterintuitive idea, and actually extremely hard to reconcile with what is commonly called "classical theism". It's not just that there is a gap between say, the quinque viae and religion, it's that there is an apparent (and I would say, probably actual) contradiction between the latter and any framework in which the former have any meaning.

So what gives? My bet is that historically most people working/writing in this field were initially religious and picked it up as apologetics. But they tended to surreptitiously equate theism and religion, metaphysics with legalism, ethics with casuistry. This, is turn, is off-putting to people who might otherwise have been interested in the topic, and, having been convinced that theology was essentially a part of religion, discard it altogether.

(Of course I'm not counting the deist thing as that has little to do with actual metaphysics/theology.)
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>>24840808
saying this guy believes in God is like saying Buddhists believe in God...Plotinus is an annihilationist who was coping about the hatred of his own body
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>>24848022
>If Plotinus can't be described as 'religious', why does he take so much trouble to allegorize/philosophize Greek myths?
Gee, I don't know, maybe because he knew that they (or Egyptian myths, for that matter) could not be taken literally, but that the reason they held so much sway over greek culture was because they contained a truth that existed completely apart from them and from it?
Which again, would obviously make him NOT religious?

Idk, just a guess.
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>>24848170
>saying this guy believes in God is like saying Buddhists believe in God...
Might be, depending on the buddhist. I'm no expert but it seems to me that some strands of East Asian Buddhism in particular came much closer to a sane (and greek) conception of God than the abrahamic magical sky daddy. Plotinus may have had some knowledge of Buddhist thought, though that's highly debated. (some in the 20th century have gone as far as speculating that Ammonius Saccas was a buddhist going by Gautama's nickname, Sakyamuni)

He wasn't an annihilationist, though. And the extent to which he actually was "ashamed of being in a body" is debatable. (though those are two unrelated concerns)

He probably wouldn't have believed in personal immortality (which makes him somewhat closer to Aristotle than to Plato), and how he would reconcile that with his belief in metempsychosis is a difficult, though not intractable problem.

There might be some truth in the anecdote that recounts his dying words, but at the very least I think it's true to the spirit of his writings.
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>>24848058
Try all of Ennead IV.4. for starters. IIRC it contains not just references to technical astrological concepts but also a detailed overview of real metaphysical questions in astrology and astrological/theurgic magic.
>Next thing you'll be telling me he could read hieroglyphics.
I have never thought about it, it wouldn't surprise me if he could but I don't think that's relevant.
>>24848170
Take your meds annihilationism schizo.
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>>24840808
Unironically, Alan Watts

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>ermm anon why don't you have a single female author in your book case?
>but you have all the Pynchons? Seriously??? Are you literally an incel or something?
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>>24848329
Source: my ass
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>>24847622
Don't my Flannery O'Connor, Hildegard of Bingen, and Theresa of Avila books count anonette? Oh why look here's a modern one, Tampa. What a novel that was.
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>>24848809
Kek
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>>24847737
It's because this website is probably owned and run by fucking kikes. Let's see if I get banned and the post removed ay? Frankly I hope so this place is cancer.
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>>24847772
>that rape scene
kek

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Idealism and the Protestant reformation were mistakes.
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>>24848913
I understood him as putting them both as necessary parts of society and paths men use to channel their masculine energy, with the combination of both being necessary to become a leader. I have my disagreements with Evola too i.e. I'm not entirely sold on solar and lunar being racial and do think Guénon is more spiritually aware (most importantly because he actually initiated himself into a tradition) but I still find his work phenomenal overall.
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>>24848838
Good book, although it still has a few issues, but good intro, it's best if you read Plato's works on eros and love
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>>24848792
how do they even differ from Southern Baptists?
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>>24848985
They're basically Presbyterians who believe in believer's baptism, instead of paedobaptism. Calvinistic. Hold to covenant theology, sola scriptura, etc. most are confessional and hold to the 1689. They believe the church is Israel, and view Jews as wicked and in need of conversion.
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>>24848838
I can't with Guenon. dude is an open orientalist and my origins are lowland Anglo-Irish. complete cultural clash.

What am I in for?
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>>24848807
Is it talent or is it just luck? What makes this romance authoress better than all the other romance authoresses? Why was Daisy Ridley chosen to play Rey when there were literally thousands of other pretty but not too pretty actresses who could have played her just as well?
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>>24847966
>>24848075
The thing is there are millions of these crap books and only one in a million get lucky and catch on. Please don't add more slop to the world, just play the lottery instead.
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>>24848909
Probably because they put out for the right people, and then maybe blackmailed as a bonus incentive. There is no such thing as luck, it's just causes we don't understand and coinciding of events.
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>>24848075
this is exactly the same as seeing a retarded video like hawk tuah going viral and thinking 'i'll make a retarded video and go viral too!' no way won't. you'll make a retarded video and be lost in the sea of 1 trillion retarded videos uploaded that day and get 7 views. you'll write smut equal and comparable to viral smut and get 20 sales after an aggressive ad campaign. the success has nothing - NOTHING - to do with the quality of product, of which there are, in the romance category, not thousands, not hundreds of thousands, but literally millions of near-indistinguishable works. unless you can market like audra winter - which isn't calculated but rather the culmination of narcissistic personality disorder and a planetary sized ego - luck is the be all, end all. so go ahead. write that shit if you want. you will never, ever make a buck from it.
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>>24847802
Rey x Kylo fanfiction.
>>24848871
it's done in illustrations to show who wants it and who's surprised by it. In real life guys close their eyes too because it's weird staring into a girls eyes from 1 inch away.

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What comfy books 25-35 year olds should read after doing hard work during the day? Books which not only should help them chill but also give them useful wisdom.
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>>24847366
>chill but also give them useful wisdom
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I like reading Maupassant
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>>24847366
i like anything by Jack London
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>>24847366
here is much interesting browsing material
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RIGHT WING BASICS
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pi20Rr9_BxBbMIfcZUTTGslfZTifEiCm
google drive easy to use interface
download the whole blob or pick and choose
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>>24848997
I do have those.

Atheist-sisters, our response? He has five of them!
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I don't need proofs to know God exists
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>>24843513
agrippa is funnier than every naive schooler meme
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>>24846848
>I don't believe in any gods, but I don't identify with atheism even though I am one because I am also racist, this is somehow a good argument against atheism
Perhaps in future we can replace your brain with that from donor mice and see an improvement in your ability to reason.
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>>24843519
Pascal quit math because he felt it was wrong for Christians to study since it took time away from religion and didn’t please God

>>24843608
Gods exist in Buddhism but not necessarily as objects of worship, they’re just incarnations where the pleasures far outweigh the pain but they’re mortal die and reincarnate. Gods can also be worshipped in Buddhism but this is purely about the culture of land, like if the Roman Empire had converted to Buddhism they would probably still have Jupiter and so on. Buddhism is incompatible with the belief in a creator because it is dogmatically agnostic about whether or not the universe always existed and whether or not there is a non-material soul, Buddha refusing to answer these questions. Buddhism outright rejects atman though, the soul in the sense of self. Like Nietzsche, Buddhism says there is no doer, only deeds. Deeds are like frames in a cartoon and they create an illusion of a doer but each deed is just the inexorable consequence of the prior
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>>24843633
>I can tell Catholics what they believe but Muslims can’t tell me

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Who are the Ancient Chinese equivalent of Livy and Tacitus?
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The Shiji by Sima Qian is the first real work of ancient Chinese history. You can also find historical bits and pieces in Confucius, Mencius, Zhuangzi etc. but you should understand that translating Chinese is fraught and entire meaning of passages can change from one translation to another. Make sure you have commentaries to work with if you want to make the most of ancient Chinese texts in English.
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>>24848199
What about the Spring and Autumn Anals? Is it worth reading?
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>>24848414
Nta but it’s generally regarded that you won’t get much out of the chunqiu without one of the classic commentaries, eg the Zuo tradition.
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>>24848414
>Anals
The word you want is 'Annals'.
Mistaking one for the other could be awkward desu.

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>beta readers love it
>the edgy dick in my writers group begrudgingly likes it
>I followed elements of style to a T
>yet still, out of 500 queries, I get one partial request

Am I missing something? Is there, like, an automaton approach to send out queries and i just have to numb my heart and just focus on hitting every even somewhat open minded agent with automaton bullshit?
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>>24848797
You're supposed to be selective, target people who work with stuff like what you've got, and personalize your query for them. Basically treat them like actual humans and not just stepping stone on your way to getting published
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>>24848797
>Am I missing something?
let's see your query letter. there are multiple things that can be wrong 1. your title 2. your summary 3. your bio, etc.
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>>24848797
>>24848833
>>24848841
>>24848843
>>24848844
>queries
>query letter
what the HELL are you guys talking about?!
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>>24848927
lmgtfy
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>>24848797
They're judging you on your pitch and your first couple of thousand words at best, not the whole novel. Those are what have to be 99/100 to get a response.

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ye olde: >>24835665

Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs).
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Thread Question:
What's your favourite decade of sci-fi?
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>>24848568
https://youtu.be/Rt0spqQtMKg
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>>24847315
kino
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I always see this guy in the b section on used book stores while I look Bakker stuff. Is his stuff any good?
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>>24846418
same
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>>24846387
>A unique feature of the folding-stock variants is the butt hook. With the stock extended, the hook can be pushed in and turned 90 degrees to the left or right, to fit under the user's forearm. This is to enable the shotgun to be fired with one hand; e.g. while abseiling/rappelling, or from a vehicle window while driving. The hook can be released from the buttplate completely by turning 180 degrees.
it's a pistol brace


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