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>>24840620

>>24840624
The barbarians are at the gates. The West needs you to man the walls. Traitors are in the palace. The West needs you to root them out. And what are you doing? Jerking off to anime porn and shitposting. Foul, deracinated knave.

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>>24840629
The west is already dead and we live in the ruins.

>>24840632
Shill your book elsewhere, heathen.

>>24840620
13) Take benzos

>>24840620
You kid, but this is what the average conservative goy actually thinks

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>clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
>academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
>research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
>assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 3 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
inb4
>he's a drug addict tho!
>his office was messy once!
>er...you don't have a dad!
>er...wash your dick!
>his daughter is a slut!
>y-you're Jordan
>he likes the Jews!
>he's controlled opposition!
Still triggering trannies who don't like the truth, libtards who propagandize, racists he won't associate with, and pseuds who can't tell the difference between a media personality and real life

>>24840629
the barbarians know how to live like real fucking men, unlike the author of 12 rules for cucks

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why did peterson say "give em hell" to israelis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0NevPgbOQ

>>24840666
hes not gonna read this bro

>>24840708
In fact, I already have.

>>24840697
99% of Americans in positions of social prominence are compromised Israeli assets.

>>24840632
oh yeah, i remember kingsnorth. seemed like a cool dude. didn't realize he was still writing. how did you like this one? sound maybe-interesting maybe-crap
>>24840633
i seriously doubt he would shill here. iirc he lived off-grid with his family and wouldn't go further with tech or media than watching film on tape. he had already made it, anyway

What's your point? that is good advice for a huge proportion of failed men. Ok, you are above it? Popular thing bad? Want a cookie? Grow up.

>>24840864
its really not. that advice will make you an incel, and if you keep following it you'll probably kill yourself. hollow and meaningless. hijacks our desire to be virtuous for no good. sage

>>24840873
>if you keep following it
I agree but previously most of these 'men' weren't following anything, at least it will give them a footing and get them on the path to going nowhere. If they later realise that the advice is shallow and will destroy them is another question. Nothing else was able to drive these people into action, they needed fiction packaged into nonfiction.

>hasn't read the book

>>24840880
fair, i guess. if you want to better yourself, maybe a list of ostensibly good things to do is what you need, even if you revise that list completely after a couple of weeks.

>>24840892
I meant to write the path to going somewhere, I think the Freudian slip of saying going nowhere was interesting as if there's no difference.

>>24840620
http://www.google.com/search?q=48+laws+of+power

>>24840629
let them take it. What's the point of upholding a society when all it does is fuck you, and pander to those exact barbarians?

>>24840620
Sorry I need at least 11 hours of sleep every day,
but I support you paying taxes, sacrificing for your wife/family and sacrificing for your country.
I am going to bed, you can go and sacrifice yourself. Good luck.

>>24840861
I'm only a few chapters in and he has already name dropped Spengler and Guenon and mentioned his conversion to Orthodoxy. I fear he is turning into a /lit/ meme.

Still interesting reading, though.

If you sleep more than 3 hours every night lower your tone when talking to me

>>24840620
>... and become a neurotic, dysfunctional mess like me

>>24842302
Wise Indian man once has a story
Teacher says to student: 4+2=6
Student says okay.
10 days later student asks teacher what is 4+2 teacher says..I do not know. 7?
Student says no you say it’s 6 before. So it must not be 6
THIS TEACHES US THE FACT DOES NOT MATTER WHO TEACHES IT

>>24841645
>if you don't have insomnia, lower your tone when talking to me

>>24842302
. Imagine your dad told you adultery was wrong, only to years later get caught cheating. Would that make adultery any less wrong?
Come up with a genuine critique of JP, pseud

>>24842310
Good morning saar

>>24841226
I'll never understand "save the West" types converting to Eastern Orthodoxy. It has all the doctrinal problems of Rome, plus a bunch of Eastern mysticism sprinkled in. I suppose seeing the pope parade around in a rainbow-colored stole, and kissing the feet of Muslim immigrants, while simultaneously telling a generation of young people who struggle to find good jobs and house themselves that that it's a moral imperative for them to accept more immigrants is the main driving factor. That and the fact that Protestantism is so splintered, and megachuch grifters like Joel Osteen are some of the dominant forces. Not to mention dispensational theology that places unbelieving Jews above Christians.

Anyway, just bizarre that EASTERN mystic stuff from swarthy men with wispy beards is what draws in the "we must save the nations of our forefathers" types. Not in a million years would some serb in a dress draw me in. People need to read from Genesis to Revelation and form their own theological ideas before committing to any one theological ideology. "It looks based, bro" is no reason to join a specific church.

>>24842318
Yes? A knowledgeable person with great authority who often preaches to others is a example to people. If this person takes drugs or fucks prostitutes then it becomes reasoble for other to also take drugs and fuck prostitutes.

>>24842346
Forgot to mention that Jordan Peterson is a drug-addled crazy person. Totally baffled that this guy got a loyal following from writing a book of cliche platitudes like "Look'em straight in the eye and give'em a firm handshake, Bucko"..

Are we so starved for common sense advice that we latch onto grifters like him to get it? C'mon bros.. it's embarrassing.

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>>24842310
>lifestyle tips are like mathematical facts
If you say so, Captain Capslock.

>>24842318
>Come up with a genuine critique of JP, pseud
He's just an asshole with an opinion, same as anybody else. Opinions are not objective truths.
The faggot claims to be a Jungian, but makes no acknowledgment of the Shadow personality, or the imperatives of individuation. It's no surprise he became neurotic. He's the real pseud around here.

i'm just not taking advice from a man who:

>got himself addicted to drugs, shipped off to russia to be put into a coma, because he was too much of a bitch to taper off and face the consequences of his actions: withdrawal, all while his wife was going through cancer treatment
>raised a whore
>refuses to say whether or not he's a christian, though uses christian scripture as the basis for many of his arguments
>is so emotionally unstable he randomly cries at the drop of a hat
>makes absurd claims like apple cider, or vineger, or whatever it was, made him stay up for weeks on end without sleeping
>promotes schizo fad diets
>dines with netanyahu
>admires Jung
>dresses like a homosexual batman villian


everything in my being screams "charlatan! fraud! huckster!" when i hear this guy speak.

>>24840620
>Sacrifice yourself for your family.
The main reason I have avoid making a family. My dreams and hopes are dead enough as is without them.

>>24842318
Is my dad a credible authority, or not?
If he is, why would he defy his own wisdom; and if not, why listen to him at all?

>>24842434
He's right in that "good advice is good advice", no matter who gives it... but wrong to assume that there's no harm in seeking good advice from clearly insane people.

"he" being the JP fanatic that you're replying to, not your dad, of course

>>24842380
>>got himself addicted to drugs, shipped off to russia to be put into a coma, because he was too much of a bitch to taper off and face the consequences of his actions: withdrawal, all while his wife was going through cancer treatment
Nobody is perfect
>>raised a whore
Objectively false, just a weird narrative incels made up
>>refuses to say whether or not he's a christian, though uses christian scripture as the basis for many of his arguments
So?
>>is so emotionally unstable he randomly cries at the drop of a hat
He feels everything very deeply which is a plus in my book
>>makes absurd claims like apple cider, or vineger, or whatever it was, made him stay up for weeks on end without sleeping
Maybe it does?
>>promotes schizo fad diets
Define "schizo" and "fad"
>>dines with netanyahu
So?
>>admires Jung
So?
>>dresses like a homosexual batman villian
100% posted by someone who wears sweatpants in public

>>24842463
lol

>>24842346
I am grateful that I had a period where I seriously looked into Orthodoxy, it led me to totally new perspectives on Christianity/Christendom as a whole. Granted after the honeymoon phase I quickly saw it was plagued by many of the same issues as the Roman church, as you said, and that if we really want to fix the Church (and society as a whole) we cannot run into escapist fantasies.
>People need to read from Genesis to Revelation and form their own theological ideas
isn't that half the reason the protestants are so fractured? While we should engage with scripture deeply, to try and reinvent the theologically wheel is absurd. All one does is realize why the various councils condemned many heresies.

>>24842536
>isn't that half the reason the protestants are so fractured?
Yes.

What's the alternative?

>>24840620
>sleep 3 hours a night
>only eat one meal at the end of the day
Great way to feel like shit all the time and make yourself crazy

>Another jbp thread turns into religious babbling
Just fuck off already.

>>24842554
pretty on brand.

Hi

>>24842346
I'm a bit further along now. To be fair, Kingsnorth explicitly says 'the West is not worth saving. It sowed the seeds of its own destruction. We need to build a new culture.' But the chapters where he gets spiritual are utterly cringeworthy. Citing Seraphim Rose, a fairly idiotic normie view of AI, talking about the literal anti-Christ, taking Kurzweil's retarded predictions at face value, etc etc.

He's managed to pull out of that nosedive, though. I'm now moving into the ending with a nice discussion of the Art of Not Being Governed. I don't think he has any actually useful advice beyond platitudes, though.

>>24840620
based.

>>24840620
In hindsight it's incredible this soul crushing garbage was ever a thing or taken seriously.

>>24840632
This book sounds great, thanks for sharing!

>>24842536
protestants are all going to hell because no pope

>>24840638

14) Cry like a little bitch all the time.
15) Take more benzos

>>24840666

> spent decades personally helping hundreds of people

How do you know he helped them if he can't even help himself? How do you know he is not complete shit at his work?

>research ... the neurobiological basis of addiction

Still ends up a junky. What is the point of researching what makes you a junky if you can't even avoid being a junky yourself? Sounds like he sucks at it too. Most of us are not junkies and we didn't have to study shit to achieve it.

>university professor who mentored

You mean that a shit professor that ended up being a junky gave terrible advice to dozens of grad students

>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 3 best selling books

Just another shill online duping losers by telling them it's somebody else's fault. In his case, some made up bullshit about Postmodern Marxists.

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>>24840620
I'm good.

>>24840620
Alpha Maleism is the Transgenderism of the right

>>24846405
transgenderism is the transgenderism of the right

>>24840632
Gonna check this out thanks anon

>>24840629
>And what are you doing? Jerking off to anime porn and shitposting. Foul, deracinated knave.
Bro you're in 4chan, the most degenerate place on the internet

>>24840666
>>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
Did you watch any of His clases? The guy is an idiot who believes chinese discoveree dna before modern science because one of their myths have some serpents in a shape resembling a dna chain, he's intelectually as deep as a cristal witch from tiktok

>>24847769
>The guy is an idiot
Smarter than you and more successful in multiple fields of endeavor than you'll ever be in one.

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>>24846455
(and that's a good thing)
:3

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>>24842463
>got himself addicted to drugs
They're lying, anon.
_____________________
Jordan Peterson took a doctor prescribed medication. There is no evidence he was abusing it or taking it in a higher dosage than directed by his physician. He experienced a severe side effect from said medication culminating in his seeking treatment in 2018. This side effect and symptoms related to it were not listed on the medication until 2019--after Peterson had gone public about his symptoms.

In a nutshell, Jordan Peterson sustained a neurological injury from doctor prescribed medication. This affected his immune system and his body began reacting to random foods he normally had no problem consuming (people who experience the same side effect will have histamine responses to food/drink they were not allergic to in the past--their body has seemingly random immunological responses that vary in severity and degree). On top of this there are also adverse effects on the regulation of the parasympathetic nervous system. As far as the later is concerned psychological symptoms arise (e.g. a sense of dread/terror, lack of impulse control, sleep regulation, appetite regulation, etc).

When Peterson stopped taking his medication due to the above he experienced severe withdrawal symptoms. This is not due to an "addiction" but rather a physical dependency that commonly arises from wide range of medications. Akathisia is one of the worst of such symptoms as it creates an insatiable sense of restlessness. This is not simple anxiety although anxiety may arise due to akathisia which is itself a motor disorder. The reason this symptom is labelled "subjective" is because it is qualitative and patient reported. The pain one has during a migraine or a cluster headache is also "subjective"--this doesn't mean the pain doesn't exist.

Peterson sought treatment in Canada but was given a poor diagnosis and thereby sought treatment at a specialized facility that developed an experimental treatment regimen specific to the symptoms he was experiencing. He was put into a comatose state so as to negate extreme withdrawal symptoms and to avoid further neurological damage. The treatment was a success and in the years since he has continued with him life and found success in multiple endeavors.

People who want to attack Peterson try to label him as a drug addict. In so doing, they wish to bring in the connotations associated with addiction as a way to defame him. In realty, Peterson had a physical dependency on medication, as many people do, AND had a server side effect, unknown at the time, that compounded the dangers of simply tapering off the drug. No loaded language is needed to describe what actually happened; an appeal to the facts at hand alongside information relating to such experiences themselves suffice.

Here's a medical doctor who specializes in the treatment of medication withdrawal explaining exactly what Peterson went through:

https://youtu.be/C_32icvWpIg

>>24847787
>serbian flag
oh fuck off

>>24840650
Bait

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>>24840620
How about I fucking kill you? How about that?

>>24848904
Jordan Peterson is a retarded cock sucking parasite utterly incapable of following, let alone understanding the consequences of even 1% of the literal garbage that he gets paid by literal Jews to spew.

just save me the time of tracking down your IP address by killing yourself right now with a drug overdose you fucking nigger.

>>24840620
I like how you didn't specify what Church to go to. I'm picking the Church of Satan.

4chan for 21 hours a day
Read for 4 hours
Smoke meth
Always engage in casual sex
Never go to church
Always smile
Be warm
Be flippant
Shave
Don’t talk your neighbor’s girl, study her biology with a serious face and put her needs above your neighbor’s
Drink 4L of cheap vodka a day
No “work” days

>>24849212
>4chan for 21 hours a day
>Always engage in casual sex

>>24840666
Peterson doesn't like pasta

>>24842346
>Don't overcommit to any theology
>Just do "be your own Pope Protestantism" and postmodern eclecticism.
>This is theologically neutral and if you don't do it you will be a "cuck" and listening to "swarthy" men.
...

>>24842365
Pre- the shifting of the Overton window academia was so insanely left-leaning that Peterson legitimetely came across as a radical. I don't think people even remember what life was before Trump's first campaign.

>>24840620
i was under the impression this guy has some decent advice he just has a very eccentric way of conveying it to others. i thought that was why people laugh at him and his lobsters

>>24840632
The west or the world for that matter really never had a peak or whatever. People just look with rose tinted goggles at whatever came before. The old timers will tell you about and highlight the good because they're old and don't fit into societies mold. It's just more apparent now due to flow of information.

Postmodernism is in a way a catalyst for this "fall" but not really. Postmodernism at its core is a very useful and beautiful thing. It's what stands in the way of authoritarianism. Jordan himself is a postmodernist (really, he is, stop kidding yourselves). But postmodernism is just highlighting problems without providing paths forwardin solving them. Thus you end up with a lot of conflict and no resolution. But at the same time a society that doesn't stand up to scrutiny isn't a good thing either.

The core of the issue is the consequences of globalist capitalism. When you let the people with the highest stakes in the economy control the world (you may scream conspiracy, but really they do) then nothing will ever change in favor of everyday man. It's all in the interests of filling the pockets of the elite. We're still in an authoritarian society.. It's just not 1984, it's Huxley's brave new world, all subdued by comfort rather than beaten down. So I mean sure we're fucked but, we always were, it's just apparent now.

I don't really see a future where anything resolves, the world is too complex, too many layers of control. If you think transpeople are the issue you are midwit core... They're a non issue, just a distraction to keep you from thinking about the actual destruction taking place beneath the surface.

>>24849416
Resource extraction peaked around 15 years ago and trannies like you subverting sincere discussions with your vapid horseshit is a major contributing factor to the collapse.

>>24840620
Can't tell if this is satire anymore.