>>24846467
>should i read
Yes, but only the first 20 to 60 pages. Then you can always just carry it around in public and re-read the first couple chapters whenever you want

He killed himself, what do you think?

>>24846482
>He killed himself
Because he knew it would be impossible to write a better book

>>24846467

Wtf is Reddit in a literary context?

Yeah it's good, it's funny and the best written dialogue I've read. It does drag on a bit though.

>>24846467
>is this thing that predates Reddit by a decade Reddit?
No.

>>24846485
i wonder if there are any anons who actively prefer The Pale King

>>24846512
We will never know since it was never actually written, the book published as The Pale King is not even a finished first draft

>>24846467
It's fucking amazing—ignore the contrarians.

It's fun. It reminds me more of Wes Anderson than reddit. I think of Reddit as like Chuck Wendig...when does the bacon narwhal zip bang woozle wuzzle bazinga.

>>24846500
Infinite Jest had a big impact on the development of humor, language, and worldview on the internet. This includes 4chan, but the biggest hold out of HOW'S influence in its purest form is definitely Reddit.

>>24846467
anytime i've asked a ''reader'' about this book their answer is always how far they got into it. or they know of it and haven't tried because they as well haven't met anyone who has finished it

>>24847009
I've finished it but nobody believes me

>>24847009
Lots of people have finished it, including me. I don't get why people act like long books are an impossible chore but can binge 8 seasons of a TV show in a week. Literally you just have to commit to finishing. This one isn't even particularly hard because it switches up constantly.

>>24846495
He just wants to make sure every single action he ever makes is socially acceptable and cool because godforbid someone online thinks hes cringe

>>24847099
He fears the gazers. The oglers. The hoodwinkers and wet willyers whose glares feel worse than your promnight queen empurpling your scrotum. He lacks the gravitas to show up with his fly down and proudly proclaim to the world that he's there and he's doing a thing sincerely.

>>24846512
that would be me (but not by very much)

>>24846467
the answer is yes. It's a great book and it's not that difficult to read, it's just long.

>>24847142
>empurpling
Thanks for the new word anon

>>24846549
>Wes Anderson
>fun

>>24847195
Early Wes Anderson was fun. It's like Royal Tenenbaums or Rushmore.

>>24846467
Brief Interviews with Hideous Men and Consider the Lobster are his best books.

I reached the part with the burglary and nasal congestion, let out a hearty chuckle and dropped it once and for all

>>24847265
i watched bottle rocket last month and that movie was so fucking awesome, and you can barely even tell that its a wes anderson movie

>>24846540
why do you think it's amazing? genuinely interested. I started reading it and his descriptions are quite immersive, but the first setting of a kid tennis player read like (and was) a pretentious self-insert. His outburst infront of the faculty was quite funny though.

>>24846549
>>24849092
anderson is a good comparison. fun is subjective but it's definitely comfy

>>24849092
You can't relate because you're not a generational hyper-genius. The rest of us are.
Simple as.

>>24847142
I find sincerity repulsive.

Every other line is a referential quip, and an overbearing tendency to be hyper specific about every object/organisation described in a smug cutesy way.

It's very reddit.

>>24849168
So, what I'm getting from this is Reddit has always been super high IQ, and 4chan is the REAL midwit site.
If I start acting like a Redditor, do you think my IQ can be salvaged? Will it go up?

>>24846467
After reading 300 pages of blood meridian (which Harold Bloom considered the greatest aesthetic achievement over anything by delillo, Roth or Pynchon) I realized that DFW is a much better writer than McCarthy. It's in the stylization which is so unnatural and really an excuse to say nothing. The key of DFW and the reason why he is so lovable and yet so repulsive to many people (and perhaps to the same people) is he actually tries to say something, out of his weak, pathetic heart. He is so American--he's absolutely pathetic and he didn't hide it. I think that's why people like Bloom hated him. Wallace was a sentimental slob and its scary to see yourself in him, especially when you're a Jew and yeah, Wallace was in many ways a Jew
His best piece of writing:
https://sdavidmiller.com/octo/files/no_google2/GoodOldNeon.pdf

>>24849092
Sure, it's silly and extremely digressive, but I find the prose gorgeous, especially when it gets all SoC in some poetic and usually tragic scene. The dialogue is among the best I've read, and I love how it tackles especially addiction and the (insert here a defense for being pretentious that DFW's works sort of explicitly argue against) the postmodern struggle for earnest communication and connection. There's just so much in it that's meaningful... but I know that the mindset you enter a work with is crucial to how you receive it, so YMMV. It's showing off, but it's part of why I like it. It's inventive.

I wasn't able to read it past the age of 24 because it's written like YA. I would say skip it if you've aged out of it.

>>24846482
>He killed himself, what do you think?
so yes then

>>24849173
>what I'm getting from this is Reddit has always been super high IQ, and 4chan is the REAL midwit site.
4chan is truly a bell curve because the relative lack of moderation attracts both the best and the worst society has to offer.
Reddit's moderation, which includes its power hungry pedo mods, its tranny crazed staff, and its upvote system that acts as a filter to control and silence unwanted commentary, only attracts the middle of the curve. There are maybe some subs worth visiting, but they're likely private and good luck spending enough time on reddit to get noticed and invited.
If there is a place like 4chan that somehow filters out the lower end of the spectrum, someone invite me please. I'm not very smart, but I'll be quiet.