why are all the threads getting killed

read RI

because retards mass reply to trolls

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How does this happen?

>>24846839
When people see you leaving shit reviews and comments they block you.

>>24846831
Probaly RR authors reporting them for brigading.

>>24846841
Ah so users are able to do it, not mods? Yeah I left a comment calling out undisclosed AI-assistance, got banned from commenting by the author, then tried to 0.5 star it and got that.

>>24846847
Yes. You also can't leave a rating on a VPN.

>>24846827
>>24846831
new jannies and RIfag

Any interesting writathon fictions up?

>>24846847
Authors can ban you, usually happens when you leave a comment on their fiction. Some do it pre-emptively if they think you're being negative and/or will leave a negative review.
>>24846875
The idea that someone hates /wng/ so much that they've applied to an unpaid position just to ban it is both hilarious and sad.

>>24846875
Janitors actually getting generals deleted? When did we get anybody who actually cares about website quality?

>got a real, non-AI comment on wattpad
yup I made it big

bro, learning proper "show, don't tell" prose is fucking brutal if you have done it the other way for over 30 years

>>24846974
this is the web novel thread not the writing general

>>24846974
Symptom of spending too much time worldbuilding and too little storybuilding

As a man, how do you write anything like Cinnamon Bun

>>24846989
eat lots of basedbeans

>>24846974
but tell don't show is kino

Aaaaaaaand it deleted, in 3.. 2.. 1..

bang slap smack hmph!

>>24846974
Read more desu, it just comes naturally that way, after a point you won't even think about show don't tell at all.

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>think about outlining an idea for a new story
>remember this image

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your MC isn't a little bitch, is he?

>>24846974
Show, don’t tell is a meme. So is most writing advice you see online.
Just take a look at these excerpts from Jurassic Park, and spot how many of the “15 things you need to cut from your manuscript!” it breaks. From using adverbs, to emotional tells, info dump, filler words, and more.
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Mike Bowman whistled cheerfully as he drove the Land Rover through the Cabo Blanco Biological Reserve, on the west coast of Costa Rica. It was a beautiful morning in July, and the road before him was spectacular: hugging the edge of a cliff, overlooking the jungle and the blue Pacific. According to the guidebooks, Cabo Blanco was unspoiled wilderness, almost a paradise. Seeing it now made Bowman feel as if the vacation was back on track.
Bowman, a thirty-six-year-old real estate developer from Dallas, had come to Costa Rica with his wife and daughter for a two-week holiday. The trip had actually been his wife’s idea; for weeks Ellen had filled his ear about the wonderful national parks of Costa Rica, and how good it would be for Tina to see them. Then, when they arrived, it turned out Ellen had an appointment to see a plastic surgeon in San José. That was the first Mike Bowman had heard about the excellent and inexpensive plastic surgery available in Costa Rica, and all the luxurious private clinics in San José.
Of course they’d had a huge fight. Mike felt she’d lied to him, and she had. And he put his foot down about this plastic surgery business. Anyway, it was ridiculous, Ellen was only thirty, and she was a beautiful woman. Hell, she’d been Homecoming Queen her senior year at Rice, and that was not even ten years earlier. But Ellen tended to be insecure, and worried. And it seemed as if in recent years she had mostly worried about losing her looks.
That, and everything else.
The Land Rover bounced in a pothole, splashing mud. Seated beside him, Ellen said, “Mike, are you sure this is the right road? We haven’t seen any other people for hours.”
“There was another car fifteen minutes ago,” he reminded her. “Remember, the blue one?”
“Going the other way …”
“Darling, you wanted a deserted beach,” he said, “and that’s what you’re going to get.”
Ellen shook her head doubtfully. “I hope you’re right.”
“Yeah, Dad, I hope you’re right,” said Christina, from the backseat. She was eight years old.
###
“Hey, Alan!”
He stood, a barrel-chested, bearded man of forty. He heard the chugging of the portable generator, and the distant clatter of the jack-hammer cutting into the dense rock on the next hill. He saw the kids working around the jackhammer, moving away the big pieces of rock after checking them for fossils. At the foot of the hill, he saw the six tipis of his camp, the flapping mess tent, and the trailer that served as their field laboratory. And he saw Ellie waving to him, from the shadow of the field laboratory.
“Visitor!” she called, and pointed to the east.

there's not a RI dupe thread up so we can finally know for sure if this one gets deleted if /wng/ is kill or not

>>24847121
Well?

>>24847236
/wng/ is kill anyways because everyone's afraid to post

what do you guys think of a Webnovel that is a quest, but qfter you get 1000 followers, you put the quest choices behind a paywall?

>>24847278
Seems optimistic to think you'll get 1000 followers.

>>24846879
>>24846839
It's such a funny system, if you want to say anything negative ever you have to review first or they'll block you before you can do it.

>>24847278
It could work, I know of several authors that take story ideas from subscribers. However the follower count restriction seems stupid and arbitrary and might actually put people off.

what are the most comedic WNs that don’t fall straight for “marvel” tier humor with sarcasm, quips, and undeserved, uncalled for smugness?

>>24847324
Beware of Chicken?

>>24847337
from what i remember from reading volume 1-2, it was comedic in a reddit manner

I wonder if anyone would be interested in a webnovel using 2nd person perspective?
I'm thinking of writing one.

>>24847278
>>24847360
combine these two idea

>>24847360
>anyone
sure, someone
>99.9% of people
definitely not. but if you insist on trying, you're going to want to hook in the Questing crowd somehow, because they're the only ones who read 2nd person

>>24847360
2nd person is a CYOA or self-insert smutfic gimmick

>>24847324
cafeteria worker

>>24847360
If you can make it look like it has plot relevance, like in Broken Earth, and you're damn good at writing, sure. Otherwise you'll just look like a fool.

>>24847352
What does the even mean?

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Somewhere Else
4 Nebraska high schoolers discover a portal to a magical world inspired by the Grimm Fairytales. (Not Isekai, they go back and forth taking gold and selling it in the real world)

(Told from 3 of the kids in flash backs retelling the story in their 30's)

I post this one because I think a lot of 4chaners will resonate with the center character, an autist who falls hard for fantasy world because life is so much better for him there

Hey, burgeoning web novelist here, I've been published traditionally before but it failed so I know I have to build my own base.

I present the best thing I've ever written

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/117503/somewhere-else

>>24847419
inconsistent chapter titles (ch1 dash different from ch2 colon), dropped

if you wanted autist representation, you got it

>>24847414
I'm going to use 2nd person sentences that i have to order to just expand upon the sentences and change it to third person perspective.
I find the straightforward pov with 2nd really shines when it's used to craft 3rd person perspective sentences much like that of a rough draft.

>>24847440
I have no idea what you're talking about, but straight 2nd is bound to cause reader fatigue unless it's interspersed with other perspectives. Honestly, I'd go (I am going...) with 4th-wall-breaking narrator occasional addressing the reader as you.

>>24847453
I'm using the old sentences and changing it all to 3rd person perspective.

Is what I meant.

>>24846827
I've added in the earnings per follower and follower to total member ratio. It wasn't as much as a problem I thought it would be, but it has various limitations and issues. The main one being the dataset didn't have the unique followers per author, and as previously mentioned, only has the total member count for the patreon. Look at it and let me know what else could reasonably be done if needed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT4RMb3KvSVCJ6PUPqn-JNqATcKqWwwEBC5HuAsJCT-VRn_wk66cMPbvCY0FlN0dBk8Wrr8eLrUhGfu/pubhtml#gid=16749951

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New writer here who's still on the drafting stage. Working on a story with duo protagonists, and here's the intro chapter for both.
If I could get some thoughts and opinions.

https://pastebin.com/P2YQ3wVW

https://pastebin.com/YABRsbP5

>>24847419
It's not badly written, but my god is it slow burn. I gave up after three chapters. People don't get into isekai to read 10k words of "happened in class today" before anybody even goes anywhere. Most of us have been to school and know what it's like and don't really need a recap.

>>24847493
>Aiko doesn't lie to you," I said, my voice a whisper. "Aiko cares. That's the difference between me and every other 'influencer' on...
Stopped reading there.
If your novel is not set in some medieval fantasy world I am not reading it.

>autistic nitpick
>dropped
every time. this place really is just a second /wg/ now lol

>>24847493
Not half bad, even though cyberpunk is not my thing. Your writing is readable and has some distinct personality too. I liked Aiko's part especially. But both scenes kinda drag and ask for trimming. I'm having trouble seeing the story, or how the povs connect. Even if the characters don't meet anyday soon, there should be some common ground from that start that helps recognize they share the same world and what are their relative positions in it. So it's not just a book you didn't ask for spliced in between the book you picked up.

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>>24847570
>taking obvious shitposts seriously

>>24847493
I'd use a colon here instead of the dash:
>But nestled among the fawning praise were the real gems—the intelligence reports from my devoted followers.
I don't have time to finish it right now, but it hooked me enough that I'll come back to it later.

>>24847419
I'll check it out

>>24847438
>inconsistent chapter titles (ch1 dash different from ch2 colon), dropped
"Thing X; dropped."
glad you fucking made it here. My heart leaps like a gazelle. And that was sarcasm. I told you so it would get through your layers of autistic idiocy.

>>24847453
>Honestly, I'd go (I am going...) with 4th-wall-breaking narrator occasional addressing the reader as you.
I went this exact route. Got panned *bad* for it. I like to go first person and address the reader. I want it to sound personal at times, intimate.

>>24847570
>webnovel, a litrpg rpg progression about an influencer
>autistic nitpick

>>24847638
nta
>tries to be parasocial with his readers
>they reject him
oof

>>24847631
if the author hasn't done their due diligence to make their work look good, im not gonna bother wasting my time

i'll let you off on chapter 5 or so, but if you make egregious grammar errors in the first few chapters (and especially chapter 1) or the blurb, then you clearly don't respect your work, so i won't put my time in it either

i was joking (only slightly, though) about the chapter name, because i opened the fiction page and it's immediately the first thing i notice

do better

>>24847580
>tells me they're obvious shitposts
>both of them come out to defend themselves

>>24847638
>Got panned *bad* for it
Did it come out of left field for them? Or what didn't they like specifically? Wondering because although my narration doesn't specifically target the audience, it is still breaking the 4th wall. Eg: "Patience, narrator."

>>24847638
There's a specific style within which this is allowed and in all other it really sucks ass. Judging by the fact that even RR isn't willing to deal with you, I'm gonna guess it's the latter.

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The new chapter of FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist' is out!!!
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story/chapter/2724016/sinful-blade-part-eight

This time: there is Mafia!!!

>>24847360
>AA author I follow reveals enemy after ~20 years of writing within the same universe
>second person for their perspective
Oh baby it was something else. Not webnovels though.

I was reading Journey of the Fate Destroying Emperor earlier this year.
Spirit Road trial is brutal.

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I tried actually reading Reverend Insanity and... it's actually really fucking good

>>24847904
nice try RI goy

>>24847904
Did you already read up to the part with the genderbend disguise?

>>24847920
I'm pretty sure anon pulled that out of his blown out asshole

>>24847933
>I'm pretty sure anon pulled that out of his blown out asshole
Dropped. What the fuck am I even reading for now?

>>24847920
>genderbend disguise
Disguise?

>>24847948
benefits

>>24847933
> "The Female Disguise Gu activated with a flash of pink light. In an instant, Fang Yuan’s tall frame shrank, his facial bones cracked and restructured, long purple hair cascaded down, and a sweet fragrance replaced his original scent. Even his Adam’s apple vanished. He — no, she — was now the spitting image of Fairy Zi Wei."

>>24847920
>>24847948
>>24847961
Well Hei Lou Lan does disguise as a male but as far as I recall FY never disguises himself as a woman.

>>24847967/lit/ doesn't allow fanfiction.

>>24847948
If you really are looking for gb content, do keep reading. Fang forcibly feminizes one of his enemies before deflowering him, making the transformation permanent.

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>>24847988
dafuq? and people still read this story?

>>24848004
He is joking obviously, jeez... people believe everything on the internet these days, there was no deflowering.

fang yuan dual cultivates with a genderbent jade beauty every night for months/years

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>>24848015
Can comfirm, this did happen

>>24848083
nuff RI, discuss BOC, western xianxia and their tendency to butcher chinese names as chinese western fantasy tends to butcher western names

>>24848113
What's BOC?

Ok, I don't think I have seen many chinese novels use English names. The one with magus in the title (supreme magus world or something) had that Leylin character with ai chip but it was so cringe I dropped after chapter 10.

>>24848113
I want to write a western xianxia, but translate all the terms. Orders instead of sects, houses instead of clans, mana instead of qi, knights instead of elders, etc.

Would this work?
Would RR sloppers even notice?

>>24848121
one xuanhuan WN named the main character Baruch Linley

>>24847493
That image looks like the moments before a rape on a gay doujin

>>24848083
>tfw you will never turn your bro into a girl and plow her at night so much that the old neighbor ladies complain

>>24847700
Yeah, why do people think they can just dump their unrevised first draft and called it a day? If you're so lazy to check by yourself, let JeetGPT do it for you

>>24848140
Aren't there tons of those already?

>>24848201
Why live

>>24848225
Idk I don't read westslopper xianxia
are there any good ones?

It's interesting how RR has seemingly infinite stories but if you do a search more specific than like fantasy+isekai you'll find barely any stories, usually only 1-3 ongoings with enough length and reviews to be worth trying.

>>24848280
RR is super niche, you're forgetting you're in a bubble lol. It's not some big website with endless stories. It's so small it doesn't even have a wikipedia entry

>>24847360
I can write a short story in 2nd person, but writing something like this long term would be difficult.

The shadow that had weighed heavily on your mind begins to lift. Slowly, you claw your way back to consciousness. The first sensation you notice is motion. Your body lurches and sways, carried along by an unseen force. Moments later, the steady clatter of hooves striking stone reaches your ears, echoing through the howling wind.
As your senses sharpen, the world around you begins to emerge from the haze. You see the shape of a horse, a coachman hunched over the reins, and a dense fog that hangs thick beyond the cart. You are seated in the back, rattling along a narrow path bordered by jagged cliffs and towering pine trees.
You try to remember how you got here, but your thoughts are scattered. You do not know where you are or what has happened.
You glance around, although your vision remains blurred, as if you are peering through frosted glass. Even more unsettling is the realization that you cannot move or speak.
“Hey, you,” a voice calls out.
You turn your head and see that you are not alone. Across from you sits a man clad in battered chainmail. His face is streaked with grime, and his blond hair and beard hang in tangled, unkempt strands. He may have passed for a vagrant, if not for the thick cords of muscle in his arms and the coarse rope binding his wrists.
You look down and discover that your own hands are tied in the same way.
“You’re finally awake,” the man says. “You were trying to cross the border, right? You walked right into the Imperial ambush. Same as us, and that thief over there.”
His words stir something inside you, but your memory remains blank. Did you try to cross the border? Why can’t you remember? And why do his words, and this entire situation, feel so familiar?
You follow his gaze and see two other men in the cart. One is a dark, wiry figure dressed in rags. The other wears a fine fur robe and sits stiffly with a gag over his mouth.
“Damn Stormcloaks! Skyrim was fine until you came along,” the wiry man snaps. “The Empire was nice and lazy. If they hadn’t been looking for you, I could’ve stolen that horse and been halfway to Hammerfell.”
Stormcloaks… Empire… Skyrim… The words echo in your mind with a strange familiarity. The recognition is there, just out of reach, like a word stuck at the tip of your tongue.

>>24847812
hi Kino-anon. Tina-anon saying hi.

>>24848280
>>24848335
there's legitimately less than 50 readable ongoing stories on RR at any one time

I asked a few days ago but didn't get any response. I need some help coming up with supers to include in a Suicide Squad commander story I have planned, hopefully with some witty names. I've already got a secretly evil superman antagonist and a generic strong protagonist guy to oppose him long term. For the squad itself, I currently have a snake lady, a weapon master, and a guy called The Blaster. Doesn't matter if they're good guys or bad guys, I just need some help coming up with them.

>>24848386
Why is this?

>>24848391
Guy who can stop time for 5 seconds but is otherwise completely mundane.

>>24848391
>suicide squad
Every single movie, show, video game about or featuring this retarded group of ...people? (what are they even supposed to be? superheroes, criminals, villains? who the fuck knows ) have flopped and yet you want to spend time and effort and write a web novel about them? Are you stupid?

>>24848458
It's a group of d-list villains that get forced into missions, basically the main draw is that some of them die and you don't know which ones will survive the story. They're written as anti-heroes.

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>>24847503

haha understandable

>>24847575
>>24847582
Thanks for the comments and both of you are completely right. I actually uploaded chapter 1 and 5 so the disconnect is my fault.

chapter 2
https://pastebin.com/h8L2cNWR

Chapter 3
https://pastebin.com/hhGN5qeN

>>24848458
What >>24848468 says. I'm not playing it straight, though. I'm going to have the protagonist be transmigrated into the role of the Amanda Waller type character and go out of his way to make better decisions than said character did (Not picking villains that will obviously betray him, not throwing away operatives stupidly, appealing to the squad's wants instead of threatening death, etc...).
>>24848407
That's perfect. Maybe I'll call him Nick Thyme and his super name can be Deadline.

>>24848391
Dude with extreme swings of luck, good and bad?

>>24847812
Still not for me, I'm afraid, but keep going. Proud of you mang.

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early first draft look at a game of cosmic titans so far https://rentry.co/em4txy3z, 16chaps(47k words) so far, any feedback appreciated, line edits for typos and such will come later.

>>24848699
I just got to Zeta. so far it's awesome, but it's rough. really rough. you slip tense a lot, and it took me a few times re-reading some parts to even figure out what was going on. but yeah, dope as shit. ill read some more later when i get a chance

>>24848727
thanks man, surprised at the mention of tense slips, I definitely try to rein it in to past tense but it just slips by on the first draft. I haven't been using Grammarly for line edits much as Yellow Typhoon so far, so I'm just singling out spelling or tense usages with my own eyeballs lately. Maybe it improves later, but outside eye is always helpful as well.

>>24846989
i assume step one is overdosing on iyashikei /cgdgt anime
but i haven't read it and am judging it by the title+cover

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>written with the most inaccessible and avant Gard poetic whatever prose
>super off meta
>almost no action at all, almost a drama at some points
>about a harpy who won't shut the fuck up and a sadboy cripple

>gets 4 times as many followers as my on-meta story
>even has a reply-guy now

What the fuck? What am I doing wrong? how is his working on a site that wants power fantasies and nonstop training?

>>24848776
the anon who constantly says quality doesn't matter is a secret saboteur trying to fuck you over
you still need to know how to write. on-meta doesn't mean shit if it's ass

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>>24848776
you're telling me, another jim beam shot down the hatch, assaulted several times by such poision ilk. cheers, kippi, kanpai.

>>24848776
also the 'meta' is a little complicated. something like male mc sysapoc is meta for the scene at large but struggles on RR comparatively. there's a few sysapocs that got like 800-2000 followers then go on to make like $60,000 every book they release on amazon lol
very dependent on your situation

>>24848776
>Total Views : 5,328
>Average Views : 157
>Followers : 159
No hate to the story, but you’re talking as if it has some crazy high follower count.
If you’re aiming for the one hundred followers range, you can write pretty much anything you want as long as someone somewhere finds it remotely amusing.
Even my shit post story that hadn’t been updated in two years still has a hundred followers.

>>24848776
yeah i dipped out like three lines in, sorry

>>24848817
159 /IS/ pretty high, not gonna lie. Mine already has 17 followers and 8 favorites and it's a finished 11k short story. I don't expect my main epic to be as much that if I were to launch it now; even ever.

>>24848796
down it with the wheelpill, anon
>>24848817
It's all relative, but the ones with crazy follower counts make sense to me. They're smooth to read and clear, and I take these things into account. So that's why I'm so confused why I'm below wheel & wing, even though I'd expect most people to be like >>24848818 , just completely confused.

I just don't know, I feel like there's a "free spirit" approach that makes me jealous. I don't understand it, and neither do a lot of people––but it seems like that uniqueness and poetry works?

>>24848829
>down it with the wheelpill, anon
what did he mean by this

>>24847324
i thought vainquer the dragon was funny
don't remember much about it though

>>24848850
Vainquer did too much referential humor for my tastes. I thought the more original comedy was good, but I found myself rolling my eyes when there was they kept bringing back not!Yugioh and the section dedicated to not!Hogwarts.
Captcha: TMNT2

>>24846878
seconding
come on readerfags, someone has to be interested in the writathon

>>24846878
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/138229/the-tales-of-mimethesiah

prose style is quite bad but is essentially a /x/ schizopost written as a story

>>24846832
I heard it sucked

>>24848859
>dumped all at once
huh. bit odd and clearly not in spirit of the event
>check his profile
>account made in 2023
>16 fics
>AI covers
>only used the AI assisted tag on his first fic and not the rest
>check blurbs
>mostly obvious AI
pretty sure this guy is a full time prompt engineer

>>24848876
the thing is his prose lacks much AI flourish and reads like a schizo

>>24848737
Tense issues. Join the club. I had never heard of "tense problems" before coming here. I started noticing it now, and I'm starting to catch myself doing it in the rough draft at times now. I'm pretty sure my tense issues came to the forefront when I suddenly went first person. The first person MC is relating the story though through prose, so I get the past tense requirement. It just seems perfectly natural for a person telling a story to be relating what happened n past tense, but then they'll say things *about* what happened, and it reads natural to me that some of that comes out as present tense. Yet while other complaints and niggles varied I did hear "tense" as a somewhat common review complaint of samples, so I'm attacking it.

>>24848884
eh. maybe not
still pretty lame to drop a 60k word novella and say it's for the writathon
guy definitely did not write it in the last 24 hours

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My #1 site for reading webnovelslop got DMCA'd, my gargantuan backlog completely obliterated.
Post your favorite webnovels. System and haremslop disallowed.

>>24848911
what site fell to the evil gooks?

>>24848829
Because harpyfag genuinely enjoys what he writes, he doesn't worry about muh stats or muh meta. He just does and people like that. You probably come off as a tryhard and that's why you're struggling

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>>24848914
Novelhitam. Had hundreds, probably thousands of top novels.
Do you have a recommendation as to an alternate site to go to? Every other site that I've seen has a sparse selection or only keeps stuff like low quality fanfiction.
Requiemtls used to be good as well but it too got DMCA'd and never really recovered.

>>24848921
Harpyfag? As in, writing a story with harpies in it?
Link?

>>24848929
You know its normal to check what messages an anon responds to so you don't have to make pointless questions right?
>>24848776
This story has harpies on it

>RR added dungeon core tag
nice. hopefully this helps revive the genre

>>24848965
Does this mean I can finally filter out dungeon diving stories from dungeon core stories?

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>>24848969
yeah

>>24848929
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/128737/the-wheel-and-the-wing

>>24848933
The man can't sauce well, what can you say?

>Check the changes to tags
>RR separates Dungeon tag into dungeon core and dungeon crawler
>Didn't separate Portal fantasy from Isekai slop
WHY

>>24849009
one step at a time
would be a good change though
make a suggestion on the forums

>>24849014
>make a suggestion on the forums
I don't have an account
>inb4 just make one
No

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>>24848999
reading it now...I wonder what the author's political views are

>>24849009
just check if it has the "local protagonist" tag I guess

are there any WNs where the main focus is on survival?

ie. MC gets isekai’d to a fantasy world and instead of powerleveling and getting involved in world-spanning plots, fucks off/gets exiled/appears in the wilderness and has to primitive survival their way back to a harsh yet relatively comfortable standard of living.

>>24849117
If they exist I haven't seen any. Even things like the Extra's Academy Survival Guide aren't actually about survival.

>>24849117
Yes, there are lots and they suck. Survival is a weak motivation in writing and gets stale fast.

>>24849117
So I'm a spider, so what? At least half of it
The Otome Heroine's Fight for Survival

>>24849120
hard disagree
it's a common theme throughout pulp for a reason

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>>24849117
A web novel that's actually about survival would never work. People read web novels only for harems, comedies of misunderstanding, and self-insert power fantasies: in other words whatever gives dopamine the fastest. They'd never enjoy something like pic rel, or the chapters describing the whalehunting life in Moby Dick, or Lord of the Flies (haven't read that one myself)

>>24849131
And pulp is synonymous with trash for a reason

>>24849117
I'm writing a portal fantasy where a wagie gets stuck on the other world and for the first half of it, the MC main goal is to survive. After that, using all the weapons, allies and resources he managed to gather he decides to join a group of terrorist on a suicide mission to attack the tower where a bunch of aristocrats live, since they're the only ones with a way back home. Does that count?

>>24849135
>Lord of the Flies (haven't read that one myself)
Well, you should, since it's just the kind of slop you see on RR

>>24849135
it is strange to me, personally, that no one has tried writing a WN version of Hatchet, given how easily it is to plot from chapter to chapter, the diverse conflicts that can be used, the sense of progression other than a tangible increase in power from seeing the MC struggle to survive to makinv a good homestead.

a wilderness survival plot can be easily adapted to the needs of a serial, though that might be my personal wilderness survival autism leaking through.

>>24849141
>He says this on a RoyalSlop thread of all places

>>24849147
We were arguing about survival being a good motivation and not "is there shit on RR" could you please try to keep up grandpa?

>>24849141
>/wng/ - Web Novel General

>>24849135
lord of the flies is a satire of british adventure pulps
>They'd never enjoy something like pic rel
literally jack london's entire career
there is so much survival pulp and pulp readers are just pre modern sloppers
as a slop reader, I've loved the aspects of stories that are about survival in a fantasy world. thing is that webnovels often have the survival be a step in the protagonist's progression fantasy
>People read web novels only for harems, comedies of misunderstanding, and self-insert power fantasies: in other words whatever gives dopamine the fastest
man fuck off with this reductionist shit. evidently not true if you read webnovels at all

>>24849161
I enjoy web novels too, but let's not pretend it's anything more than just pure dopamine chasing. I have yet to come across a web novel that doesn't use at least one of those tropes, if not multiple.
If I want to read something meaningful or with real literary value I read a real book, if I want dopamine I read a web novel, simple as

>>24849165
Reverend insanity

>>24849161
>pulp readers are just pre modern sloppers
TRVKE
You have to remember that, for the average zoomzoom here, pulp is basically Lovecraft, CAS and REH. They forget pulp was synonymous with cheap power fantasies, smut, horrorslop and gratuitous violence. Those three authors are remembered because they were the exception.

>>24849166
reverend insanity is literally all three (the harem is kind of a joke but it's no coincidence that the main character's only real male ally, TBYS, was killed off while the rest are still alive)

>newcutie is giving attention to the spammer that got the general nuked

>>24849145
write it
I'd read the out of bushcraft tism and survivalist brutality. if it were in a fantasy setting

Sky Pride's last few chapters have been something...

>>24849161
Pulp readers are weird sweaty uncs, a whole different breed from the web novel zoomers with completely different tastes

>>24849183
this nigga fell out of a coconut tree

fuck it, im not creative enough to make a full world, im going back to writing fanfiction

>>24849196
literally just make things up on the fly

>>24849170
Ri is probably the only web novel out there where multiple female side characters exist but do not form a harem (or even have any kind of attraction towards the mc, shang xin ci and the mermaid don't count because they are integral to the story), only lady white rabbit had some affection towards fang yuan (she was quickly killed off).
But most importantly RI is meaningful and with real literary value.

>>24849183
Exact same breed just separated by few generations.

>>24849183
>completely different tastes
>both love power fantasy slop
>both love a 1 dimensional badass edgy protag
>both love harem slop
>both love hype and aura moments
Looks like the same shit to me.

>>24849207
>But most importantly RI is meaningful and with real literary value.
lmao half the novel is laughing at idiots getting face-slapped by fang yuan, the other half is boring crafting filler. it has as much "real literary value" as the three little pigs, if not less
don't get me wrong it's fun and all (except for the many filler arcs) but i think you're taking it too seriously

>>24848375
Hello, Tina-chad. How are you doing?
>>24848681
Read if, you hack.

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I'll only tell you this once, but the chinese hoard all the meaningful and profound web lit on Ao3. The divide is very pronounced between longform serials as one is written for passion and the other for profit.
I read longform web slop because I enjoy turning my brain off and sinking days into a world or work, as well as the fact that a competitive literature market means that they have to come up with interesting premises or hooks, but if I want to read something that'll make me dig in to each paragraph in appreciation before staring up at the ceiling afterwards for an extended period of time once done, I'll go on Ao3 and turn a browser translator on.
There are good longform chinese web literature, but they're very rare. I can think of like maybe four max off the top of my head.
The Koreans only make slop, I haven't really seen them capable of the self-introspection necessary to create a work of quality.

>>24849196
Focus on characters and neglect worldbuilding, worked for Konosuba.

>>24849233
you might be right but I really have a hard time taking the opinion of an in-browser MTL chinese fanfiction reader seriously

>>24849233
>The Koreans only make slop, I haven't really seen them capable of the self-introspection necessary to create a work of quality.
Read Regressor's Tale of Cultivation.

>>24849227
Crafting was fun but I really enjoyed the magic system. The gu is an excelent magic system however other than gu there were other things like the exploration of various paths, the wisdom path in particular was a joy to read about.
Back to literary value. What determines if a literary work has literary value? Being a Westerner I have never encountered anyone driven and ambitious like Fang Yuan in fiction or in real life. His way of thinking is the real value. Maybe for the /wg/ fags countless pages of purple prose is the value.

>>24849272
I'm 200 chapters into it and idk feels pretty sloppy to me, also, the translation can be real awkward at times since so many people contributed towards it.

>>24849278
Just keep going, it becomes exponentially more kino once the cultivation arcs begin.

>>24849273
...you think the story has literary value because the protagonist is cool?

>>24849284
*WHAT* cultivation arc, I'm 200 chapters in this dude has been cultivating for the last 150, the yuan li arc was actually surprisingly good but outside of the mad lord & seo hweol the bright cold realm is really not interesting so far.

>>24849273
>His way of thinking is the real value.
lol, lmao even.

>>24849285
>protagonist is cool
Is that all you got from RI?

>>24849307
>it's the retard who can't read or follow a chain of conversation baiting chain replies again
kys

>>24849291
You're right I forgot how fast paced RToC is. But regardless, the Seo Hweol mystery and Thunder Sect arc are the high points which you can look forward to. Especially Seo Hweol, legitimately one of the best and scariest antagonists I've ever encountered in a light novel.

>>24849316
Seo Hweol is really intriguing but the Thunder Sect so far is underwhelming, now that they fixed Jeon's stuff its more interesting but we'll see.

>>24849314
lol

>>24849272
I'll check it out.
>>24849260
It's a holy land that requires sacrifice to reach

To mourn novelhitam's passing, I'll dump some decent gookslop for the ignorant masses

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/became-a-failed-experimental-subject/
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/i-became-the-abandoned-character/
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/surviving-among-the-entities/
https://wetriedtls.com/series/im-an-infinite-regressor-but-ive-got-stories-to-tell/chapter-7
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/no-to-being-the-suffering-heroine/
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-narrow-eyed-villain-of-the-demon-academy/
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/i-come-from-the-abyss-to-save-humanity-today/https://fucknovelpia.com/story/the-hero-is-trapped-in-villain-prison/

>>24849326
That infinite regressor one was real interesting but holy shit does it take forever to get anywhere

>>24849328
The SoL aspect is the main appeal of the story

>>24849326
Only one of those I've read is
>https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-narrow-eyed-villain-of-the-demon-academy/
but it was ass so I'm going to assume the rest of the novels you sent are ass (looks like it from their synopses anyways)

>>24849336
The point is to pass the time comfortably. It's gookslop, they're all ass. Unless you're positing that the koreans are capable of making something other than ass, in which case I'd like you to post an example so that I could laugh at you.

>>24849342
It doesn't pass the time comfortably if it's boring as heck and literally just tropes with nothing else, like NEVDA
Here are some Korean novels that are actually fun to read.
>Regressor Instruction Manual
>Omniscient First Person's Viewpoint (not Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint, that is probably the most overrated novel of all time, you can't even call it mediocre)
>Isaac
>The Emperor has returned
>This Bastard is Too Competent

>>24849369
I'll never stop shilling A Villain's Will to Survive, it's a masterpiece.

>>24849369
>Regressor Instruction Manual
>Literally just a checklist of >>24849135
Pfft ahahahaha- hahahahahaHAHAhahaha, thanks anon.
>>24849371
The pacing was way too fucked and plot undeveloped for me to call it good with a clear conscience, but I will cede that it did genuinely have some beautiful moments, and the ending bit with the afterlife was moving.

Any one still giving feedback? I'm working on my Overlord clone, and I'm really just trying to figure out the first three chapters, though I'm the least confident in the second one rn.

https://pastebin.com/aLFAJ2u3

>>24849393
It breaks my heart for a slopper to degrade himself like that...

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>>24849196
Just write fanfiction with the serial numbers filed off and combining multiple IPs

>>24849393
>overlord clone
Ok, I am interested

>she
Stopped reading there.

>>24849393
>I'm working on my Overlord clone
Guy goes to a jousting tournament riding a donkey and wearing rags and an armor of cardboard. A vagabond sitting by the road asks, my son, have you ever seen a man ride? No sir, he says. But I can't be the worst out there, can I? I just want to try. Son, you are dressed in a skirt. They will call you a woman out there. The guy, now upset, snorts and whips his donkey. But I'm still going, sir! Well, best of luck to you.

>>24849433
Terrible. Read the spellmonger series, the author got the middle ages kingdom vibe just right. It's not a webnovel and series sucks in many ways but the time setting, customs, worldbuilding feels like it would web novel format perfectly.

>>24849393
>The devil’s eyes shot open when she heard the sound.
Alright, sure.
>Then blankets flew from her bed, carried by a gust of wind.
This is bad. It's bad even by itself, but in the broader context it's even worse because you then go on to emphasize she doesn't move a muscle for several decades (maybe).

>>24847812
>ctrl + f —
>57 matches
That's a bit much. I gave you a 1 star review.

>>24849326
>novelhitam
what happened? last I saw was the message that the site owner couldn't keep himself afloat

>>24849393
i'll give it a read in a bit

>>24848965
>>24848969
This was such a needed change. I can't believe they waited this long to do it. I figure you coresloppers felt the same as us crawlsloppers, which is to say, frustrated to all hell, looking for the grape candy and getting a handful of licorice, every damned time. Now, we can segregate and be happy in our separate equalities.

>>24849227
Three little pigs taught a valuable lesson about the importance of investing in your own safety and comfort. Those who pat themselves on the back for choosing shitty housing because the materials were cheap and the labor was easy will inevitably find themselves dependent on the mercy of those who chose more wisely.
Reverend Insanity teaches the importance of living like one of those blood-drinking pederasts who treat the 48 Laws of Power as a holy scripture; it could only be compared to the three little pigs if straw pig murdered his older brothers for their share of the inheritance and dressed up as a chick to get sodomized by the big bad wolf in the hopes of taking half his shit in the divorce.
Have some respect for the classics, brother.

>>24849393
>Overlord clone
Call it what it is, anon. Was Overlord really what prompted this?

>>24849733
Your problem hasn't exactly been solved, because 99% of dungeon core stories are completed or dropped, the tag defaults to dungeon crawler, and the author isn't going to change it.

Retard who deleted his first chapter accidentally the other day here, I finally got over myself to rewrite it and I don't think it's as good, but I fucking saved it properly this time and I can finally get started on writathon!
The creative juices were flowing good today: I got the first chapter written and the rough outline for the next five chapters ready to go, so I'll try to keep going on chapter two while I wait for the fiction to get approved.
My cover is blatant AI-slop but it's a step up from last time, when I launched without a cover at all...

>>24849810
use git

>>24849433
>>24849432
>>24849395
>>24849781
Literally just meant to communicate it was about someone being sent to their favorite mmo, since everything with that plotline gets called an overlord clone regardless if the content.
>>24849468
>>24849684
Thanks. I was trying to communicate that the blankets flew off from her doing random magic bullshit, so if you have any ideas how it could be clearer let me know

>>24849273
> Being a Westerner I have never encountered anyone driven and ambitious like Fang Yuan in fiction or in real life
Anons here are lazy neets. They can't imagine having a goal and applying themselves towards it. They can't even muster up the willpower to write bottom of the barrel litrpg webslop. Of course they wouldn't understand a character that pursues a goal at all costs, to himself and to others.

>I had once screamed, gradually, I lost my voice.
>I had once cried, gradually, I lost my tears.
>I had once grieved, gradually, I became able to withstand everything.
>I had once rejoiced, gradually, I became unmoved by the world.
>And now!
>All I have left is an expressionless face, my gaze is as tough as a monolith, only perseverance remains in my heart.
>This is my own, an insignificant character, Fang Yuan’s — Perseverance!

>>24849846
Can you claim to understand a character that pursues a goal at all costs, himself and other people included?

>>24849854
Yeah, obviously. Anyone who has ever willingly dedicated themselves to accomplishing any sort of goal can. The only people that can't are worthless neets that have never tried a day in their life. Hence why harem/isekai/cheat/system shit is so popular among that crowd.

>>24849814
Good idea, except I'm retarded.
Best I can do is saving in multiple folders and drives.

The new RR tags are great by the way, I'm gonna update my first fiction with them too.

The message of any story will go over at least 50% of readers' heads. Doesn't matter if it's The Boy Who Cried Wolf, they'll still find a way to be retarded about it.
There are people who unironically believe that Moby Dick is just about a guy hunting a whale with no deeper meaning.

>>24849861
No, you can’t because you haven’t given up friendships in pursuit of a goal, have not given up loved ones in pursuit of a goal, and have not harmed yourself to the point where your body moves yet your mind is absent. How can you claim to understand Fang Yuan’s mindset without pushing yourself to such extremes?

>>24849870
What is the DEEEEP meaning of Moby Dick?

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>>24849887
>the main character has to be LITERALLY ME or I don't get it
Autists lack theory of mind. They have no innate ability to understand that others have mindsets separate from their own.

This is why all the main characters in the aforementioned harem/isekai/cheat/system shit sloppas are neets. Jobless, worthless neets that somehow become hyper competent and successful with no work or effort after randomly getting reincarnated or something.

>>24849854
I read RI so I have a better understanding of such character compared to those people who have not read RI.