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where are all the contemporary conservative philosophers?
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that you think they could survive in this academic climate is beyond me.
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>>24847231
Usually Catholic dudes.

That said, there is a lot of discrimination against conservatives

In Yale, the Philosophy Department once tried to hire a black evangelical candidate. Who believed the traditional Christian morality that says sodomy and sex out of wedlock to be immoral. Students found out about this and made a cancellation campaign against him. Yale decided to not hire him.

I have seen a philosopher defending the cancelation campaign arguing that "a Christian believing in this means he is not philosophicaly sound". Which is bullshit by someone who doesn't understand Christian morality.
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>>24847231
They ascended into heaven during the rapture, leaving us behind to squabble over the ruins of fallen man. It's over.
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>>24847231
Here.
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>>24847254
When you say conservatives, do you really mean paleoconservatives? I ask because Rashid Khalidi retired from Columbia University recently since his career as an academic was being threatened for lecturing on the Palestine-Israel conflict.
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>>24847254
Yale and Harvard = Jewish American elite with ethnic nepotism and control of entire world. Pic related.
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>>24847254
>Students found out about this and made a cancellation campaign against him. Yale decided to not hire him.
Based students. Conservaturds and religitards have no place in an educated and enlightened society and must always be exposed and humiliated.
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>>24847254
Should we use the same heuristic here that conservatives use for poor salvadorean migrants?
Why bring your alien value system somewhere you're not wanted, where you'll spend all your time whining about discrimination?"
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>>24847311
>we live in an educated and enlightened society

Atheists actually believe this.
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>>24847311
>>24847344
I mean, this is an answer to "why there are few conservatives in philosophy departments". If you think this kind of discrimination is good or bad, it is up to you.
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>>24847311
>atheist libtard
You have lost. I'm beyond being a MAGAtard in 2025 but both Atheism and Liberalism are completely beaten and dead
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There are lots of contemporary conservative philosophers. However to a lot of people "conservative" just means "complains about gays and trannies"
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what kind of retarded thread is this and why is heidegger here?
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>>24847231
The modern right is anti-intellectual and appeals purely to instincts, not even realized emotion, let alone rationality.
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>>24847390
>t. "her penis"
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>>24847401
>t. Doomer Chudley
I'll file that under "Shit I Never Said"
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>>24847390
"The modern right is anti-intellectual."

All left-right politics is anti-intellectual, silly golem. What could someone like you possibly know about the intellect?
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>>24847359
bullshit
Name a single philosopher except agamben, who opposed lockdowns and vax.
>inb4 current affairs and politics are too vulgar for philosophy
didn't seem the case for the ones who supported it actively
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>>24847390
>The modern right is anti-intellectual
it's even worse, they actually think people like Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin and BAP are serious intellectuals
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>>24847401
>The modern right appeals to base instincts
>Nuh-uh! Penis penis penis poopy nigger!
Bravo
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>>24847421
Antivax is postmodern liberal individualism
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>>24847422
Nobody thinks that. You are as delusional as you claim your imaginary enemies to be.
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>>24847421
>lockdowns and vax
Don't really see what that has to do with conservatism. The fact you cited a left-wing postmodernist as an opponent only solidifies my opinion that rabid anti-lockdown and anti-vax hysteria (note: not reasoned, measured criticism of it) is the kind of shit we would expect from Foucauldians in the 1970s. The fact it is "right-wing" in 2020 is completely accidental. Most of these people were discontented hippies. I think performing your civic duty for the sake of society at large is an ethically conservative action.
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>>24847231
Isnt trump (or jd vance idk) being advised by one
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>>24847413
>>24847424
>t. "her penis"
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>>24847231
they sort of gave up on all cultural and nonphysical matters at around the 60's. Leftists have been unopposed since then, bit of a problem since not dealing with the physical, falsifiable reality leads a man to go delusionally crazy. the circle jerk that comes from having no pushback and not being able to comprehend that people could not think your way is as responsible for all their crazy shit as their own state bureaucracy worship.
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>>24847401
>>24847488
>chud just can't stop thinking about trannies
many such cases
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>>24847231
On twitter doing transvestigations.
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>>24847311
This. There's a reason why the term is "liberal arts" and not "conservative arts". Conservatism has no place in academia. Academia it's all about being open to new ideas.
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>>24847512
>t."her penis"
Lol
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>>24847401
>>24847488
>>24847550
The meme that ended the left.
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>>24847545
Conservatives be like "HURR DURR LIBERAL ARTS CAN BE CONSERVATIVE TOO!"
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>>24847431
the flu was bullshit and so were the vaccines. Only very fat and very old ppl suffered from it measurably. Consevatism would oppose pharmaindustrial complex, just like it opposed MIC.
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>>24847231
There aren't any, because the western political right wing at the moment is completely fucking retarded, and as a conservative, I hope it violently explodes, burns to the ground and burns the current crop of right wing retards to a crisp. Seriously, fuck these losers, I hope this never ever happens to my side of the political aisle ever again.
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Imagine looking at the current state of art/academia and thinking it's a flex that the ideology into which you've indoctrinated yourself is its genesis, lol.
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>>24847231
1: There likely are conservative philosophers out there who are working, their work is just likely not well known or widely published. They may also not necessarily be “philosophers” but instead are working in theology departments or other fields which have overlaps in philosophy.
2: Current academia is still insistent mostly only ideological conformity, so at major universities (and in the Ivy League) failure to toe the line and conform will lead to exile from those establishments.
3: Many conservative leaning people are pragmatists in the United States; their concerns are less with culture, tradition, and moral value and are more so concerned with preserving material well being. This means they ignore philosophy as a career but will engage in it privately as a subject.

Americanism, broadly, is entirely materialistic. Conservatism is concerned chiefly with gaining resources for the “capable” so that they can produce more goods for the many. While progressives (so called) are concerned chiefly with the distribution of all resources upon whatever line they determine to be in the social interest. The “way of life” of each side politically is identical. Each wants material comfort for minimal work and those are really the major terms they first define as their way of life.
>>24847502
Asking from a personal perspective, is there a way for more people to engage in physical falsifiable realities on a regular basis today? I agree with you that an overactive abstract intellect makes people totally nonsensical, but it seems like it’s one of the few outlets left for individuals to be free or express themselves. For example a young adult man in previous generations, would have had a family and a home, things that were real present and needed constant attention and activity to be sure they were maintained and cared for. A lot of the maintenance (of the home especially) would require physical labor and activity. Work also used to require much more physical labor, and less communication in the abstract. As these things are slowly eroding away, where should individuals find these outlets in ways that are affordable?
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>>24847368
No one reads
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>>24847368
Lefty/pol/ shitting up the board and getting away with it because /lit/ is infested with normie libtards.
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>>24847231
Land, Dugin, and Benoist have all put out great work lately, they're just rejected by the academic establishment in favor of whatever post-Marxist slop is popular this week. Sloterdijk is great too, but he's still managed to maintain notoriety despite Habermas's accusations. The real question is where are all the capital-c Conservative authors, it seems rare to find a philosopher who actively defends the sort of classical liberalism that mainstream conservatism claims to uphold.
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>>24847757
/lit/ has always had a leftist contingent. That's what one would expect, intellectuals tend to be left-leaning. You should go back to /r/The_Donald, we think you guys are retards, and the philosophers you like (Land, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Plato, Evola) are all complete fucking retards just like you.
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>>24847636
>is there a way for more people to engage in physical falsifiable realities on a regular basis today?
Idealy you'd simulate old aristocratic activities as well? Fight clubs/martial arts, hiking, equestrianship, sailing and low tech hunting.
You need to have things where human made systems and whims arn't the be all end all, the personal knowledge that the natural world can just throw shit at you and at best you can prepare a little to endure better. Knowledge that you will get hit, and it will hurt.
Old aristocratic traditions like hunting, wrestling, falconry and riding where there to teach them how to deal with temperamental animals that crowds of people can be, to be sporting, observant, steady and strong.
Then you'd have to put some form of reward structure for not being entirely reliant on public opinion, the dueling cultures of old where built to support personal honor, insults between peers demand blood or satisfaction, anyone who doesn't cant be trusted to keep to the truth. Peasants had to deal with harsh weather and seasonal conditions they needed to prepare for.

In the long run mob mentality is the real thing you have to avoid, people are dumber than they normally are in crowds. I remember being in grade school and we rushed a hot air balloon that came down, I think I trampled a kids fingers, felt bad for an action I didn't consciously do, I think others dont and enjoy those moments. You have to encourage people to not fall for it. No one with power has an interest in doing so, but leftists are really bad at it, the endless repetition of a phrase that often isn't true is a common hallmark of their rallies, it becomes a reality to them. when a conservative rally happens the rolling chants only go for a few repeats until they get bored.
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>>24847633
I could tell there was something off about this person the moment I opened the thumbnail. Then I read the caption and my suspicions were confirmed. She/he/it looks like Ellen Page
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>>24847311
>educated and enlightened society
KEK
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>>24847862
FtMs all have either an uncanny valley wax figure look to them or weird fat deposits like a microwaved Stretch Armstrong doll. They're either dead eyed empty vessels or misshapen blobs composed of malformed lumps that seem to take on a lives of their own.
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>>24847344
you could but I would suggest first learning what heuristic means.
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>>24847911
Lol
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>>24847231
Sir Roger Scruton was the last one.
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>>24847848
>Plato
Relax
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People often pose this question begging for the answer of ">conservatives in academia lmao" but where are the lefty philosophers, either? Anything presented as hip and happening in mainstream academia is fundamentally still the same americanized french pomo shit that has been around for about half the century now, just presented in increasingly edgier and dumbed down ways.
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>>24847231
conservatives are literally just a type of liberal and we have no shortage of liberal philosophers. anyone who espouses socially illiberal beliefs gets fired, expelled and blacklisted, obviously
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>>24847545
>Academia it's all about being open to new ideas
how the fuck is an ideology that has existed for hundreds of years and only accepts arguments based on principles that have stayed the same for hundreds of years "open to new ideas"
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>>24847848
you're not leftists lmao, you libtards opposed the french revolution and the russian revolution because they heckin' killed sodomites
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>>24847848
>intellectual
>letting Donald Trump redditors live rent free
You can only pick 1 of those you dumb pseud.
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>>24847254
I've seen some allusion that university students seem to be behind a lot of atrocious acts. I can't open say that here, though because I live a stone's throw from Kent State. touchy subject here.
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>>24847390
all politics appeals to instincts. read Tuschman and Haidt.
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>>24847231
Conservatives are incapable of intellectual pursuits.
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>>24847428
not necessarily
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>>24847608
nobody says this. "liberal" arts doesn't mean it literally.
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>>24847636
>Americanism
pointless buzzword
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>>24849034
I shiggy diggy, faggot
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>>24847231
you don't philosophy to conserve the state of israel. there are plenty of reactionary philosophers now however
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I wish I could kill everyone who disagrees with me
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Libtards and the left expend a lot of energy defining their identity according to their political beliefs and a lot of time patting themselves on the back. What a bunch of midwits.
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Conservatives spend all their time in a futile attempt to make the clock run backwards and blaming the other for their various spiritual and sexual failimgs.
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>>24847254
>philosophy without epistemic humility
Now that's a fucking disaster waiting to happen.
I bet these people are Act-Utilitarians too.
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>>24849075
this
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>>24847231
first philosopher death to make me genuinely very sad
>where are they
conservatives are liberals still so they aren't significantly different from left wing ones
few are brave enough to deny the concept of rights and human dignity in toto like mactinyre. Charles taylor is the other one, hubert dreyfus might fall under this but he seems to mostly not talk about potlics apart from random asides in his book that point to "yeah my views might allow a hitler to take power".

The traditionalist/view of man as autochthonous seems like a view lots of people do point to, however one of the natural conclusions of that is universities as such and academia as it exists now is basically evil. (As earlier existentialists like nieztsche/heidegger pointed to)
The ones who go down that path ala heidegger come to the conclusion our culture situation is so fucking bad doing philosophy is basically pointless, so mcluhan & heidegger would recommend people do art instead and that's where you get people like Terrence Malick.

There's the whole Catholic philosophy sphere and they are doing some interesting stuff but I would largely say they aren't being very good "philosophers" they are more just refining very particular issues and avoiding difficult ones.
(how to respond to the machine, things like race/ethnicity, language, etc.)
There are some more obscure ones.
https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-about-Veritas-James-Madden/dp/1666754188
I quite liked this one, which was basically entirely ignored when it came out. He has gotten some popularity because he has made an effort to apply someone of the philosophy of mind stuff to ufology as a way to shill his ideas.

There is some "weird" thomists or people friendly with that like Benedict Ashley who do stuff like maintain the arguments that angels move planets and argue for it, and the semiotics people like john deely.

I really don't know very many people willing to push on the really sensitive subject

I think again largely the conclusion of all the great "right wing" (i woudl use traditionlist but evola fags ruined that just like, people who think mass-nation states are contrary to the good of humanity and we live in a techno-dsytopia) philosopehrs have largely come to the conclusion philosophy is basically dead because it requires a linguistic community rooted in a place and anyone "doing philosophy" now is basically just serving the machine, so what matters is making art and creating aesthetics that reconnect people to being and maybe help organize their lives rationally despite being a raped trauamtized deracinated bug.
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>>24849032
embarrassing post



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