Since learning Spanish and Portuguese largely to read Spanish and Portuguese scholastic text to be up to date with the revival of baroque scholastic tradition. I've noticed that when it comes to language proficiency there is a clear sign between fluency and non fluency so much so that there are grading patterns I.e. a1-c3 that are very thorough and rigorous and even language learning is a multi faceted activity. So much so even people with large vocabs still don't feel fluent when it comes to conversation.All this is to say that, how many people do we know or society deems to be intelligent but if we were able to translate their expertise in a science or humanities subject into a language they'd have more broken English than an Indian fresh off the boat or Chinese immigrant from some rural rice field. Language learning taught me that know and understanding are two complete different things and that it's easy to have the illusion of mastery until put into practise. But there isn't this same clear visual or audial fluency when it comes to other areas of knowledge where the masses can easily be fooled into thinking they're experts. Knowlwdge of key terms, jargon, ideas which if translated into a language it would be b1 tier at best and be equivalent of a guy learning random phrases in another language without deep knowledge of the grammar or syntax. But besides the doomer mentality I've also wondered if there are ways to learn true knowledge acquisition that isn't mere fact gathering but also teach to think in the subject you are learning on an intuitive level. So far I think just practise is the best and writing novel research is the best but I'm not sureAny of you guys got any ideas or good guides?
>>24848330Portuguese is cancer
>>24848473Literally only learning it to read books.
>>24848596Unless you need either of those languages for work, this is the ONLY thing that makes learning them worthwhile.
>>24848330why are you talking about experts when the common person's idea of an argument is ad homing someone as a nigger? when experts do that it's because y'all mice.
>>24848619>learning languages for wageslavingngmi
In much the same way that very few people ever learn to fully switch from thinking in english to thinking purely in spanish or vice versa, it is difficult to bring yourself to view a new intellectual field purely from the perspective of that field. The best answer would probably be to just voraciously read every paper and book you can find on the field. The rare case of someone ceasing to think at all in their native tongue usually comes from prolonged time spent completely immersed in the culture of the foreign tongue with little to no contact with their native language, so you should try to emulate this with your intellectual focus. Read everything you can from the field, both new and old.Realistically, however, this is a task which requires a level of obsession and commitment most aren't in a place to do. A much more humane approach towards better " knowledge acquisition that isn't mere fact gathering" would probably be to improve your ability to synthesize what you're learning with everything else you've learned. Carefully considering how the new information you're learning relates to every other piece of information you already know simultaneously forces you to reckon the weight and truth of the matter while also further embedding it into your memory. You can try to achieve this in a variety of ways, but a popular method of old would be a very well-organized commonplace book, and one of the more novel popular methods is using a program like obsidian to try to digitally recreate the experience of a commonplace book.
>>24849157>thinks work automatically means wagie cagiengmi
