What writers would I enjoy if Mishima is my favourite?
Bataille, Klossowski, Gombrowicz, Genet
What the hell do you guys see in this queer nip suicide case?
>>24870111Stendhal, Wagner, Nietzsche, Wilde, D'Annunzio, Mann, Bataille and ofc Japanese authors like Soseki and Akutagawa.
>>24870119most posters on /lit/ are homosexuals
>>24870119Yasunari Kawabata stated Mishima has extraordinary talent, and it is not just a Japanese talent, but a talent of world scale. It is the kind of genius that comes along perhaps once every 300 years.
Yasunari Kawabata, all others are mid.
>>24870119Gorgeous sentences and sincerity.
>>24870119It's the usual masculine nonsense/paired with aesthetics. Like OP's pic. In their brains it's "uuuoohu cool looking samurai dude!!"
>>24870111Fujo manga
>>24870119>>24870126Mishima is noticeably of the most hated authors on /lit/. Weird, I suppose it's due to political, non-literary reasons.
>>24870119this parasocial tabloid fag only googled someone's name and that's it. doesn't know how to interact with the world in other ways.people are into the books, feminine anon.
>>24870277Probably given he's fantastic.
>>24870118>>24870120Huysmans, Gide, Cocteau as well
>>24870447oh and also d'Aurevilly, L'Isle-Adam and Mirbeau
>>24870319https://voca.ro/1flwMClgGYnV
>>24870119He's one of the most interesting writers, maybe even artists of all time>raised under an extremely controlling grandma that wouldn't let him be out in the sun and play with the other kids>pale, frail and sick, almost died before he was even 6>wanted a hero's death yet lied to the doctor about how truly sick he was to avoid being drafted (this is debated, his brother says that most likely the doctor felt sorry for how frail and sickly he looked and decided to not send him to his doom) >fascinated with the concept of death from an early age>first ejaculation to pic related, would look at it for ours as a kid>wrote in secret as his dad thought writers were degenerate>probably gay yet still wanted to play the role of a typical husband and father which he did (the wife knew he had gay affairs but was okay with it, she just accepted it and ignored it)>adopted radical politics, possibly as a means to achieve an honorable death (debatable, he was definitely right wing but its debated how much of his radical views were honest or if they were part of the theater necessary for his death)>planned his death for at least a year (he wrote and adapted a short story called Patriotism that's pretty much a practice run, he even played the main character https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO-w-cn-pJM )I suggest reading a biography, there's just so much about him, so many internal contradiction and such an interesting view on death, art and life. His works are also so full of who he was as a person and even to this day people, especially in Japan, still don't know how to feel about himTo rightist, he's this giga masculine epic samurai dude, to left wing people, he was a crazy repressed gay fascist, but all of those really fail to capture who he wasAlso gotta recommend the Paul Shrader masterpiece film that adapts parts of his life and novels.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzaXtBr5210https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLLB0elriL0
>>24870277In my view, some people are dismissive of Mishima because he gets read by younger people, but I don't think this is fair. You wouldn't dismiss the enduring qualities of Kafka, for instance, simply because Metamorphosis gets read by the kids.
>>24870111Mishima, I bet.
>>24870111I remember reading somewhere that one of Mishimas favourite writers was Thomas Mann
>>24870221Masculinity and aesthetics are very important. What's your issue with each?
>>24870111Do we know what movies Mishima liked? Did he enjoy Kurosawa movies?
>>24871076what biography would you recommend?
>>24872753He liked Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising
>>24870111Might sound like a non sequitur but give D.H. Lawrence a shot, there's a similar unnerving doomed intensity to both.>>24870119Would you rather spend your reading time with the same normalfags you have to deal with everywhere else, or with a personality?>>24871076He was undeniably an interesting man. I just wish the books were on the level of the life. I say this having read at least four; all of them were enjoyable but deeply flawed and ultimately somewhat frustrating. I'll probably go back for more just in case it clicks or there's something really breathtaking I've missed, but when I see people like >>24870130say he was one of the all-time geniuses of the written word I suspect they're taken in by the aesthetic and personal side of the matter rather than the works themselves. They're worth a read but every one of them has its flaws.
>>24870111Gay erotica
>>24872857>>24872857There's a whole book which comprises of his short commentaries on his and other authors style, 戦後とは何か. He spoke sbout his inspirations and his style-of-choice too. I don't know if there's an English translation, but for whatever flaws you might find in his work, the answer for it might lies in this book.
>>24872857>I say this having read at least fourWhich ones? I found that the ones this board praises the most are the worst
>>24872879>The Temple of the Golden Pavilion>The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea>Patriotism>Confessions of a MaskI enjoyed COAM the most, due to personal relevance mostly, but still wished it was a little better. The first half was great though, and if he's got more like that in him I'll happily try it out.Do you have a favorite I didn't list?
>>24873037>I enjoyed COAM the mostDefinitely check out forbidden colorsIt also happens to be the one that best lays out his vision of the worldIf that doesn't do it for you either I'd say he probably just isn't your bag, but I will also recommend ongsku and after the anquet. Short and sweet
>>24872794pic related is like the go toNathan lived in Japan and translated a couple of his works, Mishima really liked him as a translator and they were close for period of at least 2 years there's a few others but if you read only one, than this one is the go to>>24872857> I suspect they're taken in by the aesthetic and personal side of the matter rather than the works themselves.I admit this is the case with me. I learned about Mishima before reading his work and used his work to learn more about him cause so many of his works are full of who he was as a person. I'm not saying the works don't stand on their own merits but yeah.
Reminder that Mishima was looking for BWC while in America
I recently put together a new translation of the Paul Schrader biopic that actually follows what the actors are saying and doesn't diverge into completely different topics for entire scenes at a time. Fine-tuning the subtitles timings has been a fucker but I expect it to be on Soulseek in a few days now.
>>24874573Oh and I'll post it on /film/ too
>>24874573Never watched the film so I dunno what you're talking about
>>24870111Nietzsche
>>24874722nice dubs and recc>>24870111Try d'Annunzio
>>24872753Yesterday I watched this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVvx9jQ5FcM where Nakadai claims he liked The Face of Another.
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>>24870119he's literally me
>>24873082>Definitely check out forbidden colorsI will; thanks anon.
