>Society tries preventing worthless people from killing themselves>Society keeps making worthless people's lives miserable and drives them to suicide or slaveryIf we as a society support the freedom of the individual Why don't we just give the option to worthless people to just exit out peacefully? It would literally make the world a better place>But that's heckin' immoral! They still have self awarenessBeing self aware of your circumstances doesn't increase your worth as a person>Durrr but then the majority of people like (you) will kill themselves and we won't have bottom wagie slaves to sustain our hierarchy, take that you frickin' hateful chud!Fine i'll bite, If you believe in morality doesn't that sound kind of evil to maintain a hierarchy? To have someone else live a life of suffering and neglect just because they won't compromise power and freedom, just because they don't uphold the same pretentious values that act as programming for the collective structure?What are some philosophers who speak of this? and why exactly do we keep getting the same kneejerk reaction of "NOOOOOOO THAT'S HECKIN' EVIL WE JUST VIBIN' THO"
First off sex with Christie from DoA and secondly the issue arises when the question of who determines worth comes into play>le everyone heckin determines their own worth :)Well that's just now
>>24929169What is the point of sex if you have a small penis and shit stamina, Schopenhauer puts it simply; it's just a fading memory
>>24929168>Why don't we just give the option to worthless people to just exit out peacefully?because you've improperly valued them, and even if they were truly worthless, intelligence is correlated with suicidal tendencies: you would actually end up killing off people who encounter harship or perform self criticism
>>24929222Well then just do anything to overcome these, if one cannot do that then what worth does their life have?
>>24929168It makes people uncomfortable think of death and suicide as anything other than tragic. Because then they would have to admit that their own death won't be a world shattering tragedy.>>24929222>intelligence is correlated with suicidal tendenciesThen maybe it's a regressive trait and it would benefit us to weed it out. Like The Last Messiah and the horns of the Irish Elk.
>>24929275Your death won't be but mine will be
>>24929168Because this doesn't make any sense. That is how things go forward, if everyone simply gave up whenever they are in a terrible spot, a lot of great things wouldn't exist in the first place. Necessity is the mother of invention. It is hard to determine the 'worth' of someone before they die, and if someone who is a 'waste of oxygen' ends actually being it instead of potentially being something great. This should be obvious to anyone who has some basic understanding of Aristotle.
>>24929174sex is how babby is formed
They're not completely useless.
>>24929864This
>>24929168>bottom wagie slavesDepends, are those jobs bullshit jobs? Then yeah, I don't see a reason to torment people, pay them NEETbux instead.But a lot of bottom wagie jobs are needed, which means these people are getting fucked over.
>>24931470>>24929864big if true
>>24929174Cool cope. Almost as sad as when unathletic losers tell on themselves by being snobbish about sports.
>>24929168>we as a society
>>24929168No people are worthless. Is there anyone in a hunter-gatherer tribe that does not pull their weight?Even if the miserable, poor, and homeless were totally incompetent and unable to meaningfully contribute anything, they would still have worth as a societal tool. They are both a warning and a reward for all those above them in the hierarchy.Wagies would not be nearly as incentivized to work as hard as they do without the threat of homelessness. Moreover, if they were truly at the bottom rung of society, they would be much more inclined towards anti-social practices. To be invested in society, you must have something to lose. The bulk of your underclass cannot truly be at the bottom rung.
>>24929168>Society keeps making worthless people's lives miserable and drives them to suicide or slaveryI fail to see how this is so. Can you show how this is the case?
>>24929168Devaluing all human life will end up with proles realizing they can just fucking rape and kill people. That's bad btw.
>>24934608Brown people already do that.
You can already kill yourself. Nobody's going to put you in prison for committing suicide>but i want someone to do it for me
>>24933663Fuck off sportsfag you are a slave to the demiurge's designIn an ideal world i could build my own body without tearing my muscles
>>24934632What if I can't do it myself? It hurts
>>24934604What else can be done? Self improvement is a shitty scam for retards to bang the head against the wall, it's meaningless
>>24929168>believing in "worth">believing you're indebted to society>believing in a "better place"
Canada did this and it is very unpopular.
>>24929168>Why don't we just give the option to worthless people to just exit out peacefully?We would if such people existed.>It would literally make the world a better placeSource: I guess>If you believe in morality doesn't that sound kind of evil to maintain a hierarchy? No. Hierarchy is inherent to reality.
>>24935013>i cant breed