>get a comment from a guy on patreon that he didn't like the last chapter
>was planning on ignoring it
>check the comments later
>he's deleted it and replaced it with something more positive
Victory?

>>24929796
Call him pussy

>>24929782
to the anon that made the patreon precepts, make a rentry of it and I'll include it next thread

anons how do you stop yourself from cursing 1-star review schizos for being indian, chinese, SEA, or SA?

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>>24929837
It was almost certainly an American zoomer on their phone. They are functionally ESL even though it's the only language they know.

>>24929782
>pic
Great way to get our thread deleted. Indeniable proof that the secondaries are bugmen readers

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>>24929877
>Indeniable

>>24929782
>pic and things like pic
Why yes, I love omniscient narrators, snarky systems, and quest givers that dictate what happens next in the story instead of having actual characters who make actual decisions
please write more of this

>>24929850
>39% chance
>almost certainly

Anybody else get their free author premium?
I'm finding it underwhelming. I thought there would be more detail, but there's not. I can't even see the accounts of who rates negatively.
I can see that my two 0.5 star rating assholes did so on chapters 1 and 2. Why? And then a 1.5 star on chapter 3. WHY??? Is being off meta such a crime?
I think I'm going to complain to the site moderation. There's no reason to rate 0.5 stars before chapter 3, or without giving a reason in a review backing up one's shitty wrong opinion, so that people who see the rating and check the review can see how salty the reviewer is.

On viewer retention I was surprised. Other than the first chapter drop, on both my fictions retention stayed fairly high. I don't know if this is normal, or if my first chapter successfully signposted to readers that they would or would not like what was coming up down the pipe. I'll take it as a sign that I'm doing something right, for now.

>>24930067
>I can see that my two 0.5 star rating assholes did so on chapters 1 and 2. Why? And then a 1.5 star on chapter 3. WHY??? Is being off meta such a crime?
Blurb didn't convey your offmeta-ness enough to scare them off and their hearts were broken when they discovered it was not merely space opera flavoring on top of opmc litrpg harem slop

>>24930067
>I can't even see the accounts of who rates negatively.
Lol that would be an absolutely insane feature to add
>Other than the first chapter drop, on both my fictions retention stayed fairly high.
I think the impressively high retention stats I've seen screenshotted for some big authors keep 98 or even 99%+ per chapter. Not sure what the average is though

The per chapter retention stats and the which-chapter-are-you-getting-low-ratings-on are the useful pages from an actual analysis standpoint, tells you what chapters people are dropping your story on

>>24930067
>I can't even see the accounts of who rates negatively.
why the fuck would they let you see that lol, they'd just have negative raters harrassed into silence

>>24930067
this post is an excellent argument not to get premium
doing just fine not knowing anything other than my aggregate rating

>>24930067
can't you report chapter 1 ratings and get them removed?

Although saying that I rate on chapter 1 because I read on my kindle so I've no reason to open individual chapters in browser

How many chapters do you think a story has before the status quo needs to be established?

Was thinking about this because frenetic openings are usually quite good but I often find I get to a point with webnovels that have the equivalent of tutorials where I'm like "holy shit please introduce an actual character"

>>24930187
Personally I would want to at least know what is propelling the story before a status quo is established. Introduce some characters and give me the problem that propels the story forward. You can build the world as you go along.

>>24930187
I would say stories have about one arc to establish some sort of status quo. I need to understand what kind of story I'm reading. That status quo can even be "running from one disaster to the next with no brakes". But after the opening arc is finished, I need to know what I'm reading for the long term

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>>24930187
It will never happen!

>>24930187
You have one paragraph.

>>24929798
you're allowed to say faggot now

>>24929782
>Worth the candle
What the fuck
Amaryllis gets herself pregnant with a ritual to bring back a companion
Like how could the author think that's okay?
All this shit in the novels makes me legit angry, and i guess i'm masochistic enough to keep getting angry and still trying to find the perfect book that will not make me angry.

And i suppose that's not even the worst of it. Then there is Amaryllis manipulating her own soul to change herself.

Like why the fuck would i keep reading.

And once again i really liked the story until the author pulls out something fucking retarded. Something to make me incredibly mad.

And now i don't know what the fuck to do. I was so invested in the story but anytime i think that i will get over it and start reading again I just can't continue.

Fuck you man, why recommend me this shit. And why the fuck is the author such a sadist where he keeps dangling romance with Amaryllis but then does this shit. Is that good storytelling? Torturing the audience?

>>24930431
What kind of recs were you asking for exactly?

>>24930452
Basically progression fantasy with some emotional development.

This shit is fucked up.

>>24930461
He wrote it while depressed irl. It's actually a self-insert and the story is fundamentally anti-escapism.

>>24930468
I'm done with reading, it's all some disturbing fetishistic dogshit. Fuck people who read and fuck people who write.

>>24929782
Are web novels similar to light novels? I just finished making a comic only to be recommended these as apparently it's more financially stable. Is it true?

>>24930516
Web novels are serialized like those old pulp stories in magazines and newspapers.
Just posting a story online doesn't really have a term but Amazon has literally millions of them on KDP

>>24930461
I'm writing a story that's basically Spice and Wolf with adventurers but won't be ready to post till next year.

>>24930431
kek I was waiting for this response
I recommended WTC because I've seen you get mad at so many stories and wanted to see what happened with this one
because I honestly can get over most plot points in webfic even if I really hate those decisions (including many things you've mentioned but which I didn't drop the story over, just thought was odd) but WTC was one that actually made me drop it when there was one too many events like what you mentioned
seriously questionable story elements introduced out of nowhere, it's a Wales classic

>>24930580
This actually made me feel better so thanks.

I was having a lot of discussion in other communities about the questionable stuff i complained about before and usually i'm dismissed as a retard for thinking that lizardfucking is disgusting or the relationship in beneath the dragoneye moons is retarded so atleast i see that there are people who think the same way as me.

The worst of it was probably Honzuki no gekokujou where all the fans think Rozemyne being with Ferdinand is okay and wholesome and that he's and upstanding person.

You're kind of a prick for doing this but i'm not that mad after your post.

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>>24930596
based

>>24930596
>or the relationship in beneath the dragoneye moons is retarded
Based opinion

>The worst of it was probably Honzuki no gekokujou where all the fans think Rozemyne being with Ferdinand is okay and wholesome and that he's and upstanding person.
Half-based. Myne groomed Ferdie and it's not really okay. The whole relationship is wack but understandable coming from a middle-aged Japanese housewife and mother.

>>24930531
>Web novels are serialized like those old pulp stories in magazines and newspapers.
I'm working on something serialized too, but for comics you typically have to release something akin to a pilot for a TV show that's not serialized. I actually have quite a few chapters written down but it's in script format and English speakers aren't my dominant audience. I just barely entered the comic sphere only to be advised to enter a different one.

>>24930516
Light novels are almost entirely web novels that have been edited to be published as books but they're not really relevant to any career choice you make since they're a jap only pipeline

>>24930647
That's mostly true these days but originally they were magazine stories and then trad pubbed YA books with pictures.
Though the turnover for JP can be crazy. Literally a few months between being self-published on syosetu to a light novel and then a few more till a manga.

>>24930667
I know people throw the term around a lot but it really is a slop industry.
Genuinely hard to tell books apart sometimes since they're all so derivative. It's like if every "max level mage, a cosy crafting story" off of rising stars got a real publishing deal

>>24930667
>then trad pubbed YA books with pictures.
I'd be doing something like this, there are a lot of esoteric concepts that I find easier to illustrate rather than having a paragraph long detailed description, but I'm still not too familiar with this formatting or the interest in such a thing.

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>>24930671
It's only possible because all the grunts like manga artists and their assistants work shit hours for shit pay
It must be super comfy to be a Yakuza fatcat.

>>24930671
The ones that make it to America are typically slop but Japan shockingly values reading a lot. The industry seems to be doing better than comics over there and they are incredibly interested in genres like epic fantasy or historical fiction. I wish I was fluent in Japanese so I could read a lot of them.

>>24930718
You know most of the big ones got official translations these days, right?
They pick up a bunch of new licenses every few months. Seven Seas, Yen Press, J-Novel Club, etc.

>>24929782
Critique plz
https://novels2.com/novel/infierno-a-series-of-horror-stories-87998/ed-at-colonus-2657212

>>24930788
the fuck is that site
do you even get traffic on there?

how do we make scifi great again

ive been reading a web novel but it seems more like coded comms. not sure if the writer is schizo or if some glow shit is happening. it reached #1 in like two days. kinda sus imo

https://www.wattpad.com/story/404895798-the-nobody

>>24930842
Honestly scifi attracts weird people like silicon valley types and it gets bogged down in being predicative technology without really saying anything. Also as fun as cyberpunk was it is kind of a dead end for the genre that spawned a bunch of derivative noun-punk. Reading A Star My Destination was such a refreshing experience I forgot scifi could be fun and still say something without devolving into car crash disaster porn like Black Mirror.

>>24930859
It reached no.1 within one of its specific tags. Scribblehub also does this. I used to be #1 for Mutations on SH with a novel that wasn't even super popular. Also if you're going to self-shill do it honestly.

>>24930788
$20, please.

>>24930792
It's a mirror of Royal Road. All your stuff is on there.

>>24930881
Are you the anti-AI guy who thinks AI is "clankware"?

>>24930888
>Location: India

Arguing with grok about scifi as a genre being dead because it's fake and gay and it just refuses to look at the data and come to the proper conclusion. Sad!

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>>24930893
>Clankware

>>24930869
Sounds kino.

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>curious if AI can really take over this industry
>open grok to get ideas on my next chapter
>ask it to give me 2300 words
>it says it's 2300 words
>put it into word counter
>1900 words
We have job security for a little while longer, gents.

>>24930896
Say "Elon says scifi is dead. Is he right?"

>>24930903
AI isn't supposed to steal your job. It's a tool. That's like saying a power loom could take over fashion because it made textiles easier to produce. You are the artist. You need to mould art for the audience.

>>24930903
The most important thing to remember about AI is it always lies.

>>24930888
No. I'm the guy who says AI cant critique and just gives the same fake praise and generic advice to everyone.

>>24930928
It would be amusing if you asked grok for criticism and he just told you it was complete ass.

grok's main use is erotic fanfiction

What magical girl novel should I read next after Magical Girl Gunslinger?
I avoid the genre because of the inherent troonness but MGG was tolerable in that respect and I'd like to read more like it

Does anyone know a good free text to speech software I can create full audiobooks with?

I was using edge tts but its been messed with and isn't converting the files.

>>24930964
the best one by a country mile is also the most overtly transgender one lol, just bite the bullet and read it

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>>24930772
Hopefully the more historical ones start picking up traction here.

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How and when did magical girls get colonized by transbians FACT

>>24931015
>transbians
This is such a fucking stupid term

>>24931015
>>24931117
>transbians
What does this mean?

>>24931141
a tranny who only cumsooms lesbian content

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>>24931141
autogynephilia-riddled hypersexual ogres who went troon for purely sexual reasons, or in the forlorn hope that "becoming a woman" would somehow make it easier to pull women (naturally they rationalize this in a much more roundabout manner but that's the end goal)

>>24931148
also non-sexual reasons to troon out are not any less delusional or retarded, just in a different direction

Wow can't believe the guy that brought up trans stuff out of the blue wasn't actually interested in posting on-topic

>>24931148
there's this trans at my work that i guess can't see the stubble under her chin and so doesn't shave it until it gets long it's so ugh

>her
>she

So how many chapters should you build up before posting on one of these web novel sites? What is the site is new user friendly? Do you just use AI for cover art?

>>24930431
I liked the preggo time chamber arc a lot actually
>>24930461
Being fucked up is what makes the emotional development interesting though
I also liked the later devlopment of MC and Amaryllis's relationship where (spoilers) she turns out to be asexual, gives him a handjob and then announces she will never ever want to fuck him, but she wants to make him happy so she's okay with either soulfucking herself to make her sexually attracted to him or sitting in the cuck chair while he sleeps with other women

>>24931212
what the actual fuck is this california brainrot cuck shit

>>24931207
Ideally you want to have the entire novel done from start to finish. In reality it's up to your patience.

The grifter way is to not write more than like a month's worth of chapters so that by the end of your initial backlog dump if you didn't hit RS you can just bail.

>>24931207
>So how many chapters should you build up before posting on one of these web novel sites
daily uploads until u hit 20k words when u first start posting, then a month's worth of chapters for your Patreon (minimum), and a backlog after that.
obviously after uploaded the 20k words you go to your regular upload schedule.

>>24931214
it's a great novel if what you want is melodrama character moments taken to 11

>>24931207
just to be safe and have a comfortable buffer: 100k words with the first 50k dumped the first month

>>24931221
I don't because I'm not a woman.

>>24931214
oh yeah also by the time that offer happened they were already lawfully wedded husband and wife

i think at some point after where you stopped reading they get another party member who is an eternally 12 year old looking not-elf with the face of the friend's little sister from the pre-isekai world whom he groomed and slept with to cope with his depression after the car crash, leading to the destruction of that friendship

>>24931221
Just watch korean drama if you want that

>>24931231
I think novels are better than visual media for WTC's kind of angsty depressed self introspection though.

>>24930859
>>24930872
Nah at least scribblehub sorts by readers, and rare tags just have almost no fictions that actually tag it so for like mutations you really were just one of the most readers fictions for that tag

Wattpad is even funnier because the rankings are unironically random. One day you will be #1 in the tag and then the next you will be #2400. Happened to me
I think it's their idea of how to improve discoverability? So new fics can show up high on a tag list? No clue honestly

>>24931224
And Royal Road is the site that everyone posts these too?

>>24931207
If you don't even understand what sites web serials get posted to, your story doesn't belong on a web serial site
By all means still post it but you won't get any readers

>>24931249
I was going to just do a mindless pulp story. I know enough not to post literary fiction. I haven't written anything in years and felt this would be a good way to get back into it. I doubt I'll get readers. This is sort of a funsies thing.

>>24931207
If you take AI cover art *seriously*, its fine until you can one day arrive nd get real editor, covber artist, etc. Until then? Do this:
1. get used to one AI, I personally like Leonardo.
2. fine tune your text that generates your image
3. Free Leonardo AI, you can get so many images per day. I go back days on end, getting my 16 each day.
4. With a large pool of AI images that are "close" to what you want, go through and find your good ones. You can crop the image to get rid of anything AI screws up.
5. Once you have "the one" AI art. I use a free cover art designer website. The image and I go through fonts until I get what I think I like. I'll use the free cover site for days on end, doing and re-doing my cover until I get one I think is perfect.
6. the better you are with something like GIMP, the more options and saves you can get on otherwise good AI images.
7. you will always catch hell for AI cover art, but if you put out some effort you can get something passable until you're successful.

>>24931245
depends on your genres
RR is best for LITRPG, Progression, Xianxia/Cultivation with a mostly male reader base

>>24931153
>also non-sexual reasons to troon out are not any less delusional or retarded
Question. How can "adjusting" one's sexuality, *possibly* have a non-sexual reason. The whole ball of wax is sexual in nature.

>>24931250
Sounds good then, if you have realistic expectations that's fine. Just be aware that despite all of the people trying to invade various web spaces because it's the easiest form of publishing, what actually succeeds follow a pretty narrow set of criteria. Trad stuff simply does not do well on the internet, even trad pulp
Royalroad is the biggest scifi/fantasy serial site (though 95% is cultivation and litrpg). Wattpad is the biggest smut/romance site (though 95% is targeted toward 15 yo girls).

>>24931259
TINA creature detected

>>24931259
when i say "non-sexual" i mean "not motivated purely by fetishistic tittilation" as in the case of autogynephilia
that is to say being indoctrinated via munchausen's by proxy or suffering from actual dysphoria (which is to be treated not appeased)

>>24930842
>how do we make scifi great again
back in the day, most science fiction wasn't "cowbows and aliens". They were around 200 pages, called dime store novels. Weird, quirky odd science fiction novels abounded. Kind of sci fi's golden age in my book.

>>24931268
Not sure what you are talking about. Typically the golden age of scifi is stuff like Heinlein, Dick and other 60's/70's stuff. Before that it was literally Cowboys and Aliens space stuff like John Carter pulps.

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>>24930842
That's a good question, a very good question. I'm glad you asked it; it shows you are taking an interest in the work. Now if there are no other questions, the class is dismissed.

>>24930596
Lol I do think you're a little oversensitive but yeah WTC is the biggest offender out of all webfic for me. I had to deal with so many WTFS and just gave up eventually. Even if quality was very high
Real talk though, Wales is a good writer, which is why you liked WTC and got so mad at the weird shit he pulled (I assume)
Try reading This Used To Be About Dungeons. Wales-quality writing without any of the weird shit. Or at least nothing triggered me, you do seem very easily triggered. But I'm not baiting you this time
That said it's pretty slice-of-life. You read a bunch of TWI so I assume you're fine with that. Really enjoyed the characters and worldbuilding and general vibe

I'm a simple kinda guy. I like my isekai/reincarnation fiction to contain heteronormative themes. I like my protagonists morals to affect and be shaped by the world they encounter. And finally but most importantly they will partake in no fantasy race mixing whatsoever.

>>24931394
heteronormative and racist isn't the same thing

>>24931400
>Which is why they are 2 (two) separate points.
>>24931335
Wales biggest disappointment for me was Thresholder, such wasted potential with the selective power blocking on different worlds and that 'culture collective' world arc was just pages and pages pol-student their drivel.

>>24931207
You need to dump 20k words on day one to be eligible for RS, however many chapters that is, then one chapter a day, every day for at least a month to get presence on recent releases and hook readers. You can skip weekends, because I've personally found nobody reads or comments on Saturdays or Sundays and the views plummet. After the first month, it doesn't matter so much. Either you got on RS and blew up, or you probably never will. But I'd still recommend posting at least 3 times a week so those who followed won't forget you exist. The most important thing is that you can keep ahead and won't have to go on hiatus. It's a good idea to have at least a month of buffer in case you need to take days off. So that's about 50-60 chapters in total.

>>24931394
>be reborn in Midwest Earth
>decide not to fuck any elves, catgirls, mermaids...
See you at the lame and gay pride parade, hooman.

>>24931394
I don't know. Sometimes I feel similarly, but then again I would really like to dominate elf femboys. Too bad normalfags write lgbtq shit to appeal to annoying trans-karens instead of guys who like trap hentai occasionally.

Should I put a black sun on my cover? I think it looks cool and aligns with the Pagan themes of the story. But I'm almost certain it will trigger some retards.

>>24931763
I promise you, anon, absolutely no one will care

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>>24931763
how about a dark sun

>>24931770
What about the cover artist? If I credit him for the cover art, but then stick in a black sun ovrt his illustration people might get mad at him.

>>24931783
If this nonsense occurs, just own up to it. Or ask the artist if that terrifies you.

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>>24931783
Ask Grok what it thinks

>>24931783
Who are these "people"?

>>24931716
>Anon wants to fuck aliens whilst living in the Midwest.
It's sad you are not in the minority.
>>24931742
>T.twinkfucker
Yes anon, yes you are a seperate kind of degenerate.

>>24931794
The same people who think the ok hand gesture means white power, who have gotten people fired from their place of employment for making aforementioned "ok" sign in photos and videos.

The same people who think a Roman salute is a nazi salute. The same people who think Japan should stop putting swastikas on maps denoting the location of Buddhist temples.

>>24931802
Twinks are not the same thing as anime traps, normalfag.

>>24931815
they're both gay you homo

>>24931825
Yeah, sure. Anyway, too bad that we get globohomo-tier fagshit instead of either heteronormative anti-miscegenation fantasy or cute elf femboys.

>>24931862
Just admit you like penises, goddamn gaylord

>>24931885
You can like penises without being gay

>>24931885
There's nothing gay about sucking feminine penis

>>24931885
You sound agitated. Does talking about penises get you all hot and bothered?

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>great first couple chapters
>turns to shit as soon as it gets into actual magical girl stuff and action
wasted an afternoon award

>>24931904
>>24931910
>>24931919
The absolute state.

>>24930964
MGG is continuing later this month.

>>24932004
oh really? That's nice.
author is a massive faggot for going on hiatus before he reunited the two girls though, I would be seething if I'd waited years for that while he writes like 50 pages of infodump in a row talking about "lack of motivation."
I just need him to tie that knot and then I'll wait 5 years so I can get a nice 10 chapter buffer.

I don't understand the appeal of crafting-centric stories. They're just pulling materials and techniques out of their asses to make things that are convenient for that moment in time.

Consistent or not with the worldbuilding, there is no point where the reader can even work out how to make X or Y, or what the use material Z has before the author explicitly says it. The narration isn't going to say "there were arcenia roots, snapdragons and eyes of newt" and the reader is going to go all sleuth-like thinking "oh she can make a potion of strength if she mixes those together".

Crafting is the ultimate "tell don't show" type of story.

>>24930842
Start by bringing back the sex appeal.
40s - 60s: hot babes in tight space suits - people cared about scifi
70s: spaceships autism - nobody gave a shit about scifi
80s - 2000s: hot babes in skin tight leather and spiked armors - people cared about scifi
2010s - now: gay people in weird rubberly, fake leather costumes - nobody gives a shit about scifi, aside from whatever came out in the 90s.

>>24932118
You could say the same shit about magic systems. In both cases it's because of a lack of care on the authors part.
Brando-Sando writes internally consistent systems and it's provable because his most autistic readers can predict what's going to happen unlike with your random mats example.
If he can do it surely the erudite minds of /lit/ can manage it.

>>24932118
>The narration isn't going to say "there were arcenia roots, snapdragons and eyes of newt" and the reader is going to go all sleuth-like thinking "oh she can make a potion of strength if she mixes those together".

OSRS fag spotted

>>24932162
True, but I'd argue magic is, in some sense, a very simplified version of crafting in that regard, since the only reagent is mana or some metal or what have you, so the X + Y = Z equation is more predictable and therefore works for Sanderson (I haven't read his books so I wouldn't know).

But my argument still applies for complex crafting which seems to be quite popular in RR.

>>24932118
It's the same as base building stories. It's just concentrated autism that wants everything to be systematized conveniently and every problem to have an easy checklist solution.

How do you know how to know how to end a chapter?

>>24932118
Every single time I've read something with crafting and it's been vaguely interested it always gets undermined by the author pulling some special snowflake protagonist only material out of their ass.

>>24932217
I try to utilize 3 act structure in a chapter. The usual thingg like the status quo, the action which interrupts the status quo, and return to status quo or the cliffhanger hook; something provoking, a hook to make the reader stay tuned for the next chapter.

>>24932169
>(I haven't read his books so I wouldn't know).
I suggest looking at a wiki for Mistborn at least, the magic system there is based on metal and is basically a kind of crafting system. So a reader can predict how brass or tin will be used for example.
You could apply his laws of magic systems to a crafting system and get the same kind of reader understanding.

Just copy vidya crafting systems. It is by nature consistent.

>>24932217
I just fit in scenes until I get near where I want my avg word count to be and then cliffhang

>>24932237
Ha ha, read my awesome comfy isekai crafting story! First, I'll craft some guns with my special skill, Philosopher's Stone, that lets me craft without ingredients and ensures everything produced is of the highest possible quality. Now I can level up quickly and easily. Oh shit, how do I up the stakes after making guns? Well, let's cook some nukes next

>>24932248
>Gather 10k iron bars and leather strips
>Make 10k iron daggers
>Best craftsman in the world

>>24932283
>I became the Crafting Sage by folding my iron bar over 10 thousand times

>>24932283
No you have to craft 10k copper swords before you can even smelt iron.
When you can craft 10k Runeforged Shadowghast greatswords you can be the best crafter in the world

>>24932245
Well, good for Sanderson. But still, that's exactly the point I'm trying to make; his magic system is good then, if the reader can actually predict what's going to happen with the metals at hand. Which is what I alluded to in my original post: unless your novel can give the readers the capability of prediction, then all the crafting is a pointless exercise in worldbuilding.

But crafting stories (the few I've tried at least) take the latter form always.

>>24932297
Well yeah, finding good stories even amongst "best rated" is like panning for gold. Even worse because a story someone else might think is a hidden gem annoys you in some way because of difference in personal taste.

Are there any cases of (non-smut) fanfiction getting c&d?

>>24932340
Yeah, there's some pretty infamous ones but I can't remember what they were of.
Still doesn't stop FF writers from doing patreons, most are just smart enough to never mention the name of the source anywhere on the patreon page

>>24932344
How does Seras get away with it when they literally have a pokemon sprite as their Patreon avatar

>>24932364
That's just how they choose to represent themself, PTV could mean anything!

>>24932340
do you consider romhacks and fangames to be fanfiction

>>24932344
Oh I think I was thinking of Anne Rice, she used to sue the fuck out of everyone and those weren't even commercial fanfics

>>24932397
No I think they're different because there's either distribution or a replication of the original game which is what triggers the lawyers.

>>24932410
You can still skirt by making the player provide the roms, it's how pokemmo has lasted

I gotta edit something and I think it's genuinely mentally easier to just rewrite the whole scene vs making the edit and fitting it in

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The first month of posting behind. Reached 200 followers, which is by far the best launch I've ever had, but the story's still clearly not grabbing the masses. Two reviews bitching about a character that has 0.0001% presence in the story dominate the fiction page and turn off potential readers. I've worked on this day and night like an animal for months, love the tale, and wouldn't have minded writing it for years to come, but that's just lunacy if it won't bring me a single cent. Guess I'll start preparing to wrap it up and return to the drawing board again.

>>24932283
>>24932296
>MC dumping 100,000 Mythforged Blades of the Sun’s Palace everywhere results in series of civil wars that proceed to topple his host kingdom’s government

>>24932461
Do you have any idea how many people completely ignore stories that are only a month old out of the expectation that the author will do exactly what you're doing? Quit now and a chunk of those 200 followers will never read you again because the don't trust you to finish your next story. Stick with it, if you still don't have a developing fanbase in six months you can move on.

>>24932490
Looking at RS, almost all stories that blow up are less than a month old. I've had older works that I kept going for 1-2 years thinking they COULD grow later, like you say, but no, they never do. If the start was slow, it doesn't get better.
>because the don't trust you to finish your next story
The story will have an ending though. But that doesn't even matter when I can just nuke my account and start over.

Is there anything inspired by the manga Blame! out there? Horrible transhuman sci-fi apocalypse. All i've found is necroepilogos.

>>24932490
You wrongly assume that they care about literally anything other than the money. Readers exist only to be exploited. They serve no other purpose.

>>24932568
Anons point is that they're chasing money in a really stupid way.

I'm not gonna read you if you have like 6 abandoned stories.

>>24932572
make a new account every couple stories if this is such an issue, you're not building a fanbase to begin with anyway

>>24932572
nta but I don't read reviews or look at what the author has written before reading a new story. I read the blurb and then a couple of chapters and then I decide to drop it or not. I do this with korean webslop too as well as manga. I'm sure I'm not alone.
>Horrible transhuman sci-fi apocalypse
Just read cultivation past the first few hundred chapters

>>24932604
>cultivation
like, the genre? I already do.

>>24932516
I launched mine in October and hit RS in November. I'm not saying count on it happening, but there's a chance.

>>24932118
>Crafting is the ultimate "tell don't show" type of story.
Unpopular opinion: Sometimes you should be telling instead of showing

>>24932516
>>24932654
There's a 37 day old story with 217 followers on RS
It's definitely possible.
The precepts said ~4 weeks witch actually means 5 and it's harder right now because those Girls Evolution fags are still doing their bullshit.

>>24932572
>I'm not gonna read you if you have like 6 abandoned stories.
You are very lonely with this mindset. It took me a long time to admit, but RR readers just don't operate the same way as rational, conscious human beings could be expected to. I've seen a guy who actually had like a dozen abandoned stories, but the newest became a smash hit. No one cares. At least, not many enough for it to matter.

>>24932546
>Is there anything inspired by the manga Blame! out there? Horrible transhuman sci-fi apocalypse. All i've found is necroepilogos.
Maybe Prepper's Dungeon would fit into that niche.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/85600/preppers-dungeon?sorting=newest

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>>24932546
Mine's set in a megastructure and is inspired by Blame! and other Nihei works but I'm not writing it as uber grim.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/138074

>>24932461
Give it another month, if you're still under 400 then slow down your releases, write it out to book one, mark it complete and plan to put it on KU eventually.
>Two reviews bitching about a character that has 0.0001% presence in the story
Schizo reviews are unavoidable and irrelevant. If you look anywhere that authors talk online they're complaining about them, it happens to everyone.

>>24932118
It's really not that hard
>give the crafter tools/info before they can utilize them properly
>give them a bunch of materials they don't know how to use
>either give them the info they need, or have them experiment to figure it out
>they put it together
You seem to want readers to see it coming, but readers don't like that for too long. Having a craft available, and NOT making it for too long, creates too much unresolved tension.
What you want is for there to be a missing piece, that arrives at just the right time to resolve a problem.

>>24932444
This happened to me, and after a day of struggling to edit a concise chapter, I just relented and let it blow up into two additional chapters completely rewritten. It makes me really feel for LN authors who have to stick to a word/page count.

>>24932956
>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/138074
Read the first chapter and could already feel the soul. Also excellent cover.

>>24933049
But there's no tension, since the missing piece can be whatever the author decides to cook up at that moment.

It's the same thing with many of the "reincarnated into my favorite VRMMO" types, like Small-time Villainess. When the author can just decide there's a dungeon with the reward being whatever the fuck the MC needs, why would I bother reading? It's just a videogame lore dump with extra steps.

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Thoughts on this vibe?

>>24932956
Is that wurger on that cover?

>>24931313
there's different styles of sci-fi. One style, is the weird quirky kind I mentioned. I read a number of these growing up.

>>24931261
>TINA creature detected
ah. another of my fans. hello, anon. This time? It was in fact Tina-anon.

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>>24933373
no, that's the White Serpent, it comes in when Zanma gets off the boat
the Wurger is the size of a tall man, unfortunately I don't have art of it yet (it was originally planned to have a more secondary role early on so I didn't commission something of it)

>>24933393
Too much skin for RR
You have to be in the cool kids discord club to use that much

>>24933406
was hoping I got to pitch my idea. Trying to be on some kind of meta. The only WN trope I'm able to get my creative head around at all, is isekai'd into a video-game-like world. I know I need a hook opening chapter. That's the short but violent betrayal of the MC and he dies. I was planning on using the humorous aspect of a tough guy MC being reborn as a hot anime video game babe.

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>>24929782
Is there a reason Chinese web novels and Chinese media in general seem willfully convoluted, shitty and random? Characters are introduced at random, plots are abandoned in seconds for new plots, its so schizophrenic it makes no sense.

I know from stuff like the classic Three Kingdoms show, A Will Eternal and Scissor Seven they are capable of making media which is not only narratively cohesive but also good/funny even. So what exactly is the cause of this?

>>24933427
sigma male grindset

>>24933425
These are all common tropes, it's just you don't see genderbender on RR that much. It's all over th eeastern ones like Novelpia though.
You should read I Became This Murims Crazy Bitch
Koreans are funny as fuck sometimes.

>>24933406
that's retarded, i've seen completely new fics from new accounts with bikini bitches on the cover

>>24933437
post examples? for science

Found this in an old notebook. Not sure I'll ever do anything with it since I can't think of anything beyond the premise.

Isekai becomes a real phenomenon and more and more people are abandoning their old reality for the fantasy video game world. The governments of the world are sent into a panic as the population across the world start to plummet. They hire a single person or task force not sure to go into the isekai world and find the people who abandoned Earth.

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>>24933437
They just haven't gotten caught yet

>>24933455
can we please have a middleground between RR and cuckpadd

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I was scrolling through the archives of a past thread and saw that someone posted about being a night shift security guard
I’m also considering doing so to break out of unemployment, would you be willing to post any pointers?
How do I land a position where I can just fuck off on my laptop all night, or does this dream not exist?

>>24933455
It's written this way but in reality it's not enforced to nearly this autistic extent. This is just to let RR cover their own ass and easily ban pornslop fics.

>>24933308
Nah, that's not how you'd do it.
You'd have crafter have all the materials needed, but lack the knowledge to make something.
Then, they get that knowledge, either at a cost to get the knowledge, or the crafting process has some kind of cost. Then they get the thing they need to resolve whatever conflict they're in.

Or you'd have the crafter have the knowledge, but be missing some material
>oh shit I could make the aphrodisiac of harem-formation but I need powdered dragon dick
then they figure out where a dragon is, and then slay the dragon or at least cut its dick off, and then they'd have to do the craft and then they can have their harem

If you don't get it at this point you probably just don't like crafting stories for some other reason, and that's okay, not everyone has to like crafting stories.

>>24933402
Ah ok, the spikes made me think it was wurger. Would love to see some art of that one, the description you gave made it sound wild. Also, I like how Zanma looks in this one in particular. Couldn't tell you why though. Might be the pose? Like he looks competent and smug at the same time.

I don't know why, but I like reading translated web novels (JP and KR) more than RR. Not talking about the plot, but more because of the structure and prose of the writing

>>24933566
That probably says more about the translator. Poorly translated/machine translated works are awful to read.

>>24933583
Definitely, I don't consider MTL or rushed stuff to be proper translations

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>>24933561
>he looks competent and smug at the same time
This was the intention, yeah. He rides around on the White Serpent as his mount so I had to give it somewhere for him to sit.

right now I can give you uh... this design sketch
and art for a puppet that won't come into the story for a little bit because he's still building it

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>>24933599
>>24933561
and the other art
"Pillar Templar" because it folds up for transport and looks like a pillar in that state

>>24933602
Oh is this the one he was working on on the boat when he got poisoned? Also, where's all his puppets now that he's off the boat? I only remember you mentioning the White Serpent getting off. Is it like a pack mule that can carry all his stuff for him? Sounds like it would be big enough for that. I might be trying too much, sorry if I am.

How do you guys stomach writing litrpg fantasy? It just doesn't make sense to me no matter what narrative gymnastics I do. The only exception I can think of is when the MC gets isekaid into an actual game, which I'm not really a fan of

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>>24933669
I don't.

>>24933669
I don't, litrpg is for scifi, fantasy is systemless

Im writing a cultivation novel
How do i deal with the inevitable flow of "ching chong ping pong" names i and the readers will have to put up with?
Should i sell out and start using a combination of japanese, mongol, chinese and korean names and try to adapt the plot so it makes sense? I swear people only remember chinese names of the protagonist of the story and eyone else else by their title, their powers or their role in the story, that's it, it's very hard for a westerner to keep up with a bunch of one syllable names
Seriously, how many people are named Long and Xiao? Fuck you, get better names china!

>>24933685
>flow
*flood

>>24933677
Isn't litrpg just fantasy with video game mechanics? Is there even a scifi litrpg?

>>24933665
Oh, you actually pointed out a plot hole. I got caught up in editing the disembarkation sequence and forgot to clearly mention that the White Serpent has a large-volume spatial-fold storage device inside it.

edited paragraph that I've pushed to the live chapter:

>The sound of the shipbeast’s groaning, gurgling and the creaking of its hull became slightly more noticeable to his ears, albeit for just a few moments. Still bleary-eyed, he looked over his workshop, thinking. Puppets, puppets everywhere the eye could see; skeletal Hollow Men in various states of construction and modification made up the vast majority of them. Workbenches, shelves, and racks of all sorts took up much of the space, so much so that the workshop’s sizable footprint appeared almost cramped. At the far end, a large hunched-over shape knelt, a mass of white ceramic and tangled serpents of maroon muscle with man-sized pylons of solid armor for forearms. Motionless and still, it was to be Zanma’s steed on this long journey. It was an incomplete and graceless thing, yet monstrously powerful all the same, and with a spatial-fold gut as voluminous as its naming implied: The White Serpent, Wyrmkaiser. Before it, strung up from a gantry overhead like a martyr, there hung the Wurger. Several holding bays with rib-like support arms to either side flanked the scene, each holding a Hollow Man.

He stores his entire workshop in there. There are still space limitations because he has a lot of shit to lug around, but he has it easier than most traveling puppetmasters.

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>>24933685
Stylistically no one has a problem with something like Cradle or Jade Empire (unless you present it as a translation like the retarded condor heroes localization)

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>>24933703
NTA but the issue isn't people not liking it
the issue is westerners just can't remember chink names and westerners writing chink names ends up with the reverse problem of picrel

>>24933708
Again, the jade empire solution names like 'Radiant Li'

>>24933692
litrpg is just progression with the numbers explicitly posted in the text.
A lot of the popular ones are scifi actually.
Like Stray Cat Strut has the numbers exist because aliens gave humans a system so that they could kill other aliens. The excuse is that the system helps them allocate resources efficiently but a lot of them don't even bother with an excuse.
You can debate scifi vs science fantasy but the latter isn't that popular of a genre term.

>>24933710
They can't all be Radiant Li anon...

>>24933669
In my fiction, levels come from magitek spheres on people's arms. They're super expensive and most adventurers rent them out.

>>24933827
That's a pretty cool and unique way to do it!

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How easy is it to transition from scriptwriting to writing decent prose? I'm going from comics to book formatting here.

>>24933840
they're entirely different except for high level

>>24933708
do to the chinks as they do to our western fantasy names. they come up with the strangest combination of names, such as Sneed Goy, then use chinese naming conventions on top of that.

>>24933882
I think what throws off Asian writers is they think our names have meaning and while they kinda do, nobody in the west actually knows or thinks about what names mean anymore. They just choose names based off whether they sound good. So they keep deep diving on western names and go "oh my character is going to be religious so I will name him Mateo El Theodore"

>>24933885
I'm native western and I do this

>>24933846
>they're entirely different except for high level
So, not at all? I take it you mean high level scriptwriting and not high level prose. It's drastically different than how prose was historically handled but looking at a lot of the novels here they don't seem to be very prose heavy.

>spent an hour going through bing images getting examples of character art to send to my cover artist buddy
>had a blast picking out edgy waifu pictures
Man, I'm actually getting excited for art bullshit. The wonders of getting a good night's sleep (by which I mean sleeping in until 11am)

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Just reached part 2 of Stranger in a Strange Land, man I feel completely out of my league reading this. Heinlein's writing, his prose, it's all so surreal, pretty overwhelming to grokk. It scares me I can't ape him at all.

>>24933708
Wang Long is a perfectly normal name.

>>24933840
Anon’s Apartment - Night
ANON sits hunched over a grimy old laptop. The cold blue glow of the LCD screen is the only light in the room. It spills across the keyboard and his thick fingers, casting his plump face in an eerie hue.
Behind a pair of thick-rimmed glasses, Anon’s heavy-lidded eyes dart across the screen.
Something catches his attention.
He smacks his lips and hovers his fingers over the stained keys like a pianist preparing for a performance.
ANON
(muttering to himself)
What’s this? “How easy is it to transition from scriptwriting to writing decent prose? I’m going from comics to book formatting here…” Well, obviously, you could just…
###
Late at night, Anon sat hunched over a grimy old laptop. The cold blue glow of the LCD screen was the only light in his dark apartment. It spilled across the keyboard and his thick fingers, casting his plump face in an eerie hue.
Behind a pair of thick-rimmed glasses, Anon’s heavy-lidded eyes darted across the screen.
A post on an image board caught his attention.
He smacked his lips and hovered his fingers over the stained keys like a pianist preparing for a performance.
“What’s this?” Anon muttered. “‘How easy is it to transition from scriptwriting to writing decent prose? I’m going from comics to book formatting here…’ Well, obviously, you could just…”

>>24933885
i assure you most eastern writers do not think that deeply about naming schemes. most of the time the writers just reference whatever western media they know, then name their characters based off a hodgepodge of mixed media. this is how you can get a character named Saruman and his brother Karuman in a chink western fantasy WN.

>>24934005
Unironically helpful. I'll mess with the formatting and it should be good to try this out. I'm trying to gauge different mediums to figure out what will be the most marketable. Thank you.

>>24930642
Maybe try making a Visual novel?
https://tsukiweb.holofield.fr/

>>24929782
Many light novels are pretty bad, but still succesful.
It makes no sense.
You'd think that high competition would result only the best becoming successful

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>>24934125
>https://tsukiweb.holofield.fr/
Man that music set off memories. Visual novels are potentially something worth considering but honestly something akin to a light novel would probably be better suited for what I'm doing. Visual novels are more litrpg.

>>24934110
I remember one of those AI chip things about being an optimized Warlock or whatever, that wound up calling his gigachad draconic bloodline "Targaryen" or some shit.

>>24934145
Well CYOA in Tsukihime's case. Point being they value direct interaction and mine very much focuses on things connecting together and the main involvement the reader has with the story is mostly how they interpret esoteric powers.

>>24932956
I read this and liked it, but im concerned if your story is actually ready for 'i can pull an army out of my asshole' storage bullshit from the outset? Honestly having the big puppet haul a cart that does a bunch of folding seems infinitely more reasonable, as the level of space warping im imagining happening here would really imply that alot of people are walking around with armories in their pockets, which would almost certainly get very messy from a writing standpoint.

>>24934125
Dang, many years ago, I fantasized about presenting my story as a browser visual novel, but had no idea how to do it. But guess it CAN be done.

>>24933520
But that still falls in the category of pulling things out of their ass. Needing powdered dragon dick to complete the potion and therefore needing to kill a dragon sounds like manufactured conflict. The problem is still that pdd is completely arbitrary; the only reason to need it is because the author demands it.

>>24934263
By your logic, every work of fiction ever made is "manufactured conflict." Not that half of the crafter stories are that logical or coherent

every work of fiction is manufactured conflict

>>24934292
so is every interaction with women

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>>24934298
why can't anime be real

>>24929782
any more kino where genderbent mc lose to cock like pic related?

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>>24934317
none so far other than outright smut novel i'm afraid

>>24934230
https://sandbox-adventure.com/
You can play old console arcade games in browser with full controller support now.
https://gam.onl/n64/

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>amnesiac MC gets kidnapped and gaslit by a psychotic yandere fox demon
>author tells his readers to shut the fuck up and let him cook instead of just cooking in silence

>>24934365
I can't stand unconfident author's notes
Genuinely might be the most offputting thing I encounter

>>24934365
That's one advantage of tradpub. People will mostly deliver comments on a book by book basis rather than every single chapter getting commented to fuck.

I wish I get chapter comments on a regular basis...

>>24934420
tftc

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Winnies for this feel?

>>24934161
The main limiting factor to this is Zanma's own progression. He can only split his attention so many ways, and he can only make and maintain so many threads, with each puppet having its own threadcount demand, that demand will rise as he progresses and makes better and more complex puppets.

Basically I've already put checks and balances in place to avoid this becoming a huge issue. The average puppetmaster would be able to use maybe a squad of puppets. There are naturally doctrines about using lots of minimal puppets and one big fat fuck (later giant mech) but that's only natural. There are also completely different evolutionary disciplines, on the psionic side there are Sculptors, who focus on individual combat power with huge outbursts, and there are also other puppetmaster-adjacent disciplines that use threads but in different ways, like to make swords or guns fly (they are much more limited in how much mass they can move due to not being able to get the advantage of psionic gearboxes).

Eaters are mutants and Becomers can just go full robocop and it's not exceptional. It's a setting full of very powerful people, disciplines, and creatures.

>>24934453
>male elf
are all male elves this provocative?

>>24934317
wait two threads

>>24934494
>>24934161
also drop a rating

>>24934534
It's a measure to fight the low mpreg birthrates in their elf boys only world.

>>24934494
I was referring to the fact that, assuming he can carry an entire workshop around when he is if not exactly a broke student, but clearly not very high as far as both wealth and powerlevels come how much storage would someone just a stage higher than him be lugging around? Specifically speaking in terms of consumables or simply employing things like them. Think of a guy who has a gun that overheats with 1 shot as you seem to be using that as a limiting factor, now what if he just has 75 of these? In a more modern sense you could instead thing of a guy who just decided to attach the in universe equivalent of a GAU-8 and an obscene amount of ammo to just keep shooting, forever. The ability to completely ignore bulk and weight to bring weaponry that might ordinarily be reserved for heavy weapons platforms or even ships of a sort. For puppeteers surely youve already touched on the abilities chief advantage in that they can suffer attrition in an entirely different level to other professions but like, why cant he have 20 Wurgers and just keep sending them at you in sequence, except now they *also* have a nuclear bomb strapped to each just to ensure they cause a bit o damage. My point isnt really that spatial storage is op as a concept, it just seems like our mc has access to a disgustingly huge one and he isnt anywhere near being ranked on anything, so what does a big one look like? Is it possible for someone to pull out a goddamn warship minus water wherever they want?
>>24934553
I dont actually have a RR account im so sorry, also i appreciate the Qud references.

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>>24934564
hot ngl and would fall for their bait

Can you guys stop being gay for one thread

>>24934637
Says the femc tranny

>multiple posts about genderbent guys falling to cock and elf femboys
>femc bad
never change /lit/

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Optimal filters?

I am about 30% sure that part of the reason Song of the Gift Giver didn't take off is because the author keeps posting scantily clad women in every author's note.

>>24934612
He's one of two inheriting disciples of a a reclusive and (this is not known yet) widely known puppetmaster, an "old monster" so to speak. The amount of storage space he has is completely disproportionate for his stage. What he has IS what a big one looks like. Generally they're much more limited and can only fit basically personal belongings, and are also extremely expensive and difficult to find, the usual retrictions on spatial storage items you see in xianxia but even more than usual.

Before I get into specifics, there is a main limiting factor to spatial storage: Bigger=Slower.
Both in terms of capacity and items. A small storage unit can be quick, basically a pocket that's bigger on the inside. A "warehouse in a box" will take time to get shit out of there, and even opening/closing the aperture will be slower, and the fuller it gets, the slower it will be, sort of like a hard drive. I use similar limitations for the storage in my other novel, Cherno Caster, where the MC has a big storage and a small storage with one being slow and one being fast enough to use in combat like a hotbar.

>why cant he have 20 Wurgers and just keep sending them at you in sequence, but also suicide bomb them

I mean he could do that but it would wipe out years and years worth of work. It's possible as a last ditch effort thing.

>why not use spatial storage as a giant gun bandolier
No reason. You can. It would be a pretty niche and specific setup to make it work, but it could be done. Particle smasher ammo also has the issue that it's really, really "heavy". Not physically, but as far as storage devices see it, it's very heavy. At the end of the day the difficulty of making this setup work is not too different from achieving a similar level of firepower using conventional accelerator guns. It's all a matter of tradeoffs, at least that's how I try to balance everything.

>GAU-8 etc
I mean this is basically what the higher tiers of accelerator guns are so yeah

>Zanma has BIG storage space
repeating myself here but yes he does but he's an exception because he's an inheritor young master, this isn't normal
he encounters (the corpse of ) a "below-average" traveling puppetmaster in ch20, so wait for that ig

>>24934669
>€9,959/month
Seems to be doing okay despite the title making me think of bug chasers. No wonder he had to write
>I’m asked this a lot - it’s not a M/M story.

>>24931148
Gahhhhd dayum that image is so mean but I can’t stop lmaoing

>>24934679
But that number is for his Patreon that includes other shit; I'm speaking about his new fiction in isolation. Despite having such a large following from BtDEM, Song didn't even hit top 3 RS, and was only briefly in the top 7. It has 2.2k followers, of which the majority are likely dragger-ons.

Veresavir, which launched at a similar time by an equally large name, now has 8k followers. And honestly, judging only from the first few chapters that I've read, Veresavir is way worse.

>>24934125
As an avid reader of VNs, the medium is even more dead than trad publishing

>>24934690
Okay, I don't care enough to think about this, I just thought the name was funny enough to check it out. Didn't even realize the author was one of the big tranny litrpg authors.

>>24934719
I guess I don't care enough about it either; just thought it would be funny if the author shot himself in the foot by advertising the discord using women in bikinis at the end of every chapter.

>>24934672
Makes sense, i was simply under the impression he had and 'average' young master storage space, i also found an old account and left a 5 star for you. i eagerly await new chapters.

>>24934263
There's a certain level of willing suspension of disbelief that is needed to enjoy fiction. Like the other responder said, all conflict in a fictional narrative is to some extent, arbitrary because the author wrote it that way.
Now I could write an encyclopedia article about alchemy, and why powdered dragon dick not only has the material compounds and chemicals needed for an aphrodisiac, but also the metaphysical and formulary aspects and concepts needed for specifically an aphrodisiac of harem-formation, and how a harem is conceptually different from a non-harem group of female romantic partners, etc etc.
But at the end of the day the MC needs to go out and cut off a dragon's dick to get his harem.
If I had to guess, no shade, you just want a lot more depth in your worldbuilding and setting than most litrpg authors are going to dump. And the reason authors keep things vague is because too much worldbuilding is incredibly limiting from a narrative perspective. Look at how many authors get stuck writing errata for years and never actually write any kind of story in the setting they created.

>>24934612
>I dont actually have a RR account im so sorry
I gotcha bud. Zanma PT isn't my kinda fiction but I'll give it 5 on your behalf

Does anyone here pay for Patreon releases?

>>24934669
A lot of it is that the main characters are all introduced and portrayed as unlikeable and repulsive.
Erik: sociopath with a heart of gold (trust me!!!! -author)
Felix: poorfag who gets wizardry dropped in his lap... exists only to suffer
Alexandria: physically violent resentful bitch
Hannah or whoever the fuck: abused psychic who ALSO is a bitch for basically no reason
This extends to the side characters. All of them. There's not a single good, actually good and likeable side character in the entire story.

So even though a lot of BTDEM readers carried over, it's only the stupidest ones with the worst taste. See the comments section for proof. Everyone else bailed.

>>24934690
Rhaegar is a technically worse writer but he's voluminous and writes what people want. Though, I haven't actually started Journey yet, been waiting to have a few hours to set aside. Song put me in such a foul mood it ruined my week last week.

>>24934797
I get paid for Patreon releases. Might be able to answer your questions.

>>24934812
I suppose you're right about the characters, I didn't read enough to hate them. I'm just not a fan of the setting at all. Monty Python did irreparable damage to the image of Camelot, and it smells of budget Harry Potter.

I wonder if the academy setting is one of the more restrictive settings to write, honestly. Lot of cliches that are necessary to even sort of make the moment-to-moment plot work, like the rich bully who winds up humiliated, the teachers being useless dickheads to explain why they don't solve every problem for the students, the general problems involved with writing children/teenagers.

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>>24934839
>>24934839
Your school setting has no World War by volume 4?
Skill issue.

>>24934850
You've still got to get to volume 4 in the first place, chief. Ain't no one reading that far without picking up the prior volumes.

>>24934839
I hate the trope of professors that are the best in their fields also being competent teachers. You don't become an expert in pedagogy by being autistic about your work. Very rare cases.

Even worse when I'm supposed to believe snot-nosed kids can compete or impress the professors; especially when it's the MC and the problem they solve took 1 obvious leap of logic to solve or something.

>>24934853
But, my readers did. 26k views.

>>24934859
I've been finally getting myself into reading novels after years of indoctrination telling me reading was boring. I'm genuinely surprised at how many people read given how I don't know anybody in the US my age who does.

>>24934797
Nope. Fuck credit card payment fees, fuck platform fees. If I ever wanted to send an author money I'd DM them offering to send crypto. I don't even buy physical books anymore, although I used to, because I'm out of space and read too much.
I'm tempted to buy a copy (license) of the Pinnacle Warrior ebook so I can leave an amazon review, but I probably won't.

>>24934839
>the rich bully who winds up humiliated, the teachers being useless dickheads to explain why they don't solve every problem for the students, the general problems involved with writing children/teenagers.
I have none of these in my academy story, am I doing it wrong?

>>24934835
>and it smells of budget Harry Potter.
It is, but grimdark, but the author's style and tone is incongruent with such a dark/dismal environment. It's jarring and tacky.

>>24934839
It is, but that shorthand makes it easy to just jump into the narrative without explaining everything. Dyntril Academy has similar problems.

>>24934850
Uhh mine has that and a racial genocide in volume 3, noob.

>>24934893
Probably, but we may never know for sure.

>>24934827
Are you the guy who makes 150 bucks and acts like he's Brandon Sanderson?

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The new chapter of FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist' is out!!!
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story/chapter/2830624/ego-witch-part-six

In this chapter: The final fight starts.
Stay ready for this volume's final chapter next week.
>>24934886
Same happened to me. I wasted my childhood avoiding reading because society made fun of it. I think it’s kind of artificial, something forced by traditional media outlets to avoid competing with such a superior medium.
>>24934898
My genocide ‘happened’ in volume two. Also, how many civil wars within a civil war does your setting have?

>>24934918
>Also, how many civil wars within a civil war does your setting have?
More internal collapse due to corruption than a civil war. Also refugee crisis and fantasy racism among the humans.

I guess we're, on average, even since your genocide was in 2 and world war was 4, while mine were both in 3, but I'll cede I don't have nested civil wars.

>>24934926
Sounds fun. Post it.

>>24934930
Sorry, I'm too pussy to associate my story with 4chan.
Also it's not fun since volume two is a drag, and needs heavy edits still. I lost a commenter just when it gets good because he was fed up with it... ;_;

Let's say I write my fiction "Book 1", and post it all. I will write Book 2 eventually, but not right after---perhaps start posting 6 months later after a good break. Would I be better off posting Book 2 as a separate fiction, linking it from Book 1's page, or within the same fiction page?

>>24934952
Probably better to have a completed book than an INACTIVE.

>>24934952
There's no good reason to split pages, if they're parts of the same story.

>>24934956
>>24934959
I'm just wondering about the mechanics of popularity. Let's assume the most idealistic and optimistic case, that I get RS on my book 1. Can I get RS on book 2 as well, once the break period has passed?

I just don't want to put the effort into writing Book 2 if it's just going to be pretty much dead in the water from the start, and the only new traffic would be from New Releases.

>>24934964
Latest Updates*, not New Releases

>>24934952
From my understanding it's better to keep them in the same fiction, since you won't have to regain old followers.

>>24934964
>Can I get RS on book 2 as well, once the break period has passed?
No, I think there's a debuff on getting on RS twice. But nobody knows the exact criteria.
The correct thing to do is rely on followers, network for shoutouts, and buy an ad advertising that book two is now posting serialized.
The even more correct thing to do would be to keep posting rather than taking a six month break. Why would you do that?
Also if you're going to do that maybe you'll want to lean harder on Amazon and KU for revenue, rather than targeting RR's RS and patreonbux.

>>24934952
Just mark it as complete until you start posting book 2

>>24934964
You gain nothing from hitting RS, if you're going to just ghost everybody for 6+ months or maybe forever and then doing the same again on a different page. That's not how any of this works

>>24934859
OK, and...? You realize that's not bigtime numbers, right?

>>24934980
Do NOT do this unless the story actually comes to a proper conclusion, or you'll get roasted in reviews.

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>>24934969
Also, last thing, RR does recommend similar fictions on fiction pages. So even without RS or ads, I grew my fiction from 250 followers to 3X0 followers over a couple months just from posting regularly. So there's some level of organic growth even without ads or RS. It's probably based on users who follow and favorite similar fictions.

>>24934979
I'm doing it as a passion project; I'm not planning on having a Patreon or KU. I just enjoy writing it and reading the comments. The break would be mostly to write at my own pace the whole Book 2 before posting again. I'm terrible at outlining and always need to go back to the front to fix the little things, so I don't think I can do continuous releases.

But my motivation is not endless, and actually having people read my shit would push me to pursue a continuation.

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Is isekai and/or transmigration really the best way to start my story?

we love female protagonist here

>>24935014
agpbros, get in here

>>24935006
No, but it has an inherent appeal that normalfags struggle to understand so they say shit like "this story being isekai doesn't serve a purpose".

>>24935014
So true sis! Trans rights are human rights!

>>24934918
>Same happened to me. I wasted my childhood avoiding reading because society made fun of it. I think it’s kind of artificial, something forced by traditional media outlets to avoid competing with such a superior medium.
A significant part of me thinks it's intentional to prevent people from having an imagination. I still associate screens with entertainment but I'm hoping I'll be able to gradually mitigate.

>>24935006
I won't read it if you don't.

>>24935006
I would start your work after the isekai happens. About 500 years should be enough.

>>24935006
No but on RR it is.

As a transphobe man, I only read FeMC. No, I am not projecting, and I am not coping.

>>24935039
there's no such thing as a transphobe

I realized that I much prefer thinking about writing to actually writing. So I'm just going to do that.

>>24935039
Only trannies even use the word transphobe.

>>24935027
John Taylor Gatto wrote several books on why the school system is the way it is.
It's to produce economic units: producers and consumers who obey authority instinctively, without any pesky thinking.

>>24935047
/wg/lord I kneel

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>>24935047
Me too. I think I've come up with the grand ultimate narrative theory. But I'm just thinking about it instead of writing, or even writing about it.

>>24935116
I learned about the system through Ted Kaczynski but honestly John Taylor Gatto is probably more tame and easier to recommend. Also probably less of a doomsayer.

>>24935047
You're late to the party, I realized that 2 years ago

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I can never decide where to start my stories. I'm going for this sort of vibe.

>>24935047
literally me. writing to lead up to the good part of the story in my head has been painful and I realized I prefer daydreaming it now more than ever.

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>>24935157
>visible pilebunker
BASED

>>24935047
OK. Can you fuck off from these threads, then?

>>24935164
>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
>A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels',
He is clearly interested in web novels so his post is on-topic. Your post implies only interest in becoming a janny to me so maybe you should apply.

Thinking about writing instead of writing is pretty much /lit/core
/lit/maxing even

Thoughts on progression fantasy story with multiple, competing POVs?

>>24935190
Unlikely to do well on RR

>>24935190
Maybe would work if it's a boy and a girl and they end up becoming Dao companions, preferably before the end of the story.

>>24935190
too quirky. unless they both end up sexing each other, not interested.

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>>24935161
nice

>>24935190
Multiple POVs suck. Always. They suck. They fucking stink. Nobody enjoys reading them. But for whatever godforsaken reason, everyone and their dog insists on writing them. The more, the better! It's retarded.

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>>24935337
Skill issue.

>>24935337
Mad that your OP personalityless aura farmer isn't getting 100% of the spotlight I see

You don’t have to write a multi POV story to occasionally hop into another character’s head.

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Now with Ghost of Tsushima out of the way, I can finally resume writing second draft rewrite... guh.... I still feel this urgency I need to figure out the flow of the nu-outline 1 sentence 1 chapter outline.

>>24934005
kek

How specific/focused can an author get with a description of a female character before you suspect it's a fetish?

>>24935508
Don't describe more than 3 characteristics with one of them being the main focus.

>>24935508
5-6 years ago I got away with sneaking in "arms folded under breasts" a little too much—but I also wrote off-meta, so nobody gave a single shit.

>>24935508
If someone doesn't use a Breasted Boobily line, I assume they're a woman.

>>24935508
I spend hardly any time describing the body and way too much time on the clothes.

>>24935508
>tfw my fetish is a specific type of shoe

>>24935508
The author of Powder Mage spent a notable amount of words describing how nearly every female character is flat