When did you realize that Kant was just a reddit-tier rationalist?
>>24933187never because he's not
go back.
>>24933404He is. All of his shit is just godless rationalism that invariably ends in atomized liberalism.
>he thinks he can defeat reddit-tier rationalism with reddit-tier consequentialism
>>24933479didn't actually read Kant cope
>>24933479>invariably ends in atomized liberalism.He never posits anything related to that.
>>24933187If anyone is the epitome of reddit-tier philosophers, it’s Russell.
>>24933501Kant uses consequentialism to justify adopting any maxim. He was a closet consequentialist. You should not want an honor-code society because it leads to blood feuds or whatever and destroys the space of right even though you can justify norse-style retribution killings with the CI in a perfectly valid way.>>24933546Yes, because he was too short-sighted. But the truth is that his system virtually destroys religion in favor of autonomy worship, which invariably leads to liberal-style do whatever you want so long as you don't "harm" anyone.
>>24933580To be clear, Kant does seem to fetishize the right to life, but when he gets intp concretes, it becomes messy. Suicide is bad because boohoo means to an end, but self-sacrifice in war is fine... murder is bad, but execution of criminals is fine... because they killed people... am I to think that insulting people back is fine because they insulted me? The norse had a clear code of conduct. If someone insulted you severely, you had the right to avenge your honor and kill him. The saga heroes do this and they know that they are doing this. They will it as if it were a universal law and would not have it any other way. "Live in a community where I could not defend my honor? Contemptible!"
>>24933580you are beyond retarded and redemption
>>24933734And you cannot explain why because ypu are a retard who sucks Kant's cock, for whatever reason.
>>24933580He wasn't a consequentialist. Without the external world you don't get Kant. If you're one of the idiots that keeps showing up in Kant threads without it then you likely started getting Nietzschean responses.
>>24933580Is there any books which talk about why certain demographics are more akin to uphold honor codes than others?
>>24933404>>24933541>instant meltdown over OPKantianbros...
>>24934416Anyone retarded enough to think that Kant was engaging with consequentialism is a high school drop out and deserves nothing but scorn and ridicule.
>>24934605Kant was a race realist and talks about such things extensively in his anthropology
>>24933187>>24933571Can you give an explanation for why "reddit-tier" rationalism is wrong, political shitflinging set aside? I already understand why, but I want to know if you do.
>>24933593>Suicide is bad because boohoo means to an endNo, it's because in a world where suicide to avoid unhappiness is a maxim, it is impossible to even conceive of committing suicide. This has funny implications however: feeding the hungry isn't a good action because if everyone fed the hungry, no hungry people would be left, making the maxim impossible to conceive of
>>24933404fpbp
>>24935051Based? Actually something that makes me want to read philosophy for once.
