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read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi
it's peak

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>>25294716
FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antgonist' mogs your shill

>>25294716
>>25294718
>brand new thread when no one is posting
>replies exactly a minute later
noticing

How do characters wearing those Chinese robes even do combat? It doesn't even look like you can kick in those things? Applies to both wuxia and xianxia

I picked up Path of Dragons. The premise seems really cool - a druid system apocalypse story. I started reading, but it felt a little off at the beginning, so I decided to take a look at the reviews:
>Multi POV
Literally the second chapter of the story already swaps to another POV to a character that isn't anywhere near MC. If there's a literary sin this should be near the top of the list.
>You will see some negative reviews about LGBT+ characters in this novel, those come from a place of hate.
Any criticism about LGBT stuff, no matter how mild, always gets labeled as hate by the supporters. This implies that there's going to be a lot of LGBT stuff in the story. Reviews wouldn't bring it up otherwise at all. Eg The Wandering Inn has some LGBT characters, but it doesn't come up in reviews.

This is the TOP review for the story:
>One of my favorite books so far. Watching the mc fight and stugleing to survive as he learns his place in this new world is so fun to read. I really love learning about the new world and what makes it unique. Ive alway like world building so very much.
I feel like the "top" review should say a little more than that.

I don't know if this is worth continuing. I guess I'll continue reading until I get to the inevitable "men are bad" or "if you aren't an ally you're evil" point in the story.

>>25294773
That really didn't take long:
>“Maybe Roy will get eaten by a zombie. Or turned. Then, I can legally blow his head—”
>“Carmen!”
>“Who’s Roy?” asked Miguel.
>“Someone your mom knows from work,” Alyssa said, referring to the head of Carmen’s department. He was a blatant misogynist who constantly questioned her work, belittled her at every opportunity, and had even come on to her on more than one occasion. “He’s not important.”
Miguel is supposedly these son of these two women. At another point one of the moms called the 8 year old kid's taste "trash" for liking the walking dead.

>“Okay, so first thing’s first,” Alyssa said, deciding that it was better to treat it as an apocalyptic emergency and be wrong than the opposite scenario. “We need to catalog our supplies. You and Miggy go to the kitchen—”
>“Did you seriously just tell me to go to the kitchen?” asked Carmen with a grin.
And we've already had 2 month time skip in like the first 10 chapters. What's the point of a system apocalypse story of you just skip over the early parts?! You're already spreading yourself thin by adding these POV switches constantly.

>>25294766
those robes are much thinner than you’d think/there are different kinds of “robes”/chinese wizards

>>25294773
>Any criticism about LGBT stuff, no matter how mild, always gets labeled as hate
Because any LGBT stuff, no matter how mild, always gets "criticism"

>>25294812
Can you show me where all the criticism for LGBT stuff is for The Wandering Inn? I even brought this point up in the comment you replied to.
In The Storm King nobody complains about some of the side characters fucking each other despite it falling under the LGBT umbrella.

So no, you're wrong.

>>25294821
>look, I found two massively popular stories that don't immediately prove me wrong, good luck looking for evidence on the contrary from among the tens of thousands of comments!
kys, idiot

>>25294821
Pale Lightsmdoes the smart thing. First it throws at you the comicaly thirsty lesbo and a hetero-romance before opening the LGBT floodgates.

>>25294824
>>25294812
>Because any LGBT stuff, no matter how mild, always gets "criticism"
>Because any LGBT stuff
>any
Words have meaning. It clearly isn't that ANY LGBT content in a story gets criticized. It's the lazy kind that tries to push politics that does. That criticism also pisses off all the defenders.

>>25294829
All "LGBT content" is lazy and tries to push politics thoughbeit.

>>25294806
Jesus f christ what a garbage writing

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>>25294859

>>25294766
>It doesn't even look like you can kick in those things?
Do you think they're sewn in like Morticia Addams or something? Those robes are loose as fuck. Shit's easier to fight in than pants setting aside grappling.

>>25294766
Just watch any kungfu movie with jet li

>>25294877
>>25294882
I think you are talking about short dress over pants and he is talking about full priest robes

>>25294897
>I think you are talking about short dress over pants
I'm talking about fucking robes.

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>>25294897
Robes are generally worn over pants too.

>>25294918
Thats not a full on priest robe. Maybe it's a translation issue? We read priest robes and we think of the long trailing ones the oldfart senseis wear.

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>>25294941
>Thats not a full on priest robe
What the fuck are you calling a priest robe? Dude just said robe so I posted a normal ass robe without side slits (which many have, some up to the sash).

There's also the skirted variety, but those aren't exactly lacking in leg room either.

>>25294955
I don't fucking know , i'm not from china. I just google 'china priest robe' and see results.

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>>25294963
You're the one that said priest robe, lunatic. You should know what you mean.

>>25294955
Also even robes that don't look like they have giant slits can have giant slits.

>>25294766
>>25294897
>>25294897
I watched a couple of wuxia dramas and they don't kick much. It's mostly swordfighting, punching and magic.

>>25294967
kek those are a meme, nobody wears them
https://youtu.be/A876Nq7OUfg&t=84 is a irl daoist master wearing a robe

Just passed 40 followers on RR.
Eventually maybe one day I'll make it.

>>25295083
as far as 40 people are concerned, you already have
maybe you should count yourself among them

I'm planning out the story I want to write and I'm just drawing a blank for companions for the main character. I have a vague shape of an idea for what they are useful for in the plot, but I just can't seem to put down any details about them.

I'm having a similar problem with antagonists. I've got the one that's fleshed out and then the "final boss" (but I wouldn't consider that to really be an antagonist), but I have such a hard time coming up with anything intermediate. This one is a little easier, because I can just draw upon stereotypes to fill them out. My problem is more that I don't know where they would be antagonistic so that it actually feels satisfying when they are beat.

Exceptionally dead thread

>>25295181
I'm busy reading Sexy Steampunk Babes by Bluefishcake
it's ok

>>25294526
>>25294651

junior, barrels and bullets have no eyes. it is nobody's fault when ammunition is aimmed at your head. Please sign this death pledge absolving me from any liability and let us begin our friendly contest.

>>25295186
I felt the same way towards Sexy Sect Babes.
The okayest book I dropped a couple hundred thousand words in.

>>25295167
>I'm planning out the story I want to write and I'm just drawing a blank for companions for the main character
He doesn't need a companion.

>>25295167
Visit TV Tropes
Pick and choose the character archetypes you like.
It’s that easy.

>>25295167
Holy vague post

>>25295192
“Thirty years west of the Mississippi, thirty years east of the Mississippi. Never bully the poor and downtrodden!” Yee Lee declared as red, white, and blue spiritual qi spiraled around his bluesteel Colt.
“Yee Lee, hand over the deed to the Sun-Bleached Ranch now, or don’t blame this old man for showing no mercy,” Slavemaster Butcher sneered.
He sat astride a powerful obsidian mustang, one hand resting on the ivory grip of his gold-plated repeater. Behind him, six cultivators of the Iron Rail Gang leveled their rifles at the lone youth standing against them upon the sweltering salt flats. The black iron barrels shimmered beneath the merciless sun.
“Mercy?” Yee Lee thundered. “Where was that mercy when you butchered my father and sold my brothers and sisters into slavery? For nine bitter years, I wandered the borderlands, surviving on muddy water and spirit coyotes. For nine bitter years, I tempered the Supreme Lone Wanderer Dao Heart, severing myself from all humanity, all for the day I could claim my revenge. And that day has finally come!”
Butcher’s expression darkened. “Insolent brat! You dare fail to recognize heaven and earth before you? My patience is spent. Die!”
His thumb snapped back the hammer of his golden repeater. The motion carried the weight of a lifetime of tyrannical cultivation, swift as lightning.
But Yee Lee was faster.
His hand blurred and seven shots cracked across the salt plain, so rapid they sounded as one.
Screams erupted. The Iron Rail Gang cultivators collapsed where they stood, fingers frozen stiff upon their triggers.
“…Im… impossible…”
Blood trickled down Slavemaster Butcher’s brow. A clean hole pierced the center of his forehead and exited through the back of his skull.
He swayed once before tumbling from his mount, dead before he struck the earth.
Yee Lee watched his father’s killer fall without the slightest flicker of emotion. In his pursuit of vengeance, he had long ago abandoned even the capacity for satisfaction.
“Father… brothers… sisters… your souls may finally rest.”
He released his gun, letting it fall into the dust. His hand was charred black and ruined from unleashing the forbidden Tri-Color Extreme Yang Quickdraw.
Now left weaponless, purposeless, Yee Lee climbed onto the masterless obsidian mustang and rode alone into the wavering heat haze upon the horizon.

What are gu?

>>25294760
I dont think OP is trying to hide he's the Clara casewell slammer lmao

>>25295258
That's not a vaguepost at all

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>>25295181
Just binged through and caught up to Labor of Zucchini's new web novel . . . and then realized it actually ended in ch31. Wish I had the courage to make a review and even more skill to write one, but I liked it. I liked it, despite the rough edges. In other news finished starship troopers over the course of a day earlier this week, was shocked to see firsthand how completely different it was from the american movie, and how much of a checklist it felt reading it(this happened, this happened, before this happened this happene, after this happened this happened...) just felt bewildering reading it nearly right after moon mistress and crazy to me he wrote this right as he was writing stranger in a strange land, still enjoyed it though despit the utter lack of characters agency or really any depth at all (again reading this after mistress where there was some form of agency, and mindboggling still where there was characters existing in stranger), starting on vol 1 of war and peace now, have nothing to read winnies-wise or at least none that catch my eye after Sworn to Destruction... don't feel like reading max level anymore and the others I'm following are either on and off in hiatus or unannounced dropped.

>>25295100
Wise words anon

>>25295326
Names that the author creates randomly to put in paragraphs explaining why people have magic powers.

>>25295326
>>25295623
A reminder that RI is a chinese festish story about a guy turning dudes into women so he can lust over them without technically being gay.

>>25295633
>Sexy female body but with rational male mind instead of annoying histrionic female one
Sounds based

>>25295675
genderbent mc took off for a reason

>>25295675
This is why my female MC's are just dudes.

>fmc is a huge nymphomaniac slut
>preferably xianxia but anything without explicit vydia-like system is fine with me

Any recomendations? Asking for a friend.

>>25295623
You're talking to someone with an extended mental fapping holodeck story where my self insert battles FY to steal BNB back and turn him male and give him that gu that century boy used to have a permanent boy wife.
So uh, I didn't need this reminder

>>25296006
Why is it that every time someone brings up interpersonal relationships in RI, it's about some form of homosexuality?

>>25296233
> why is a gay novel gay
idk anon, it's a mystery.

Name more chuuni moments than
>Luffy busting out his first big powerup against a mook of all people and absolutely skullfucking him (Blueno)
or
>Yusuke spending an amount of time fighting the demon who killed his master before ripping apart his limiters

feels bad reading through anon's TES fanfic Stranger's Fate and many of his RR notes are "leave a review!" and/or "rec to an Elder Scrolls fan!" and he has like 2 (two!) reviews total
:c

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Read Master of Gu
It's peak

>>25296647
She reads on my master till I Gu.

would it be a good idea if my RoyalRoad advertisement insulted "archmage readers?"

>>25296735
I think it could work if you make fun of the flood of Archmages itself.

>>25296586
Begging is pathetic

>>25296586
Those paragraph sizes
Man, nobody listens

>>25296684
>She
That's Bai Ning Bing

>>25294821
>In The Storm King nobody complains about some of the side characters fucking each other despite it falling under the LGBT umbrella.
Because western haremfags (redditors) made themselves LGBTQIA allies.

Western portrayal of LGBTQ is always partisan and meant to divide, either LGBTQ is shown in positive light and the other side in negative or the other way round. Chinese novels portray LGBTQ in an inclusive manner, they don't try to divide and they don't take sides.

>This story was inspired by Frieren, The Silent Witch, Witch Hat Atelier, Delicious In Dungeon, A Silent Voice, Super Supportive, Wist...
So... it's shit?

Fags don't exist in my setting

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>>25297081
So true, king

>>25297125
Uh oh...

I’m coming to the end of volume 1 of RI and after reading all this Bai Ning Bing stuff on here and then paying attention while reading the novel the gay vibes are so obvious from the moment he is introduced. Like wtf. How are some people in denial about this?

>>25297136
>denial

>>25297136
>Bai Ning Bing
do chinks really?

>>25297148
Keep in mind these are romanizations of chink names and they're much more distinct in chink writing. RI is shit tho.

>>25297150
>RI is shit tho
it gets good after chapter 199

>>25297148
Bai Ning Bing Chilling

>>25297150
His name is literally "White Frozen Ice" which is redundant

>>25297148
I've of the most popular Chinese actresses is called Fan Bing Bing

>>25297121
>It's like (that thing that's popular right now) and like (a dozen other popular things)!
I get perverse satisfaction from seeing these stories flop hard

I've listened ~2 hours of Path of the Deathless by OstensibleMammal.
what did I think of it?

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Hi! I've been lurking and posting normally, but I'd just like to slip off the anon-veil for a tiny second to share my excitement for the progress of my cover art comm. The artist I got was only $150 for it plus full commercial rights. If anyone's looking for a cover artist I can link them!

>>25297125
Xhe kinda bad tho

>>25297037
What's wrong with them? I don't write myself. This feels like an actual novel though and not some typical amateur-ish self-pub.
>>25297187
Is that the Godclads guy?

>>25297194
If I listened to ~2 hours of Godclads by OstensibleMammal, what would I think of it?

>>25297187
>+ System inspired by Stubborn Skill-Grinder
dropped before even picking it up

>>25297189
KINO-MAN HERE.
I need this chad!!!

>>25297210
https://vgen.co/amaimanis_
Super affordable, incredibly friendly. I told him I needed it within the month's end and he has that already in a week. I was really grateful since I was in a huge bind due to the other cover artist I put in a request for just not doing anything for three weeks.

>>25297189
you paid 150 bucks for this shit?

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>>25297211
Just realized this sounds like a fucking ad I genuinely just had an artist who sat around doing nothing for three weeks while I commed this guy a week ago when I realized I needed something within the month.

>>25297212
It's the sketch! The fact it was done in a week and looks very nice is exciting.

>>25297213
You're impressed this bland doodle took "only" a week?

>>25297258
Faster than the three weeks I was waiting. Are you okay, anon?

>>25297187
I thought it was pretty boring, it doesn't feel like there are any stakes

>>25297194
They look normal on PC but on mobile (which is 95% of readers) it looks like walls of text.
For winnies no Paragraph should be longer than 3 sentences if that.
Although one might think that it make it look like some retarded YA novel, that's basically the point.

>>25297307
wrong

>>25297312
You might not like it but it's true.
Eastoids have been doing this at a much larger scale for longer and already have pipelines for adaptions from winnies.
And Eastoids can actually read their own languages at a 12th grade level. Meanwhile our audiences is mostly Americans and ESL who cannot read English past an 8th grade level if even that.

>>25297307
>For winnies no Paragraph should be longer than 3 sentences if that.
Go click through the most followed royal road stories, retard
>but eastern dogshit--
Who cares?

>>25297320
wrong

>>25297307
Oh so it's just an issue with the youth and their attention spans. I have noticed a big shift toward single short lines.
One sentence or two.
A full break into another single sentence or two.
No large overt descriptors. The purple prose has withered.

I feel absolutely fucking drained after writing 2k words even when I still have ideas and clear scenes left in my head. I wonder why.

>>25297681
Maybe writing just isn't for you.

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>>25297681
Bro, my blog's entries have more than 2000 words each.
GIT GUD.

>>25297693
spoil your story kino-man summarize it im never gonna read it

>>25297768
He fulfills the prophecy

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>>25297768
The final paragraph of my story RESUME EVERYTHING, including all the books I still have to read.

HEAVY SPOILER.

>>25297794
Totally wrong.

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>multipov
>it's a another chapter of *that* character

>>25297896
literally me reading the king's (and the siblings') chapters in the wandering inn

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New ad.
What do you think?

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>>25297930
Won't get anyone to look. Try this instead.

>>25297963
It must be 300x250

>>25297968
Shrink it mate.

>>25297930
You're running ads for it still? Why?
You need to put your energy in your next project

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>>25297896
POVSLOP is why I stopped reading westoid shit

>>25297681
I just got done writing 2700 words today, just to meet my self imposed deadline.

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>>25298116
Good job anon. I regularly pull that number.
3k is kind of steep though, don't overdo it. I find 1.5k to be most comfortable if you are not on a deadline.

Finally someone's writing about an MMA fighter isekai'd into a fantasy setting, always thought that'd be a fun concept, I like it so far.

>>25295350
I think the implication is that peak spammer is fff

>>25297930
>>25297963
What does he drive, a rickshaw?

>>25298177
https://mangadex.org/title/843c31ff-d390-4199-bc3b-94b0dfc63632/baki-gaiden-retsu-kaioh-isekai-tensei-shitemo-ikkou-ni-kamawan
Bwo...

>>25298239
That's j*p*nese.

>>25298187
fff isnt based enough to read and promote femc stories

>>25298177
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Xiaodong
Bwo...

Which stories have you read that rewrite a main character's entire personality and turn him or her into a completely different entity?
Since nobody else has read Infinite Realm then I will spoil:
During the fourth volume, all of the strongest characters in the setting gather to assault a 'Dome'--a literal dome, one of many, that has popped up containing lots and lots of monsters and Big Boss figure.
The Big Boss mindrapes everybody and places them within an illusion that lasts about 3 days.
One of the two main characters--Zach, the Nigga Knight--spends roughly 4000 years within this mindrape illusion reality, where he enlightens himself upon Time and whatnot, often giving lectures to stacked piles of rocks and stones.
Eventually, he became the something term Sage of Time and busts out, saving everybody and beating that current Big Bad but he forgets his entire past personality, which includes the other main character and his childhood best friend, who took the cultivator path, and in retaliation to a government mandated assault killed his wife. Also forgot his lizard serial killing sociopath wife

am I allowed to lead my reader down completely fruitless rabbit holes or will they tell me to fucking kill myself

>>25298309
Why not both?

>>25298335
i am a very fragile person and if im told to kill myself because of what i write i might end up doing it

>>25298336
Simply reply "you first" faggot.

>>25298309
I think it is fun to keep people guessing but I am not the average /wng/ denizen.

>>25298290
Reverend Insanity

>>25298465
kill yourself, RIspammer
do NOT reply to me.

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>>25298290
>Infinite Realm
I've seen this rec'd for number autists
is it worth reading? the cover put me off

>>25298584
looks gay

>>25298465
see
>>25295633

>>25298201
'Cause he's just different ok?
>>25298259
Entire arcs of my story have fmcs

>come up with cool premise + characters
>put in tons of mysterious world-building and foreshadow hints
>make one or two epic twists to hook people
>dont actually have a plan for what happens next or how to end it
>just wait for fan theories and pick the best ones to make canon
is this a workable strat? would readers notice or figure it out eventually?

>>25297189
dope

>>25298698
>Entire arcs of my story have fmcs
Nta and no joke, I'm taking you off of my read later page because of this.

>>25298699
how bold of you to assume you'll have fans

are webnovels falling off?

>>25298741
Royalroad is starting to decay a bit, but no. Webnovels as a whole are growing bigger by the day.

>>25298309
>lead my reader down completely fruitless rabbit holes
Readers have grown extremely wary of this and will bitch and whine, preemptively drop you, and write reviews saying you've lost the plot at any point when it isn't fully clear what's going to happen next and why it has to happen.

I don't really like cultivation but Tem Thousand Tragedies is fun, mostly because I loved MoL, and I loved Essence of Cultivation. Any recommendations?

>>25298767
The Years of Apocalypse by UraniumPhoenix
It has at least two trannies though.

>>25298748
I call cap. trad romantasy is the only industry that's growing because women aren't getting married and they're coping with their lives through that genre.

>>25298789
If you are a western woman, sure. Webnovels are the only reading space men haven't been pushed out of and are regularly mined for adaptations.

I finally get why people want to read about overpowered MCs. It's competency porn like John Wick or Jack Reacher.

>>25298799
I like the ones in between, where the MCs know exactly what they need to do to be OP and competent, but still need to get the actual power. Regression, meta knowledge, and the like.

>>25298734
Jacques is still the MC.

>>25298776
Ah, I got this recommendation a while ago and bounced off it, unfortunately. Thanks though.

>>25298767
I've enjoyed "Surprisingly Enough(NOT), Common Sense Is Overpowered in Cliché Cultivation World" so far
the rewrite, specifically
the original was also fine

>>25298177
Azarinth healer?

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>>25298584
This guy has the worst fucking covers

>>25298854
I'll give it a shot, ta.
>>25298812
You might like Records of a Daoist Immortal in the Great Crusade. Weird 40k/cultivation crossover on.. SB? Irregular updates.

>>25298859
Seen much worse.

>>25298874
>You might like Records of a Daoist Immortal in the Great Crusade

I'm >>25298854
Started on this
Good so far
Thanks

>>25298776
Two? I only remember one guy who is referred to as "them", it's such a weird thing to include when it's not even explained at all in the story

cultivation is so gay

>>25298748
It's not growing that fast in the west, always lagged behind and will hit a ceiling faster. Though I'm sure Hollyweird will come around looking for ip to exploit eventually.
Westoid zoomers can barely read and got no attention spans, so you're dependent on millenials for the most part (which is why RR is so fucking Reddit) but they're only getting older.

>>25299009
Why would you want zoomie readers anyway?

Just browsed through 'best rated', 'trending' and 'rising stars' Books on RR and the majority of them are barely concealed AI slop or female protagonist, lgbtq+ shit. I went through multiple pages for each category and could not find a single pearl. I'm done with this website. AI and RR's popularity killed my comfy reading afternoons.

I was about to complain on RR forums, before realizing the only people posting are the same aspiring slop writers. Literally no one is reading on that forum, all they think about is doing a 'shameless plug'. Or spamming vapid shit with their signature redirecting to the novel they're currently writing.

I tried browsing spacebattles instead and the interface is shit. Which is exactly why I will stay on SB. i'm pretty sure everyone hates it but the offensive interface keeps retards away.

>>25299262
>site formatted exactly like a PHP forum, but for reading stories
Yikes...

>>25299262
God willing the retardrush dies down in a year or two and RR settles into a less faggy stable point

>>25299286
I'm afraid the enshittification line only goes up with time on X axis.

>>25298584
There's a lot going on if you want to give it a try. The setup is that Earth gets SYSTEM'd for a year or some short time before everybody is teleported to the Infinite Realm(TM). It combines cultivation, Classes, and Skills, within the same world so you'll like a Level 50 class Faggot fight a Realm 3 cultivating faggot.
It does go deep into the stats and I always skim over update screens, lists of abilities, etc. But if you especially enjoy big batches of data then you'll love Infinite Realm.

>>25299323
you'll see like a*

Do people only read duoluo fanfic nowadays?

>>25299262
RR has been absolutely garbage for along time, don't read anything written by a westerner

>>25299340
now do the second half of your post where you samefag shill some dogshit chinkslop like RI

>>25299345
I am way passed mainstream chinkslop and only read the freshest AI translated stories

>>25299262
>I was about to complain on RR forums, before realizing the only people posting are the same aspiring slop writers
all discussion spaces are like that now
hustle slave griftfags infest any space they can access and anyone can write a sloppy webnovel

>>25299262
Big issue is RR's algorithm rewards that, and it's already solidified itself into a Steam-esque "Not a monopoly but the competition all keep shooting themselves in the dick" position. Anything particularly original requires a lot of author push, and that's typically not for free. If there were a similarly-scaled site that wasn't AI-dense and primarily English readerbase I'd be posting my winnie there instead.