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But how would you deal with the recent incidents? We've been under attack by mobile suits from Gundanium alloy made in outer space. These indestructible suits have the Earth at a virtual crisis.

What do the Specials think? You fought with them.
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>>16768498
Nuke them. It's the only way to be sure.
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>>16768499

Oz would probably pack a Leo full of nukes then send it off since it's not suitable for them unless it's man shaped and physically intimidating; only to have it trip over a pebble on it's way out the hanger door and take the entire city off the map. Which they'd then put down to insurgent actions and form a new sub-section of Oz to deal with.
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>>16768502
Fill cargo planes with Nuke Leos and drop them on the Gundams.
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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE MOBILE SUITS?
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>>16768512
We're discussing the Gundam problem. Have you not been listening?
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>>16768498
Hey guys check out my new MS design.
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>>16768531
Where's the beamsaber? What are those red things on the left shoulder? Is it me or tis that torso a little small, it doesn't look like the cockpit will have much room.
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>>16768499
>>16768502
>>16768507
Very interesting. That would mean the disarmament of my military would have to be put on the back burner.
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>>16768714
What is going on with that map behind you? South America is far too the right.
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>>16768729
Some smart aleck spilled water on the map and we keep forgetting to replace it.
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>>16768733
...But it's an LCD.
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>>16768736
Shh don't tell him that, we lied because the LCD screens we get always suck.
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>>16768741
Who are we buying them from? This is ridiculous if all of them suck this much!
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>>16768744
China of course, even in the UESA era their quality control is sub-par but hey it's cheap.
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Leave those gundams to me!
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>>16768498
Give the Gundams 24 hours to surrender, if not you'll destroy the colonies. Since the UESA is able to block communication between the colonies, its likely that they can also stop that threat from reaching people in the colonies to avoid panic and riots.
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>>16768758
Gundanium can only really be destroyed by heat, shooting it with a bunch of bullets wouldn't do anything. Which is why the Leo was so ineffective.
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>>16768954
Then strap a beam cannon on it ala Gelgoog cannon.
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>>16768498
Sir, why not have spies learn who the pilots are and kill them via sniper? Please don't take the advice of those fools Zechs and Treize.
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>>16769052
Because we've already tried that Commander. Why waste more vital Human Resources. Is any one else on board with my Nuke Leos plan?
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>>16769052
>>16769093
Better idea, we spy on them; find where they resupply and send the nuke leos there!
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>>16768963
Leo tommy guns are pretty baller
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>>16769127
Tommy guns in general are pretty baller.
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>>16769127
Nyaa, I'mma takin over dis here colony, see?
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>>16770252
What's that noi- IT'S A GUNDAM!!!!!
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>>16768954
>>16768963
Leos had beam weapons too, they were just really weak other than the commander version shoulder guns (Which could fire one strong shot followed by one very, very weak one if they didn't take time charging up,)

That one there below the stock-footage-intro-only bazooka is a beam rifle, and they can also use beam dobers.
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>>16768729
>South America is far too the right.
Just like in reality, am I right fellas? *rimshot*
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>>16768954
Not exactly. Remember, Wing self-detonated, but most of its armored shell just proceeded to keel over. All manner of suits hit the Gundams with beam weapons, but they weren't sufficiently powerful enough. And at the same time, they routinely took enough damage from ballistic impacts to require repair.

When Hero wanted to destroy both Gundams how did he do it? Naval missiles. He didn't succeed, but he still messed them up and caused Duo, having nothing more to go on than witnessing the missiles knocking both suits back underwater, to remark "he knows Gundanium's impact tolerance".
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>>16768498
Suicide a close-combat Leo with a warhead. They'll expect a normal explosion.
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>>16774074
Have Leos commit Seppuku by beam saber to confuse and distract them for a flanking attack!
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>>16773773
>Just like in reality
*cough* Venezuela *cough* Brazil *cough*
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>>16773802
Maybe heat is more important in GOL?
Does Tallgeese have a heatlance specifically because of that?

It also seems that once the Gundams show up MSs start to use more beam weapons over ballistic. But it's been a long to to watch Wing or read the manga.
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>>16773802
>>16774445
The first MS weapon to deal more severe damage to a Gundam was the Taurus beam cannon. Otherwise there are a few instances where pilots exclaim or it is shown that they've suffered minor damage from a direct hit, like the bazooka that Zechs hit the Wing Gundam with, or the Virgo beam cannon that didn't break the exterior armor but managed to put the Wing Gundam's knee joint out of action, crippling it.
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>>16769106
DAT FILENAME
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Make them fight 100 of these
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>>16768498
INCREASE
THE
FORCES
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>>16774422
*sigh*
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>>16774800
*ughh*
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>>16774814
*sigh*
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Why don't we just burry a nuke in a remote base, send all our retard soldiers with the oldest batch of Leo's, and then quitly let it leak that we are developing anti-gundam mobile suits in this location? Then when the gundams show up we just remotly detonate the nuke and then let the media scream how the gundams detonated a nuke on earth's soil?
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>>16775252
That'd be too obvious. The Gundams would see through the plot easily.
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>>16774800
>>16774814
>>16774818
>>>/livejournal/
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>>16775256
*sigh*
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>>16775255
That bunch of retarded teens? Hah! They will not be able to resist this bait. Plus we can always put out some extra rumors about us having recaptured the old scientists that made the Tallgeeze. That will be sure to lure them.
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>>16768758
>*instantly explodes*
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Time to give it up.
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>>16778881
https://youtu.be/IeqtAB1WgEw
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>>16768498
Why was his dub voice?
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>>16781241
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!
HIS DUB VOICE WAS PERFECTLY FIIINE
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>>16781241
>>16781243
It's so weird to me that it came out this way. As you can see in the OP, the lines he has are pretty normal and wouldn't even stand out as odd if they were read normally, but not only did this guy shout basically every single line, he did it while sounding like Animal from the Muppets.

Like, you have to assume the people involved in this dub were humans. Why did none of them at any point think "You know, this voice doesn't really match this dialogue, maybe we should try a different one." The most forgiving explanation I can come up with is that it was some sort of in-joke that they got away with sticking in the dub because he's a pretty minor character.
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>>16768954
The entire suit isn't made of that special material. I always imagined the armor was special, but the frame it was mounted to could only take so much. #FanTheories
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>>16781940
Well, anything is better than snobbishly looking down on the writers and assuming they didn't think things through.
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>>16781295

The dub doesn't actually list a VA for General Septum if I recall from a thread a few years back, so someone probably did it as a joke and then made sure their name wasn't in the credits just in case.
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>>16773802
>"he knows Gundanium's impact tolerance"
That was a dub line. Heero wasn't trying to destroy the suit with the missiles. He remotely activated the self detonation device and was using the missiles to set it off. Duo disabled it earlier though so the suit didn't go off.
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Gentlemen, we're wasting valuable combat resources just chatting here.
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>>16783367
Valuable combat resources? Are you talking about our soldiers? Or are you talking about mobile suits?
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>>16783376
AREYOUMSKINGFUNOFMEANON!?
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>>16783384
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>>16774581
YOU'RE SAYING, REDUCE THE FORCES ?
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Hey guys I stol- I mean borrowed this design from some guys in Japan. What do you think?
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>>16774475
I seem to recall a few times where Leo's with doberguns also managed to mess up the Gundams and at least stop them advancing. So high calibur weapons probably do have some effect.
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>>16782958
writers are mostly retards though
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>>16784293
The Leo doberguns fall into the range of "pilot gets knocked around and the Gundam seems to have taken some damage but it's not really visible and really minor"
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>>16784325
Clearly a Leo cannon armed with two dober guns on the shoulders is the right course of action.
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>>16784209
NINETY TWO MILLION!?
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>>16784364
Wing is ripe for many custom MS. Why were they scared of doing so?
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>>16768752

OZ's QC was a good bit better than the Alliance's. Then again, they were the ones in charge of construction....and the coup.
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>>16785093
I don't know, man. Especially since the Leo is easily the second best grunt suit in the entire franchise.
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>>16786248
The best being?
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>>16787214
Zaku II
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>>16786248
Reminder
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>>16785093

I think it's less fear, and more a complete lack of interest on the part of the creators. Suzumura was interested in telling a melodramatic story, not in telling a mech story. Whatever pressure Sunrise put on him or his team for designs they were turning out as new units rather than variants, which Sunrise probably didn't care about the distinction; if anything they'd probably favor it, since variants may have been viewed as less salable than new units.
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>>16788126
Wing MSV when.
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>>16787445
This guy designed the Leo.
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>>16784325
>>16784364
The Leo Commander Shoulder guns just need better recharge rates to be really scary. First shot blew massive holes in another Leo but an immediate followup shot only took the outer armor off an Aires.
That custom model is pretty fucking awesome though.

>>16785093
At least the Magenacs got lots of custom variants, from gun-arms to THREE different shoulder cannon variants in this one shot and I think another variant with a single shoulder gun in a different shot.

I also always thought the Sandrock should have had Guncannon style shoulder guns like the similarly named UC Mudrock Gundam.

Wonder if I could make that in one of those Virtual-Gunpla games.
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>>16784364
Isn't that just really similar to a Tragos in walk mode?
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>>16789296
And here's the Magenac with a gun arm.

I will admit to occasionally writing shameless shitty fanfic outlines for a setting that bashes AC and OYW UC suits into one setting that's MOSTLY UC based but slightly less brutal
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>>16789311
We should definitely change the spelling to Magenac. Maganac makes me feel this weird sense of disgust. I can't put my finger on it.
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>>16789327
I mean it's pronounced Maguanac.
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>>16786248
>Leo is easily the second best grunt suit
>made of explodium
Windham, M1 Astray, Flag, Tieren, Genoace, Shiden, etc, etc
you're right about Zaku II though
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Oh my goodness.
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>>16784319
Really, then how come they have a job and you don't. Inb4 you blame the Jews
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>thinking leos are actually great

What's so good about them? I mean they are uglier than Zeon's suits and even less effective.

>Zaku vs Leo

I'm sure the Zaku wins easily (omitting the pilot).
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>>16792222
Considering the Leo can use beam weapons I'd say it's closer to the Act Zaku or Hizack.
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>>16792222
Leo has beam weapons, weighs dozens of tons less and has better equipment.
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>>16792222
Leos have a cooler name so they win.
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>>16792222
>>16792238
Yeah I think AC grunts have dimensions in between Late UC and Early UC MS.
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>>16775255
Yeah, just like they saw through Treize using them to assassinate the pacifists in the Earth Sphere Alliance military.
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>>16793728
What the fuck was Treize's problem?
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>>16794180
Muh honor
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>>16794364
I thought that was Wufei's problem.
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>>16794368
Why do you think Wufei was gay for him?
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>>16794374
Being gay is not honorable.
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>>16795615
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>>16768498
Leaflet campaign
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Aries is the sexiest Wing grunt
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>>16775704
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>>16797094
Damn straight it is
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>>16800808
Or is it?
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>>16801308
>>16800808
>>16797094
No, it's actually the Tragos. Its sex appeal comes from the fact that its shoulder cannons can even tell Gundams to fuck off.
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>>16801325
Poor Tragos always gets forgotten.
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>>16801328
I guess it's too bulky for some, though that's precisely why I like it.
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>>16801325
>>16801341
T H I C C
H
I
C
C
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>>16801328
But he's just happy to be there, having a nice time whistling.

>>16801325
>>16801341
>>16801355
Shoulder cannons are great, and having multiple mobility modes with their hoversleds is even better.
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>>16768544
The red things are a deployable beam shield, like the Mercurius had only this one can fight back
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>>16785928
the fuck you need goggles for when you're in a mobile suit?
inb4 J-Decker screencap
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>>16802175
Uh...
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>>16802175

They could work like the VF-headset in the Turn-A and link with the on-board computer to display extra details and help with aiming or something. There's not really any reason the regular monitors couldn't handle that, even in the Turn A, but it's an element regardless. Realistically they're just included as a nod to WWI and WWII era pilots in open canopies who wore them to protect against wind and there was certainly no effort given in show to justify them or show them doing something like the above idea, but you could probably come up with something if you wanted to.
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WHAT?!
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WHAT?!
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>>16803362
>>16807903
CHICKEN BUTT!!
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What do you guys think of THIS?
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>>16818293
The coloring made me mistake it for an anime girl from the thumbnail, perhaps Saber Lily.
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>>16818293

RG Leo when???
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>>16768498
Alternate plan: what if we just figure out what it is the colonies are mad at us for doing, then agree to stop doing it? The Gundams either withdraw, or they continue fighting, allowing us to turn public sentiment against them even in the colonies.

When their support dries up, they'll cease to be an effective fighting force.
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>>16818293
Smallgeese
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>>16820833
I like it.
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>>16768498
Did anyone here that?
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>>16820833
>Smolgeese
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>>16823388
Damn it, I considered posting this.
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Super advance Japan probably have something that could stop them.
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>>16823443
Forget the mecha, where did they find four people large enough to be seen from space?
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>>16824895
Uh, TTGL?
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>>16768498
Who was his fucking VA? His voice was ridiculous.
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>>16826006
As far as I can tell he wasn't credited, probably because the guy knew if they ever found out who he is he'd never get work again.

I'm curious to hear how comparatively normal Septum's voice must sound in Japanese, but not curious enough to download an episode.
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>>16826028
GundamInfo has subtiled Wing on Youtube right now.
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>>16826118
Thanks, I completely forgot that channel existed. I'll give it a look.
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Put your KITSUNE up!!
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>>16824895
The Moon landing was FAKE!
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Waffles, innit?
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>>16797094
>Simultaneously skipping and pursuing leg day.
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>>16833130
The breasts are WAY bigger, though.
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>>16833879
WAY bigger.
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Hit too close to home, did it?
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>>16788132
What is G-Unit, what is Tiel's Impulse, what is Frozen Teardrop
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>>16851530
I can't believe they did a Gundam thing called G-Unit hahahahahahahahaha.
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>>16851575
I'd better be patient then.
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>>16856652
Me too.
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>>16768498
What's the delay on Naruto and Bleach?
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>>16768498

> What do the Specials think?
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>>16862968
I dunno how this guy survived every single Gundam and never died.
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Can anyone tell if this thread report is real or figment of schizophrenia? All this gundam talk is not healthy.
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>>16864648
What?
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>>16864690
Kuma.
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But for my money, this is the best Gundam series.
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>>16872582
YOU'RE SAYING
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>UC baddies
>german military aesthetic
>MS are absolutely terrifying

>AC baddies
>french military aesthetic
>MS blow up constantly

Did everyone else notice this?
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>>16876757
Brits antagonists soon?
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>>16876761
If a guy named McGillis isn't British I don't know what is.
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If they're indestructible, why don't we emp them. The inner frame and circuitry can't be indestructible.
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>>16876872
Analogue sir.

>>16876846
Military aesthetic wise though. Also that's more Scottish & we all know how the Scottish feel...
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>>16876757
Are you implying Zakus don't blow up constantly?
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>>16768729
Continental drift my dude
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>>16876886
Last I checked Scotland was a part of Britain?
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>>16797094
Thicc in all the right places (tits, thighs, crotch, pauldrons)
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>>16877597
What exactly is beneficial about a thick crotch?
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Huh?
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There are many things I would like to know.
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>>16877782
Protective of leg joints I guess.
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>>16881657
So true.
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>>16881657
Does thicc joint mean good chest protection?
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>>16886441
Ain't that the truth?
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>>16886955
What?
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>>16888257
What?
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>>16886441
What?
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>>16787279
It sucks being a fan of the Zaku I, I just like the way it looks better, and made it my main suit in the ps2 zeon game(cant remember the name, it was allot like rise from the ashes on Dreamcast)
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>>16889817
Nothing to be ashamed of, there's fans of Gouf & Gyan here after all.
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>>16768498
By exhausting them. A siege battle plan. Just hope they don't obliterate all the opposing units.
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>>16889835
>Leos & Aries
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>>16889827
Gyanko posts here?
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Bowsette
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>>16889827
Gyan Rosling.
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No. Not even technically.
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That up smash.
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>shooting a man after throwing him out of a plane
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>>16908027
Mercy kill.
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>>16908094
At least he can talk.
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>>16908027
He didn't fly so good.
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>>16908027
ULTRA KILL
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>>16889817
Zeonic front ?

Pretty good game
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>>16889817
Man it's crazy to think that they actually used to localize Gundam games even on a dead system like Dreamcast.

I wonder why the fuck they stopped considering Gundam is much more popular now than it is then.
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Impressive.
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>>16768498
Very interesting...

subtitle comparisons:
http://aboutgundamwing.com/Series/series07.htm
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>>16918383
>An actual gundam wing web
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>>16921652
Yeah.
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>>16908027
No one seems to ever admits how impressive of a shot that is
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>>16926107
What was the point though? Like in what possible circumstance would he survive being thrown out of a plane?

Also if Lady Une is this good a shot how come she didn't win the war singlehandedly?
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>>16926126
People have survived skydiving with parachutes that didn't open.
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>>16926152
Oh.
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I am pretty sure that River only kills people with swords.
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>>16768729
Is just a Japanese map
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Hm.
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Huh.





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