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They won
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>>22640910
I told you fuckers that women were the anthesis of mecha and including them would be the eventual long term downfall of the genre and now we have Gundam, as presented by Blackrock. Good work, you fucking women obsessed idiots, you ruined yet another male dominated hobby with your inability to think with anything besides your dicks.
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>>22641091
mecha is a girl's genre though
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>>22641091
>Ewww, we can't let girls in! They have cooties!!
Grow up
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>>22641091
Wufei, is that you?
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>>22640910
If nothing else, they won the award for being the most tantrum-inducing show of the year. Which is the most important prize.
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>>22641091
> you ruined yet another male dominated hobby with your inability to think with anything besides your dicks.
But G-Bitch doesn't even appeal to that crowd. The girls are "cute", at best. The intent behind the female designs was very clear (i.e. let's not offend women and other basedfags).
And I don't care if some random animator doujinshi book had Secelia with a gigantic ass or Suletta with huge tits: that wasn't in the show, so it is invalid by default.
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Imagine being this annoying over some dolls kissing. And I thought that fujoshits were much more annoying and Bravern exist and it's both a good show and good homo.
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>>22641267
Male gay will always be better than female gay by default.
>Inb4 "faggot!"
Don't care. It's always true. If real anime fans cared about girls, ecchi, yuri and assorted tripe would keep selling by the millions. And yet, almost every single work out there appeals to fujos and normalfags. Curious, isn't it?
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>>22641267
Fujos are actually fun to talk about anime with because they usually care about more than shipping (yuri fans ONLY care about shipping and "cuteness"), and they aren't as sanctimonious about the shipping as yuri fans. Also fujo stuff can be pretty good at times, while yuri crap is utterly soulless.
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>>22641271
The only difference is that Bravern was actually good show with things worth discussing in it, nothing to do with the demographics attached to them because fujos can be very fucking annoying as well.
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>>22641285
You are right on that, it's good because it wasn't aimed to any specific demographic but what Obari wanted to do, which feels more genuine and heartfelt work.
But there is a huge difference between the kind of people who got attached to last Gundam au (and claimed was made for THEM) and what happened with Bravern.
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>>22641285
Only nu-fujos are annoying, the old true fujos actually had some pretty good ideas that didnt always require the happiest ending or for everyone to love the characters. Just look at BL vs GL, BL as a whole has more ideas and in general more versatility in the characters even if you dont care about them kissing or not.
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>>22641302
>there is a huge difference between the kind of people who got attached to last Gundam au (and claimed was made for THEM) and what happened with Bravern
Because the shows themselves were vastly different, Bravern had absolutely no marketing whatsoever in the west, to the point where so called "mecha fans" thought the promos looked ugly and it was just going to be "another shitty military CG cashgrab" despite the people attached to it. Whereas gbitch got tons of coverage and everyone was talking about "gundam's first female mc" for whatever reason. Sunrise knew damn well what it was doing and they went for a bland waifu bait show to appeal to the modern audiences that get attached to characters and designs rather than shows or plot.
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How would Suletta and Miorine do in the One Year War? Assume they use the UC's mobile suits.
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>>22640910
If that was true you wouldn't be spamming the same shit threads every week on this board.
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>>22640910
Left open to interpretation.
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>>22641355
Nah, the director confirmed it. They're happily married together.
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>>22641091
Yeah I miss the 1950s when there were no woman in /m/ than the fucking 70s came with fucking cocaine and brown people and disco and women in Yamato! Even in Grendizer!!!!
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>>22641091
What a mark.
>>22641285
Bravern has demographics, all shows do, what it has over Witch is good writing, I cared about Isami, Smith and Lulu.
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>>22641267
>>22641271
>>22641285
>>22641302
>>22641520
Another thing is that Bravern isn't solely fujo pandering: it also has plenty of babes, like Hibiki with her tits bigger than her head, or the cute USAF operators, or the mechanic. The point of this is that it has something for everyone, while focusing on a specific target audience which it actually panders to loyally - unlike G-Bitch, where the show ends one way, then the staff backtracks, and then they backtrack again.
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>>22641520
G-witch has good writing.
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>>22641553
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>>22641545
>then the staff backtracks
They did not.
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>>22641545
>the show ends one way, then the staff backtracks, and then they backtrack again
Wow, just like Bravern.
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>>22641545
But G-Witch has Guel, Shaddiq, Elan, Secelia and Shaddiq's harem.
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>>22641545
G-Witch has plenty of characters but I'm given no reason to care about any of them except for Guel, I like the idea of Witch, the mechs and the character designs but there is little to no character progression and if there is it just happens, honestly it reminds me a lot of SEED in some ways.
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>>22641091
>Akumetsu T
>BIKINI SCHIZO
Which one?
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>>22641503
Yeah, I love how it makes Bandai look more stupid.
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>>22641553
Yeah, not sure about that. It really, really falls flat into second cour.
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>>22641574
I swear to god, if it wasn't because Suletta is a girl, a lot of people would her character a simp for Miorine being despective of her. They could have gone in a more interesting and daring path with Suletta's character, but unfortunaly didn't.
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>>22643291
Haven't you heard Commander Suletta?
>tfw Suletta would probably be acting like Heero/Mika
We were robbed.
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>>22641333
They get shot down
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>>22643291
I thought fans also simped for Miorine. At least before Secelia came along.
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>>22643536
>Cold Commander Suletta is simp for Mistress Miorine
Pretty hot
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>>22643283
It was great in the first cour, then it seems some suit at Sunrise realized they greenlit a lesbian romance show and did everything they could to sabotage it in the second half.
Still ended in a blatant gay marriage despite their pathetic twatter cope.
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>>22643751
Or, the show was always a 6/10 show and it went to a 4/10 in the second half because the writers are just bad at their jobs?
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>>22643753
You sound like the malding guelfag.
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>>22643751
Why you keep coping with this shit excuse, the script was completed a year before the broadcast.
Only yurifags cared about Scamco marriage fiasco while everyone else moved on, maybe you should as well and find a new hobby.
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>>22643756
I've never watched this show except the Prologue. It made me laugh when they started singing Happy Birthday and I never watched the actual show. People talking about the good writing in it surprise me. I wonder what other shows they think are also good? Like what are your standards here?
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>>22643763
>still coping and seething and projecting and telling lies
It never changes with you.
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>>22643767
Maybe you think about someone else you had beef with, but the prologue was the last script they wrote and was released months before Gwitch.
One thing not everyone talks about is Okouchi rewriting the ending because yoasobi shit song since to him was more relevant the mary sue white chick than the actual main character.
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>>22643770
Fucking ESLs.
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>>22643782
It's so bad. I don't know who convinced all these people that their English was good enough to post here.
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>>22641766
Miomio negotiating skills are unmatched.
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>>22641302
the saddest thing is them gaslighting into thinking the characters are nuanced, especially the main duo, when most of the things you see comes from headcanons and fanworks. Truly sad to see.
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>>22643770
>大河内: 本来はスレッタのことを歌っている曲ですけど、例えば第7話を見たあとはミオリネのことを歌っているように聞こえる。そして、いつかは見ている人の応援歌になるんです、きっと
That man is such a shit writer and a waifufag.
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I enjoyed watching it while it was airing but in retrospect it wasn't very good
Even IBO had more nuance (except for the last 10 episodes I guess)
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I actually like the season 1, season 2 just really lacks of story.
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>>22643751
Their number 1 priority is sulemio's romance so it makes sense that they focused on them first, what I hate about season 2 is that they didn't give much focus on Chuchu and Nika and just wasted it on the Jeturk brothers.
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>>22640910
>no onscreen kiss.
Unless their movie opens with an active lesbian fingering session. Don't count on it.
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>>22644081
>their movie
Lol.
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>>22644085
You know its happening.
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>>22644089
I could see it happening but going to Netflix or something.
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>>22640910
Just jacked to Suletta getting pounded by a guy so no
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>>22640910
Miorine need to fuck off so I can have Suletta to myself. The sp*cian menace needs to end once and for all.
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>>22644116
Link? Don’t let it be Guel though.
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>>22644117
Suletta will kill you if she hears you're shitting her waifu and she'll calls you a faggot.
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>>22644121
>Guel
Gay
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>>22644159
I love Suletta but I’m still going to defend myself.
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>>22644173
>Shit want to trashtalk her waifu
You pussy
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>>22644182
Still*
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>>22643283
Both cours have good writing.
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>>22645252
Gotta love how Miorine hardened Suletta.
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>>22645280
Nothing you typed was a sentence. All I read was schizophrenic word vomit. I am 35, I have read Marx before, and I still don't know what "woke" actually means.
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>>22645286
Which side would Tomino stand on. Woke or based?
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>>22645286
It was black slang about being socially aware but nowadays it's just a conservative buzzword to describe literally everything to the left of them. Nothing much to it
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>>22645280
Exceedingly based pic wasted on a shit post.
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>>22641266
Oh shit, we got animator doujins? Link?
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>>22645280
Hey what's your opinion on bikinis?
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>>22643536
>>22643608
More girls would be into Sulemio then. Who know, maybe its fandom wouldn't be overwhelming male and tranny
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>>22641269
>normalfags
You realize women are like 50% of that demographic, right?
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>>22645280
>seed freedom was anti-woke agenda
>Foundation as wokism
Nice try Orphee. Lacus is her own woman and nothing you could do could make her your kitchen slave.
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If it doesn't end with them trying to kill each other and then embracing while naked in space then it's not real yuri.
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>>22647745
Even for stuff like Yuru Yuri?
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>>22647754
Yuru Yuri is a generic CGDCTs with some wacky "lesbian" jokes, which it's pretty standard for CGDCTs
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>>22645280
Learn proper english, bikini schizo. What a bunch of dribble.
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>>22647544
Is lacus depicted as strong womyn in movie too, like Joan of arc in space?
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>>22647544
*shinn. Orphee is literally Kishida.
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>>22647544
I thought lacus as damsel in distress in seed and destiny. Was she a strong womyn too, spite she isn't a combatant?
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>>22652800
Because she's not useless and can actually speak to her people because she's smart?
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>>22640910
Yeah they won ESG points
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>>22655073
While Seed freedom is to anti woke anime, by Destiny plan as ESG, and Foundation as Blackrock. Considering Fukuda being Netouyo. But was Seed freedom's zaft girls(Lacus,Luna,Meiryn) being ugly due to ESG?
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>>22641266
>cute at best
did you see miorine's chest?
flatter than ohio
pure sex
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>>22641269
This is actually completely true
yaoi pairings have to have at least 1 single iota of effort putting into their writing to gain some traction. Sure most of the time that writing is going to be terrible and will make both of them seem like sociopaths but a single step will at least be taken.
Yuri pairings are empty and devoid of all effort. pretty much all you need is 2 vaguely female looking character designs appearing in frame at the same time and that probably put it in the upper 50 percentile of yuri shipping. Yurifags have negative standards.
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>>22641333
Amuro detects the trapped souls of Aerial and destroys it, probably also killing prospera by accident. Sulletta cries and amuro doesn't even notice her as white base flies off.
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>>22641553
gwitch has writing so bad it makes destiny look like genius
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>>22659792
Yeah. Seed freedom is anti woke. For fukuda hates wokism for being netouyo.
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>>22659792
G-Witch's writing is better than anything in the cosmic era.
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>>22660432
Not with this woke shit. Seed is anti-woke, and destiny plan symbolizes wokism. Seed has cute zaft girls while G-woke's girls are ugly.
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>>22660436
You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means.
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>>22660432
So good and solid that the ending was rewritten at some point because the main scriptwriter was "impressed" by yoasobi lyrics of the OP.
The biggest critique is how the main character had no proper character development and focus on her needs.
The ending was criticized, it felt dated in how they handled parent-child relationships and war, plus making the children in the show pay for adults' crimes without no real payback for anyone who isn't the MCs.
The only characters who get a decent ending are leads, and it's not even that good in the way they wrapped up things, making her crippled and becoming the caretaker of her abusive mother and turning her sister into a suitcase (and let's not bring up the fact that the other one goes around preaching about peace when she's a nepo-baby who is using as "guards" terrorists who were freed for no good reason after being behind all the killing we saw in the show).
The prologue, which was the last thing written, was the best thing and in fact nothing that happened there has any meaning in the whole story.
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>>22660523
>So good and solid that the ending was rewritten at some point because the main scriptwriter was "impressed" by yoasobi lyrics of the OP.
And it was all the better for it.
>The biggest critique is how the main character had no proper character development and focus on her needs.
Which is false because she did have proper character development and focus on her needs and wants.
>The ending was criticized, it felt dated in how they handled parent-child relationships
It's not dated at all. It's fairly modern and believable.
>and war,
There was no war.
>plus making the children in the show pay for adults' crimes without no real payback for anyone who isn't the MCs.
Shaddiq, Deiling, and the other adults are still paying for their crimes.
>The only characters who get a decent ending are leads, and it's not even that good in the way they wrapped up things,
It is, they resolved the remaining plot threads in a satisfying way.
>making her crippled and becoming the caretaker of her abusive mother
A mother that has seen the error of her ways(and who was still the best parent in the show by process of elimination) and is actually spending time with her. Also she isn't the caretaker, they have others helping them.
>and turning her sister into a suitcase
A sister who is now free to explore the world and interact with others, something she could not do previously. And GUND medical tech leaves the door open for her to get her own body later.
>(and let's not bring up the fact that the other one goes around preaching about peace when she's a nepo-baby
So you just ignored her character.
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>>22641306
desu old yaoi was kinda repetitive in the sense that it ALWAYS had to have a sad ending. i remember some bl comic about cavemen that ended woth a pretty ok ending and then the author made a one page long comic where the only thing that happened was that some tiger killed one of the lovers
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>>22660581
>dramatic stories have dramatic endings
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>>22660523
>the ending was rewritten at some point because the main scriptwriter was "impressed" by yoasobi lyrics of the OP.
This explains a lot in the finale
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>>22660440
Was seed fujo-esque as well?
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I haven't been in /m/ for a while, is the g bitch guy still at it? Lol
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>>22660523
>making the children in the show pay for adults' crimes without no real payback for anyone
It's fucking Gundam. It's been like that since day 1. Children suffering from the mistakes of adults is like the main theme of Tomino's trilogy.
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I just watched the first episode of this and I'm wondering, is it just non stop pandering to the lgbt community or is it just good ol yuri in space? I wish I could just enjoy it for what it s because it seems cool, but I hate nigger/fag pandering.
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>>22661825
hell no, the show isn't even about Gundam but students taking turns to groom, rape and marry this stupid retarded girl
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>>22661825
>is it just good ol yuri in space?
This.
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>>22661825
Literally Utena in space but they're loyal to eachother and lesbians. Wifeguy Suletta is based, though.
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